Joe Rogan Experience #1824 — Lex Fridman Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. You've been nose to the grindstone. and you're going to have to live with this man and also even about the locations in which he owns homes. But the thing is, it's like real estate people, there's a lot of dirty business in real estate when a famous person buys a house. They sell the data. Someone does it, whether it's someone who works in the

2:08 lying about living in this tiny house it's not true right you and I know it's You, Tim Dillon, and Elon Musk in the house. And then comparing to the Saudi prince, I think like jet skis or something like that, next to each other, and he's just talking shit. I've been talking to a lot of people about it. forces, nuclear powers are just watching this conflict, watching this humanitarian crisis,

5:46 What is it? 1919, maybe? So now we're sitting here in 2022. The biggest one since, in Europe at least, since World War II. throughout its history has blood in its hands. NATO is pressuring through its expansion, And those are wars either started or catalyzed or propped up by the United States. you have just the western perspective is like no yeah america has blood on its hands but you can't do this moral um there's no moral equivalence here there is good guys and bad guys in the world

9:45 challenged for me personally i know there's a lot of suffering in the world i know there's a lot of world where you can feel it intimately because you know the people. It's like, how do you stop that? And is the answer make schools these armored compounds versus the way we look at our own actions when you start bringing up Yemen Yemen is one that uh

12:16 swept under the rug and we don't think about it. And we don't even understand why we're doing it. If you comb the television news sources, cable, left and right, you're not going to find discussions of Yemen on a daily basis. fundamental difference between what Vladimir Putin Russia is under influence of propaganda. So it's hard to know what is true or not. But the reality

15:05 Soviet Union what do you do with that that's real objective well as far as we and I thought that was a known fact, and then later I looked, and it was, you know, But, you know, he's 69 years old. sarcoidosis and they gave him prednisone and his like his face got big yeah it's and more concerned about what's going on with his mind. Well, that was always the case that has

18:34 every level geopolitical social militarily um unless there's there's very few scenarios in which this was calculated all along. There's a lot of corruption. makes me go god damn if I can't trust a fucking New York Times to get it right, was catalyzed, was made possible. which is very difficult to do so that that um i mean that's a historic event for Ukraine in its sovereign history.

22:07 A lot of it in the recent years has been centered around the war with Russia starting with 2014. You want to be pro-democracy or you want to be pro-whatever-the-heck Russia is. they're getting some signals from Putin or meeting with him, strongman leader I would say a strong vision and that sometimes can coincide And the way he's been doing that, sort of unopposed in a ruthless manner, is very impressive.

24:39 Here's a leader that stepped up and held his ground, and that's rare in this world, You know, that's, you know, but there's also a difference between and this again the oliver stone perspective is uh and torture millions of people. Hundreds of thousands of civilians die when you're spreading freedom all over the world. everywhere Well, there's so much secret stuff if you're standing apart from

28:16 We're both going to die. That's mutual short destruction. What he's saying is no, you can that comment on stuff I've okay with, so just even with the limited access I've had, The way you love cars, they love incredible weapons. I've been watching these videos one i've been thinking about this commander david fravor thing this tic-tac thing off of the coast

30:44 Like, wouldn't you and it has active other than none? mean whatever that is the state what is the state was the government and what is Me and her are very close. This is different. Showing a drone that could be launched and controlled from a submarine that's underwater. I mean, what? it was hovering and it goes it just took off and it was propeller-driven, some sort of electrical propeller-driven thing.

33:40 I try to pretend that you're not actually working on artificial intelligence okay this thing that i was looking at it was so fast it was hovering and it just went But there could be like, I mean, I don't understand why they couldn't be just manipulation of the human eye, sort of hologram type of stuff. That's different. Yeah, but watch this again. I've made this stuff on multiple videos.

36:03 It looks really fast. hour it's going to look preposterously fast it's going to look like it's from another world what is it with the Element 115? He didn't say anything about his capabilities. The way he described it, he said, sea level in less than a second. We're going to edit this out. Not only that, when they took him to Los Alamos, He's like, yeah, that's it.

39:31 and he talked about it, like, how incredible it was. But all of this started since we started using nukes. And if we are being visited, Like if I was monitoring from another world, I would say, That capability in a brutal military dictatorship, and they decided to use it to control the entire world think that their capability I think I think the universe is just full of

42:32 This is the best. this is, you know, I joke around about this, but I am American. I'm now, I believe in the ideals some sort of innate intelligence some sort of ability to communication some sort of a if you have a deep understanding of what is life, of what is a life form, like dumb down their stuff because it seems so bizarre and no one wants to believe it

45:34 Your car stops. And if you don't do that, fuck happened was that real and then you call me and you hate you i not gonna believe shit. I believe you. All right. I'm fucking crazy. What about the seeding of ideas? Yeah. It feels like something to be this. if you didn't understand the human species at all, that fuels constant innovation. I have a phone, an iPhone, one of my other phones, that's three years old maybe.

49:04 What are we doing? second gotta get it gotta get it you know and we're constantly involved in this pursuit of you form a startup, and your ideas all gel together. More, better, crazier stuff. innovation that like wins yeah it's like almost yeah it is almost like at least earth wants us throughout and what the fucking thing looks like because there's like there's moons that are

52:20 That counts as one organism? Oh boy. They can exist in insane temperatures advanced as us because they started out at the same similar time but there's a much there's like and your neighbors were a bunch of 18-year-old kids with guns in the world i would i would have to watch how i present that case but what if they knew you I believe it's called thermite.

55:14 Yeah. Just for science. and on impact it explodes, Yeah. A lot of times people don't understand the physical force that that stuff generates that you think this refrigerator. It's not that far you can run it in four minutes if you're fast This sounds like a perfect metaphor for nuclear weapons What it looks like. Don't you think we know? I think that's wine, buddy.

58:45 I only drink anything above 30 years old, but that's fine. My favorite is Buffalo Trace for a couple reasons. For the Johnny Depp trial None Listen It's good I'm one of the greatest comedians ever. Listen. I have a very specific kind of mind where my ego should not be encouraged, but in fact do that. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking for the opposite. Just a little bit of anxiety

1:00:51 I want people to know I love them. And I just, you know, when you're like a- I cried. I love Bobby Lee. I saw to you before, I'm a huge fan of Bobby Lee. He should be on this podcast. I feel like he is so. And I called him and I said, listen, I don't know what kind of – I'm just hearing about this nonsense now. And I've said that to him many, many times.

1:02:55 Like, I can think of, like, Duncan Trussell. It would be an amazing podcast to have with him to be on your show. Because the podcast thing is when you listen to a person, What happened there? because Bobby says he wants to get we started drinking and we'll fly back tonight. Let me just lay this out. But the whole thing is wild. Yeah, but look at the end of the night.

1:05:59 But it's also 3 in the morning. Lex a little drunk Because they were trying to make a decision. i missed all that she's on top of shit oh she's got she's got a lot of energy and like uh yeah No, she's so nice. sweet person. I love her to death. nutrition but you don't realize it because you think eventually i'm sure i'll get some food I don't know why you thought it was.

1:09:00 he ever lost in a night is a million so he he's really wealthy. So for him to feel it, to get that charge, he's got to be betting big money. Because they told him he can't gamble there. Dana White is not a mathematical genius. Like I said, I gambled with my wife when you were hammered doing push-ups with She's great, too. And this guy just joined in.

1:11:03 So I called Goggins you go for UFC right I went there recently lot of that kind of community around Vegas mmm and it's so interesting that It's so exciting and refreshing to see when people are like, but deep psychological struggle really humbles you, about people that we know now Yeah, yeah. Right. I loved you in Interstellar. Sweetheart of a guy.

1:14:03 He and I just chill. Like I'm hanging out with him. We had a hang a few times. on top of being like this amazing just thinker. But fortunately, I got to hang with him quite often, you know. And there will be a better day. you and then they'll try to damage you and they try to hurt you because they're You don't, first of all, you don't think that when you're struggling and you're all fucked up you feel pathetic

1:17:47 But I'm very aware what it is. moments are, relatively speaking to like, we're talking about Yemen or talking about people that and you're going to be exposed The whole thing was a lot. really culture that he talked about the food was like a vehicle to get into the culture, you know, Then then we became like closer because then we were hanging out just like the embarrassment of it, the brutality of it

1:21:26 you know who just started doing Jiu Jitsu white belts in general they get very excited Did you know about that? He seemed like a normal person. It's the small things that the details now Right. I think it actually has to do with how much power you want to take, That's a very, that's a current, kindness and compassion do you want in a leader Without their knowledge. Yeah, they think mean with all of it, like these people being interviewed, like without their knowledge,

1:25:44 that has immense power. And so if you can get can know the truth, where they can know what is and isn't misinformation. I think it's okay to be that emerges in Silicon Valley you just entered the political division, saying he's not going to vote Democrat anymore. Yeah. Dave is? Yeah, yeah. I think, self-admittedly, And I think part of the problem with politicians as we know them is that they do things for the benefit of themselves that are

1:28:59 just got nine years in prison. to figure out who's... You're not going to get clear articles on either side. talking about? A lot of people did. I'm very suspicious of all these people. I mean, the same thing with Ukraine and Russia. like there's significant institutional racism in America. that kind of stuff i'm trying to do that with uh ukraine and russia and china and india and and western press and i'm trying to do that with these weird elites who are

1:33:33 and destroy everything you stand for it's okay good luck and how the rules don't apply to them. all suckers following your morality. And so the way they do that is to get comfortable with them, get them comfortable to relax their guard thrilling experience to dorks it's so weird that's so weird that's why I don't there was some sort of a connection

1:37:04 100%. They always have. If you go to Operation Mockingbird? 100%, they always have. like a president, right? look, a lot of it is about relationships and influence, right? And you can shift things so that one group of people and a repeated decision by federal prosecutors not to hold agency personnel accountable. Prosecutors sent the rest of the cases back to the CIA to handle internally,

1:39:29 That said, the Catholic Church is doing a much larger scale operation. talking about like no disrespect no disrespect to the mom was to the Molest children they're molested when they were children on like a lot of these guys who molest children they're molested But when you find out the prevalence of it I mean, if you went over the history of the Catholic Church

1:42:31 They're pretty open sort of acknowledging the fact that if you're somebody who's a pedophile, what better way to get access to children than to become a priest? They have power over the church. It's not. But I remember him saying how terrified he was. The gymnast, yeah. like with the shooting we had yesterday that's what I was wondering so there's a lot of that man there's a lot of that that has to do like with the shooting we had

1:45:56 or there was a culture of not reporting on it. Is it just because they're fucked up already talked about sort of uh in buffalo it's talked about the racial aspect of it so it's a hate crime It sucks being human, first of all. So you can understand that sort of imperative and the press wants the drama of the shooting they're hungry for that drama. I see that with Ukraine.

1:49:26 to get the world's attention. And the suffering, the humanitarian crisis will continue as it does Will we get an understanding of it? I wrote this thing once to the government. We see how they are even with an armed populace. They still have a tendency I personally know people have been robbed. I know people who have had home invasions. I know people

1:51:44 And that discussion comes up in terms of like basically NSA style surveillance. I was vaguely paying attention to the details, if you post pictures of guns or have any kind of the symptoms of somebody that might be able to commit this kind of crime. to this that it's a tragedy the way a hurricane is a tragedy that there is cruel medicine and psychoactive drugs and psychiatric disorders and i think you just

1:54:32 She's awful at it. Well, what do you do? It's never going to be the same again. for the Washington Post, They're broken, narcissistic weirdos that pretend for a living. and the power that she has over men, No, it wasn't secret. Maybe they weren't accurate. Yeah, there's a lot. And I wonder, can you be a normal person through that? Like you have a specific amount of water,

1:58:23 It doesn't have the rigidity. I mean, there is a Hunter S. Thompson quality from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, or launched into the air, He's already won. I've watched so many episodes of Judge Judy. I have never seen, I'm not the kind of person that likes, like, it's that do that Yes, and I wonder if they cost a lot more. I hope after this trial's over, they go out to dinner,

2:01:35 Maybe she's married. That guy's got a real accent. There's that, I don't remember his name. like uh like somebody who like a patient who escaped from an insane asylum and is pretending to be a psychiatrist that's probably all she She's nuts. I think it does to anybody who pays attention. But here's the problem. that, that they, they looked at that case and said, not guilty. Like, that is wild, right?

2:04:38 Duh. Right. Do you think Alec Baldwin would get away with that? I think the O.J. Simpson case is an unusual case There was riots. He said, I'm black. So slavery, Joe Rogan. Yeah. Yeah, you should have him on for sure. the book it's an that's how it actually does i never read the book somebody gave it to me as a and he's in jail for the rest of his life and i interviewed him and she was actually in the green

2:08:40 Dude, I didn't even want to interview Trump. regular of that and how much are you gonna carry that with you as you how much are you going to carry that with you as you walk away? certain normal human Well, you wanted to interview Putin, evils they have done i mean i think And if you get away with a certain amount of things like killing your political enemies,

2:11:12 it's not only a tool everything about the German superiority ability to make rational decisions yeah I'm sure you've seen that video of him did not know this or vegetarian or vegan vegetarian yeah yeah so one of the reasons why he had chronic flatulence The kamikazes would, it's a door you open. Heart. road and then that that one is prescribed by doctors well Steven Tyler

2:14:46 That's like a part of your life that just it just always in the background always in the shadows Yeah. Like, what's a healthy carb? since Ukraine of the Third Reich When are you doing that? Are you worried about... But it's not insane Nancy Pelosi You know what? Yeah, but it's not. Pelosi was a political insider. jammers. Look at that one. Are those real?

2:18:01 The cleavage. It's 100% real. I think it's real. I'm pretty sure that's real. There is now. That's the golden rule of the internet. it and it's very likely that they've been lying first of all something's weird happening over at Probably. So are they just like killing all this code? Because that's in Instagram too, for sure. and thinking they know what is information what is misinformation

2:21:48 but their lives are going to have mass damage on society. But it's just a shitty product. I don't know about that. a lot I'm getting upset about. Well, here's the thing. Everybody also liked that video. And they do suck and we need to make them better and improve them because they have mental health consequences because the drama seems to be maximized and

2:25:29 In Putin's defense, NATO was pressuring them And the only way they make any money is if someone clicks on links. And there's so much available that's free. independently of censorship, I don't think people would have as much of a problem with it. That act of censorship, usually automated censorship, happened. going against conservatives elon is a good kind of balance to all this yes and why i mean he got

2:29:07 very bad very bad hopefully we don't use it hopefully don't want to don't want to use civil And the problem is we're protecting dumb people from bad ideas. Who are you saving? It's just the fact that they say it's been debunked? There's a kind of universal trust in science. Right. Like give them, like that's an opportunity to educate them what they often do there's a kind of um sure mocking of the other side it's an opportunity

2:33:02 I think so, too. and the earth is like a flat disk. Yeah, but then maybe it's a slippery slope. They threw them in a volcano. When you open up the album cover, there's like these worlds. Imagine if this one guy was onto something I mean, you don't know how the world sees you when you're not around. I manifested you. Okay. understanding of who you are as an individual.

2:36:40 your your your relationship with your dad your relationship with your mom your like uh eternal recurrence thing where unlike earlier Gracie i guess you don't get to change you just keep doing Here's my thought. It's just now. So why am I scared of doing it over and over again forever? Are you scared of living today? I think we feel trapped by our monkey bodies.

2:39:57 fresh enjoyment of life. And then we hope that one day we'll be free of all the things that hold us down All right. Cheers, sir. completely cut loose from purpose coffee. The waitress was unlike the women he had known. She was unaffected. There was a nature, Then the bus moved off, down a curve, downward, out of the hills. in the snow thank you brother