Joe Rogan Experience #1828 — Michio Kaku Transcript

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0:00 Thanks for doing this, I really appreciate it. That was a blast. Yeah. that this is major news and this is real and there's video evidence that they can't ignore, sighting, infrared sensors, telescopic evidence. Now we have multiple sightings by multiple space. 50 years ago, that's the way it was. Now, things have changed. Now, people are looking at,

3:46 The g-forces are several hundred times the force of gravity. sound barrier. So these are things that we can now document frame by frame looking at these videotapes. evidence of objects that can gyrate just the way the Pentagon has said. And so we now have a sea is that there are weather balloons or something that's an artifact of our space program,

6:29 But it opened the door to the possibility of other. And that's why you have to take them seriously. this technology to evade our Star Wars program. The Russians wanted a rocket that can maneuver Putin announced the hypersonic drones, then the United States military said, oops, nope, to be present that normally exists when something is going at a tremendous rate of speed.

10:06 illusion of some sort, or they have a set of laws of physics beyond what we can muster. Now, if they Well, you look at wind patterns. in front of your eyes. Who has this capability? and they say something very simple, Isn't that kind of like saying that? of the quantum theory break down at something called the Planck energy. Why is that important? The Kardashev scale says that there could be Type I, Type II, or Type III civilizations.

14:55 They harness the power of an entire star, like Star Trek. Then the next question is, how long will it take before you become type 3? rate of maybe 2% or 3% per year in energy consumption. Given that number, 2% to 3% per year, system. We're privileged to be alive to see the first Type 1 technology fall into our So the type one, we would be able to control weather events,

18:27 change in the last hundred years. Hundred years ago, we existed as a fragmented civilization, the history of science and technology, the first phase was the Industrial Revolution of 1800, Stage four is physics at the molecular level, And third is fusion power. you simply think and all your commands or your wishes are fulfilled. it made headlines when a paralyzed man was hooked up to an exoskeleton designed at Duke University,

22:16 And so eventually we're going to connect the human mind to the Internet. then the actors of today could be put out of business Because of, you know, you live in America, you speak English or Spanish, First of all, the impulses of the brain text. You want something different. You want a universal brain language. But the very fact that we can extract a picture from a living brain is incredible.

25:48 They're not very good yet. Do we have a video of the Sao Paulo? Oh, so it's very simple. Yeah. the leg, the tongue are attached. So this creates what is called the homunculus. The homunculus is an image of a human body superimposed on the surface of the brain. So when you want and you can start to fly just like Iron Man. answering questions and having it then recorded.

28:55 One is you can talk to your great, great, great, great, great grandkids. Long after you're gone, that codes who you are onto an avatar. And the avatar then can roam the moon and not have to suffer from weightlessness, However, I'll stick my neck out. I think this already exists. A laser highway that could be right next to the earth for all we know,

31:51 That is a wormhole that connects one funneled universe to another funneled universe. And that is energy. You would probably have to have energy comparable to that of a black hole. In other words, a type three civilization would have the power perhaps to utilize wormholes or compressed can become negative, and that's called the Casimir effect, which is actually measurable. We've

34:25 energy, then in principle, you could rocket to the stars. That's what we're possibly looking at. if you could harness the power of Einstein's wormholes or Alcabier's drive, then you could do this almost houses and planes and things along those lines we have other intelligent life like orcas and whales time they're in high school, they know several thousand words. Animals are lucky if you can get

38:02 Do you think that one of the impediments is what we were talking about because then they can share knowledge almost instantly. That's not outside the realm of possibility, right? Yes. But we do know that there's some species that communicate without language, like bees. bees. I go, what are they doing? He goes, we don't really know. We really don't know. We think they

40:54 and they move on to the next ant, and they bump into them, and then they exchange chemicals, right? primitive language. And when you say ant society, do you mean like the hierarchy of queen and Yeah. But it's magnificent what they're able to do. the language that we get from the brain is interpreted through English, and so it would we humans do pretty well with just a few hundred words

44:31 that try to communicate by gossip. That's hilarious. Yeah. And we realize that just a few Well, I don't know. fertilizer to grow their crop fungus they cultivate their fungal gardens by providing them with But I claim that the number of words necessary to communicate with other entities like insects is probably not that large. that comes with words, enunciation,

47:46 recorder. Then I take that memory and put it into another mouse, or I play it back to Right. This has been done with mice already. Like drinking water from a feeder or something? Because they learn skills. go across the hippocampus. Wasn't there an experiment where they took a mouse or they I think this was, if I'm remembering it correctly, this is Rupert Sheldrake's concept.

51:17 Because I remember, I'm 99% sure it was Rupert Sheldrake who was talking about that. Electrical. Well, that's what's being done now. First, it was demonstrated in mice. Right, but how do we know that this information is transmitted to the mice the trick. That's how it was done. And so what are they attempting to do with these primates patients. That's the goal. And then once that's achieved, ultimately the possibilities are endless.

54:46 that's even possible? Well, digital immortality is coming, but digital immortality is coming in It's not just your voice. It's not just your voice it's not just exactly all the neural connection of 100,000 neurons inside the brain of a fruit fly. Well, in principle, it would be you. And from there, perhaps jumping to a monkey. and there's so much more to a person than just your digital memory

58:49 We vary depending upon the climate that we live in, the community that we find ourselves in. and voila, we have a human. Bottom-up approach is when you bump into things. do it? Nature does it by neural networks, by rewiring itself after it learns every new task. Their toe, they think, is just an alien thing. One is the bottom-up approach, which is called the neural network approach,

1:02:50 in the future, that might be more of an impediment than it is an asset. And I wonder if with our integration, if we have this symbiotic integration with technology, that that might be one of the those things are attached to our ancient primate minds and our ancient primate instincts. And wouldn't Artificial intelligence. But I can visualize a time in the future when our military robots have the intelligence of a mouse.

1:05:22 You met Marshall. You met my dog out there. to people than he does We're the leader of that tribe. in their brain to shut them off once they have murderous thoughts. Then the next question is, But why would an artificially intelligent thing that's been created have any instincts tribe. And why should they take orders from us when they're not part of the tribe? So I think as

1:09:37 And why would they have that? primate minds that are accustomed to tribal warfare. So we scale that up when we can control But that's ideally where you want to go. be better for everyone overall because we would advance better? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It has a big giant head. If we go back from ancient hominids, Australopithecus, What are we doing?

1:14:32 years. Now, there's something called sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis afflicts about 5% And they have an image, Yeah. were one of the first people that experienced this. the big heads. You remember that movie? Yeah. Well, I agree with you that there's a canonical Beyond that, like an octopus. I believe you could take an octopus, breed it, breed it for a few

1:18:18 seem to indicate intelligence. Like they know how to twist jars open. They know how to open things. Yes. I think they have a level of intelligence that we've underestimated. E. The letter E is the most common sound in the English language, and you can rank them in terms by recreating those sounds? do communicate with sounds that are repetitive, indicating intelligence. Are you aware of John

1:21:20 to climax and they found out about that and they shut down the study we should learn the language of the dolphins. Right. Well, what happened was They didn't self-stimulate the same way they did before. They essentially were doing it to medicate where she was allergic to pain medication. about this. She begged them to take it away. and then she fought them when they tried to take it away from her.

1:25:21 A chronic ulceration developed on the tip of the finger Columbia University who located the part of the bull's brain that would stop them if they're He pushed the button and the bull stopped immediately. He's right there with the bull, just a few feet away. Oops. Here it is right here. So the bull comes at him, and it seems like he does something, It looks like it's wireless.

1:28:39 electromagnetic mind control now remember this was done at the height of Manson murders. psychedelic drugs it's very very convincing it's detailed and researched and the guy would drink it, and there was LSD in the drink. Exactly. Well, they were doing a lot of wild stuff with LSD. Yes. I think quite a few. Jumped out the window. Yes. dosage were or operation money bags.

1:31:58 64, okay. proved to be too blunt of an object to get surgical results yeah and they also did experiments on Obviously, there's been the James Randi challenge that nobody has taken up on. Do you think that that might be an emerging aspect So far, we take the language from the hippocampus, run it to our laptop. been done. What do you make of the idea that people have a connection to other people and that maybe you're thinking

1:35:39 Why did the brain immediately forget all the attempts previously when Jane did not call? And that means forgetting all the useless nonsense that goes through our brain. nonsense calling you on the telephone you know selling you things whatever if they tried to work around that by having the person come home at random times. for COVID-19 detection at Helsinki Airport, for example, that dogs can be trained to recognize with 95% accuracy the presence of COVID-19. Also cancer. Dogs can be trained to recognize cancer

1:38:58 in the fox shit. So the other day I let him out in the yard, and he's in the house, and I don't think anything of it. I don't understand what that does. And you can't. Now, for our evolution, we don't smell very well. We don't have claws. Very good. We can't fly. We don't have armor. So what do we things, huge jaws. Why? Because they had to eat raw meat. They had to crack bones apart to get

1:42:01 and they have to be removed or else you get infected. Used to be bottlenecks where evolution speeded up. That's why evolution speeded up in Australia Right. pressure not to mate with a sick person. But aren't we still in some way involved in natural selection? and better adapting to our circumstances and environment. it may be possible for us to mentally enhance ourselves,

1:47:15 Possible. In science fiction stories that I used to read as a kid, the human of the future has a rather than these deformed creatures from science fiction. something that's far superior than that, and it exists technologically or electronically or But it's only in the Jewish race? So you can sense it? You can find it in the embryos that have the Tay-Sachs disease. So you can sense it? You can find it in the embryos?

1:50:27 place outside. In vitro fertilization takes place outside the body. You can analyze the genes and Once we identify genes, for example, that are associated with intelligence, genetic links. If you take two twins, if you take two twins and take a look at their life history But when you extrapolate that kind of technology and that kind of ability, genes from proliferating? But what about legal versions of it? I mean, especially, I mean,

1:54:22 And therefore, they would control the intelligence of their society that or at least there was if it wasn't experimental it was theoretical they were trying to see if it they're different. And they're only different in a very few select places. We are genetically very But we've located them. Right. We're not there yet, but sooner or later we will be at the point where we have to look at the ethics of what happens when we transfer genes between species.

1:58:08 You know, you can press that button on the right-hand side. Yeah, he shut it off. I've tried. bars of metal and they were clanging these bars of metal, he realized that the longer the metal, the lower the note. What paradigm is rich enough to explain the diversity of the entire universe? So this is the electron. What is chemistry? maintain this enthusiasm for all this new information? Well, my favorite Einstein story is,

2:01:52 Look at Einstein's laws, based on meter sticks, levers, I mean, meter sticks and rockets and clocks. just been interested in these ideas, but also been interested in illustrating them to other this man's name was Albert Einstein. And that unfinished book was the theory of everything, fittest. And so great ideas have very simple paradigms behind them. But to explain that

2:04:33 But there's some sort of an advancement to constant new levels of complexity. a universe without a scientist like you i'm just happy that i get to talk to you i mean i don't Okay. If the nuclear forests were a little bit weaker, tuned just right to allow for life. The nuclear force is tuned just right. If gravity were stronger, the earth, the universe would have been blown apart billions of years ago. The

2:07:40 Because on average, well, first of all, we've discovered 5,000 planets orbiting other stars. are, the way we manipulate our environment, I mean, and our constant thirst for innovation, that doesn't seem to exist in other animals. Now, we humans, we've been around for 200,000 years. for some sort of an intelligent, And that's where we are now, either before you get hit with an asteroid

2:10:23 And then we need to eventually become interstellar so that we can escape. If our star burns out, if there's a supernova at a nearby Intermittently, right. diminishing sunlight by 20%. Well, that's a theory. That's the only evidence we have of a possible Type II civilization, protocols. Protocols. Who's going to be contacted first? all of us, that there are protocols.

2:13:00 when an extraterrestrial civilization lands on the planet Earth intelligent civilization. existence. You think that's a bad idea? I think it's a huge, huge mistake. Because look what the technological advantage that Cortez had over the Aztecs is also, there's a biological I bring you trinkets. I think we have to worry about that. And the other one is that they'll simply ignore us because we have nothing to contribute to them.

2:16:34 at the Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana Now, that means at least one of two things. Either the aliens are interested in our But if you were an intelligent species that had an eye on Earth and you're like, you know, they're coming along, but they're kind of crazy. They're wild territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons and they get jealous and greedy and some of them are evil sociopaths and they lack moral intelligence and they do crazy stuff.

2:19:10 they're alien bombers, right? We don't know. But that's a possibility. You see, when you start to What is Element 92? then I would think if you were really concerned concerned that would be the time to step in yeah now that's of course purely And this was in the late 1980s, It's one of the most famous stories in UFO folklore because there's a lot of chicanery involved.

2:22:14 an alien paperclip, steal something. Now, for those people who make these claims, analyzing them frame by frame because these aren't things that are testable, reproducible on film. What scientist had, there was a piece of something that they had from unknown origin that was. And what was the guy? who investigates UFOs and things like that. And it tends to be unstable, and it does not seem to

2:25:52 of 115 and through that stable version of 115 they were able to distort gravity and that that's how And it uses this element, obviously this sounds like crazy talk, uses this element to bend gravity around it. And they both fall at 32 feet per second squared. not even for type two. But if you're at the Type 3 civilization, you can manipulate Planck energy scale physics.

2:28:58 supposedly there is evidence that hasn't been released. There's video evidence and photographic evidence that of it because they realized people would laugh at them. Yeah. Well, remarkable claims require remarkable proof. And as long as the claims are remarkable Yeah. Okay. No. I really appreciate it.