Joe Rogan Experience #183 — Jason Silva Transcript

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0:00 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Well, especially when the guy that said that phrase is Freeman Dyson. It's inevitable, right? You know, we're... through time-lapse you would literally see that it's like our thoughts spill over into the world everything that's been created has been thought up in the imagination and He talks about it from bit, so everything is information.

2:59 They have spreading power. is not a metaphor. Because now we take in matter of low organization, universes of our own construction right paola antonelli uh from the MoMA in New York City she talks about uh she did because we each are scoring our lives customized utopias, our own lucid dreams. other entities that we share space with but um but certainly like how i perceive moment to moment

5:55 Yeah. I mean, I think that the first information technology was language in the alphabet, And Everlast is the same way. the skin bag bias? I mean, this assumption that it's better if it's all coming from within us. She says our smartphones basically give us technologically mediated telepathy. It's a part of us. and the better life will be. virtual reality in our heads, combined simply

8:47 and then impregnating computation into matter It's not to say like instead of praying for transcendence, the best shit we have is the most impressive shit, I mean, one has to acknowledge that, you know, That's where the story of who and what we are. You know, the Germans could have easily done it to us first and then we would have been fucked. It's possible, though, right?

11:10 and it's totally counterintuitive because it's totally not what you think. and yet this is not what you hear on the news and this happened here and that happened there, To have this many people without having to continue your education without without being you know like i think the access they're going to have from birth, it's insane. mean life after language is impossible to imagine i think to people on the on the other side of the

14:22 example of where his head is at he, if you consider the topology of Manhattan universe at its least interesting stages. But where we're moving in terms of the ability of Or the Death Star. If someone started building the Death Star, they would have to keep going. because they're going to come up with some crazy shit. that anybody could just build some rockets

16:42 fuck you up, get to you quicker. it's because of the resources required who started the XPRIZE Foundation How come we can't get a call to not drop? The incredible shit that we have now, why AT&T? They have two totally different signals. But AT&T is definitely better if you want to be able to get online while you're on a call. Like Rogers, is that what it is?

18:59 Any sufficiently advanced technology to somebody 200 years ago, they would how high you got to be to be sitting around going, I want to talk to someone who isn't even here. It's a true history of Silicon Valley innovation computers could be extensions of the human mind i think tim Timothy Leary came out in the 80s and says, I think the interaction that you have with social networks,

21:28 spaces where they can complete each other, is this new thing that rises above the biosphere, What was the idea that McKenna had I mean, the metaphor, everybody uses a different word. because at that point we're going to be so deeply intertwined with these new tools that are going to change the way we think and perceive really gotten any better well that's at that point, it's economics.

23:37 Teleportation. Oh, definitely. And that creates that philosophical conundrum And eventually, after a bunch of gradual steps, you're all non--biological but you never felt any change yeah so that's how it's These are suits that we put on that transform the way we interface. I'm driving around in it. everything that comes out of it is natural. Kelly is that insane it's insane right and it's a good antidote to existential

26:09 You can make plans for the future, and you can discipline yourself, and you can set goals. productive yeah yeah so and yeah it doesn't put anything negative out there right and i you know My ideas are just, it's weed's ideas. But you know what's brilliant about what you just said is because you are creating a podcast now When I do think like that, I should have not been so mean to AT&T.

27:40 I'm sorry. That's a feature I didn't think I would use, but I do. There's the idea of whether or not it's a performance-enhancing drug. and there's no way you're completely stone-cold sober. in the privacy of their own home Carl Sagan, Oh, marijuana made them more creative, it turns out that it induced a hyper-priming effect in them. It's just clear evidence that someone is suppressing human behavior.

31:13 their financial influence, people have never had more power I mean, that's something that the internet is allowing for. and they're going, okay, let's step back here, How much is... Really? or any of these, you know. I know that story, that rumor all too well. Like in Afghanistan? Just a Viagra quick fix. Are we going to be living It'll be like Neuromancer.

34:28 I like the idea of going into my own private universe ether once we could once that's like a psychedelic trip. It is like a psychedelic trip. Oh, he's genius. strangest fucking thing ever wow it was so strange because i don't know if you've ever done anything You don't hear it, but it's's saying do not give in to astonishment more imaginative but what they do or what they can do is pull us out of

37:29 And that's why we always need novelty, because we don't appreciate what we have because we get used to it, new thoughts, new spaces, new ideas, right? So you're essentially like an awesome collector of ideas. perspective. Yeah. Well, one of my heroes is Timothy Leary, If Aristotle were alive today, he'd have a talk show or a YouTube channel or a podcast like the Joe Rogan podcast.

39:32 eat animal dicks on TV about ideas in these forums. Yeah, they're brilliant. What is the Jason Silva Vimeo? Okay. Two, one, zero. choose the most amazing, exciting, and ecstatic we've been able to shrink the lag time between our imaginings and their instantiation in universe. How many minutes is that? What I'm trying to do is reverse engineer inspiration, turn it into a visual form, and transmute that, putting you in my head during these glimpses of nirvana that I'm literally having.

43:57 She's from an entity called Not This Body, and it was a wonderful collaboration. Right to the people. Absolutely. Control our environments totally all just be really fucking cool to each other Like the world is seen different when it's set to music to set the emergent conditions for serendipity. answers for so much humility in the psychedelic experience. And also so much of a perspective enhancer that you're taking in this connection,

46:45 Totally, totally. because the hero's journey obviously can be a geographical journey, right? It manifests the mind. that sort of is what the pull of all this stuff is, right? kicks in, their fucking husband calls them and their kids are screaming. Well, you should read it. This is silly. Which is what we do every time we watch a film or in the Euclidean meat space, it's all real.

49:41 in them and if the vision can translate you know it wears off, when you leave the movie theater, Films and stuff. What do you think about that? And synesthetic means that it blurs the different senses. That's a really interesting way of putting it that I haven't heard said that way. And that's why chimps haven't figured that shit out yet. That would be the most badass scientific experiment of all time

52:17 sounds to you know to early man right like a city new york a jet engine next to like a caveman right how do you make the leap for like six seven generations and chip started losing hair standing up straight intelligent robots. It would be amazing, though, if it was just the monolith is just kind of a placeholder. he became one with his tools we used our tools to extend the boundaries of who and what we are

54:42 It was a really amazing thing. He was just out there, man. that guy had some fucking wild ass movies to a deity in the secular world. Ridley Scott. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to watch some crazy shit for two hours. Dude, but listen, no one but Ridley Scott was capable of that first one. maybe aliens aliens oh you don't oh no I don't remember that man I remember there

57:24 It was she was way scarier that alien was fucking horrifying. You know like you couldn't see it It's like if you went back to the premise of the first alien, the first alien, it was, now and you could just shoot them, you know, before they would, you know, they would sneak was on that level. The first I even watch Aliens vs. Predator. He's like a god.

58:44 know how the fuck do you make something be a james cameron you know how They didn't sink a ship that's when your idea of recreating a full reality doesn't seem so far off. where no one knows your name and you have no memories. It's really close to being just scary sketchy. And this is just fucking video games for your house. So they need to make the supermodel version of that.

1:01:08 There's painters that can paint a face it would look similar to this. the next paradigm will be a film experience They could create that you have to do Maybe make it still or something i literally don't like dying in my dreams. hate life, You're not in your dreams not appreciating life or hating life. There's a great documentary know it's interesting you talk about like not appreciating

1:03:13 We're seemingly capable of anything, to transcend this condition symbolically and artistically. but we still need to work on our existential problems. People talk about scarcity, but scarcity is contextual. And people talk about overpopulation. But the reality is you could fit the entire world's population in the state of Texas. What if you give it a brain?

1:05:34 That's the future. Yeah. And people don't know about this stuff, but it's absolutely insane. vitamins. Yeah, but you can't let Monsanto Biotechnology is not going to be Monsanto. Go to your doctor. Tantric sex? as well there's something about that makes it very sensuous interesting the connection the hive So it's romantic and defiant to say we will not go quietly into that good night,

1:08:17 fucking title I think I'm gonna have to change my message board handle to cosmic i'm like someone's gonna call you that man even if it's tongue-in-cheek like with me it's completely It's like these natural patterns that persist in nature it's evolution, like we are just participating actively This one, wrong. To understand is to perceive patterns. look exactly like computer models of dark matter in the universe, look exactly like the neurons in the brain. They all share the same inter-twinkle filamental structure. It, the more it expands our consciousness by seeing these recurring patterns across scales of reality.

1:11:39 It's like when Stephen Johnson says, look, if we can understand all this stuff, I mean, Like the galaxy. Because they allow innovation to occur. Exactly. in the morning. Hey, Marge. How are you, Marge? Spinning a thousand miles an Well, you know, Right. I mean, those videos are overwhelming. choices that they make. I'll never forget this thing that he said.

1:14:35 parasite seeks to be a symbiotic And, you know, when he talked about technology, I found an old phone the other day. It's an old fucking dead thing. You know like it moved past Their tremors from like, you know one of these right it just allows you to do the artful change that you want to make in the world without having Well, we make choices, right?

1:17:02 That's absolutely going to be possible. And with nanotechnology, we can engineer our own materials from scratch Order an information file, print a toaster in your house. No paying for things? Because people love their status. A lot of white dudes go baller style, right? White rapper dude. shit's not gonna be as funny I'm sure you're gonna make me funny I'm what I am

1:19:21 It's not like you have to wait 20 years for the fucking trees to grow back. Yeah, because that guy, you can't predict that guy in a computer simulation. Have you ever watched that? No, I haven't. You've never seen that? No. checked recently recently there's like our Kelly is down with people listening I want this guy to always exist When the whole club don't want to involve past this bad.

1:22:44 Real talk. Some old bullshit. Well, I an ass. Real talk. Real talk. What? It might be a parody. Never mind. I don't have that number bad caller bad caller I don't know what you're talking about. She's going to come to the show. We should have Ray here. We should have Ray and Barry. I would love to talk to them. As far as those recordings that you can get online,

1:25:18 And he said, note how I use big words. Brought forth into being by language. We've got to fix the death problem, man. That's the next leap. no he was doing really well no I do I think to be human is to transcend our boundaries. I mean, I know. Someone actually asked that. So it's going to be just more and more and he was worried if they had all that people on one side,

1:27:44 The line of the day goes to. It's like the thinker with a bunch of cool colors on him. So it's like singularity meets Yeah. Sprawling. They don't appreciate your talent. do they not see these youtube clips no i just i wanted to make you always constantly re-up it. Of course, man. but you also are tricking yourself into being scared. allowed to gamble they just go there and start gambling yeah you know it's like they feel like

1:30:31 It's a weird, I've always wondered what that's for. And to get you to continue to expand your sphere of possibilities. You created something. Like, the sperms, you know, spreading the seed, as wide across as possible. memetic content. hopefully it's the perfect way to do it though it's the perfect way to do it because anybody And then you put them on the Twitter, right?

1:32:34 when you're saturated in so much knowledge But that's why we love them, dude. you know it's it's a donation and twitter maybe you know maybe you could pump it up to like 200 sad it is but is it natural is it important is it no is it necessary for us to appreciate the good I hope. Unless you're right now in Syria, that the world is going to... them fold, boom, boom, boom, just left and right and everybody knows and they're all

1:35:10 Well, people, people, people, people will persist and they'll they'll be successful. How did he figure it out? And so he just put it that he's called And I became friends with him, and I felt like, it's really inspirational yeah it's a magnificent doc and uh and if you you would love barry the know kurzweil is one of you know there's so many on the internet i mean it's it's it's an amazing

1:37:16 We're swimming in it right now. It was awesome. No, but that was awesome. And I spoke at the Singularity Summit, incidentally, which is the conference that's all about the technological singularity. I didn't meet her like do they just and now when I lived in Boston. And she encouraged people to pick up the nails and contribute to the art. gonna hit the nail but it'd be interesting

1:40:03 that'd be a pretty fucking crazy thing to do rapturously beautiful. I look at true beauty like And mankind has been obsessed with the ideal ever since, you know, Well, beauty moves me. I'm just trying to be funny. The sack is the only of the gray ones. You're like, I need to see your documentary. You're obviously not used Oh, I'm excited. Very good point.

1:42:41 It was an honor just to do it for them. You can find it. questions and when why it evolved because there's a reason that and when Can you imagine? Instead of using chemical technology, using electronic technology. Yeah, there's a few pussies who can't make it. It can change their reality. They close the doors. there. Why wouldn't? That's exactly change it and alter it exactly dude we'll all

1:45:31 We literally just created it. do you subscribe to the stone day theory do you have your own theory no no I to a species that could and changed the operating system of the brain. the size of the human brain over a period of like he talks about that in food of the gods brain size Yeah, it is. No. And you realize what you're dealing with is so profound

1:48:27 is said to have experimented with LSD. It could have been that his friend could do to their thinking, seeing the world when we're adding alcohol, adding anything to that chemical reaction, it changes the results. And because it actually Yeah, no kidding. is it possible that an ape has become a human of that scale. In less than a blink of a blink of a blink,

1:50:49 It's so hard to wrap your head on. A triumph. It's fucking nuts, man. Kardashians show It's so happening right now. and adjusting we're really good at that but the fact that we're able to do it with something as or business models cheerleaders for evolution Like a hundred percent. Well, that's that caveman mentality. They just don't trust themselves.

1:54:13 each his own as long as you're not physically hurting anybody else if it culture. We've got to respect it. No. You don't respect And what these people want to do that hurts you, not one iota. They can do whatever the fuck they want. divorce book loop dude you know what we should do is prevent people from getting Because when you're happily married, people always tell you, yeah, fucking 60%, and a divorce, buckle up, dude.

1:56:09 right in as well and if you want to keep them out of the game it's just because you're worried about Or I fucking you when you go to get your mail. weird right it shouldn't make you feel weird but other than that what do you give a fuck it's just so that we don't get too comfortable ever because there's always those sort of backwards ways of thinking

1:58:06 they just are i've met him you've met him there's no fucking denying when i there was a kid that like embrace who and what we are i mean our differences are what make us interesting but But you think that's sort of enlightened human values, like eventually Trump, kind of this and a great storyteller, they could figure out a way to craft something I meant like a 2001 type movie, like a movie, a piece of fiction.

2:00:35 this is with the ancient i think our yearning for the our yearning for the sublime we can't avoid it And it's interesting because religion has become corrupted That was probably born. It's a fact out of the roots Altered States Oh, my God. Yeah, that was cool. experience for you yeah she says she feels like she's being harpooned by some raging monk and the

2:03:16 It's really amazing when you stop and think about that. It was like Car 69, Where Are You or something like that. Yeah, they had a show we've talked about before. as a president. And the chimp was just running shit? What do you think about people artificial life and with synthetic life i mean cra, Craig Venter, when he created the first synthetic life form,

2:05:05 might have created and seeded and terraformed the planet is, but that might not be the case we might be like on the verge of getting it all together Sending it into space. Adam and Eve was all about, and aware of itself And then what? minds to come together it creates something that's greater than the sum of its individual parts right that's when something

2:07:47 A hundred percent. somehow or another. note you know an idea for an, that was a good idea. is the Egyptian period. You know, the people that realized the highest heights. it's very difficult to maintain that tone for very long i think there and I wouldn't not a centralized network. When you look at Egypt, Used to be smooth limestone with a golden cap, all made back when there was no fucking wheel.

2:10:28 So the only way that the whole thing could be knocked out is with an asteroid, whatever it was, it was Egyptian culture, 2500 BC, deep things thousands of years ago profound thoughts about space and i am all completely It's like you've got to wonder what the hell happened there. They have no idea, information wants to spread. Like, I have to figure out

2:12:44 when it comes to this. I'm still trying to pick ridiculous. What happened? I can't even live in the moment when it comes to this. if we were running around like the Romans People are standing in front of a fire going, what the fuck is this? Yeah. It's just information being exchanged, especially when it's time-lapse and you don't see the individual cars

2:14:09 It's a motherboard, dude. We don't realize how advanced we are as a society. You couldn't believe it was a real view, man. There's no way I would notice it if I It's kind of annoying. I just took a nap. Well, I mean I guess mimetic content I mean Timothy Leary I mean, that's a wonderful opportunity It's only like a couple thousand. Vimeo is the bomb.

2:17:15 We have it available on Ustream. you know just as many people that have seen my videos and be like oh my god He's been doing it for a while. It might not be true. The podcast allows the technology to actually get out of the way. You are freed by the podcast, the size of the following I think people respond to authenticity. What do you say tonight? Or they won't exist anymore.

2:20:06 This has been a mind-blowing podcast. Brian's the man, dude. Yeah, this is one of those podcasts. there's the perfect visuals and it's like really powerful stuff man I'm It's just the coolest shit ever. And please check out his Vimeo videos. Just Google very much for coming in. Thank you, brother. Thank Flesh. You want to distance yourself Don't spread it open. Don't make them smell it. If you go to Joe some reason. Brian, don't spread it open.

2:22:43 how come they don't seem any smarter? You should not be that high and talking to strangers. I don't make that much money from it. Click on the link for AlphaBrain. There will also be a show here tomorrow night at the Ice House in Pasadena. On stage, so much different than his I fucking love him to death. He's hilarious. I've been working with Al Magigal, who is also now a correspondent for The Daily Show. And I fucking love him to death.

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