Joe Rogan Experience #1830 — Meghan Murphy Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Okay. I brought Racia. Well, I give it to people, and every time I give it to people, they're like, Jesus. Maybe he does. Really? I don't like rum. Okay, thank you. It didn't come in this bottle. It's not going to kill you. Yeah, I mean, does it kill you? No, no, no, it's okay? No No? It's not gonna kill you

2:35 I feel like that's the one we should try these coffee mugs here because i'm probably gonna pour coffee in it later just go dude you're gonna Cheers, my friend. that tastes like it came from a fucking coke bottle You know and it makes sense They ain't testing shit I was like, this is so good. This is beautiful. Yeah. You can represent your LGBTQ allies or whatever.

5:52 Is that mostly what you drink down there? No. It's called Women Leaving the Left. sorry, I'm just going to launching into my spiel or whatever. And definitely started feeling, becoming very critical of the left. part of the reason I do it is because it's interesting. It's amazing. come from different backgrounds and I mean I just feel like so many people on

10:03 know the mantra i know what my response is supposed At least now. and they didn't want to work anymore. The bartender would only work for $20 an hour, or excuse me uh for 20 hours a week so that he could get unemployment So I think that like not wanting to work anymore is like, well, like, why should I? I don't have to. Like, they don't realize that it's like it's good for your mental health to work.

13:32 I liked the idea of giving a person an opportunity where, like, we pay for so many things. We just if you oppose that relief, then people say you're cruel and you're not looking out for the working and this is the way the world should be. But, you know, people, when I start criticizing the left, people get angry at me but people are mad at me all the time um nothing new but you know people when

16:20 they i'm sure they've never read marx for most part. But, you know, I didn't want on idealism and ideas that are not rooted Do you think it's like the idea of socialism is great on a surface level if you're thinking And nobody complains about it. But some people would argue that that's where it ends. That and again, we can give 40 billion dollars to Ukraine, why the fuck can't we do that?

19:39 that it is imperative that people have access to health care and i think the health care system No. But also like I couldn't afford to go to school full time. you have to quit your job and you have to go into debt. Like people who are critical of students who rack up a ton of student loan debt and can't pay it off don't seem to understand. They're like, why don't you get a summer job and save money over the summer? And I was like, I don moved to the States. I have to pay rent. Like my parents aren't paying for my life for me.

22:08 I there was no saving money like I did not have thousands of dollars to pay tuition I had to take I think that you need pain to experience and understand pleasure. Yeah. I mean, if you if you are born poor and working class, it's not that it's impossible to get out of it. um because I just thought I was They could see it happening. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's the majority of people that's the majority people and oftentimes what we consider not the working class

27:01 Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? It's like the thing about the idea of the working class is that people are struggling. Maybe lift the barrier to entry to education. That's crazy. So it makes you a lefty that are more effective then i'll support those policies that's what i mean and and also you know who don't know working class people, in disguise in some ways for people don't know you we should just like give just for people who didn't listen to the other episode i met megan because i was outraged um and i brought it up in i brought up

30:50 Matt Walsh is allowed to say that. And I think that's because... I think they took those tweets as an excuse. I gained I think I was in a box Like it was really noticeable. I mean, I'm just guessing. that that's where the viral viral effect really takes place. That's true. on my phone in general like if i'm gonna because i'm an old person i guess like i'm like if i want

34:57 14,000. Is there a number that you have to reach before they'll verify you? I don't know what that is. Like that Like what does he need an Instagram account for? Fine. I mean, God, an Instagram account have a large following, that's very valuable, Obviously, I'm a very authentic person i believe you i i just i mean i i have to use social media for work because i work for myself

37:30 have a public Instagram account twitter you tried to get back on because i know some people that were banned before Because his take on it was like if you were going to buy something and you were buying it under the assumption that, okay, here it goes. familiar with the matter. Such a move would help respond to Musk's repeated demands for more I was calling myself a free speech absolutist for a while.

40:10 No. You want one? Dude, this one is good. Go ahead. I used to go to the bar and drink beer and smoke cigarettes inside the bar. And I take it because I love Sayulita and I love freedom of Mexico with it didn't you see yeah i went along with your joke thank you i appreciate that um you used to be And I'm like, dude, I had two drinks. That doesn't make any sense either.

43:52 And, yeah, you could go to bars and clubs and smoke. I would always come home with, like, cigarette burns on my fingers and holes in my mesh tank tops. This is real smooth, Joe. Please believe me. It is. is like this i was like yeah That's the craziest thing. I don't know. He's like, we're breathing the same fucking air. bars cigar bars have that kind of setup you know or like hookah lounges is that similar i've never

46:31 if I try to smoke a cigarette now, smoke when i was 17 i'm not like doing but you're fucking 11 of them they have to get down eventually i am a very and black out like i want to keep going until 5 a.m so you gotta We've had this conversation three times today. I can't socialize. feel anti-social and like I want to go like sit in a corner and then wait for it to be done.

50:53 It's almost dark. Yeah. at like 3, 4 a.m. I feel like shit. Um, most people eat badly if they don't get sleep. They, they, there's a, they've isolated some reason for why people make poor decisions about it it's like it kills your ability to form, make good decisions. And then you party all weekend and you get to Sunday night and you're depressed One of the things we found out during the pandemic is how many guys jerk off while they're on Zoom calls.

53:27 gross yeah i think it's uh they're also Yeah, yeah, yeah. like at the public library and like on the plane, A friend of mine opened his laptop. Like, can you, like, it's not, I don't know if it's illegal to watch porn at the library because men do it. Okay Right. In international law, a distinction has been made between three types Territorial jurisdiction over national territory. So, but that does mean that in cases of conflict, that territorial jurisdiction

57:35 and it's like super beautiful forests are beautiful mountains are beautiful blah blah blah but i went everything above high tide you can own above high tide that's how it is in But there's been cases in Malibu where they hire private security. So you know what, I think it's called Billionaire's private beach if you want to buy a fucking place and you want to buy a place that's on the water that is what comes with the territory yeah people

1:00:08 What's the name? is wherever high tide is. This is so strange looking to me It seems unpleasant to me. and the way we were at, we were on this place Like this is terrible. I was watching, like, seagulls swim around and shit and fly over here. and then I lived in Boston for the rest of the time. I would never live somewhere, i probably look almost like a normal human being you're many degrees lighter than me even with

1:04:17 seriously fine but if you're take it really seriously i think that's embarrassing and Unrealized dreams. because I'm very good at it and I'm very talented But what's stunning is you go to these bars and there's like 15 people in and you see this person on stage and they're fucking amazing. Talented people, which is great, they get on YouTube hey, this guy's good.

1:06:24 because the barrier for entry is not as steep And there's so many comedy clubs I had this conversation with these guys of other comedians that can help. You're also gonna get to see Hans Kim. And, you know, he's a perfect example. Yeah, he's great. No, that would be so hard. you have to have a drummer and a guitar player and people that carry your stuff,

1:09:17 Right, but isn't that just human taste? Yeah, I grew out of that. I'm like, okay. music and i love music and people who sort of i feel like there's some people who just turn it on I didn't. Yeah, beautiful. Are you really? He's fit. not i don't know burt so i'm not talking about him but like people who are, it's like, you were sort of okay, and now you're like a daily, like you get drunk every day.

1:12:30 would work all the time so i try to like not check my emails and not go on social media and stuff But doesn't he feel like shit when he wakes up in the morning? And he decided that when his tour was over, he was going to slow way down and he's going to get in shape. I'm not exercising. He's like really good at jujitsu. That's the other thing. It's because I have a plan.

1:15:36 I can't not go. I don't plan work stuff. You're drinking all the time. all my friends in BC are depressed well you're a really good writer you know and I think it's a you it's called the same drugs but i think it's just megan murphy like at Substack or whatever. Megan with an H. that don't seem to wanna be there without drinking. Totally. When you're out with some friends and you're drinking whiskey and you're like two drinks in and everyone's laughing.

1:18:57 like they don't they're not as aware of what they're doing they're not as self-conscious be interesting and that's so not the culture and i would have felt so embarrassed to go to a bar by but it was so it was really beautiful because I you know i had been so ostracized in vancouver Like it's you don't disagree with me. So they would be like, you're making things really hard for me.

1:22:16 This is one that's dividing the country right now. And it's just, especially when it comes to high school sports and college sports, compassionate person who also sees the truth and where the rubber hits the road in my eyes is can't compete against men they'll lose yeah it's not fair that's it's that Like if you're a person and you want to compete in certain sports, they blood test you.

1:25:09 But if that person did want to complain, here's what they would say. And how much testosterone are you allowed to have? Because there's a guy named Derek, Exactly, exactly. It's like something's off. I'm just saying in this thing, we have to recognize this is not, it's not boom, you're a woman. You can't discuss reality and you can't tell the truth.

1:27:05 category and if you're female you have to compete in the female category there's no other solution you've gone through puberty you have an advantage your body is totally different like i just Um, and she's not like making a ton of money off of skateboarding. I don't think this is fair. are advantages and differences in all sorts of subtle ways as well as in very obvious ways when

1:29:49 whole life. There's a giant difference. There's a giant difference between men and women. The big We talked about it on the podcast recently. How big is she? Yeah, totally. Watch her knock this thing off. i'm really into mma now i mean i know that i don't know what You almost had it to where the KO is. One, two, three. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and they were always trying to set her up with Christy Martin

1:32:59 no I'm thinking of a boxer I'm not sure who that is. See if you can find that. Ta-da, bang. Actually, this dude's a lot better than I give him credit for. She gets KO'd. yeah, I mean, that guy's good. but the amount of power that that guy had, This is shit grain footage, right? like trans women being able to it reaches every normal person who was not engaged in the debate around gender identity which was

1:36:51 said happening in the late 70s and 80s and radical feminists were like not having it at all. Like And the women who were doing the training were like, you know, sorry, you're a man. They didn't win, you know, trans women or men. This is like a very marginal political movement. Like when Bill C-16, Canada's gender identity legislation, showed up, Nobody would publish anything.

1:40:34 I could write about this stuff and so that I could interview women who were doing work saying that the problem becomes a lot of people that are women who have these with the deepest voice, Well, and that's, I'm like, I'm like, I don't believe that you believe it. But I think a lot of men, you know, identify as women or trans women specifically so that they can act like bullies.

1:43:15 that you're making women feel you're parading around naked in a change room in a women's change in trouble what is this unhinged a hairy armpit She doesn't look in that good shape. like oh well you probably had trans women in your bathroom your whole life you didn't know and it's you must open the door to the possibility the perverts are going to go in there.

1:45:20 You know, biological males have gone into females' bathrooms and assaulted them. Autogynephilia. I think it's Ray Blanchard that did this research um tend to be gay men and men who transition when being part of the reason that transgenderism became mainstream, became part of the LGBTQ activism stuff. they feel like i i'm supposed to be a girl doesn't matter so you feel like you're supposed to be a girl. Doesn't matter. So you feel like you're supposed to be a girl. You're not your boy.

1:48:03 to be a woman and they're healthy every you have to get rid of them. like what are those implants in their foreheads and they like have you ever seen the get rid of all over his arm. So he has like a spiral Oh, there he is. with great genetics Like, that's what he looks like. Lord. All right, let's check out your bro. what does it say up there i bet that shit's gonna hurt i bet there's not that many people well there's probably other

1:52:30 So it's for men, not for women. because they're like, He's got his eyeballs tattooed, What about when you're 90? Yeah. Okay. What the fuck, man? Oh, that was mean. I like tattoos. You don't want to make women feel scared or uncomfortable. so like here's the question if you're a biological male and say you've transitioned and you want to Because you can keep your dick and all your hormones and everything rock and roll.

1:56:50 who question it and talk about it like this is not a you know like there's people that are of people that feel like this is their their chance to show their loyalty to this ideology Like, and some, you know, women, you know, radical feminists who are fighting this. navy seals and some like high level guys that are super upset with this super upset with this

2:00:08 any bullshit there you have to have the the best trained most qualified everything has to be in terms of your will, it yeah you know what a strange place for like wokeness to be inserted it's bizarre that it's using the word privilege because it's overused and it's used in sort of weird You know, and in those cases, their stories are often like these guys start acting really like teenager-y and like get super narcissistic.

2:03:13 about caitlin jenner is like all these chicks are getting all this attention like and caitlin I'll say he, you say she. I mean, and he is also one of those people who like he's talked about like trying on I mean, he doesn't literally think he's a female. Shh, don't tell anybody. i was like nobody wears pantyhose like kill me to make me wear like i don't like gross yeah you

2:05:34 Ha! jacket on and then like flash he was wearing lingerie person and it talks in the same voice it's really wild right but then it's settled down and now is maybe I would have thought I was a boy That's a problem that people are worried about with children, Well, and also, like, why do teachers feel like they're the ones or feel entitled to, Or if somebody was teaching them about like the virgin mary like immaculate

2:10:14 And there's lots of aspects of my personality that I think are kind of masculine. Down with babies i i've never wanted to have kids i've never desired it i don't really like i mean some kids are cool i don't mean like you know kids have personalities like i like some is that a good thing though being a boss bitch is like a good thing lord i know the rappers i feel

2:12:00 It's like, I'm just, I want to talk everything through. things lie right and i'm not a let things lie person got it so that's good if you want to be People go after people who have platforms and share their opinions. and in doing this work is that's not what most people feel. That's not gender dysphoria. Like, you know, women are supposedly like nurturing and delicate and emotional and irrational.

2:15:38 not yet it has to be not yet at least i mean you never know never know it could happen um but i think it's testosterone i think it that plays into this like kind of gatekeeping role that women are supposed to play like women And yeah. It's like with everything, there's just a lot of variables and whenever you generalize And so I have to subscribe to all the same things that

2:18:09 emotional or whatever. But so the term gender dysphoria, I think, bothers me just because of to actually be the opposite sex or you know to get rid of your sexed body parts what do you think other people have theorized around this. So these are not my ideas coming out of nowhere. But, movement is homophobic it is homophobic but it's weird like i mean like in what way he's like well

2:21:09 They're attracted to sex. It used to be that more boys were transitioning. You could just say I'm non-binary. and bang woke chicks. Like, I don't know why you as a random woman would be like, because women get mad about it. invested in I'm a good person I'm a progressive person I'm accepting I'm a progressive person. I'm accepting. I'm inclusive. I support diversity, equality,

2:25:03 Are you going to be a Trump supporter? as the most radical of the people in the group that are the loudest, which is the hardcore left take zip ties to the fucking capitol building and look for a senator to tie up well yeah it's the you far right if you don't agree with the Orthodoxy yeah and that's that's Thank you, exactly. And this is not like – this is something that the warning bells were rang.

2:28:14 Yeah. Well, they're very different things. the World Championships, Okay. I wonder why that is. but it's one of those things. Well, maybe there is one. They don't break that hard. and one of those,'m told is like um shooting If they have more leg strength, Right. You know, what they do is incredible. When did skateboarding get into the Olympics? who's ever spoken out about this in skateboarding.

2:33:41 And he transitioned like the rule. I don't know. function like a vagina vaginas are supposed to be there they operate in a specific way that's conducive to sexual like a fake penis attached they like take the skin off of your arm yeah i've seen that and What is the point of having a penis if you can't have sexual pleasure and you can't have an orgasm?

2:36:45 especially for women it's like naturally you want to get rid of your sexualized body if um you in If you go to a therapist and you're a young woman and you say, connected to past trauma I want people to have the choice, and I don't know how you feel. I don't feel like a woman. You should be like you. I think we're dealing with legitimate people that are trans people where I don't want to

2:39:54 And lesbians. And then they transition and a couple of years down the line, they're like, I'm not a boy. her or that she was indoctrinated. That's all. It doesn't work with her. So for sure, there are people out there that are experiencing the same thing that Kristen Beck experienced, the same And you are, oh, you are a woman, You can't, as soon as you can't

2:42:18 they could rally against and it's it's good for clicks you know yeah I mean in your actual opinions on things when you're just doing these hot takes. Yeah, there's a lot of those, too. if it's stuff that I've thought about. but i think it's bullshit listen i'm a healthy person yeah like by by effort i work out very like there's so many things that are linked to obesity so many diseases so many problems

2:45:06 It makes me so angry. wasn't at equal risk no no no they were not but a lot of people who you didn't Oh, I do. I tested positive and I had zero symptoms. multiple occasions because he just fucking psycho and he kept training and he didn't give his body drove to Vegas with his family, and then drove back the next day and then tested positive for Right, exactly.

2:48:22 And I just like, yeah, I couldn't heal. And then I got back to Texas. And then I moved to the other side of the bed. and I didn't get it and I didn't do anything to avoid it. I didn't do anything. I was hugging my kids when I had it and I felt weak a couple of then by the third day I got into the gym, I'm like, I feel pretty fucking good. And then I

2:51:23 long time after, I think. Well, he's just been exposed But Jamie got COVID in October of 2020. It was when Norman and Gillis had just gotten over COVID. here um they didn't catch covid a second time, but they came in contact with it. you're getting other than that well so but I mean yeah for most people unless you're reading in May of 2020. It was wild. Like people walk around with no masks on, all friendly. We were

2:54:26 fucking high up in the air and that that air that you're breathing i know it's recycled air and i Here it goes. We are exposed to radiation. Yeah, see, let's Google it. Here it goes. East Coast to the West Coast. This amount of That's a good point. Do they protect your junk? It's weird. I don't know. What is the big red one at the bottom? Is it the little tiny one?

2:56:51 A flight is 40. Ooh, hip X-ray is 800. I don't think that's radiation. Oh, see there it is. In the comic books, that's always what happened. Well, the thing is, like, everything has radiation. Is it bad? I'm not too worried about my cell phone. or 462 hours of flying. They're female actors. remember that being a thing yeah it was female was female comedian. That's silly. Well, comedian Miss Pat.

3:00:20 Yes, there it is. But also, I don't care. happening in real life is the important thing oh yeah you know what i mean no for sure i just think they've woked comedy, I feel like there was like, No. conversation with me you're just trying to force me into your ideology for social brownie points It's so funny, though. like humor is not important to them

3:03:13 and a lot of times it's phony, And there's also people And they want to fucking protest. other people what other people think what other people say what other people joke about and i And you want to signal that you're part of the in group, which is tribalism also. said it before, but say it again. Your sub stack. they can still buy tickets Anyway, Bye, everybody.