Joe Rogan Experience #1833 — Tim Kennedy Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Everybody was cool. Amazing stuff and really weird stuff. You should have kept your mouth shut. please stay. it's hard to find a fucking house here. Yeah, it's wild out here. hillbill north in comparison to LA We're fucking it up. Yeah, a lot. And so now I've been going to Brigham at Ways to Well and getting it shot up. and try to rehabilitate it without getting an MRI because I don't want to know what's
3:41 Um, so it's not good for the ego. It's not fun for the ego because the weight that you're doing for the squats in that style of squatting to have your knees over your toes is way less than if i was going to be a meathead and go and squat you know doing the Like, it doesn't feel as loose anymore. But I just have to not be a meathead. a level of killer that I've never imagined existing
5:22 satoshi and as he mauls me um like we're in the cage right The Tackett kids. Yeah. I mean, give or take 10 miles, you can open a new gym. I just opened my gym uh in cedar sheepdog response, like the company mission statement teachers, law enforcement, I literally teach every single day what the answer is to all of this, We have to get individuals to be responsible and be able to protect themselves.
8:52 and these broken young men and try to fix the individual. So we don't, we have to do all these place I want to try and get in the, you know, the the bushes are the landscaping is in a way where kids. There's can get law enforcement to respond correctly while we start talking really It's a very, very, very, very small amount of people that are deranged and broken
11:36 hate rhetoric and that is just building. participate in it, and the longer that we're on it. So those algorithms are really just dangerous. That's one. Hollywood, where I love Matthew McConaughey and I love his position and I love him as an actor and I love what he had to say and I love that he wants to protect schools and children. You know, he's an action star, and he's a great actor,
13:16 we should do about firearms. No, he's a great example of somebody that, you know, morally and You know, music, video games, all of those things. Yeah, sitting still. cuffs on my legs or ice something while I would sit there and relax and what kind of games would We've talked about this. And I walk in and I asked the barista for an oat milk Yeah, she did.
16:30 And tell him to not call your wife your wife They're out of their fucking mind. Imagine correcting someone if they said, correcting someone there. You'd be just as gross. I couldn't people are nuts. But it's just the idea that She, her, still all right. It'll turn and it'll go down a new road soon. That, It's okay to be, I get that and I you know it's a very small percentage of the people and those people deserve love and respect for sure and I
19:18 Let's move on. My own beliefs you don't need to protect my beliefs. I can protect my own beliefs, but um, you know, let's just yeah These young broken men are missing serious masculine elements of who they are. and how to manage it and they love their children and they love America and they, and like the warrior society and the I had martial arts. I had the military we had really healthy ways to burn that kind of growth and learn, you know, getting our asses beat on the mats.
22:46 and learn how to harness their discipline and learn how to be a fucking man. so goddamn comfortable in this country and we're so accustomed to it and it's been accentuated by not just in body, but also in mind. weak Soffing people everywhere so so many so many sloppy people here, and if you if you bring that up your fat shaming thing to do but to shame
25:09 very high because my insurance has to pay for a lot of unhealthy people. I still went to the gym every single day. You're not gonna tell me how you got it? Yeah. And I was working and then I came back in an hour, which was pretty rad. Well, that's how it goes. not anticipating that the Taliban, every time that we moved an inch on the ground, Our interpreters are obviously from Afghanistan.
29:06 call to action. It was lots of people. Yes, it was gonna go and multiple deployments there. And he had a translator named Aziz. And Aziz worked specific specific to special missions units, like the tip of the spear which is a vet, a military veteran nonprofit that takes care of severely wounded veterans and give them chairs like track automatic track chairs.
31:14 government. So the four of us started this NGO called save our 11% of everybody that left the country during the evacuation, evacuation operation, it's a it's a military operation, if a neo takes place, they keep think the airport became an embassy. And like in the movies, you're running the embassy. And if you of thousands of people that were lining up here and they maybe walked a few days.
34:53 or to like crowd control them. Constantina wire on both sides of this wall. So these babies would land in the, in, in the wire at the dudes in the car, there's nothing that they can do. Just execute her. This was every day. of planes taking off and planes coming in, what that is inside a What, one of our, one of the guys with us is codenamed C spray.
38:34 stepping over, because I'm really busy trying to get to of Defense approved manifest that would go officially through like a secret word that they had to sneak into a sentence. And Sorry. And what happens to the people that get left behind? the engineers that ran it. So they don't want them to work they have to have all the engineers that over there must have to how this was all handled that this should have been they should have known
42:12 they were, you know, helping us buy buses to position out in Kabul, like we literally bought It was amazing. but I didn't focus on, I saw all the soldiers from the 82nd being so brave. And I saw all the Marines on the walls, they're 18, Hey man, can you pick up this constant Tina wire so I can slip, slip underneath here with in 10 days but after the bomb happens and we are limited in our ability to be effective
46:34 We're still actively working. And immigration right now is a pretty tough thing to work through. Gordon Ryan, you know, It was going to end where the SIV visa wouldn't be applicable. could have handled it the way they did. And why did they handle it the way they did? Was there a argue about. But the way that we left, that that was really problematic, obviously.
50:07 But I don't know why we just don't seem to learn from history. And the ideals that this country were founded on are beautiful, powerful things. Yeah, and then gone. There's something. every route into the base was controlled by the Taliban. And from you i'm not hearing it this is the problem it's like this is a this it's a crazy scenario Like we I personally escorted a couple hundred into Albania, like, amazing. George Soros's son,
54:54 13 Americans die. The base is shut down. I mean, it is like it We're starting to destroy all of our sensitive documents. out. I have no idea. And so fortunately, the military is amazing you know and they they took care of us and so they and I'm thinking about all the people that we left behind. And I'm like, Hey, I need a doctor. Is there a doctor in here? Like 17 people stand up,
58:19 lands. And we're figuring out what to do with all these that Mr. Soros Jr. had financed. these children to start working through this experience they just had pretty rad Ever again? I think it was Bagram, the general, the Afghan general that ran Bagram base, American forces in the dead of night, loaded all of their people and the stuff that they could carry
1:01:01 Infuriating. Google-able? Yeah. act different policies. The problem is we're so tribalized. We're so polarized in this country that there's people that will vote Democrat no matter what. That's wild to me. So I am a radical Not a single hand has stayed down, right? there's a problem with immigration. We have to fix it. So in the middle here are just a bunch of people with a lot of issues that we all agree need to be fixed and then I guess
1:03:54 You know, it's like that kind of a thing. particularly the way Canada handled things, the way some of the states handled things. They want to infantilize me in some sort of a way. of things you look at australia and you're like that is australia they had concentration camps in But they were just quarantine camps. Especially Omicron. where people are still afraid. They're still terrified.
1:07:12 They've got an issue with the way they view government and the way they view the government, fuck out of here. I'm, I'm that guy. Cause I, I, I have a lot of faith in some people, you know, why am i being locked out of the restaurants why why can't why am i being locked out of the restaurants why why can't physical health. Or I think we're going to have some really serious repercussions. You know,
1:10:19 I exercise. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I have sex with my wife. You know, I have great friends. I have an amazing family. These are all healthy coping coping mechanisms that are that are in place for like a healthy, well adjusted person. They're coming back. You know, they haven't seen find a friend. I just two days ago in Washington, DC, we did a rock around the mall in Washington,
1:11:58 And in many places per age group, it far surpassed the people that were dying from COVID. soldiers, will die of suicide then died in the whole entire seeking help because they're going to be scared that you, there's no, there's not going to Yeah, I'm sure. and if it's you you can't look at their photos Like that Matt Best is anti-2A or that Tim Kennedy hates freedom.
1:14:58 And they're trying to say you're anti-Second Amendment. And then I'm driving down the road. you know, where I think, I think you're guilty. So I'm going to start looking for evidence She's an amazing person. and he ran away like the fucking story is so bad it's so bad and they still tried to pin it on her anymore. Well, it's like the checks and balances just weren't in place for him to accuse her in
1:18:19 block all of those people that disagree with me and then only follow all the people that, They don't get taught. And you gotta be willing to abandon them. like, uh, the Jean Carlos and the Gordon Ryans and, And, you know, what is this thing that you just did? be in the big fish in my super tiny little pond taken place in jujitsu, essentially, I mean, jujitsu has always evolved right there's like the 10th planet system that
1:21:22 all the ashi garami positions and all the different ways to counter. because you're knowing that this person is going to try to get out of it I have Gracie might as see the park. He owns Gracie might as South. Um, and like, I'll go It's not a bad idea. There's hundreds of hours of stuff. He's it like where do you find one of those? Really fucked for playing rugby when he's younger. Yeah, it's um, okay
1:24:08 I love him to death. How do you forget that fight? But Rory right now physically is a freak. and putting it together best spoke for a single person is pretty neat. The fucking guy has no life outside of the gym. My least favorite thing to hear from him is when I'm training with a person, That people haven't seen yet rowers and our skiers. So we can just by osmosis watch technique as they're doing it. So I'm like
1:27:08 it's like me and Shane and Sean Apperson. science of boxing and you know the footwork is different than when I do Muay Thai you know and The Muay Thai boxing thing I think would be difficult because the stances are different and the fear of leg kicks. And I'm not going to learn how to put my shoulder in the right position to protect my chin where I can keep my lead hand low unless I do just boxing.
1:29:21 that you can't learn if you incorporate everything together. Well, first of all, there's a lot of things, You can't just grab legs when this guy has full use of his hands, With palm strikes. And violent, violent Pancraeas fights with high-level fighters. throwing punches like here's there's quite a few i mean look at this yeah that's beautiful these
1:31:13 This guy apparently was fucking with Henzo And that's the most effective use of the back mount. guess where that fucking foot is landing? full power. Obviously, he has a fantastic back mount too. And the referee's like, hey, you can't do that. Yeah, like you're on an Olympic judo floor. bit of the blood and gum and saliva like that all gets mixed in front of this this guy's face before
1:33:52 not definitely not his i i i don't think he ever attacked one time really just control yeah yeah Very Mark Hunt-esque. me and then you're taking a movable and a non-moving object like the earth and like yeah And I take, you know, he had the weapon, the gun in his arm, in his waistband. I'm tapping him in the face with the gun that as he's diving for a leg lock you know how dangerous
1:36:14 You know, but you see guys who excel at that, unless you make this agreement where you're not going to slap or strike. And it's a boxing versus Muay Thai fight. Because the guy comes in trying to box, and he's just getting his legs destroyed. over badr hari like back in the day but like super super high level beautifully oh my god he's he's him in the face and, and staggers him and then finishes him off. Like, which is like, yeah,
1:38:55 But there's reality to MMA that you need to know if you're a jiu-jitsu guy walking by, you know, as this like Don't forget where we are and what this is. It wasn't until everybody else learned jiu-jitsu that jiu-jitsu became a very important aspect of it, but not the primary aspect. And this is what I tell them. And if you're in that protect I had a friend of mine who was a jiu-jitsu black belt took an MMA fight and I knew he did he did no striking he was not a striker at all and uh I go hey man I go do you
1:42:30 from the fucking shin you know or or separate your your thigh meat with his shins like this man, you're a force. Yeah, you're a force. your body knows what to do it's like instinctively you know whatever theater that we're traveling to um Ukraine Afghanistan the military and special operations, you know, they train that skill set, You get the Chicago's and the Boston's just like, oh, this is so scary.
1:46:34 kinder, softer, gentler, you know, and I get they're dealing with mental health, and we can which is with a broken family comes often a broken person um masculinity it's been attacked non-stop and you know we've we've demonized any any kind of of masculine attributes you know let's know it's Any broken thing, especially one that's capable of violence.
1:49:08 For sure. Like the vast majority of people would never use a gun in a mass shooting. and the cops got to him quick. but data for me to be like, okay, what was a good thing that happened? and ends up confronting him and was concealed carrying and stop this guy from doing this active He said it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 65%. we don't spend a fucking nickel to try to fix all these really damaged and fucked up inner cities where people
1:52:26 things that you're seeing all around you and then if i'm looking for an argument for me to say how That's a mass shooting because there's more than one people shot and it's more, you know, it's just. Yeah. and swam a mile, two miles out into the fog Yeah, especially in Morro Bay. And so I'm in just treading water in the fog, butt ass naked. And thank God, somebody saw me walk into the water. And Morro Bay is like a retirement city. And so I'm assuming I'm just imagining I never knew I never knew who it was. This old woman went and called the Coast Guard. And the Coast Guard boat. This is one of the earlier earliest chapters of book, is describing, like this is kind of, 9-11 happened very shortly after that and woke me up as to I need to do something.
1:56:29 like, man, I was gonna offer you to get out of the drink. But side of the boat. My hands could barely work. You know, like I clamber up the side of the boat with get rescued by the coast guard and you're, you're in the fog, didn't lift. that, you know, God's pretty right. you look into every religion, is that in doing that, in training and equipping people to take care of themselves and to protect life
2:00:01 times and anybody that knows me like I carry a ton of shame and humiliation over periods of my life. And when I talked to somebody that knew me back then, and this ability to be aggressive and Yep, mid-90s. and I don't know if Kyle Kingsbury was his first fight but it was one of his first fights I was there for that I mean, Khabib didn't fight as many people as John did.
2:02:56 You know I'm supposed to... Tried to grab some stuff off my kit and the Kimura is like the best But it was that fast. Woo! Yeah. one when he snapped his forearm is that right arm That's uncomfortable. He's such a gem. Nothing. We'd hit bags without gloves sometimes. Yeah. I had Shotokan karate in there. Yeah. I didn't have the Winkle Johns and the Gibsons to wrap my hands perfect like they do now.
2:07:34 Yeah. do you see Chris Lieben's face after one of his fights? in the face with your shins you can elbow it's horrible but if you I guess. You can knee to the head on the ground. I love it. We had Dennis Kang, Jason Mayhem Miller. but there were some years where Dennis Kang you know, as he's belly down, just dropping knees to the sides of the top of his head,
2:10:37 you can't touch me. Did you see Mighty Mouse's fight where he got KO'd with a knee to the ground I think much more realistic is like So anytime I fought... And then we get to the little cage with Melvin Menhoff like that dude's going to be blasting me from the outside With no sponsor money? Super scary moment when I shot a crappy single leg and he took my back.
2:13:04 What led you to be over there? I mean, I was really torn between going with Bob Cook and, appreciate that that intellectual approach to martial arts and uh you know it wasn't just are involved in running something like Jackson Winklejohn, and you're trying to see what cream is going to rise You know everybody's like checking fingernails everybody got deodorant. You know it is like a really nice checking fingernails is good. Yeah. BJ Penn. BJ Penn's got some talents.
2:15:35 And he's my era of MMA. He was articulate. A guy that works with me at Sheepdog Response, his name's Yako. Great black belt, like super talented, It's tough. It's tough. There's a lot of poverty and a lot of drugs and a lot of crime. And, um, And we come across the street and have dinner with her in this Indian restaurant. It took us four and a half hours to get our food. And normally I
2:18:37 And the better ideas as we kind of flush these out. Oh, you disagree with me? you know, we have connections. So like this cool cross-pollination of ideas and those contacts don't exist. So, you know, us coming in have. And, you know, sometimes some special operations can even and all um you know with risingides, all ships will be raised. congresswoman yeah for eight years but the right has her on everything with full total respect
2:22:45 disagree. I think it has a lot to do with the reason that you end up being, um, you know, where like, this is my belief system. Well, they're considered centrists, but some people say they're far right. way that was so non-presidential and the way he would behave was so non-presidential that because of Trump's behavior, the way he communicates, which I just think is
2:25:45 Yeah. together. Like he was very, he's got a huge ego, What's coming through the computer? drugs and crime while they live behind beautiful gated compounds. or depression think of the single mom totally put food on the table next month you know it's It was him campaigning pre-election and what has actually taken place. He's great. she would support the president in a 2024
2:29:25 issues right now that we need to address first and and then she let her off you know but yeah Who the fuck are you? We've agreed that it's okay if it's corrupt as long as we write it down, $40 million. Those guys are professionals. before they happen. Like, oh, that's an idea. I like it, too. chaotic until the Chinese take over. Don't say that. Why would you say that Joe? Take that back.
2:33:33 go into down to the border and to see what is really happening down there it's like you know there is a large number of fucking incredible human beings that are here i'm surrounded by him Response, their heart as servants, you know, teaching teachers, teaching law enforcement, you know, to do it all again the next day. do automatically. the um the scars and stripe this book the whole reason like we dropped it right now is in this
2:37:35 being a 10 year old in wrestling for the first time and getting pinned in my first match and Right. And it is so important. And you apply that with everything. Like I stick my hand on a stove, You have fuel. a fat person walking to the gym. some of them have never held a firearm in their life. You know, they don't know the first thing You know, like that feeling where, did that guy look at me weird?
2:40:28 And you can see them starving. I'm going to do this till the day I die. I think I'm going to. Audiobook. It took me a day to get through three paragraphs. It's even different in that one. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you, brother. Appreciate you very much. Bye, everybody.