Joe Rogan Experience #1856 — Nate Bargatze Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience Yeah, that worked out great It's like you can see when everybody's watching something and it's like they're just having a good time. I think it will be. Versus. go deep they're like people who know like uh like third string quarterbacks that play for colleges I think it's a, and two, for some, I always look at it as like a cash grab.

3:40 they've been doing that's why carrot tops been in ve for 30 years, or whenever he's been there, because there's an act. you're like is this guy or is he like super famous or something and then but you're like i don't know going to sell out madison square garden and i don't know if he i don't know if it is i mean and they kind of just keep talking about their evolution of life.

6:05 And doing it more than that, I think, is too much. having a little bit more time with the material like really made it tighten up more like I feel I feel like this is like the tightest one I've ever had. So I have this hour and then I have the B-side stuff that I can build up and turn into A-bits. Right. I've done every closer I've ever come up with.

9:10 And it's fun to learn it. an actual hour. and then they try to go on the road and headline, the only thing that could come after this is this. it's like, that's what it's like. like the Mitch Hedberg types or the write these jokes to be actual joke writers which is you know this stand-up was it's how stand-up tony says how am i a sexist i'm literally the most feminine man you'll meet all night

12:40 So it was all this craziness. And it was great, man. You've been on the road. You have to. and all this so I you had to learn very quickly how to like how do I get you to come to me right to follow are they don't really have them anymore they're kind of rare now but music acts yeah you They sound amazing. So I took my daughter to the park the other day.

15:48 and what's the quickest laugh I can get to? Louis CK stops in like Jesus Christ like you and any night you're following just Like, and then, and it's Louis CK and he's holding SNS. You just would walk up like I obviously the show is peaked and like it's enough to get a laugh And so they would carry him to the stage. Well, not only that, but at the store, we would do it like we did at the Vulcan.

18:42 Because they have to carry him out of there. what am I doing following Richard Pryor? watching these people flop around their seats laughing so hard they couldn't even sit still because that was when I was doing martial arts Richard Jenny do a set on The Tonight Show. I to love watching like this the comedians on the tonight Yeah. Yeah, so I was in a movie theater.

21:46 And then I think Kevin Hart did, too. You know, they're usually not super long. Like you sell tickets, like, or streaming, you know, like that way where you know you'll go to a place It happens with music, too, when you're sharing an experience. the back of the room, People are looking at each other. Yeah. that they want to go i want to just see you laugh at this yeah that makes me laugh even more

25:01 Well, that was a tell back when he was doing Insomniac. Chicago. Comedy college. move there i had a buddy that wanted to go to second city and he wanted to do improv oh just And then Pete moved to New York, and then I moved right after Pete. and then they drop it on the ground in front of you. still Chappelle was on the Chappelle shows probably the biggest like but still wasn't insanely Louie yet but was was like the one

27:59 and then you're like it's sold out, you're like that dude was just here right right right and now he's not once he's wesley snipes uh started reading the line they were like oh this movie's gonna be like and they're like, oh, this movie's about to be huge. He was a good Blade. whole taping of it what Patton has like a whole bit he like a whole chunk that he did on filming

31:03 Wesley's older than me. to go to jail. Because, wait, John Vaughn, he didn't want to do it. He's really good at karate. Like, I know how to compete. Yeah, because you were younger and you're just, you're so much closer to all the like competing and all this kind of stuff. in the ufc a couple of times It would have been one of those deals. Yeah. I was kickboxing with Rob Kamen. So I'd go in with Rob Kamen in the mornings, who was a legendary

34:33 It got down to I forget what the final fucking straw that broke the camel's back was when he backed out you're going to do great your first fight back because I would have fought and I would other shit that happened and he's like that is so hard to do he goes when you fight a lot he's like I probably would have got brain damage more. I mean, What's the most time

37:04 that had to be a month or two. That's all took off during COVID no I guess more I should say more what that was definitely the most time I took off, And my special I taped outside. I don't want to go do them all the time. Some of them are great. Burr just filmed a special there. Right. Like the driving theaters was like, all right, well, if I'm going, I might as well just go see what it is.

39:04 It was kind of chilly. I mean, there's, it's, there was 2000 people there. It's like, I mean, Texas was still doing shows like in comedy clubs indoors and I was like that is crazy This is not socially distanced. I was like, but what if, like, what if it's not worth it? He said, we got this place. You have to wait 15 minutes. And positive people that got sent home you know maybe half

41:42 Yeah, Ron did some shows with me. I don't remember what it was. But I remember Ron White saying that, He's like, well, maybe I'll do one fucking set. Like, he's a legend everywhere, but he lives in Austin, you know? is this are we gonna get sick from this the uh being around people it's everything it's like going to uh a restaurant going to any like

44:52 that Eric Garcetti guy is a fucking idiot. California that were thinking about moving to Austin. And we said, you know, and I was like, Like we'd go to a restaurant, We don't like it parents live there yeah my parents are there my wife's parents are about an hour away like And, you know, and it just makes it I think it just helps for your material.

48:07 Like they're just trying to like signal to Hollywood. Like I'm on the right side. I'm in the tribe, you know, that comes from this weird place, which is Hollywood. which is the best industry for comics it's the best industry for comics to be themselves And it's like the best promotion for both of us. and you're rewarded for doing good comedy. it rewards you for being real as opposed to, like, you know,

50:00 You're going, I am me. and i think i was like oh you wanted me to do this for the call back and i didn't realize that How hard is it to dye? I could have probably done that. Like there's stuff that guys do where they try to get rid of the gray on their beard. Tom's bald. You have to wear it every... Like I'm saying, I fall for it. like chemical burns all over their face.

53:26 Okay, let's see. Is this what you wanted? And Brody was already, like, struggling with depression. Yeah. me at all well yeah you didn't i had my wife shaved it and went to uh like once it is night Yeah, that's good. Well, it's right in the middle now. Or no? But a guy can go gray and it makes him look like a man of distinction. Well, let me see a picture of Diane Keaton.

56:42 I think that looks better to me than, if she does something, I like it. I guess let's take it all back. They let Ellen run it back. oh it's a little different isn't it funny how that like people found out that she wasn't that person Discrimination a lot of shit probably harbor some resentment bring you you want starbucks you can say anything anything anything you want get me barbecue i want

59:19 I still talk to like all my high school buddies and stuff like that. I got to work, dude. That is right. Oh, and you have no clue. And you get so used I guess that's your And there's a good living in being a writer. is not headlining arenas all over the, he should be, Owen Smith should be headlining arenas all over the world. He's a fucking assassin.

1:02:08 He's so funny, man. fully doing it and then they go and they get into writing but it's i think people find their like me to uh you know it's like yeah this guy's different and then i go show them that it's like it was an interesting situation though because the guys who wrote it um they were really jeff and kevin jeff martin and kevin to bring in a real showrunner and they brought in this showrunner who just butchered the thing

1:05:12 Jeff and Kevin should have been the guys who, it was their idea. Luckily they fired Ray during the pilot and then they hired another guy Like they're not doing you got to go tell a seven year old, like it's all right, they spend a million dollars, Yeah. failed pilots where they could show them all i mean you would see yeah unbelievable amounts of you're distracted, and you're like, what?

1:08:14 would write the shows they'd always talk about conflict and so you turn it in they're like we Everything kind of does have to come together, you know uh single camera shows or everything that's cool so then they see the multicam because multicams are the ones that are still on What did they do? 70s show, right? About a family on the ranch? I hope it's about a ranch did you ever watch

1:10:55 Yeah, but they did. Superior Donuts she's so raw have you ever done a podcast with her no one of the funniest fucking human beings But they also did it on streaming where it's on BET Plus, right? And Miss Pat was angry. So when she sees someone like lazy, she gets crazy. garden at the moment but this is like when is it when is it enough that you go and like do your act

1:13:35 to do more stuff than just this. every show can't be like Murder. I don't feel like I have to be too involved in it because it's too much. And it was like a simple sort of sitcom II pretty funny And stuff for families. and then God does she watches all that's like the women watch those fucking shows Can't even let a serial killer live his own life. He's like I'm just trying to do my killings in peace

1:16:50 it's all her yeah oh really yeah we're buddies party together richer than me. She posted the receipts, if you will. It shows her revenue. That's incredible. So that's $1 million. $4.6 in June. How much does it cost? It turns out you can look Stop lying. Yeah. And they say ridiculous shit and they almost cause the insurrection of the Capitol. Did you ever watch that documentary, the HBO thing?

1:20:32 yeah that sounds right there's a lot of them i went in there the other day i went in one of them It's like, it's not real life. Yeah, careful comments and share images so let's find something in there go to yeah careful Accept. Fire festival. or older men with no families. and then their husbands are there. But there are repercussions like I remember there's this one guy that was posted a bunch of wild shit

1:23:59 In Hollywood like spoiler alert. There's a scene in there where Brad Pitt beats a woman to death on a fireplace you know you have like a opportunity to just be free of expectations you know, you have like a opportunity to just be free of expectations, you know, because like, Because that's not really real life. i think privacy is uh i think privacy is going to go out the window i think that is the general

1:26:41 yeah you get older you're just like what am am I doing? It is. That is, yeah. Yeah. I've cut out most of that in my life and it's made a significant impact. Monkeys throwing shit at each other Mike But it's not, I don't think it's a healthy environment. yeah, dude, or whatever it is, You're like, we found one last night, Well, and they're complaining on Facebook and you read their fucking posts, like, oh,

1:30:52 looking at you they don't feel bad if they insult you and they just do it like they're just sending We'll send a hawk after that pigeon. Yeah, send ravens. Oh, yeah? to go somewhere where you're like in the like there's no one around right like i know like you Really? It wasn't effective. And we were joking around about that with the guys who were out there doing it.

1:33:52 This thing, like, that's what I, like, so the idea of going out and being, not that I know how. But I thought with, because I started watching all this bear stuff. That's so dangerous. Oh, like, it's got two cubs, and, you know, it is what it is. That's so dangerous. go the other way his momentum you know what he does falls forward and because he's dumb nope he

1:35:27 A bear doesn't know to watch your chest until you watch your head. Bobcat Goldthwait made I think think it's something Creek. What is it called? Woodland. And then they have an encounter. Like, there was one, Shakes the Clown, that was, like, about an alcoholic, crazy clown. When we first moved to California, we went camping in the Redwoods, like out that area.

1:37:59 You'd find something. See if you can find something about that, which they're like, what the fuck is going on? But it's fun. We never knew it was down there. think about the movie Abyss where the aliens lived underwater. Like, you know, where it's like, oh, like we have to like talk to them now. And this is corroborated by multiple points of data. They had this tracking system

1:40:24 They followed this thing. They locked onto it. It blocked their radar. It blocked their tracking The Bigfoot thing is just fun, but the alien thing is fun and likely. any possible future progress by blowing themselves up, They still have those instincts, but they have to bypass that. Because then so. you know, I can just flip that switch. Well, if we went out, if the power went out in this country for two weeks, it would be full, complete, total chaos.

1:44:20 just got like once i once i heard about that grizzly bear then i just go down i just listen Yeah. that's the problem with guys get a residency in like vegas yeah like george wallace who's the country. And you go do it maybe later. I think he has a place in Florida, too, so he goes down to Florida. He's a great fucking guy, It was like no one, The Larry,

1:47:16 it's beyond just like uh that's an easy way there's no easy way well carrot top told a story about Bill Hicks because He goes, I don't hate anybody, man. But it was, like. He would probably assume everybody hates him. Wow, and you can be and he's probably alone. Yes. He's an island I mean real professional comedians that are really funny that you would want to pay to see,

1:49:27 Yeah. 300? In the process, like you're almost doing an apprenticeship, you're a middle act, you're How many of those are there? It's got to be closer to the point where you're headlining and people come to see you, how many of them are those? How many of those are there? Let's get crazy and say it's 1,000. That's nuts. Yeah. Right. And you're like, that hang is what it's all about.

1:51:42 And then people lose it when they leave. So if you're being funny with your friends that are not comics, it's like, well, they know you're the comic and they're watching kind of a show. it's just a weird kind of thing and then with comics i think some of those jokes can be too What the fuck is wrong with Claude? for my neighbors, Yeah. I have to go fix this gotta go saw i have to go

1:54:17 They just can't take joking around and they don't joke around in their home. every you're going to get teamed up on yeah and so i'll just be on your you know let's do it let's And then you go and he's just boring as fuck and your wife winds up talking to her friend Right. Do you ever hear that from people, dude? Go that far Oh it's He's probably going to be some crazy Hollywood guy.

1:57:21 you start thinking about it. interesting and he's so genuine like a genuine guy yeah. And he's so genuine, like a genuine guy. Fucking great guy, man. just humans and that's that's the problem with likey positions, like positions of extreme adulation, Like you can tell, you know, sometimes you go to venues and you can like, you see, like You can see someone.

2:00:20 doing that at a comedy club and chris rock ignored him. And he was like, fuck that guy. He's great. will only associate with people that are in that range He probably had an awkward moment. or whatever and then i bring him up and then i uh said a joke uh and i think he made fun of my joke now yes like you're established that's true because some of that becomes where you're like

2:02:31 So I don't even, But I take it as like, are you kidding you kidding me right i've been running my whole life So you don't, you can't trust it. one of the best if not the best ever like well 100% one of the best, if not the best ever. Well, 100% one of the best ever. when you were saying something I mean, he's pacing his state. like a long time ago and Chris went on and Chris was a guest and just talked about it. I think it

2:05:28 He was really good like classic Chris Rock shit chance to watch the set it's nice to see it's because you know there's always an underdog like you want Right. almost like you tell me you're on stage, if you don't have that then you can kind of get lost and then you're like and that's when i think But if he comes back with this next special, You got to find that motivation.

2:08:23 I mean, he's just's just like the most funny And you don't go, what? Yeah. And when you're Chris Rock, how do you not get insulated? Everywhere you go, Before social media, I mean, now you're on a podcast, And I mean, you still don't. I want you to be this kind of like, I see you at this movie and then I don't see you for three years with Matt Lauer

2:11:01 What the fuck is he saying? I'm not saying everything has to be entertainment. I mean, you've got to get a movie, But if you go see Tom Cruise, it's going to be a blockbuster. and she's other shit maybe I don't know I'm talking about I don't think you know it's like every, He's in everything. Yeah, he stops doing films and he works as a cobbler. Like that's what I, it's like I don't think the people are getting out of the way is what I'm saying.

2:14:07 Why aren't they just doing what they do? John Leguizamo made a post on Instagram the other day Latino or Hispanic descent they make up like a certain percentage of the population It was great. And if I'm making a big-ass fucking giant movie, I need stars. Yeah, they're awesome. But it's not like there's anybody who keeps getting chances and they suck

2:16:33 It's it's about getting to that point and it is I know it's not a fair business They're seeking out an exorbitant amount of attention. hope it works out but you don't know what the fuck they're looking for and you're like your then get the fuck out and there's only a few people that can do that yeah that's That's, I see what he's saying. something like that and then they got some dude from Holland to do it I

2:19:39 That's not cool. is in a significant percentage of the population. but he isn't the only man whose reproductive activity still show a significant genetic Oh, it just says 10 other men. We need to show you a clip right now. That's people trying to get their money back. that was back when women were just hot It's so sexist. Let him go. This is so corny.

2:23:30 This is the trailer? why would we have such a realistic depiction people would go, what the fuck are you talking about? I don't think of the Hollywood back then. You only had the encyclopedia really for the longest time okay how do they know so much now then like how how do they must have known someone typed all of Okay, like playing golf. 70s 80s when they found a whole trevor treasure trove of information like guess what we have to

2:25:40 The absolute 100% proven real story They said he killed, they think they killed somewhere between 50 and 70 million people during his lifetime. And everyone knew they were gonna get in eventually. I know like that like back then is like about like it's about the art I mean, it was you There's James Franco again. Weren't war movies a lot of the filmmaking then.

2:28:52 It was at least five years to film that. Especially then when there's, your competition is only, person ever and you're like i've never even heard of them there's so many people now though in terms And he's in something else, too. He was in The Mummy. CGI? Yeah, is that CGI? Wow. Encino Man. Put that on. The award for Marlon Brando and the Godfather,

2:32:32 president of the National cannot accept this very generous award. How did she get it? That is crazy, because they booed her, I'm doing coke. It's one of the most classic films of all time 1973 Just threw it away, right? when everything started headed towards just streaming. Yeah, is that that coffee? I mean, I hope it doesn't really suck, but... Like, they have one shot at making, like,

2:36:33 I'm there. some fucking wizard I mean, is it going to just be like you have those and then you're just picking a la carte? You know someone who put stuff out if I was a guy who made movies faith the ones that is all clean they've been on facebook but this chosen's that they made And I believe it got, I mean, millions upon millions of views. I mean,

2:39:54 it's a very, to go see that you could go like, you have a Joe Rogan app They've done films with phones, with iPhones. is going to have to compete with individuals because it's like if everybody starts figuring and that you, I don't go watch Avengers. the movie industry is like, for a while well then you're like go get brendan frazier you get a guy that's a bona fide star

2:42:37 It's like, this is fucking compelling. He bought it back from the streamer and released it on his website. So if you're only going to be like, Right. Exactly. All those things are very important. That's authentic. Well, let me tell you something. who are actors who nobody knows. it's a punch that you don't see watching tv right they're only watching youtube that's what most kids are doing they're watching

2:46:02 Not really sketches, but it's like a 10 minute version of like It's like, If you were motivated, never used it have you i know red band makes all kinds of crazy music with garage you can definitely But when it has it, it feels completely natural. How do you not know this is happening? You don't write their music. You don't hear the soundtrack. You don't hear the soundtrack

2:48:31 like it's almost like these streamers where no one's going to want to watch a polished thing maybe in 10 years i don't want to see other things become the thing yeah and then you're like well now what i did you look at netflix like So he's like, you're not going to get those jobs. And when the movie business is booming, it's booming for everybody. It's good for everybody.

2:51:06 You're like, I can't wait to see that event. It's okay. Like, is there not, create a new character. It's really good. Tobey Maguire. Was he famous already? Your point earlier made sense to me. it's very impressive. You're like, we got nothing. That'll be in a lot of stuff, you know. Yep. And that this is going to open up the door to a lot of really creative people, for sure,

2:55:02 You can do a lot today. It's this guy who sounds kind of like Tom Cruise, so it works because he does a good impression, how much a polar bear weighs Wild shit No, no, no. That's wild, dude. It's pretty, he's, you know. That helps a lot. Do that again. And then they superimpose it It's on hold right Yeah, or was it bush did he play bush a boy? If those guys made it, it must be good.

2:59:28 I've got to do like your father did and separate the whites from the colors. They're talking about what it was. Did you ever see those guys early on? like much more crude even than the South Park you see now. I've like I've never seen these images before justice what the fuck is that That's what they were going to do? to be able to do that is insanely hard

3:02:09 They might be starting it up again. Come get your family and come get dialysis today. of like the South Park-y thing. Well, the one on the right, that physically resembles his size. The perfect impersonation. Yeah, they're clearly not going for the voice, guy, obviously, that physically resembles his size. It looks a little sketch. But when Dunnigan does it, it's funny because it's not, like, I feel like you could do that.

3:04:09 Bro, that's wild. You have no context. Yeah, like play a Dunnigan one. Bill Maher is fucking spectacular. My name is. Right? And give super long hugs. Rope rival. That's why it's funny. Together the two of them they sync up perfectly personality wise and writing wise and style wise Yeah, it's one of those things where you know they're syncing up wild. That's part of what's

3:08:09 nom, nom, nom, nom. off the charts too he does an amazing jeff goldblum but that's the thing about dunagan too Maybe that's it. Oh my god. Oh that's a good tick Chloe, thanks. Oh, I'm feeling a tickle out of what used to be my pickle, baby! You couldn't do that anywhere else. this is what we're thinking like there's gonna be seeing people make stuff that's gonna allow those guys and that's gonna be yeah that's huge because

3:11:36 I think it's building. let's make a show. where they can at least make some money or touring. So you just subscribe to like whoever you want and and there's no advertising and the money goes Some people, their sub stack is just open. know well i don't know i don't know the answer to that i mean but i'm not saying sub stack but i'm Yeah, but is that the goal?

3:13:49 It's not the goal. is the answer for the individual I think Yeah. believe i can't even cared about that as long as you care about yourself and you just end up it's And at one point you were jealous of that. Inclination to feel negative about the person like I've heard people shit on people that are really good like really good famous comedians like oh

3:16:25 you're going to have a squirrely set is film it yeah you know film it one show you got one show But if you can just take that and say, oh, this is fuel for inspiration for me to get better and to become undeniable. I think it was a book. He was a smart dude. wanted to hear. What they want to hear is, here's how you get an agent. Here's how you write a

3:18:20 He said it already. Just don't concentrate on that. You start making a living. like a John Leguizamo. are there? I don't... I think the whole point of it. Go to the opening scene in John Wick 2. But listen, This is silly. Yeah. But listen listen all the music Yeah. Yeah, real laughs, it was nice to really laugh. When they have laugh tracks What? when you have to run through the whole thing,

3:23:48 The whole audience would be there? You're so bad, they don't know where the setups are, where the punchline is. five minutes and he was so mad and they're getting paid very they're getting paid but it's not much You're getting paid. I'm reading through an article from LA Weekly where they were getting them from Central Casting, professional laughers.

3:25:49 So they would hire, wow. Well, there's also, like, I mean, they're not just good laughers. This is performative laughing. The more like maybe the performers would be energized because they're killing but that will take but it's a it's a better product in your mind it's not in what Yeah, but the Big Bang, yeah. That was Chuck Lorre that's made a lot of,

3:27:53 I don't think I didn't see the last one. I do. I think it would be funny to have them, It just sounds like you're like, a guy just killed himself. Jesus Christ. He's oblivious Is it just Russians? and it's just people in Russia doing stuff. Send me that link to that Russia thing. There's guys in the yellow shirts and guys in the black shirts. Yeah, they get tired.

3:31:04 We're arguing over 78 different genders. Maybe a couple don't go home. All right, I did it. I bet people made prisoners do it. Remember that scene in Deer Hunter? They play Russian roulette with And they're making these guys play Russian roulette. No more. No more. No, no, no, no, Nicky! Go ahead. is about vietnam but the no deers the deer hunter thing is he takes a shot at a deer and misses

3:35:25 i'm going back and watching much old movies because i didn't i missed a lot of movies that's Who are those guys? And they're just yanking them out. It is true. Weird time. Anybody can go grab success. yeah all right i think we did it happy birthday happy birthday to me thank you I'll remember that now. That's like four hours, right? Yep, natebergazzi.com.

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