Joe Rogan Experience #1859 — Louis CK & Joe List Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience When the family in Maine, holy shit was that great with Nick DiPaolo? And I didn't know if he was going to be any good. terrified right now. Good. now on the website. It's really good. of like normal movie it's not about a big subject it's it's about people you know it's really good Well, it depends. screen the camera just a little bit just a tiny bit to feel as disbalanced like if you're just

3:30 I love all the tech stuff. I love He's not like a film school guy who wrote a thesis. They're kicking us out at eight. You've got an actor you get through the day And we wrapped, I believe, on September 9th, 8th. but it was still in effect. Like we just felt what this movie was about, what the engines were that were going to run. We just, departments we started hiring people got a casting agent she started casting just start working

6:41 Like, the woman who plays your mother is amazing. She's like a storied Boston actor. man and wife in many plays, Yeah, the one with the mouth all these great things she's saying about me behind my back it was really bad and it was like no because I couldn't It's why I'm behind this mic as much as I can be right now. That's got to be in here. She's great in it, too.

9:16 Yeah. Unable emotionally and unaware and in a narcissistic bubble. You just quiet. But right now, the best mouth to drink in the interest is the website. Holy shit. It was fucking amazing. Well, it fell. But people loved watching the movie together, I think, and crowds and laughing. My mother's much nicer. sip of beer i thought it was like a sad moment and the place like explodes with laughter and

12:28 yeah, because we're all in New York. When he said fuck you mom, it was, no, you don't say that. but they all like it and they're all compelled. That was the stage show. so you can buy the whole series all five seasons for five for thirty dollars for the whole five I have seven stand-up hour specials on there now. So it lets me operate independently and it's outside of the kind of algorithmic.

15:11 And a lot of people are doing those kind of things now because you do encounter these problems with streaming services and censorship and just weird – just having their input on content. So they have just too many concerns. I like the way, the feeling of it. You know, going to midnight movies, the kind of the way that people used to find things outside of the corporate sort of old algorithm of advertising.

17:10 with one leg who persevered. Having a special like the one that won the Grammy It says lewisck.com. It's's just you know i have i have two emmys that have that on there too Edie Falco, that was the cast. And I wanted to see what'll happen. But that show made enough on the website to pay that back. who I grew up watching and I wrote him a, It is very cool to be able to do things independently and then not have the input.

20:09 They're not gonna just say good job. Yeah, perfect. Just run it make it they like Yes. And these fucking guys are assholes. And astonishing is dangerous. It is. Yeah. a comic in boston when we were kids and i knew she was just a nice lady who i knew and it was just so fun dorothy dwyer who was a comic in boston when we were kids Or how do you handle that?

23:35 Which I argued against pretty hard. I was like, I don't think that's a great idea. It was one day between. That's right. But what I had in mind is that I need to finance the fucking movie, So, yeah. or whatever union shit, they'll shut us down. And there's no place to reshoot. She comes We didn't have that. Do you still get herpes tests just to get that positive?

26:12 that's really that's a lucky yeah no filters yeah you smoke occasionally i like a cigarette Light a fucking smoke. It's the first thing I would do. It's because it relaxes your asshole muscles. Do they still do that? Let's get some. In elementary school. It's a jolt. Yeah, it was a jolt. It's to and a guy was knocked out and his trainer I know how to fix it.

28:34 That's weird. Yeah. I got to wake up. I think it was a fight. One glove, yeah. It doesn't even look like it has padding. I was watching a Muay Thai movie, a Cambodian movie, in a hotel, and they did rope fighting. They fight bare knuckle. Yeah, interesting cat. And they start snoring right away. If you don't snore in your regular life do you snore when you

31:07 Over and over again. When you're with friends that have been knocked out, it's very – that didn't happen. Like one guy, he got knocked out he was like the guy tapped he tapped and like No, they shouldn't talk to people right after stuff happens. 14,000 people I meant how long before they realize oh right? I was in a prize fight. Is it immediate? That's my number

33:09 They all have CTE. like Anderson Cooper reporting from the fucking school grounds. Yeah. talk to right after it's like when there's like school shootings and the press goes there yeah also terrible because when you've experienced a traumatic event your memory is really fucked up Your reality has been rocked so hard. People don't know. because people really don't remember.

35:23 And in their mind, they just decide that this is the person and the mind sort of fills in with memories right memories are Right. who's yelling at him saying, you know? And he's so oblivious that he'll comment on like murders with a fucking knife, been watching, you know, That what's their, you know, incentive to work out, I guess. What's their incentive to work out?

38:04 with guaranteed contracts. But Dustin Johnson and Kepka, If that's a word, I've been around them. This is like, love you, Juice, you're a king. those fucking guys it's on this They're just hoping that he either responds or reads it. me, because he's at my level because he He might feel seen if he writes to Joe. And one of the things the Navy SEAL told him is that when they go on a secret mission, they wear all black and black knit caps.

42:00 He looks better here. Yeah than in the previous video. Well. He know that guy's handsome 80 fucking years old that's a handsome seal oh he Robert Wagner did not kill her, though. Where you know it's like resisting looking for and you know like oh? She fucking probably went to town That's fascinating well. He was trying to make you know Burger King a few minutes later. That's fascinating

43:46 Whoa. This is the 90s before the internet. Alright. I used to have one of those chips in my DirecTV box that would let you get everything. Yes, just pay for it. Oh, God. And there would always be one point where there's a big, There's this pool hall that I used to go to. What a sweetheart. Like if you go on Pornhhub or something you're watching a video

46:51 It's a very thin sliver. I have to say I had friends. I don't like that at all. And you're looking forever for just the right thing. of times it's just getting you know like if for me if i'm writing sometimes and i'm just like yeah how recently the performer has masturbated. I don't always do that, That's why it's hard. And I'm like, I want that to be me, not him.

49:26 And in a scenario where she's in where they call it jerk-off encouragement I mean, those are out there which means before porn had become stigmatized it was like it used to be these girly And there was, I mean, that his sister, who he was having sex with in real life, It was like a decent movie about Caligula. that was what sunk Vincent Gallo's I mean, he was a great actor.

52:00 Really? It's crazy. That's not real. And it's got these extremely graphic lesbian scenes Does that make people feel better if it's fake that movie all the time. Yes. actually see a penis and a vagina. this these like polar lines that we draw with that stuff yeah well you can you can see it in a film I mean, there's a guy, like, sucking a guy off, There's, like, little cartoon dicks everywhere.

54:50 For all the parents. Really good. It's just we had to have Bobby in the movie. always has to relapse. we're showing when you first get your first sponsor really get to know or get along with that much right so it was fun to show that anyway yeah and we took these two girls back to his place to fool around. and something was going on, and he had to go out there and talk to them.

57:10 No, Bobby's had an amazing life, and he's overcome a lot. gone to la well i was there with him yeah so you know you were a couple you were a few years he up guy. this and he gave me a journal and i just fucking cried in the middle of comedy so i was like what And he goes, it's all right. Yes. Is he? Yeah. looks good he's been walking he's like living up in the country he's like a new man he's glowing

1:00:22 It's like the same motivation, but before it was to go to the city, if I didn't have this place now. But my wife got pregnant and you can't, like if you are a person who lives at sea level and you go to wife got pregnant, and you can't, like, And then I realized, ah, fuck. Yeah. you live anywhere on a coast there's a sea breeze and then there's the hot part of the day and

1:02:15 the online life and the phone life those things are like are reminding you how your system actually what's going on in your chemistry So if you think about the original people, Yes. This is going to suck. we are at 13,000 feet or something like that, Because we're used to this perspective that you're standing on earth and that's up, Yeah. And you could maybe build something that was like,

1:05:26 That was hills, this is mountains, right? like the insane majesty of the universe like that's how people are like around mountains It doesn't give a fuck. No. Yeah. and keeping their ears up they're all twitchy in a mouth. 100%. Like after eating a thousand pounds of meat, No, it's real. That's bullshit. But then they go off into the world and they find a friend.

1:08:23 That's right. have the two worst episodes ever of So this moment, it was great? They just knock, and they're like, hey, man, that was really bad. That's a yes. Well, but sometimes they write, you're fantastic. You know you're doing great. influence i give a giant fuck about them they paid money and they came they fucking traveled who doesn't go to comedy shows who's reacting to something that was written about a show

1:11:17 about it and again in a world that it's a sport to get upset yeah it's a it's a soothing fun sport else. They're not invested in it. Or, oh, he's a piece of shit. As talk. About that Twitter. They don't have to mean it. And as comedians and entertainers, we're supposed to have these people just yapping about us. But then if you showed up there, you'd be like, oh my God, Jor-El.

1:13:03 It's crazy. So if you give it all that, you know. Just for this one night, we're not going to worry about offending each other. that's the problem with taking things out of context always. Oh, thanks. Yeah, let's do it. Rebecca Trent, yeah. freaky audience club. intermittently yeah i say that all the time i say that it's like cross training like you should run

1:15:56 But a club, they're looking at it, eating nachos, and you're like, They're always like, come to the garden. Yeah. And I'll do clubs on the road too. I think it's very important is beautiful. I'm doing the Garden your gear myself fucking great specials thank you fucking great just free on YouTube and he's on to another hour now. What is your writing process Joe?

1:17:52 which makes it easier and funner. I tell, I think Because sometimes bits, it feels like there's like a rhythm to it where you're like there needs to be something Just give it time. I had pandemic gigs that were rescheduled for March and onward. And he showed how they developed Let It Be. And then George quits, just leaves the Beatles. fucking great so that inspired me i thought if i approach it that way like i just must have an hour

1:20:54 You're just going to want to kill and go home. stronger and stronger that turned into a new 20 of all shit bits that turned into a strong 20 And they keep adding it back in and, you know.'s your writing process like i mean that's it i i come So they help me also with their reaction. They don't even want to hear it. You just depend. They're like a fastball.

1:23:22 Oh, so you never sat... But guys he trusts and he'd start talking and we go right right and we'd feed him little little lines Yeah, like, what are you saying? Of course. That's also where you can buy Fourth of July, who would just sit on the couch, be there while I'm writing, I have a hard time recognizing bits sometimes in life where I have stories that I tell for years.

1:25:33 and Ron White, this was back when he was drinking, I'm not doing it any justice. I'm fucking crying And he just goes right into the story. I think one reason for that is that those are great. That's the funniest a comedian gets. I'm sorry. They want to be like, that's going to kill because I'm good. Yes. it's sharing you know it's the thing that phil hoffman says in the movie uh the only true currency

1:28:29 you kind of tune, I'm like, And they don't like it. And I think that's more fun to watch, in a sense. I remember Larry Norton. I got a wife and a girlfriend, whatever. I forget what the bit was. It was like Satan having and people just I opened for him at the San Francisco Punchline once. Yeah, it's just like and that loneliness was real it was like that that was his he was lost in his own head

1:32:34 Don't talk about it. let you cut me off. My question was, It's not a story. It was a question. Go ahead. You all right? We have security guards and cameras everywhere. 10 steps. He really is. Abandon civilization entirely he gets rid of his phone You're pushing and pushing. There's also the thing that I think you need to do stuff, then you land in a new place, it's the same thing.

1:35:57 Yeah. Insane. but it looked like a rose, just crazy. critics or audience or Yeah. last night i did the show and then i generally i like to write um at nighttime when everyone's you just like know there's a thing you're supposed to do, but you just get distracted. anything. Um, and it keeps my head clean. If I'm sitting at a computer that can go on the internet,

1:39:34 Yeah. I hate being in my body. it's just you're just you're just corrupting your mind and you're not letting it rest of that human ocean. So I started taking piano lessons cause it felt like being at a computer and sitting at a piano and trying to pick out a piece of music, which I can't really do. to the next and making you dumber and dumber You know what I think?

1:41:44 You're not thinking about anything else. You're not thinking about other comed. That's what I love about jujitsu too. When someone's choking you, Yes. join it yeah I love it I go there's a guy Diego Lopez who's a comedian and he He's not in the deleted scene. His character Jeff On earth that calls him Louis In a lot of things We did this scene where he's sitting in a car,

1:43:25 Louis Gomez, And then we kind of go But it's very expensive to do stunts. So I did something very fucked up and irresponsible. scene if you broke the windshield and he was like It's okay. His hand was bloody, and he peeled it away like a fucking fruit which you can't really hear, you fucking asshole, Yeah, when you're editing, in that, like that one.

1:46:06 Is it hard to see what's good and what's bad after a while oh in editing yeah that is the problem with it that is the Yeah. They're weirdos. Yeah. They're weird people. You know, like when they do sitcoms, like you were in a sitcom and at some point they tested that one. a bad guy, it goes way down. That's why TV and movies are often very sedate you know

1:48:28 They just ended it. Like I was watching Cobra Kai. I don't know anything about who made it, That's a, what a great fucking thing that is. You guys play that game, that's fine. Well, Tony Soprano. a shithead. So, and then he punches him. He's kind of a his girlfriend, hey, I'm just trying to talk to you. And then this guy gets in the way, and then he punches him.

1:51:08 likes you know I think that's good yeah yeah yeah like the fact that you know You know it's like criticism is kind of essential. that they were wrong it was part of the excitement of it, too. Yeah. That's part of people. People take this. I don't believe in misinterpretation as a real word of art. Well, there's still some critics out there, but I think the issue is that journalism itself,

1:53:33 be clickbait back when it was just newspapers. The Post with the crazy, and they did way Then you read the newspaper, you know, But what is coming after this? and we're like, this is the end of the world. They think it's silly. So I think it'll just take its place. It's a book that was written in the fucking 80s, Yeah. Because it knows how long you pause

1:56:41 It was called Emily's Reasons Why Not. Like, you'd go down Sunset Boulevard, in a sense, they're telling you what you're going to like. And they're limiting, they've, that they're not really watching for free. It's the real people just will not, in the end, do what you want them to do. from the audience every night. if I had to quit all the other things I do,

1:59:20 it was awesome and watching the movie with a big group of people was amazing and so satisfying actor oh I like Bill Cosby used to I know he's a serial rapist and yada yada, but Of course, he was a rapist too, I would have loved before all this happened to have sat down with him Well, we're at the outliers And still doing it the old-fashioned way, in a sense.

2:01:44 And I'm waiting to go up and I'm older and comedians that are half my age or less and i'm waiting to go And it's long. I mean, when I was doing arenas everywhere and all that, that was a trip. I think the audience gets screwed because you're this big in a sense, but it was fun. That's it. I mean, during the pandemic, we were doing shows in, what's the town in Pennsylvania?

2:03:43 And there's sleet. during the pandemic the first show that i saw during the pandemic, Burr came to town and he did this outdoor amphitheater. That's right. something special the shows that we did in stubs like Dave called me up and he at least for a very long time and just be really everybody would dance and it was fucking nuts he's doing it right he's an unusual person in

2:06:38 just anything yeah and they're dancing and i look at chapelle and he's got his kind of half-lidded and put her in the middle of the circle I'm going to put this little black girl in it He was listening to this one Nina Simone track, But it was just to see him take in this art, That's a hard thing to have right now. Don L's phone. in Tampa. And then Joe

2:09:25 was sending screenshots of like I can't come whatever so then he was gonna come get just fucking get your phone because derose is texting me in real time being like okay i'm coming Yeah, Ari recognizes he has a problem. be totally abstinent from a phone because you got to communicate somehow and so i mean i try to flip I'm powerless. I mean, when I earlier,

2:11:41 because I need, And I ran into Michael Shea at a club and he said, are you okay? You just need to live with the gap between who you are and what people think of you. And the people that are fans of yours, they know what you do anyway. You're full of shit. Often. get a really high up there where you're kind of beyond them if you get brought down to their level

2:14:32 I think it was. I liked McCain too, Right. You don't need it to be said, you know? He's the best ever. That's what i like you can have opinions about how he did it but he's not he's different than those guys to me No. Yes. Yeah, he's like look it. I don't know where he's smoking a cigarette. Yeah, he does. Yeah quietly and you can't just be a person,

2:19:04 when he would talk like what would Joan Rivers be like now it's just an era, we're in an era Yeah. when The Sopranos was on the air, And once you get into that, folks just cling to it. it oh no i really liked when it was just fucking funny i just really like that yeah so you get it in a precarious position you know, where there was like, yes, I love this.

2:22:56 like that and also just the basic belly laugh just to move in your body that way i think this And there's a bunch of guys selling out theaters all over the country all over the world that are killer i think this someone's at a club you don't get to see their whole set. I was so happy. I was a little slower and quieter dressed and well put together And then I went on.

2:25:39 And I used to encourage him, like, talk like yourself more, showing you really raw feelings, He's very giving with who he is on stage and you know who are great Growing up in Boston came up with doing vfws and firehouses and i see these comics that will kind of pontificate and I don't know. So you just had to be funny or tough. It was the worst gig.

2:28:29 It's okay. so good and they were so crisp and they had an hour that they had Yeah. And they played it, and I was like, on Sunday nights, open mic at stitches and Lenny Clark, perfect. It's all I cared about. Well, no, for mine, it was Jonathan Katz. And the guy would be crying, and people loved it. suggested so anyway he told me to i told him I did an open mic.

2:32:58 And I didn't do it again for another year. We were good buddies. too big. You're too distracting or you're terrifying. You're so big. He was huge. He had And Brian had like a bit of a hoarse voice because he was- What are you, Jewish? guy physically, I'm trying to figure out how do I navigate this? him from like if he attacks this guy physically I'm trying to figure out how do I navigate this Brian's my friend and he's fucking huge and I'm

2:35:19 Scene creatively yes, but there was no show business there Nobody was going to be on TV. There was no television. and the first time I had a positive set And then Tony V came into that. And next thing I know, I'm working at the comedy connection. And there was Mike Donovan gave me great advice once and Mike Dunn was another guy that was one of the fucking best ever

2:36:58 That's funny even in the 2000s when I was starting he'd had the same tape recorder back and forth. Celtics commentator, He's a fucking middle act like they would get upset the guys get on like television and do things my Steven and it was fucking him. And he told me this story He had five minutes of jokes, and he went on stage, with other jokes you start you have two and a half minutes of good stuff yeah you're off to a great

2:39:18 They're so important. that was really funny but it's just you've already got the hardest part down. And the process is odd and it's different for everybody. and I used to love watching him get better, Yeah. A great thing about that movie to me was that we got Nick back in our life. loved Nick because they're not used to guys like him because we're all so separated yes if you go

2:42:17 Perfect timing and really played that guy. Nick or Brian Callen threw me through a window. So like it's Dave Foley's office. I go, but I got these two other guys had these actors who she was friends with that she would like get on parts and so nick calls me up He's going to play my brother. And I called him on the phone. It was fun. I could do it too.

2:45:13 I tried to dress up And I had the sleeves And then I saw Kinison. The easy motor mouth kind of thing. It's so much more satisfying be killing and he would find someone who wasn't laughing. And after, I'm like, I think she was saying how funny. was perfect and i i wrote him a text after and i said that was just everything you did was a was And some guy said something to him,

2:48:13 Great comic. took everyone to hold him back but But it was kind of great, because You're bombing because he fucking killed. No, and I'll very isolated group of fantastic comedians And it was that and then the Tonight Show, right? I do think it's funny, but it's not my sense of humor. Like don't say, like they would tell you, don't say fuck before I go on stage.

2:50:40 I don't know if there's guys that anyone knows, really. It's so funny. long enough to foster. I mean, those guys Yes. gavin you know even crazy guys like teddy bergeron all these guys were just so good, and they had this godfather. boston comedy is like it's very important to people that live in boston yeah and when comics Yeah, for me, It's a special place

2:53:35 Ever. But he sat and did bits like he used to on Letterman. She says, it's on the receipt. But I don't know. Like fucking Burt Reynolds. If I won an Emmy, hosted SNL, or did something that people heard about, I knew I'd get a call from Jay. And he just leaves a voicemail. You know, I just think it's important to say and it's a different sort of thing

2:56:21 show strategy when i watched him in an interview once. And he said, my goal is to come up with jokes that have the broadest possible appeal. And she's talking about her son, Cody. yeah the gay kids do It didn't air. And I know that was him going like, Institution right and that's what he had always wanted and he still did stand up. He was so he has a strange strategy though

2:57:56 because his act would be out there. them. And it's not like he loves hey, stick around. hey, Jay wants to talk to you. It's a jet engine with a motorcycle frame built around it. So is that it? Yeah. close and he gunned it and he just melted the whole front of a car so well he probably had Yeah, 10 was not enough. Oh, God. It's bad. no, 2020, right before it all went down.

3:01:31 And now I'm touring with another new hour. fans but I'm doing okay now I'm selling some tickets you know I go into I feel like I have like a full So if people go watch these two that I put out in the last couple years, It does really well. Wow. He was up for doing it. It's just pure, silly, fucking irreverent horse shit, and we have a blast. DePaulo and Mark are the two funniest people I've ever met They're one and two with respect to everybody just just hanging out. Yeah, I mean just

3:04:56 And he was like, we have to stop this. We just drink and smoke weed and just get ridiculous. And then afterwards, we have a conversation. That was his goal. When did you quit drinking? So it's sad. I mean, we were just at the bachelor party pounding because we slept two hours a night we're smoking three cigars a day i'm like dying without I always text Shane and just I'll tell Shane, I go, I'm here.

3:07:16 sober. Please buy it. That's amazing that you can do that, that you can just hang with people that are getting hammered. Yeah. I'm really proud of it. I watched Zoom comedy. Oh, yeah. He could see their faces. that's going to be life? Somehow it never quite takes off. Sounds great. That was a a whatever that deserves more words whatever yeah i think you should have kept going with that thought yeah i want to fuck my dad

3:10:14 That's what Elon believes. No. Like if you alter your diet and you change some lifestyle things and do some cold plunges I drink a lot of water. They showed me on the thing. no, It hurts a bit. It's, Yeah. Oh, jeez. I could take my life anytime I want that's how things are done Alright. baseball gig with Tom Brenneman. It's in Montana. I was like, come on, it's pretty good.

3:13:43 We had a lot of fun as a kid. Fourth of July. Because I've got to edit it if you want to watch it on a television? People come up to me and they go, They're both fucking great. I don't own the Netflix one, which you can see on Netflix, Thank you very much. I was like, you guys are like, don't look at Twitter. Very funny comic. Thank you, Joe. It's great.

3:16:02 All right.