Joe Rogan Experience #1872 — Tony Hinchcliffe & Hans Kim Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Says, let's see what happens. How are you? Okay, that's good. Like the craziest. It's been pretty crazy. Yeah. This past weekend was bananas, hello. Good to see you, brother. We've had a fun few weeks. Yeah, like the craziest. Definitely. Yes. to vegas so then we all went to see the canelo alvarez fight you and i also saw abu dhabi so we

3:38 And there was a massive cut in the fight That cut that Rodriguez had was absolutely insane. It's just, it's great. And it's like, good Lord. At least. Yeah. I thought they maybe could get burned by the fireworks. as he comes out. I legitimately Pride the dude got really cooked like that wasn't a sold-out fight that was a sold-out fight and so chapelle and i were in the

7:44 He's the coolest guy that's ever lived. officials sit it was incredible they were right there it was really good and we saw the last like like Bernard Hopkins and Archie Moore back in the day was an older guy Youngest guy ever. Gordon makes it look easy. They're mentally compromised, it seems like. What I mean is like they feel the moment, right? He's a giant good-looking guy who talks shit.

10:43 Why would he look that good? And he's cool and funny. Nobody looks that good. Unless he's a bodybuilder. Why would he look that good? accepted as the greatest of all time. Nikki rod is a beast to that what that whole thing was wild man to watch how good the level of jiu-jitsu is now I mean, even when he did it, Like this, that's I'm sure strong. trapped in his legs. It's really brilliant

13:10 So he's one arm strangling him with the guillotine and gov out literally can't defend To do that on a world champion. At anything. they say about gordon yeah it's like there's these guys in sports for whatever reason man they have Right, right. Maybe they would. They should. I'm telling you. i'm telling you after watching maybe of course like you said maybe i was desensitized

15:54 Ali and Tyson and these people had like, those are the guys that sell tickets. It's so nuts. It's such a good strategy. that are all... Then you tell the whole story. comes to the shows we go out afterwards listen, listen to music, eat burgers together. Totally. It seems like, okay, chance, it feels like. Totally. It relies on intelligence and being ahead of you

18:54 yeah that crazy arm bar see if you can find that um cyborg abru is like world champion jujitsu guy like a legendary guy big fucking giant dude His name is... Yeah, this is. Maybe that was the same video. Yeah. never like reviewing my my moves or i just go and train and roll and hopefully i'll get better and coming up with good defense. They train every day, which is really wild.

22:03 which it's crazy how much it's Brazil versus Austin now. But I don't know if you noticed this, And he started listening high level guy. Yeah. See what the fuck that is. Okay, it hurts everywhere, everywhere. He has a TF CC tear Why is that 8 there? It's his wrists But if this wrist has been fucking with him And then I finally got something called, It would just keep coming back.

26:22 And you have to punch sparring partners. walked up to another basketball player and elbowed him in the face and dropped that kind of looked a little bit like you hit him in the chest. and you pretend like it's nothing. maybe your head your shoulder your back your hips you know if you're not prepared and you fall like breaks yeah do they have any breaks at all i mean they have like little short moments where they

29:38 You can't really, depending on where you are in a stadium, Well, yeah, I did too. wrestling and basketball are both winter sports so we went against each other in both He was the news story. He was like that good. His toes are so fucked up. Oh my god. been playing at the high level and he is every day for 30 years like super strong too let me ask you

32:10 Doesn't everybody kind of agree on that? Dunking wasn't really a big thing back then either. like basketball shoes that they can't go back it's like not having short I think it's such a culture now, like basketball shoes, that they can't go back. Fuck your sport. What is happening there? That is crazy. Absolutely. That shit's gotta be But I don't want anybody working on sneakers in any country.

35:21 and the droplets of blood are getting into his eyes, Oh, I'm exaggerating. Huh. Let's see what it says there. Michelangelo himself designed the unique system of platforms which were attached to the walls And it's incredible because it's like you know that his hand touched that, I mean, the brick in the streets is crazy. is it legal there dude it's one of the it's america you can do anything i don't know what

39:22 or 1493, rather. San Juan Bautista, in honor of St. John the Baptist. The same time period that I think You can parachute. What is it? People are accessing it. air yeah just go yeah just go otherwise we're gonna fuck it up yeah we're like rats we just Like there was people on Puerto Rico. The first inhabitants were the Tainos, How do you say that? No people.

43:39 They most certainly are. It's kind of, if we said we're going to get rid of all the pigs in Hawaii, Because all the people that we think came across the Bering Strait, they all came from Asia. Once they were white people. There was a guy who was a Mormon. And they find out that a lot of them are coming from Siberia, that their original genes emanated from Siberia.

45:50 They can find all that stuff. But, like, when everything, when you're, like, a full mutt, I think that's American. Yeah. Where are you guys So for Pangaea, for people who are not paying attention, Wow, 335 million years ago. of the dry jurassic wow it began to break up right when the dinosaurs came along coincidence it's cause of like the drought right

48:32 There's this dead Is there a photo of it there? See if you can find it. imagine how much shit just rotted Look at that thing. Look at that. where you just swarm all over everything No one even comes close. Yeah. very interesting. Bro. The whole fucking river near where all of these blue jean factories are. Isn't it funny that in a movie, For real? a dozen times. It's that polluted?

53:26 that we did a hundred years ago. Ignited by sparks of a passing train. What the hell? and then you click on it, to come to a point in time where there's too many of them. And if you're good, even if you're good, have been doing it 10 years to switch from an apple phone to an android phone i don't even try i don't even entertain Because I'd buy it if it was an iPhone.

56:30 We'll straighten him out. He's got the Galaxy Buds. That's what it says, but I haven't are going to keep up. Yeah, that's how I know what Joanna Yen-Jay checks up to. Let's make this money. Like a virus. Yeah. watch and go see yeah i don't think you should blow that up over the podcast oh yeah you're right Yeah, yeah. That's fine. There's only one bartender.

1:00:31 We picked a good spot. Like there wasn't that wasn't a thing. but it's it's so crazy that i can't explain it i've seen the imagery because uh you know they And then they had a little bit of a discussion. what that sounded like how loud is that gun They're blanks. No, it's a thing that shoots fire out, and the audio is through the speakers. can't he's a i guess he can't but you know i'm can't. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, imagine Roger Waters is a brilliant guy and very, very politically attuned and very, very interesting guy to hear talk about foreign relations.

1:04:14 Yeah. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with what Roger Waters done. you're not allowed to have the same freedom of expression. said that Bush stole it from Kerry they gore Oh Oh gore right the bush stole from gore, but that She wrote it. And so he brings up a tweet of hers from 2016 where she says the election is stolen. Almost zero? That's a different thing!

1:07:30 about it. But if you go to videos, stole an election you tweeted brian kemp stole an election if denying election results is extreme And that was six years ago, and I'm a different person now. He starts again. I was wondering when you That's a very good question. and someone always finds someone and we move on and you know our party's got to do better next time we're going to strengthen

1:10:37 has been perpetrated to swing an election? ID It's just blowing their brains out. I found out, read this week that the IRS is finally setting it up so that TurboTax and all these middlemen that people have to go through are going to be null and void whether it be, you know, ID or social security card And it's the only way you can ensure widespread fuckery is to keep it like clunky and weird and hard to audit.

1:12:54 Yeah. in the tech world. It's like, I'm not saying that any elections Biden won. But most of what people do is they just say something like that. He got the most votes that anybody's ever gotten ever. a lot of fuckery to overturn that election yeah it doesn't seem like this one was They apparently have found some sort of crystal on the moon China discovered...

1:16:29 You know? and then eventually you go wireless. Bob Lazar? this insane element that allowed them to literally bend time around it. go to some insane ability to travel intergalactically it's gonna go to us being immortal a time period where the Earth doesn't get hit with a Technically. during the implementation the first I mean not smart people You see people flying.

1:20:30 No spoilers. turn you don't even know what's in the ocean you think it's filled with grab the Kraken, And they do know that there's giant squids. an octopus that's that big. Found in Nevada, it says. Oh, shit. shit which is crazy the bodies to be under scientists estimate the was an ancient tentacled playing with its food. That's the same picture. The latest discoveries include a break of what is believed to be an ancient cephalopod.

1:25:06 When you say what existed, look at that. Like, if you think about a megalodon. 30 feet, 600 pounds Guess what, you're getting eaten You're getting eaten scuba diving, and a 600-pound octopus decides to eat you, guess what? and just that one last one right as your foot's getting away. weighed nearly a ton. who likes to go catch lobsters, Oh, no. It's not gonna help, bro.

1:27:27 It was huge. You know, there's a great video of an aquarium. They're like, ah, whoosh. Octopi. Depends on where it's taking place. do you think when we were not I say they'd look to this as prey why don't you google this of giant squid kill people I say they have I say a couple divers ate it what do you think Just kicking. I just feel like that. about the fact that squids are out there eating people.

1:30:28 You know, in New York, the Hudson Bay, the Hudson River, they used to get lobsters out of it. They would wrestle octopuses. Bro, that's hilarious. When they weren't and I didn't want kid who's this right? He's been... So this kid who beat the world number one, Magnus Carlsen, Morse code. what was said is it just AI because AI is so much better at chess than humans

1:33:54 So if you just recreated that game with some sort of a computer system, the computer would idea just guessing yeah just say it with assertion, though. Say it like you really mean it. and that's where things took off. and now he's reached this very, very high level. So he's obviously at least a few years ago was full of shit. It seems like you'd really have to learn that.

1:36:32 Is that how it goes? Now memorize moves. If I was going to test those guys for anything, I'd test them for drugs. They're on the WADA test list. EPO, amphetamines, diuretics, Is it cheating he gets stuck Which is Ritalin. Okay. That is interesting. You think it's going to distract you, like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm good. Oh, yeah. He's like, all right, just a couple hits here.

1:41:15 Yeah. And if now all of a sudden you've cleared your health up because you're not either hungover or drunk all the time, when we drink on the road, Boozing as well, can beat you. It's like, the more time units chess where a 19-year-old can beat you. There's people that come out of the gate really good. I always forget, like, Chappelle goes late, you know what I mean?

1:43:01 Great conversations. and then go eat and then hang out until 4 o'clock in the morning. were on stage until forever always right there was always like those late night brody sets And all of us, when we get together and just laugh together, you're doing all the time hans kim checking your ego we're just having a good time hans is over One of the things that Dave said at the end of the night, I thought that was really interesting.

1:46:03 That was one of my favorite moments ever. It's a real, it's a heart. All of a sudden Tony won't joke around. Oklahoma can suck it. Most Ohioans do. What about moving back to it? But don't you think there's value in growing up at a place that you want to escape? was that a lot of those kids that are born there, to just make money, right? Yeah. fentanyl and everything they only would do that to be legalized and regulated in the united states

1:51:21 You get that from psychedelics. to figure themselves out, to work on themselves, Danny Brown's hilarious. Yeah, and I've always been a big rap fan and everything, Everybody was eating mushrooms, andy ate a lot of mushrooms i mean a fucking lot and i was tripping my balls off Yeah. That's getting interesting because they're using it to help people with PTSD, like soldiers, come back from the war with, you know, real troubled minds.

1:54:09 Whatever trauma you've had in your life or whatever weird thing you have in your life that keeps tripping you up. ever done like is it like like do you ever go on a bender of other shit and i would say most likely you're getting coke mixed with a bunch of other shit He's like, well, Rockstar Coke is just pure Coke. Back in the day, they didn't think enough to be like, we could make more money if we just pour more shit in there. Well, this is the grossest thing about this movement to make all these drugs illegal.

1:56:50 And it sucks that because you can't you can't really trust them and you also on the other extreme you I wouldn't trust Pfizer's cocaine It is not addictive. when they do those documentaries, when they see them making the Coke, I wonder how much better it would be. I was like, gasoline is the shit. The problem is not cars. And then they are so annoying that they make you not want to have anything to do with their

1:59:53 this it's never been stable this fucking planet has never been stable ever not That's not good. We were getting our kitchen redone and we got this place on the water. It's the exact same thing. And by the way, even if you're in a boat, and your kids are playing in the room. Don't live near the ocean. Yeah. I also think people are fucking crazy, and they're going to latch on to this climate change thing.

2:02:46 That's pretty unusual, right? that's the case either. Or a cyclone. So they just called it a hurricane for a goof? So what is the difference between a hurricane and a typhoon? the same name as somebody? to get pumped. Hurricane Omicron. Like, it's how it timed out. yeah probably a good move i mean they couldn't even call it the wuhan flu remember How would they feel?

2:05:23 if it came from, and you could name something like the New Mexico flu, Yeah. Oh yeah he got cracked Alright okay romantic There's some people that are happy that New York is dangerous again. Okay. Yeah, it's me, man. neighborhood like i can tell it's within blocks a fucking machine gun and a drug deal gone bad. Okay. He's one of my favorite people that's ever

2:09:20 I mean, the way it's set up, the way when I've brought in Josh Dubin Dubin He's explained it and he's brought in people that have gone on to become lawyers like who learned law in prison Is that nothing changes in terms of like been fucked up for a long time is that We got a spare bedroom. But if the world doesn't look at those spots and go, this is the number one problem.

2:11:10 That's right. Right. There's a whole list of people that make like $200,000 a year working on the homeless thing If I fix it, I don't get the money. There's a lot of issues that That's when you see a radical increase in the number of people like living in tents and just just giving up Oh, right. He's like shitting his pants and screaming at people.

2:14:28 that the message is very important that we get out there to the people and that we stay compliant Tony, you're good for about an hour and a half. there are people listening oh What is your writing process? It's very important, right? As I've progressed in 15 years but it's totally oh shit, that's one. Those road trips are so fun, man. Someone asked me how this weekend was out there,

2:17:42 Who the fuck am I? I'm sure he's getting paid well. spoiled you're like a part of the thing so you you might not see it, but we are having the time of our lives right behind you. Well, it was also a crazy thing i noticed about the apex is that and that was the heat of the pandemic it was like there was no crowds like Yep. fucking a giant spray of covid gas like you're on stage and people are going like this at you

2:20:51 Working ones are out there. Like they never stopped enjoying themselves. that is contagious and when people are scared that's contagious yes exactly yeah both those They're happy with where they are. It's like, Yeah. It's a different thing. Cities have vibes. And they're like, this is too crazy. my body is approved of by society. Why aren't you freaking out about all these people that are obese because it's gonna kill them in ten years and not one

2:25:12 How about that? Maybe we should just shut the fuck up. Shut up,, maybe we're doing good. Maybe we should shut up, Yeah. if they gave a fuck about your health, Yeah. But in a lot of cases, you're not. And we've got to change you had a great set, As far as like a late-night health choice not bad at all And you're addicted. extra carbonated but what if you get like sparkling water like perrier is that what like

2:28:13 Like a stomach, well, you know, man, Sparkling water. It tastes good. I had a quarter pounder about six months ago. It's weird. This is very yummy. But that's just a sweetener, right? Or is it like a regular shelf? Really? a ghost pepper, you would 100% That one has some culinary There's a theory on this in this article that is saying that, but it's not disproving it.

2:32:22 But mammal-strong stomach acids break down pepper seeds, That's okay close. That's how it works The spice trade, that was all about salt. We still don't. There's so much water, it takes six hours to fly over it in a plane. What about the fucking salt in the water? Just churning. They ruin everything. ever ever of all time from chernobyl which is adorable crazy i just looked up the fukushima

2:35:51 How many died? Yeah. And then once it kicks up. That's where it starts. Australia. Oh, my God. Look at all the ones in Russia. Look at us. We have 438. So they're blowing off hundreds and Look at them go. There's a little map Did you find this out from being into squid porn? Yeah, they're into mature at the top. It gets back to normal around that area. They're the ones that take the furthest away. It gets back to normal.

2:39:44 Like spoke to them. or anime in general it is odd that this one Yeah. Usually when the Mongols arrived, that was a wrap. just focus on like these um historical tales that are narrated in a really cool way and then they Samurai of Savate. samurai without a master and he would just wander around fucking people up and writing about strategy, Yeah. They used to put their sweat in vials

2:42:53 If you had an OnlyFans. out of all the things the coliseum How much of it was like pro wrestling? Look over, you see the rest of your body. they fought against animals? 9,000 animals Holy shit. I bet that does a great job at stopping crime, too. Oh, the emperors were doing the pro wrestling. He also competed in a few gladiator fights, Sester? What are you trying to say?

2:47:23 Yeah. Or you could have this AI just telling you the right things and she'd have to correct you. They don't go protest tonight. That's going to be the best way to control people, the dick, looks you in the eye and you're like, and you realize your robot can kill you no, who's the woman who plays the Alicia Vikander. There she is as a robot. could be all mesh and we'll still fuck you.

2:50:21 She looks like a knight. It looks like a sweater over boobs. But, like, how deep do you go before you feel a wire? Yeah. Well, we're so more susceptible telling them the right thing. They only want a person. And all of a sudden. And we all know it. What have you done to Hans Kim? I'm sorry fed him We're way more fucked up than them. That would be like one of those podcast platforms that try to get people to pay money to listen to podcasts.

2:53:52 give up on regular women harder maybe she wishes you're a little smarter maybe she doesn't like the way you snore maybe Yeah. Start taking your DNA and replicating it and turning it into the ultimate baby. ever be so small and vulnerable we could just like download's just make full-grown people. Why should you ever be so small and vulnerable? We could just like download

2:55:40 gets downloaded into your head. We're basing if she's if you're a robot that's only been around for 18 months but you have a thousand years of human history and interactions downloaded into your mind I only said robot. Like, you know, Remember that show? I know what you're talking about. We can rebuild him. The fucking jet crashes. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man

2:59:15 You want to see the dumbest TV show that's ever been filmed? That's what Bigfoot really looks like. No, it never hurts to ask. It's like, oh no. Oh, I don't... Look at this. And Bigfoot's circling him. He's like, god damn it. I'm trying to This is a terrible fight scene. He falls down the mountain, and Bigfoot's coming to get him. For no reason at all.

3:00:59 Look at this. Oh, Bigfoot kicks him with an up kick. Nothing. Oh, but Steve Austin rolls him over. Oh, no. Watch this. So he's gonna up a tree. Oh yeah, bitch. Oh no. Bigfoot hits him with the log and he doesn't even move! Bro, how bad is this? The fuck? No, Steve Austin's not done. Ready? Here he goes. Yes! Don't you fucking no way me. Look how easily he makes it. Oh, another

3:04:23 Now Bigfoot's running away, but Steve Austin is hot on the chase. Everybody loved it. Probably took the woman longer People in this No no no no No, no, no, no. No! No! But, you know. Is it good? Yeah, so don't watch it. Loki was fucking good. No. I feel like people missed how good it was. Time-wise, it's right before that. Yeah, but it was called. Even though it's called Kenobi, the timeline is matching up to Darth Vader at his strongest

3:08:12 Interesting. movie you have a Star Wars movie but like House of Dragons style yeah you because he's not dealing with all the but it's the coolest use of the force out of all the Star Wars things ever made. Yeah. Yeah. The fact that you could tell HBO, you know, even though I loved the last season of Game of Thrones, We're all on HBO. It's a very, very similar vibe.

3:11:20 The Rings of Power. The only thing I'm hearing about it is the black elves. Are you gonna address that right fuck did you people do? Yeah, that's what can you tell us so we can figure out here on earth Yeah, the dwarves are always white. But it seems like that house is all black, and then you have the modern version, it's the same question. That explains what happened to them.

3:13:24 Thank you for having me, Joe. It's been fun. Huge honor. It's been a lot of fun going with you on the road, buddy. Thank you for having me, Joe. Hans keeps us entertained on the road more than anybody And then sometimes you say things and you go like, oh yeah, I probably shouldn't say that. or with humans just like logically for me how i think oh interesting yeah huh it's not good but

3:14:58 It's probably more than four hours a day. He likes to play chess. It's trying to solve problems. in dementia and late-onset Alzheimer's. It's like dessert. All right. the man it's been fun times