Joe Rogan Experience #1884 — Anthony Kiedis Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Sounded good. Right. And anything. You move great. Pounding. Oh, man. We saw him when he was at COTA, And he's still dancing around. and I think Mick Jagger Jesus. He's older than Biden. No? I am looking at 60. I don't know how old you are. It feels so good. Did you get any treatments done on the knee or anything?

4:01 And she gets in there and she starts feeling the hamstrings connected to the knee bones, It's not the biggest part, but it's a part. your hands? Yeah. A chin-up bar? day right however 20 or 30 miles and it's good for your brain it keeps Alzheimer's away you stop because you will deteriorate to a point They need something fun. late relatively speaking relatively yeah so you've been performing since you were how old 83 which

7:17 I had rhythm. I don't think I would trade it I'm not even sneaking. In a bubble, self-obsessed. So you have less of the self-obsession. But the Los Angeles scene, that's that's so true that that's one of Like right when they expanded, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve and it got to a month and a half. Like this is relaxing. It's like less humans.

11:06 That is a wild thing to do in Los Angeles, to ride a motorcycle, And I put it down for a while. Yeah, it's the bike that the California Highway Patrol use. Wow. you're allowed to split the lanes some people are dicks though Forgive them. Also in a car. They wave. This is what I hear. But they call it Texas-friendly. who's friendly, It means a lot. I really have no complaints.

15:06 Yeah. This brings me to my new philosophy in life, which I remind myself every day. Beautiful people. Young people are dying these days. Yeah. And how come these people aren't doing what I want them to do? to pull it back and that's do you meditate at all I do meditate at all not This East Indian guy's up there with a chalkboard But it stuck, and we got our mantras, and we got our practice,

19:50 And also I multitask, kill two birds with one stone that way. I should be so thankful and so appreciative. What a great time. fortunate so fortunate we're fortunate at this very moment yes however steve van zandt is required And he's a good musician. down. The podcast to talk to him about his love of music and love of collecting records and everything like

23:38 There's something about that. There's something about it. When the the music like when a song comes on that you haven't heard in of everything, so drugged up. I want to make people feel like that. Defunct made me dance Did not. It's obviously Tom Hanks is the colonel. It's really good. And back then, there wasn't really someone like him before him.

26:55 We'll make something different and better. We hadn't slept on a bed for months. So we went because i was just a little idiotic punk rocker who had no broader sense of greatness and how He was derivative of black culture. But I get the resentment from those artists. I want to be appropriated. Yeah, appropriate on. Mexican food chefs in the world and he's an American and people shit on him

30:59 But this guy, he's super into Mexican food. real love. Like, what do you want him to do? Yeah. native american gear and they wanted us to wear it they're not worried about appropriation It was kids in a school gymnasium Let's just have fun. their culture we love the culture we love it and you know people are people um i don't care I mean, I don't want everybody to assimilate and become one thing,

34:20 that invented things like jazz and the blues and rock and roll. Yeah. We're very fortunate in that regard. And it ultimately became Texas barbecue. You go to a barbecue, everybody wants the brisket. Like corned beef, pastrami, very Jewish, right? It's so funny that you say that because I actually have. I actually talked to my friend Philip Franklin Lee, who's a Michelin star chef.

37:09 Not a Damn Chance Burgers. It's very endangered. It's like they're wild looking creatures. Look at that thing. In private collections There you go sword fighter, you had to be balanced. You had to do calligraphy and poetry and art, idea is the way of sword fighting was much like the way of carpentry, was much like the way of When I see something great, whether it's great piano playing or someone who's great at chess or someone's great.

40:51 I'm like, oh, I wish I could tell you how to do that. That's him. It's nice to have a tiger. serves wild game. Texas wild game. with the television show Meat Eater in December. You were a vegetarian for a while, right? I want everyone to find what works for them for a few years, got poor again and started eating whatever was available to sustain. She's like, I want you to eat alligator, elk, moose, kangaroo.

44:26 those things. Half of these pictures you're showing, antelope. And I had no choice but to Very red. Crazy if they get to 12. polyface farms and he is uh an expert and a proponent of regenerative agriculture where And if you study nature, which that sounds closer to, it might be more sustainable than we think. like Los Angeles, for example. it to pieces. And really it comes down to what are these animals eating? Because that's what

48:19 And now they're everywhere. So they could have three litters a year. and there's no natural predators. It's surprisingly attainable. Yeah, alligator hunted in Florida this year. It's okay. I had seen too many of those factory farming videos, The experience is, it's difficult to attain. You have to work really hard for it. You're No, I respect that and I wish I had it in me to come face to face with the creature

51:10 I love them. We can walk into a shop. They make good belts. raised a baby alligator on his couch That's cute. They're gorgeous. As are we, by the way, Joe. Yeah, we're pretty mean. We're very mean. Yeah. Well, we use nuclear weapons. Crocodiles can go fuck themselves. Tougher. Tougher. They're meaner. Yeah. They're mean. There was a- As are we, by the way, Joe.

52:35 It's true. I mean, I respect it. Have you been there? and some weird Really? The albino was the wildest looking one. I saw an albino elk a couple of years ago. I was like, wow, look at that thing. Didn't Ted Nugent have a song about that? Ted Nugent might have a song about get white buffalo? White buffalo, very sacred to the natives of Dakota. Didn't Ted Nugent have a song about that?

54:36 God, that's beautiful. I probably wouldn't shoot the white ones. Well, it's also, it's like, you know, In the Amazon, you have the pink dolphin. Different than this? There we go. When is it? But until you actually see them in real life, it doesn't sort of compute. Yeah. I had a day of surfing with a mother and her calf where I live in Malibu. They were like, go for it. You know, we're here, you're here.

57:49 They can see through you. So they have massive brains where dolphins can have one, and an orca is basically a dolphin. They sleep like one half shuts off. As long as we're showing the shit oh yeah so that face in the many people that still don't understand they still don't know and they'll still go to sea They shouldn't exist. but also I would just swim out to one.

1:00:43 No, they don't. They don't have to. john lilly's the man who developed the sensory deprivation tank He was a house that was filled with water so the orca could swim around so for her to get to her bed she had to like you know the water was like it wasn't an orca excuse me it was a dolphin got jerked off hand job hand job so they they found out and they killed the science yeah they're

1:03:34 Yeah. Completely conscious, but nobody. It works. The door. I bet you did. How'd you get home? It from it? It just goes away. I had to come down on that day. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I had to get home. I bet you did. Yeah, it's right next door. It's the premier float destination on Earth. No, no, no. And there's 1,000 pounds of Epsom salts in there. Pitch black.

1:06:37 But everything is input. The sensory input of your butt touching this chair, right? Your hands Zero. Your brain is free to go wherever it likes. Time was up. I do because it gives me that feeling, that freedom. I die. Just go sit out there waiting for a wave. If you think about the storms, 3,000 miles away, There's energy to it. All over the world.

1:09:40 Right. pools? Those crazy places that it's definitely the place to go and also if you live in Texas. Right. So people that are competitive and in the leagues and want to go to the Olympics, it's There was one that just got shot down in Palm Springs. Yeah. The problem is not the lack of water. Why haven't you guys... All that fucking sun, lush. That's crazy.

1:12:23 whole deal. It's amazing. I have a spare lot. If I was going to live anywhere in California, I'd think Malibu. word is which word humble humble no to be close to the ground to be low to the ground oh really But whenever I do go, we go to the Keck Observatory. Whatever the mountain is that's up there, there's an observatory that you get to. But up there, you're through the clouds. I think you're like 11 is it 13 13 000 feet above i could be wrong i think it's 13

1:15:01 And when you get that light pollution, you miss the majesty of the cosmos which is what i So you had to deal with the elements, which is what made a lot of those people so smart. Just art and invention and philosophy and all day, but I've never ridden up to the top of that mountain. Obviously, you could look at it on a calendar I hope not. Yeah. Rebels.

1:17:48 He is a baller. He doesn't want to fuck with my thing. He doesn't want to fuck with my thing. Get him into jiu-jitsu. Oh, my God. I tried it three times in my life. Yeah. The key to learning jiu-jitsu is to learn how to play. And just don't be crazy competitive. So you're not going to learn as much. I mean, it's interesting when you see guys do it for the first few times.

1:20:15 I love watching it. Very, very little. because we don't always have waves. I don't have a beach workout or a weight thing or any of that. Oh, yeah. And, you know, surfing is also like just your core, your balance. you're in another world. Have you ever seen the drone footage They don't. No, when they make a mistake. Yeah. Oh, you got it already? Not happening. Wow. The fishing industry. That's crazy. Out of control. Now, how many people get killed by sharks every year? I say, I don't think it's more than like 60 or 70. A year? Killed way

1:24:18 They want to see what you are Wow. Pretty close. You ever see the- launched through the air. Well, if you're on vacation, you should have immunity. he got that's a big ass elk too. And we got close. and run behind a car are you taking my picture? It might give you a smash. Just for a moment. Flea was part of the party. You're near a food source. Yeah, and they're wild.

1:28:17 they're waving Second time was a mother feeding her cubs mollusks and oysters or whatever she could get. She saw me. Just like, I see you. There's a distinction. and they're much more likely to eat you. but for the most part they're eating moose and deer and mostly calves, too. She was, I forget what she was doing there, California, even though Lavec, California.

1:31:17 There's no winter there. Levesque. So that is up near Tohono Ranch. Other than hungry. I'm sure they were a nuisance. Get out of here. But it's rare. This was a house it didn't know what to do in Pasadena And as he's like looking at his phone, he looks up and there's a bear. I'm happy that we have them. yeah i posted a video the other day on my instagram of a raccoon killing an iguana

1:34:53 That's like you and the alligator the other day. I would imagine that's a tasty meal for him. They're invasive. I will cook eggs for myself. I just never got into it. There's something exciting about cooking something You ever do any fishing? But now I have the same feeling about. but when I see them that's true they lose all their color. And it was like, holy shit, is this good.

1:38:05 But, man, it's not as good. And then we would take a tiny little sailboat to the Bahamas and fish and swim and live. Crystal clear water. He's like, you are not coming. 11 year old Tony. I was like, no, I'm coming on this trip. I'm going to help. So my aunt sanctioned little Tony getting on the boat. And we pull this racing sailboat to be checking out right now. I mean,

1:40:27 floored the engine which sent most of the water out of the boat and everything was fine wow he We were done. They just decided to learn how to sail, and they lived in the Bahamas. I enjoy fishing. I enjoy being on the water i love the ocean bouncing around at the mercy of the waves I love this. Yeah, I love that too. Like I said, if I was going to live in California, I would live in Malibu.

1:43:41 And in the morning, I would eat breakfast. there's just a vibe to it when you realize that these animals are out there Flea and I discovered it at 16. And when we were 16, I said, flee. So this is the 70s. and maybe saw a UFO or two. gay and black and fashionable and very much on the scene of L.A. clubs. And they looked at him like, because he's not a musician.

1:47:13 That was just the beginning of a 40-year run. He didn't run it by you first? Whatever was easy. He's a phenom. He was just genetically coordinated. And then he played in 20 different rock bands as a kid, in this adult world of a broken home, suddenly people are paying attention and listening. an accident that these people end up where they end up. It's a lifetime of just everything working out so that that's your life.

1:50:25 we played one song in the club. and we came back next week At the time, no. But really it's just about being present, oh, it's got to sound like this, it could be hip-hop, and just play until they have something, What do you think? paper and a pencil or however you write something's gonna happen something always happens sometimes So, yeah, I like to sit on my back porch with a boom box and play today's rehearsal

1:55:14 Intellectual is fun. sharing a part of your life experience you're sharing a part of your Or do you guys mix up? What a trip. He wasn't a dad. And we would just spend our days together he was a lot less busy he wasn't a dad and we would just hang all day what are you working on show me the songs you're writing because he's Show him the song. It's like an understanding of what it is.

1:59:06 it's no accident that he ended up being the person that he is her nephew and every weekend up his dream and i think probably also being a single kid, They were like, That's what's so crazy about his story. Yes. Call us and he just did it by following magic yeah yeah so i i met him in maybe 1985 They gave us a little basement to rehearse in. And he was with the Beastie Boys.

2:03:05 through our songs. And Rick said, we're going to go now. I was like, OK, do we do we talk again? That's how dark I had become is he was afraid someone was going to die and it was time to leave. Not exactly. Spiritually, a little depleted. and it was exciting but it was also painful as hell it was just like in the end this is a life I probably did the cocaine shortly before the heroin,

2:06:51 It was happening around me in my world. sensation of finding your medicine right i had that reaction like i felt whole by putting these things in me until i had to pay the toll you know it's like you steal from peter you got to pay paul So I had put down the craft of sobriety and it opened an opportunity. How did you get sober the first time? literally flooding my body with the substance

2:09:55 I was like, I have 10 grand. And the counselor said, I'm looking at 30 of you. there was just every variety aspect to it all. And that was the beginning of me taking many years to go from being a complete It was more of a, there are lots of things you have to change about the way you're doing business with people in the world, you have to show up because really the language of one addict talking to

2:12:57 But is it like it's not necessarily physical, right? Yes. that they do on people, I did. I was done. One, because he snorted pills that were mixed with glass because someone was crushing the pills up with a salt shaker, and it had glass in it. There are people who can do it. He was so sober and he was so funny. I fucking get it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wheelchair?

2:17:52 I had no business being on stage with Richard Pryor. I had never laughed so hard as I was laughing at this guy who was just talking. And that planted the seed Just nuts. because he was gone. in a way he kind of earned the right to go out long beach oh yeah that's my jam oh my god that was when that guy came up to take a picture at And it's a great special, too.

2:21:20 Fox Comedy Club. Red Fox had a comedy club in Los Angeles. You could hear the clink of ice cubes in the glass You have those cassettes. You're taking good care of those cassettes? Oh yeah. You have those cassettes. which is great. I appreciate that. It was fun. It was easy. It was magic. but I have my connection to comedy, as a human being, we're all full of everything.

2:24:14 In my opinion, it was beautiful. campaign banners where it was like wc fields for president yeah and it just kind of fit into the chorus dave chappelle for president i wasn't like making a serious statement it was just like oh i Beautiful. You know, now you can just find them like that online. It's different. Something like that. Craps how many minutes is that Jamie?

2:26:46 yeah after we talked about it it is a great thing That now you just tap that button and it's there so yeah you're reaching a was like wow that's an interesting way of looking at it because like some people didn't think of it You guys had already made so much money selling actual physical records by then, right? CDs. Yes. and a productive bandmate You would just

2:30:08 this can't happen. And yeah, time and energy making something good. And the people that are downloading It's going to change for everybody with everything, whether it's with movies, with everything you could imagine. in the same year, well, we have to make sure that this doesn't leak. More people tell people about it. It's easy for me to say I'm not missing meals.

2:33:00 yeah for the first time i don't remember like i met you in an arena like early in the day for some That's a good promotion. ever happened to me in my lifetime like that to talk about lucky to be born at a certain time and place. fistfights no fistfights in history i'm like god don't do that don't do that yeah it's just like and to see that you actually appreciate it.

2:36:08 Still am. She's a beast, and she gets better with every fight. She's wild. I've been working as a commentator for 20 years. 1993. Well, there's not really a sport that's evolved that much since 1993 to 2022 It's very exciting. and he and I will have two-hour conversation about fights. Yeah. He's the best. I'd rather keep them separate like church and state.

2:39:49 Yeah, I want fighters to get paid. Yeah, well, he's going to get hate no matter what you do. You're going to kill people. And he did it. And then everybody else followed suit. We got the Apex out of it. Yes, we got the Apex at the Apex Center. Tough night for Stipe. Yeah. Cardio wrestling. It'll change who you are for the future. Jon Jones and Stipe.

2:42:41 Yeah. I don't know when it's going to go down. What is 282? Is that December? Yes. You on tour still? But I will be on Kauai. Shout out to them. They're amazing people. the first time in 20 years as a spectator. It was fucking amazing. Who is competing at the Abu Dhabis? He looks older. And destroy them. That's the calligraphy thing. I'll check him out on YouTube all day.

2:46:50 I want to say it's like they're having a – sometime in the winter. fights uh makachev so i can't. I'm going to miss it. Yeah. Where's that? It's fun. And I don't even know how the fuck to watch it. I might have to get, like, do it through a VPN, you know, and pretend I'm somewhere else and then get online through ESPN Plus because I tried it when I was in Italy. It's hard. Yeah. I tried watching ESPN Plus in Italy

2:48:55 Yeah. Regional. Did you watch the, no! want to see the results anyway. I've watched that like three or four times. It's one of those things where even though you know it happened, you still can't believe it when you watch it again. He did. It is. 24 minutes into a fight. Right. That's hard to do. And land it perfect. You powerful fast kick. Yeah. 24 minutes into a fight.

2:50:58 He set it up. Pretty good speech by his corner. John's pretty on it. He's the best. Yeah. You know what I mean? I love him to death thank you express my love in the universe No, but our love could help us figure out a way to coexist with the black hole. I love you and thank you for having me. Bye, everybody. Thank you.