Joe Rogan Experience #1889 — Dr. Phil Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Maybe I will, maybe I won't. Well, it's highlighted on your show. Are we safe? because they're really concerned. And I, I, I just said, I can't take it anymore. I'm going to start talking about the social issues along with everything else. And we've somehow lost that. I think it's been happening gradually. But like everything, you know, it's like if you start

3:54 head went from here to here. I mean, think about it. When you look, go anywhere, go to the mall, go just anywhere there's a group, and what do you Think about that. right you you know you got people friends or staff that you watch what they do and you say, he or she is a go-to person. And you attribute that to them because you watch what they do. then you don't learn that you can smooth out your own bumps.

7:18 It upset them. But it's out of control. Now anywhere from 15% to 30% of students think it's okay to shout down somebody we're 18th in science, we're 37th in math in the world today. Where do we used to be? At any one with these same attitudes and become activists. Well, you hear some professors that venture to say, And, you know, as I say, you're not going to get kids that have a lot of self-confidence,

12:21 a way to turn it around other than some sort of a disaster where Like we are really all in this together. I worry that it has to be something big. Yeah, look, socialism doesn't work. You know, there's every cliche in the world it works great till you run No, no, I'm just wanting equal opportunity. What was the premise of The Little Red Hen? You've got to pitch in if you want to be there when it's time to chow down.

17:46 then they'll never do it in 10 minutes, 9 minutes, 6 minutes, and then where they can actually do it. whatever. I'm totally understanding that you help people, but you give them a hand up, not a hand out. shift, a way of viewing the world with discipline and accountability, that you're not going to just to take him to a shelter, and he's like, no, I don't want to go. And they go, okay, and they just

20:12 Exactly. He might have an animal. OK, look, if he's industrious enough that he's built a house on wheels and they're pirating electrical, some of them from service poles, some of them have Find something that you can build on. You're interfering with all the other people that are following society's rules. The budget goes up every year. The problem doesn't go away.

23:50 Well, in Austin, they moved them into hotels. because there's only about 2000 homeless people. He goes, when you get to the place where LA is, where you're dealing with like 100,000 homeless people, it's almost impossible. He goes, but right life to a place where they're living a meaningful, rewarding life. I mean, how many people struggle with that on a daily basis?

25:49 are not aggressively enough. They're not being pursued aggressively enough. It's just like, What are you going to do to get a job? What are you going to do to get off drugs? What are you That's what most people are doing. Yeah, exactly. They see it on TV. They see it, you know, on some site. You've got to be clean, and you've got to keep your area clean, your room clean, all that.

29:48 They slid down there. And we're not helping this right now in the school system. So that's more than a third of the whole country. You're graduating high school, but you can't read at the most basic level. So what I'm saying, there's a silent epidemic. That was an F, yeah. So now 44 to 64 is a C. So if you can make an average of 30, you get a D, that's passing.

33:52 If you think there's something wrong with the world, throw soup at a painting and glue yourself If people will just take that attitude, we can really change some things that are going on here. afraid of this invisible monster out there. We're going to have to deal with that. And we're going to have to deal with the fact that I say the pandemic was mishandled.

37:07 And when I talk to people about negotiating, which I do a lot, the first thing I always tell people is the first thing you should do is let's talk about what we agree on. We want to be the healthiest country. currencies. You might value different things than I do, so I might be able to give you everything instead of being commonsensical and saying, how do we solve this problem? Yeah, I think very few people are able to argue without attaching themselves to

39:55 and they attach it to being the winner of the argument. You see somebody that says something on Twitter or says something in an interview that is offensive to some group. Now they're canceling each other. character or attack them or say horrible, insulting and threatening things. And you don't feel any They wouldn't say, you rat bastard. Yeah. They support these people in this little tribal group.

43:47 And not one time did they mention that sitting right across from them was the other side. It's an attack. both people talk and you got to figure out who's right and who's wrong. And that's why censorship is it scares people into communicating freely because they're worried that they're going to people say these are offensive to people's sensibilities.

46:50 Yeah, you can't say mom and dad anymore. Yeah. We have a mom and mom, and so it makes my child feel funny if... Yeah. were unsolicited, unwarranted, and unhelpful. It's usually people in the back of the room. brainstorming, you're using your brain. maybe if you're in that situation, and I ask, and blindsided, So that was racial. just even to me that had to do with infrastructure right because i know like in the congo the entire country has the electrical

52:19 You could think of- I think that's where people have sat around and said, what can I be offended about today as opposed to saying, what can I do to contribute to unity? And maybe that's not the right thing to say. I don't know. I mean, I'm not going to get offended about ball jokes or somebody. it makes you better than the people that don't. Yeah. And I just think that's not helping

55:47 20 were from the Republican organization at USC and 20 from the Democratic. And I want you to make eye contact. all that I just left him looking for way past comfortable and then I asked him a couple of questions that they had exchanged about and then without saying anything I had him sit down All of them, every one of them. Now, these are young, fresh people.

58:54 hey, maybe you're obsessing. Maybe you're addicted to this. Maybe take some time, But that's the only way you grow. And it's very hard for people to break out of that. And I used to go there in the summers and work at my grandfather's freight warehouse. All right, now what are you going to do? They're going to resolve one way or the other. And once you get to the side of that road, what's it going to take to get you to go back out on that highway to go over to the other side?

1:02:54 They're not talking to the people on the other side of the highway. And you'll see, psychologically, that's what we got to overcome. They are. Well, the fentanyl epidemic. But now people are doing things they think are fairly innocuous, that 40% of them are laced with lethal levels of fentanyl. and I want people to understand this, You can buy a pill on Snapchat, and I'll show you here.

1:06:53 Bullshit. Okay, here we go. Jamie's Airbook Pro? And the cartel is then turning it into these pills. Perks, GMO, OG, gas, and edibles. That's the type of pill off the top of my head I wouldn't know, but I'm not. It's one of the images I sent. What does that mean? I'm talking about, and the title of the show we did was One Pill Kills, and then broke it in half again so she took a quarter of one pill and they found her dead in the morning because it had so much fentanyl in it that it just killed her.

1:12:18 But here's the deal. So they come back for more and more and more and more. Don't do it. and dump it into the trash and then fill it back up with candy I knew was good and hand it back to Who's the expert? agree there's no new fentanyl threat this Halloween. Many are also skeptical of the DEA's or one quarter of a pill, and three quarters of it was left in her drawer.

1:16:58 Yeah. And that makes it dangerous. fatal doses of fentanyl, lethal doses of fentanyl, because they're so unsophisticated in their today on CNN and it's dangerous I wouldn't No. and so I know it's real. These things seem to escalate. I just don't think they're being acknowledged. They're not there saying, I'm a Democrat, I'm a Republican, I'm left, I'm right.

1:23:15 But it's just not being magnified enough. And he's a brilliant, brilliant scientist. Well, what he's talking about is that because of the educational gap that's been created by the pandemic, read. Lesser jobs are more dangerous jobs because they're more manual labor. Maybe you can help me with this. Because they were saying about Los Angeles, people were criticizing the response

1:28:48 Yeah, well, are people just lying? They were chiming in and they were saying that scores were actually Los Angeles scores were going up. Well, I've certainly not. It's so dangerous, some of the gaslighting that you're seeing. You're looking at a guy who seems to have something really wrong with his brain. And I don't hold that against Fetterman. I mean, the poor guy.

1:32:17 read. And this is not against the guy. I don't know. I don't know anything about this guy. No. I don't know what the rule is. I mean, there's got to be a rule, right? than me. I would think that this would be counter to any rehabilitative treatments that he can have. And I don't know how severe it was. We're talking about a human being. At 80, I hope I'm out fishing or something. Yeah.

1:36:33 What? Well, that's not according to that fucking chart we just looked at. Los Angeles scored below national average on the tests. Boy, that's a fucking Relatively well is hilarious. I don't think anybody would disagree that we have a gap. waited to get out of there so we could go do nothing. But I also remember after three or four weeks, we were kind of bored to death.

1:40:11 but they're getting people in there. Their theory is they're bringing in experts from Yeah. Yeah. where people start pulling their kids out of classes and defunding the school? a target population that's engaging in this sort of activity and they're shifting culture because So they had been on leave like they had been told to not come back? Life quote one of the girls who threw the soup at the the van go the other day they

1:44:55 You could be a she, he, they. Yeah, what is too far? It does because it gives people extraordinary amounts of attention for something very simple. You want to change your name? They're still going to? Like, how do we turn this ship around or right it? that they're wanting to be respected and have their rights protected and to fit into the mainstream and flow with what's going on and to do something like this kind of example. I can't believe that there aren't people on both sides of that issue would say this isn't helping the discourse.

1:49:36 or a PR firm and say, Well, I think there most certainly are. You have to test your thoughts all the time for rationality. That's especially exacerbated by social media, I think. Just look around. We got too many people being quiet so other people can be comfortable. It's certainly not Biden. Yeah, he was very presidential. is going to release their hostages or not is if they believe that you have heard and understood

1:54:28 your chances of ever getting them out of there alive go way, way up. But we're not doing that. and that's something that very few people, want to listen to you because you're being insulting and you're, And we have to teach people to think and talk like that. Then they got to weigh that. And you've got to do it with minimal ego, which is very difficult for people.

1:57:54 with that idea and believe in that idea or you might be educated by someone's little closer together here. And some people are going to listen to it and say, hey, you know, these are two friends talking, It does good for them because it gets them to – you know, there's a lot of people listening, right? What causes these problems? You know where I think people make big mistakes is, and not just us, on anybody.

2:01:45 And somebody will say, about trying to find answers here in Austin. And they pick one sentence they said and just tear And I understand that. And there are some people that absolutely are not that way. because I'm going to want to know what the science is. educational system in particular was mishandled by everybody and if you're saying that la did a

2:05:17 You were talking about the decline in scores over the past decade or so already. And it was, I felt bad for her her I felt bad for the kids that are there because Right. when you're making them sit in the classroom. And we know it doesn't work. that we did it right, moving out of the states, in terms of businesses closing. There's definitely states that handle

2:09:15 Is there any articles that say that there's a state or a city that did it better than anybody else? But as I'm reading it, I see that it says eighth grade scores fell. school average of 235 and an average of 225 in fourth grade reading above the national average in the fall of 2020 was enthusiastically received by families at the time. That's where I gave you those numbers before. She said literacy data and impact on national economy, that's where the number came

2:12:17 What is it in other countries? And then the pandemic just blocked them even further. The kids are getting more and more into the Internet, and it's kind of taken over life. And they're so connected to social media. hey i came back from that it's okay i was able to get through it it's a part of the development And the answer to that question, how do you know if your kid's getting bullied,

2:15:33 they're not competent anymore. They get clingy, whiny, lots of stomach aches, don't want to go She killed herself on day five. But kids don't feel that. Don't do it. screenshotted those and kept them and sent them to the parents But those girls came forward and said, here's what happened. sort of ostracized her and i mean she was 10 at the time and i think she's kind of come around

2:20:31 You know, I said a few minutes ago, I take pride in the fact that I'm willing to learn. It's all I'm watching all this right now. Ask yourself, and people should vote. by pit bulls or something, where's the dog catcher? Why are these pit bulls? If you've They just don't want you to check before you vote. I think so many people are so committed to their party, so committed to their ideology,

2:24:03 Of course it does. pay attention all the way down the ballot. Because you have this show that's based around having discussions, common sense, and sort of getting to the bottom of They tried to get some help and they went and sat for five hours in the hospital, waited, What, are you going to just go on the Internet and look up mental health and find a psychologist or whatever?

2:27:28 But yeah, sometimes I really get frustrated because it kind of goes in one ear and out internet bullying, things like that. There are different challenges, and that's revitalized me. We can fix this. And I don't care what people say. I'm bringing both sides of these issues, It certainly has an impact. interview you know be it a big case people would say why are you at counsel

2:30:41 I think we're the longest running show on Paramount lot. Wow. Is that one of those words they put up, secretary? Yes, I think so. It makes it a lot better. Information access. They're smart. And he's throwing it up over here. There's more power in this laptop than they had for the moonshot. This chip transmits an Internet's worth of data every second.

2:35:30 and how long do you think it would be? And at 60 years there'd be four feet of water. we won't even recognize the world. Now they're in the chat rooms or're really you know they call those anymore Now he's got that. I didn't know if he was saying, I'm going to throw the kitchen sink at you or let that sink in. It doesn't look like a kitchen sink. Just what a funny gimmick.

2:39:53 and he said, if you want to lose a boner real quick. I would hope he does something constructive with it. Well, hopefully to encourage people to do what we're talking about here and actually communicate and exchange ideas and not just insult each other and keyboard bully. And I remember I was born and raised a Baptist, and then I switched later in life to a different religion.

2:41:33 something happens to really get our attention to remind us that we are all Americans. You're reasonable. That's a great attitude. Yeah. And I find it very disappointing when someone doesn't think that way, I'll go talk to them. We'd do a half hour on his show and a half hour on my show. He better be. Yeah, I'm going to keep swinging. Bye, everybody.