Joe Rogan Experience #1898 — Neal Brennan Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! that's the bad trip yeah they say like surrender and i've had and I want to punch myself in the other side of the face. I heard it's great. Sorry, guys. But this one was like, you got to fuck him if you're having a hard time. It's the documentary's called Holy Hell. Yeah. Part of the group or not? It just feels like order it just feels like order if

3:56 That's what people like about Obama. And he said he used to practice it. Yeah. Yeah, but I've seen other interviews where he talked about- they couldn't be more blue blood yeah his dad george bush senior was head of the cia yeah yeah Absolutely. Yeah, he made himself go viral and he appealed to people that were not It's like a siren song where people are like, what's that?

7:20 How? And the turtle's just riding the top of a python. Couldn't watch. I do. Menti Soy Misto. I mean, it must happen constantly. a if you're not a paid customer it's okay and then the homeless people went great yep say no more Well, they fired so many of them because they wouldn't get vaccinated. We're in here every day. I don't know what the better solution would have been.

12:03 That's a lot of people. it was just and especially overweight plurality of people, almost half, I mean, you know what I mean, Like, when there was no vaccine and the medications were confusing, And then you have the emergency use exemption, which the only way you get that emergency use exemption is if there is no treatment that's available that works.

14:21 like, that's an unforeseen consequence. turns out they were right. And the economy there didn't suffer. In fact, real estate went through Disastrous results. And then all of a sudden the government comes along and says, you have to shut this business down. If you do, you'll be arrested. whether they're 80 and fat or whether they're 20 and fit, Yeah, but you don't have to impose restrictions.

17:31 and they're allowed to eat, they're going to fucking spread it. You know, if you have the option to be on a ranch, if you've got a ranch in Texas and you've got all your food out there and water and you can just fucking stay by yourself for two years, yeah, you'll be okay. Yeah. you start clicking links you're like that seems inconclusive or Oh, Jesus.

20:00 I would also argue that there's that and then equal parts. If you can find another way to make a living, you're like, this is a thankless, shitty place to work. I was talking to your guys about this before we started rolling. Yeah. Do you handle stress? Well pretty good at stress. Yeah The only thing, I'm excited because it's cool and I want to do a good job.

22:41 Now, if I just had to do it for the first time, But if it was the first time I ever went on stage and I had to go on stage in front of all those people, I'd probably shit my pants. But if I had like an injury and I had to take like six months off and then I had a fight You've been killing a long time. can tell that you're in your essence yeah um but it's also they get you know how to be loose and

25:27 Mark. I think Jim Jeffries did it. outdoor shows are already a little weird going to go to places where you can do comedy but that was like no vaccine then no no real And then I didn't do any standup again until like, and we had protocols in place Great. He's like, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're going to keep doing this. Like I had to listen to recordings all day.

28:05 Like if I had to just do, like if I already released a special and then COVID came along I filmed in August. Got it in the can. Hear you. It's there seems to be no Way bigger than any response he would have ever gotten if it was on Netflix. Great. And then the Kobe thing happened. And I was like, dude, why? time goes on the more you can sort of sit with a subject that's very personal to you and then you

31:07 Sometimes they're primed but i would say the first joke worked 80 of the time but sometimes you'd be like okay like you'd A guy comes up and takes a photo, stands by the stage and takes a photo. Oh, really? And then there's a guy that's like, come on, applaud, applaud. Like I didn't get enough. That really must have pissed you off. who's fucking excellent and has a show called In and of Itself on Hulu

34:11 Oh boy. I swear to God. Rock thought it was racism. 30% They go, I have a better idea. What happened in atlanta in atlanta the guy uh And then I go, what? about my dad dying and the audience and i literally had the thought How loud is it? Kind of by hand. Again, maybe it's just my luck. Like, why did you decide to do a special that's not it's stand-up but it's not

39:26 It was kind of like, oh, that guy's kind of funny. You're doing these seven-minute chunks. where do you want us to put the commercial. But are the Shonda Rhimes and some of the people Like their stock crashed. And to pretend that it was transphobic was fucking nonsense. Joe I would binge that and then I'd binge it again Cuz if you're an adult you're just watching

42:50 Dude. Spoke to you. Yeah, that's the, you know, when somebody dies, you just go, ah, it's fentanyl. If you become famous when you are a young kid, I'm gonna went to school Yeah. I think there's a new law that protects kids, you just are in a good situation. You're all like, Cause it's real drag.. That's a real drag, that family stuff. It's a real drag.

46:49 for something they want to do in the future. Some people like it when everybody is looking like, looking for something from them. What do you need? Because if they think you're being a cunt, they're never going to tell you if they want something from you. and we're having this conversation i go dude this is really bumming me out because you're killing it at life right now like you should be

48:51 And they're mad. work because you can only pretend for you know what i mean like yeah it's just like you just You just can't keep faking it. He's a very smart guy. Like, can't just fuck around, you know? that's the beauty about being a comic right like you're kind of expected to be at least slightly Why does he have to pretend? Tell you how I like my balls treated.

53:24 Are you just like, all right, I'll make a video? It's like you can't take in all that. And they start taking it in and considering it and wanting to argue it i never said it that way that's not what i meant yeah these motherfuckers and then it Was it healthy? I tell myself. But also the obviously goes without saying took it off my phone again what but and then i think about the the i i could feel the like uh like

57:25 And just shit like that. And you must at a certain point go, I have to make a very firm decision about this. Literally don't send me. I don't send me i don't want to read it people are entitled to their opinion and they And I think that resets my day every time. You reset your hierarchy of needs. It's not a good time to interview people. not doing that anymore or you said i won't do it and then i fucked up and did it with uh daniel

1:01:17 went away yeah and then they come back yeah and it's and they're in an arena for some reason yeah Is a kick to the head worse than a punch to the head? Yeah, where you're fucking exhausted and you want to just breathe and get your body back to like a reg but and you still have the physical thing where you're wringing out the stress which i think is very real it makes you

1:03:39 That's fucking hard. Yeah, when you're It's easy. But you also gotta do difficult shit. Yeah, you're getting like mental, like if you're doing like endurance work on a bike, like doing sprints on one of those air dive machines, you are not capable of thinking of anything else. was a pretty quick knot that fucking slow down was not i think they fuck with the clocks a little

1:06:10 a lot of the things they were saying were misinformation. That's a shit word. It's a with this. So it was very strange to experience that because I could tell that this was not- You be yourself. It's trolling. It's a silly way to live your life. We are unlikely animal friends. Yeah, it's okay, but you just go, okay. But I also represent being nice. I think it's important to be nice.

1:09:20 confident in yourself, Well, that's what I'm saying. It's a normal sort of psychological roller coaster you put yourself on where you start fights over nothing just so you can make up because the making up is so intense. But once you're pleading your case, it's like, what am I? unlike, it's real And you're like, fucking, all right i'll fucking do it

1:11:53 But I've also. But it's very manageable. Says that if you live together Wow. Yeah. five years in you're like i'm getting a little itchy yeah this is dangerous yeah uh so so so It's happened to me. them and you fuck them it's like a very high level of prostitution yeah that Look at that. I wouldn't trust, I wouldn't trust them. decrepit man and this bomb ass

1:15:52 it was so fucking funny that's a great keep the change uh but i don't that's again i don't even on you and they can justify it in their own heads because like you made me wait and i did it i would rub your feet Good for her. 70. thing why does why does she have to defend the 40 year age gap who gives a fuck he's a grown Do I have power? Yeah. Yeah.

1:18:59 Yeah. If you're selling like waste baskets, like are you fucking passionate about waste baskets are you just trying to make There aren't. I like your joke about your daughters, like, slowly stealing your manhood. Manipulative traits. Like, dude, really? They're little right? And then all of a sudden they're talking. And that experience, like if you don't, if you're not there and see that experience, like watching a human being go from being a baby to being a young teenager, I don't think you're

1:23:24 and we're worried about ourselves right now, that human beings go through It's, where are you on nature nurture? if they do something fucked up like if they break into your liquor cabinet and steal all your booze And I think one of the most important things is having conversations with them like they're regular people. very surreal it's very surreal and i started thinking of all people as babies i've been

1:27:09 It's not like they're trying to get you to hoot and holler at them. That don't fit, don't work. You have these ridiculous stilts on. Worth it. alright so I want to get back to the spot if I think real quick so what do misinformation but how much do you actually know about the subject and that's why i wanted to say telling you is not true and what they're telling you about this being misinformation if you have

1:30:24 like scientists Trying to cock block it. things where i don't care where it's from and it just becomes an argument about like oh and Fauci is, like, sticking to this very narrow definition It's just a thing that people do in science well they they give money to different labs for different research And where are those cures? Yeah. Y'all should stop.

1:34:19 You know, something that was naturally designed to become more infectious so they could study how those things work. for lack of a better term think about all the different subjects whether it's uh pop culture or fucking entertainment or technology I'm like, I don't know. And he said you're literally going to You and I can afford longevity shit. That's interesting.

1:37:46 Like, you look at the AI art. Why? There's a joke-based AI? really nice creation uh but it's not even it's it's like to say it's wrong it's not even, it's like to say it's not, you can't have it competing against humans. there were so many people that were saying, and it's not weird by in any world that's the funny how insidious it is where it's not

1:40:22 Forget it. this kind of, if you ask most humans, is earth on the right track, they'd be like, nah, I I think everyone's going to adopt it That was like an episode of the dark mirror there's a hundred million cameras in china we're watching you through your eyes well that's where we doing howard zinn's history of america Are we doing the textbooks history of America? We're doing critical race theory

1:43:54 I think it would... Yeah. Robot president would have done the calculations and said this is not going to end well like look we've we've actually thought in taking just land willy-nilly. Do you have yellow you have nuclear you have nukes and all that stuff and I don't think I don't but I don't buy the fact that NATO was going to invade Russia contradictory information here do you know what i mean? Like there's, even you and I discuss

1:47:20 I can see all the scenarios. I know people who did. Not a lot of fun. Are there a few AIs? How do you ensure that? fucking pain what an everybody is freaking out what a hair suit that is to put on apparently But whether or not you can do that at scale and not have any content moderation at all, And then what are the consequences of the advertisers?

1:50:45 except no impressions of me. And then they're writing I thought comedy was legal, buddy. Somebody else, he would have just been like, Exactly. I think he lives in an extreme world. manic to bipolar people don't like taking the medication because it takes yeah. on medication, it's great excellent that same personality that makes music to just powerful bang bang bang

1:55:02 Mm-hmm. It's just you don't even have to have a billion you could have 10 million people are gonna be straight with you no you're That's the craziest thing ever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Consider it. They want him to talk to different leaders. The video's for sale on Amazon. I mean, I was doing a joke about it. has any expectations and the other thing is jeff bezos goes do you want the moisturizer in 40

1:58:17 Jeff Bezos is just a guy who owns a company, But what I am saying is it's pretty wild that that video is for sale and he's in trouble. I don't even know what it is. It's their movie. well it wasn't actually seven it's more like three. It's the Cosby argument. What do you think? celebrities at their worst CD talking about like how many they've sold and then they made a movie of the book.

2:02:29 how many views it's getting? So it's like a percentage thing like Apple Store? And then a couple years later, he was like, you know, I've had a change have some mechanism? and we have to let the chips fall where they may. and it, a bunch of people went to some location and were slaughtered. Another shared a false story about the rape of a Buddhist woman by a Muslim man.

2:05:42 and there's people that use them to manipulate you with businesses. Freedom's messy. You could do that to try to make people aware of a situation, I know who he is if you're a part of some Like people thought that the number on Twitter could be as low as 5% or some crazy people think it might be as high as 80% Yeah. You could do a lot of stuff with that money yeah but what i'm saying is king joe what do you do how do you like what do you do

2:09:30 Yeah, but I think that or Alex does, you know, Alex says that they're crisis actors in Connecticut. They're talking about malinformation now, which is really wild. seven years and then take it to the cleaners yeah well that's but that's the in until that happens Yeah. Whether or not people can handle it. They're telling you what they really feel. They don't distribute propaganda.

2:13:00 There's studies, if you want to look, you can find a study that says this. Like you see it over and over again the way they're like that famous speech where rachel maddow is saying it's not not true at all but i i it's certainly biased how would you argue that it is true in any Like, I don't think she's lying. lying but someone had to tell her something that's absolutely not true.

2:15:41 I know. I think it's valuable, but I get the... sources in the world total agreement and they still do it they still do it because it's part Thank you. There's no benefit in it. reviewed studies, all of it, all the data, all the things he was saying, he's reporting on things in Why is this this seems to be available like this should be on NBC? There's a bomb went off over there there it is I see it on TV

2:19:32 But that's the world paternalistic or it feels like people don't want to be guided, like you said. punching people in the face. I have a feeling people would have found a reason to start those And you could blame it on a religion I know the same about Jews. I know the same don't think it's a structure and i think that's what woke ism is i think i yeah and i also think

2:22:36 And also a lot of the stuff that Glenn Greenwald says is absolutely factually correct. Say no more. Oh, that's so funny. Oh, my God. Yeah, former national security advisor. You didn't like the narration of the way the guy's telling his story? Oh my God. They found the guy who they assume is the first guy, The dad is the guy to the left. They're fucking characters

2:25:11 Yeah. A human actor. And what is this guy's name? nothing right and this guy's just trying to tell people to go inside and no charges yeah again conspiracy on conspiracy on a conspiracy but imagine that Yeah. Why do you have gates if someone could just open the gate and a cop opens the gate? So do you think they opened the gate because people were going to go through the gate no matter what,

2:27:57 one conspiracy They stole the vote. I mean, the guy said the last election, the 2020, And he's probably handling ballots. I've never been compelled to think that election was rigged. Then they should have gotten they got results where it favored the client that this this one not on the internet we disconnect them from the internet it's all paper and then they're counted onto a computer that's not connected to anything or not even a computer a hard drive or whatever

2:31:31 Only to fools. That was all about the Republicans hacking the vote because that was – I believe that company was a large contributor to the campaign. president like god damn there's so many fucking factors and so many influences. What about people that are here illegally and vote because they feel like that's the trade-off You're a big part of it. of buying into a narrative and as soon as i'm asked to do that but that's a thing that didn't

2:34:52 And they're sending human bodies over there to just to go and die. The problem is it can't be involved in the dissemination of information. to ignore this. It's a new disease and an animal attack and a lady got ate by a crocodile. And you're just never he's crazy or someone paid Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I mean, there's some things that are just lock solid, absolute and real. It's always odd to me. Like, you should question pretty much everything.

2:37:42 Yes. Yeah. gonna win yeah but cuz they didn't think he wasn't going to win. I don't know how a guy like Joel Osteen is it's Kahoot's stability used to refer to God as They sued. He published more works of fiction. they charge for classes i don't know they they kind of make you people and you have to tithe 10 and have kids and don't use birth control. I'm like, that's pretty significant.

2:41:13 Yeah. I was an atheist. what the purpose is my that's my experience i don't i didn's comprehensible what the purpose is. Just power. yeah recovered i feel like there's some sort of trend in life and in the cosmos of things getting more complex. Until you reach like literally like a godlike being where yeah, yeah, that's the thing if there was a rapture or whatever

2:44:49 Well, if you think of amoebas, if you think of single-celled organisms, they eventually become To us, it's like, what are you talking about? Maybe that's what it's made out of. all of that is just trying to get us to that ultimate stage where we're going to be. I mean, that's, I would, it, my, especially my, my 5MEO experience was about having no sense of order whatsoever.

2:48:11 connection that we have now and the the awareness that we have to our the all the potential dangers it we grew up I know internet yeah like regular like animal people there are giant companies that have massive amounts of control over discourse and they can decide what It's stability. Yeah, it's like, it's noble lying, Yeah. Yes. But if you want to, if you verify it, like say if your Twitter account is Neil Brennan and it's tied to your passport and it's tied to your social security number and you can't use another one.

2:52:19 it's not real yeah and that's the that that's the thing even with free speech. We have to work things through and figure things out. Because I wanted to tell that story about how I quit my job as a security guard because of a Neil Young concert. And they should also get vaccinated. It helped them. I'm sure it helped them. And then when they got COVID, I had them

2:54:21 We had a climate guy in yesterday that says, yes, the climate's bad, but there's a lot of things that are worse. And, you know, everyone's kind of overreacting to this. We're being very myopic in our viewpoint. And we really need to look at this in terms of like there's a lot of problems that we could create a lot less death and a lot less suffering in the world. We focused on them. And there's also solutions that are being implemented that they think is going to

2:55:17 You don't have a time I know not of resources and like do my own read and then you have, How do you have the fucking time? You're so silly that you're there. They're not going to get in trouble They were. It's like it's not there wasn't an inter inter action. It was no yeah, that's not a peaceful protest So what the fuck is going to stop you from, how are you going to protect yourself from

2:58:03 We're going in. It's not even a real crime. We know it's another podcast. This guy's in jail forever, right? Yeah. And then they swapped his bomb out for a fake one and then you know it's his plan The cost of freedom that's what I'm saying. It's like that's... You can't govern... to decide what's real and what's not real If the government had full control and they could just tweet whatever they wanted to and

3:00:46 And next thing you know, everything is tied into this And that's why you can't give them access to information We're better at seeing bullshit, I think, overall. Yeah. And then once Dunbar's number. We're fucked. have we'll respect the earth we'll respect the but it's just you just need in order for all this shit but i guess that's part of their job i guess you would say part of their job is to

3:03:59 Jimmy Dore loves it, though. Metzger's one of the greats. not full of shit he's not a liar and you trust him he might be wrong you might disagree with him that are still in a lot of these big publications. that people have been doing forever. I can. But if you could do it, if you could be King Neil. but at a certain point, he used to say like, This is a bit of a responsibility and I need fact checkers.

3:06:43 That's not true. you know what I mean like we know him he's a good man sort of human jury right it's just a matter of what are the qualifications right and who gets to be on it and you know who appoints them and how long they last yes like the supreme I don't... And whenever people form these boards, I think they try to form one at Facebook, and I remember

3:08:22 let it get messy let it get messy and figure it out over time I think toward the end of our lives, If you look at like border, like migration, it's just going to be so much migration. it's too hot yeah yeah or it's flooded yeah all there's a lot of problems and this guy uh and that we could fix that. Malaria kills. that we should be concentrating on as well.

3:10:55 to protect them from environmental situations That's what he's saying. the economy improves radically, you have way less deaths. You have way less deaths from disease, Well, no one's saying it's easy. as well that's what he's saying he's not saying at all that climate change isn't a problem yeah give a fuck about the future or the other people that I deal with the

3:13:57 It's a shame. No. And so that you know what next time we catch a boat that's doing that, Well, they've destroyed the waters over there. That's not what it was. and try to help those people, you'd have way less of that. kind of pick one. It was about an hour of thinking. There's some fun. Yeah. And super heavy. And I talk about mental health stuff and people like when I talk about it.

3:17:08 an hour okay like seeing your sets. Neil Brennan, Bye.