Joe Rogan Experience #1903 — Kurt Metzger Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. That's wrong. That's like with high school kids. places you forget that it's not legal still wait it was legal in California it has no medical benefits, which is hilarious, because I'm pretty sure cocaine is Schedule It was like this medical grade. I tried to go to dinner afterwards and was like, God, I don't want to eat anything that I thought was really interested about it fucking killed my appetite like I tried to go to

2:31 I think he gave me a heavy dose, too, because he had to clean out my nose and fix my septum. Yeah, it's like these bumps in the middle my nose is fucked and so hit or just oh well from everything I think it was pretty fucked up from then on. but if you get hit there enough, He looked like somebody just spread his nose like butter onto his. I love him so much. He's such a good, he's like, when you're around him, you just want to hug him not that long ago. He's the best

4:28 they were just as good because it was pretty awesome He was on the ball, on the ball. They lose that wildness. He was always a great, great comic. because remember in somniac he would get hammered in every town it's fucking great it was like because if you're sober dealing with that, I didn't drink for like five years, You're not at the same speed.

6:44 It's so dumb. It's so dumb. But while it's so dumb it's so dumb but while it's happening it's so fun That's hilarious. No. the whole podcast but Jake called me and told me He's like, you really should have Dave Smith on, because he really talks about this stuff. Jesus. He told her like Dave is the closest thing I have to a brother about Dave Smith.

9:08 I say Dave. So it's on mute for the podcast. be a perfect fit yeah yeah by the way you're hilarious on Jimmy it's very fun it's very fun That's a real thing. I think I couldn't watch through a fucking filter Now, I didn't get tricked. like i could get my hands on them the blue ones oh so i started taking those so i wasn't one of ooh, the pain somehow broke through.

11:51 When we were kids, okay, like in high school, for example, the numbers back then of people who actually did Wow. I spent doing martial arts. every day he's very functional i'm like that's nuts i'm like how many. He goes, but he needs it. He's got to get it every day. But if he gets it every day, he's very functional. It's another one. He got hooked on pills.

14:16 He got elbowed in the process of doing that. Like, months after the surgery, he's still taking them. Benzos, you could die. Right, but what I'm saying is like if you went like straight, like you were fucked up and you went straight to a rehab center rehab center yeah like would they wean you off of it or would they give you suboxone they give you He took some Suboxone after he had done, you know, Oxy or something.

16:19 yes when we were uh keep you on it forever by by the way, if you want. Yeah. That was the thing when we were playing pool back in the 90s that my friend Johnny B used And they'd just be like slack-jawed, knocking balls around. Yeah. methadone is worse? The withdrawal from suboxone i was down i did i was weaned down to the tiniest bit of it because i was really like and even the

17:58 What exactly is methadone? We had a guy on a long time ago Keeping you, well, for like heroin? But is this the case with everybody? how long would you feel like shit for well be a week a month that okay so that's probably a week For you, it was like cognitive decline, dull feelings. Dude, I say it all the time. That's what it is. I think I probably

20:56 the northeast I think you can get Yeah, I wonder why you can get it from the sun. And it's a mood stabilizer too It's a game changer. It's just normal. You're like stir crazy. Yeah. it's like oil that's at the bottom of your engine tray just sitting there yeah it's not getting cranked over it's not getting used Because they kind of do. because i'm not i'm not going for like glory or something but i would injure myself because i

24:17 works better the problem is it's just connected to so much douchery and then it's also hard to do That you're just like I've never had anybody like screaming But is it like an upscale gym or is it like a fucking gold gym type situation? They're going to find you and try to suck your dick. like have anybody even talking to me while i'm doing it right well there's something to that

26:27 table and he goes okay so what are your fitness goals my goal is never to listen to your upsells Fortunately, no. Oh, little air things? I remember that for VCRs too, right? The markup's like 200%. cleaner so it would create like this thing where it was like just fraud in every store because you Everything is like you got to hit these numbers and everybody just, you know, do whatever

28:59 What would you do if nobody sped ever? What? It's like. Oh yeah, right. Got ourselves a nice TV, boys. We're fine. Seizure. Asset seizure or something? Asset seizure. Yeah, right. There's a ton of them. Wait, what's it called? There's a term for it. I don't know. We're finding out. We have 60 grand. Isn't that hilarious? in california from ex uh it's from ex-police officers yeah so i don't because any job they're going to judge you

31:52 Because, you know, there's always a rule. And yet somehow, they still sold a lot of fucking drugs. Yeah, we don't do it. No. And he called it out in a courtroom. I was going to say. You ever see that movie? Dependence on fossil fuels. someone would have to understand, Experience as an investigative journalist, There will be nothing like we have ever seen before.

35:34 when oil prices spike and nobody can afford to buy that oil and everything will just shut down You have to believe, not hope, not pray that there's a way out of it and you're going to find it. Today, they'd be like, while it eerily sounds accurate, as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, Obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you. Wait a minute.

38:34 I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted or will you tell the American people the truth? Like a boss. Listen to this. or office of one of your Congress persons Wait a minute. If this information turns up wrongdoing, I thought you did not want to be here, We have been looking for a couple of days for you.

42:12 Please, please keep the noise down so that we can hear and we can get answers. I think that's really who he is. Well, back then there was no internet. he's the guy who was in charge of selling the drugs in South Central that was funding the Contras versus the Sandinistas Imagine if you found out that You don't know. Yeah, I know that. Look at his fucking house.

45:28 Apparently, this is the rumor. I don't know if that's real. of labs we passed through before entered a section nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage of and he couldn't eat or sleep for weeks. so that article was where this story first came out? oops, fucking pop-ups. After a few drinks, the once-in-a-lifetime adventure with Nixon. Okay, of course, because this is the blog of Skeptoid and not believe everything.

48:43 Why do they say that? Aha. with the AFL-CIO. He spent less than 40 minutes speaking and glad-handing with guests Where the story really starts to fall apart What did turn up, however, So it seems like there was no Esquire article, so that's bullshit. his ex-wife wanted to sell a book yeah you could also for sure imagine that jackie But I gotta take a shit so he would sit there with his fucking pants down take a shit in front of them

52:36 to like, like, I can't remember. He was working there and I couldn't believe I could actually see him I would And he was still partying hard. They introduced the world to Bill Hicks, Dice Play, Sam Kinison, I think he was already really popular by then. Those are like 86-ish. To go see him. Yeah, you know. That's how I found out about so many Yeah. He told me a story.

55:16 And I think Richard Pryor Jr. has told this on a podcast. Imagine thinking you can get it through DNA. So this is someone telling the story. Yeah, that is a possibility. People who work there for sure remember him It really is uh, cuz I you know that guy we just watched on C-SPAN, You're working with Jimmy Dore now, and because you're working with Jimmy Dore, Jimmy's constantly

58:03 It's the regular... he's had on this is why i like about him is all these people he's had on if they don't do the Like you go over facts and details Marinate into Clevers because they don't come out. is lost. Everything's Well, there's people that that's all they do. and also you know when the rise of these independent things like jimmy show and uh

1:01:25 The guys that I just mentioned? Like in 2018, they were constantly reporting on like Ukraine's got a Nazi problem. of Jon Stewart Yeah, that's one of the ones Hold on, explain that. I don't know how there's time to go to Disney World, but Jon Stewart hangs a medal on his neck, and he's got a red. Oh, there he is in the... All the regular news reported this up until abruptly.

1:03:15 I mean, holy shit. When a narrative shifts like that and you don't say what Russia is doing is absolutely horrific. i've heard this line three times like yeah it's corrupt but they're trying i've heard that over That's where it gets crazy. Wasn't she something along those lines? If you just pay a bunch of money to the media, which is what he did, they'll just write things about how great you are.

1:05:42 Because that's how you get people to look at it and whatever. So you can bribe these companies to do puff pieces or hip pieces. That's all they do because that's with them That's how you get people to look at it and whatever so you can bribe these companies to do puff pieces Dude, there's a video of him on Shark Tank tearing apart some guy who brought a Ponzi

1:06:30 Every single thing that you would see. See if you can find out what her post There's another thing that he was taking in a transdermal patch. That guy knows all the chemical. I thought he was a chemist. carrying his mind around what the effects he said it does where it makes you enjoy doing boring work or something? You can't just go off it right transdermal. Yeah, not not the part of the camp. Yeah

1:09:25 that he is, bro. contagion is billions owed to creditors. high quality information on a regular basis in a highly entertaining format. Highly recommend It's worth watching. That other guy, the top guy of Google? how money works and he said like this is what you guys got to do oh and they're like go fuck Pathological gambling and hypersexuality. Yeah, it's that fearlessness.

1:11:59 Reequip is a Parkinson's drug that got pulled from the market. It could be Reequip. like finding people on ads and just fucking them and they fuck him and wild shit like couldn't Well, if you feel a sudden urge that there were other cases that were similar i just heard this must have happened if they're You know, that's the correlation, not caus, that people make with psych drugs and shooters.

1:14:08 They go. when they say so the the statement used to be that there was like a measurable chemical imbalance Yeah. So psychiatry gave up on the chemical imbalance theory a long time ago, they're saying. and depression. Because all they're saying is, chemical imbalance making it seem very much like that's the thing. That it was heavily pushed by drug companies?

1:18:04 This idea, the authors point out, was heavily pushed by drug companies aiming to sell serotonin selective reuptake inhibitor compound. You just remember, oh, that's what causes it. Yeah. the kids using what is he using parkinson medicine to steal your money back? You know what that is? thing like why would people go there and i'm like because other people were there yes but it's also

1:20:16 like it's a greeting card Hooked up like that's a thing of They give you free trips. I wasn't getting the whatever primo Emmy thing, but I got that Oh, inside. You were the best at Haskett? Wow. Wow Dude Dave Foley in the moment With the Yeah, they had a whole thing That's better than a They funneled off like $10 billion into that. Yeah. You go ahead and pick out a gender, honey.

1:24:49 they're resistant and she's and this is like really screwing up their narrative And I was like, oh oh is that what that it? I like like a carbon, like your personal carbon. Because they're all really, really kid gloves with this FDX kid. he used to be a hated guy well Well, he still is by some. so I remember Common Core came out and I would just hear everybody

1:27:14 yeah soon I don't know. Wait. CEO of BlackRock. There's probably some bad people that lost millions. All these people know. Like Van Jones, especially, you know that guy knows the deal yeah you can you imagine all these people know like You meet these people, and they're all like, He didn't give a speech with a tie on. I wanna know for which movie.

1:29:02 They're like, oh, that's for you at home to go, oh. Did you see the thing? You know? When you win, bring it back to Malibu. It's amazing. i don't know 20 years some people don't and some people don't know what to think i'm in the don't, and some people don't know what to think. I'm in the don't know what to think category. And why is there – well, I don't know.

1:31:04 Yeah. That's the thing. that it matters if I believe in it or not, you know? And there's like these narratives. That's clear. They're just cut and pasting into all these different fake accounts. Yeah, he learned some shit. I'll bet they were really valuable. Talk to people about openly like stopping people's tweets from getting out, shadow banning with that like as a little like wouldn't it be a great way like to just ban and

1:34:59 Well, all these people are freaking out because Elon is opening the gates to everybody to come back. like an animal coming out of another animals ass like something along those But the point That doesn't excuse it, right? and um and i and that when i you think of the amount of things that were right but he said them Like he'll say shit and you're like, what?

1:37:51 I was looking up for something else for a joke for the show. And that was the birth of being hesitant about vaccines. Today. What does the cult want? There was some with the water supply. I think it was something that Jimmy talked about. So there's a polio virus 2. No, the oral one was the one that the AP was talking about with kids. It's AP news. one in the hospital because an unvaccinated person

1:41:05 one has to die and like uh why are there not enough beds if you know a pandemic is coming It wasn't a thing exposing it. In 2018. in that town and it was all the sheriff had to call yeah and rolling stone ran it yeah by the And you can even see on his face. they couldn't really have democracy, like, culturally. They're not in the UN? big sticking point yeah i if you watch it we play all the clips of it i mean that was what dave

1:44:32 that's what I'm watching. It's really like the Obama years were great for me. And then now you realize the left and right is like if you're left, America left, you're for like advanced robot killing. It's collateral survivors at that point. the mountains. They assume it's like I have wanted to get out of going to a wedding really bad. That's a good what cop logic's a good uh yeah that's what they sounded like killing guys bad

1:46:52 kind of a la Lockie? do that there what do you what do you think they'll do to you at home not give you the same You know how you never- You know, taking your shoes off at the airport, that's a good- There's one fucking guy. out of them hey just take a peek at His look in his eyes, like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. And then when he tried to activate the fake bomb, they arrested him.

1:50:23 That was the big argument. I guess how entrapment works noticed something wrong and called both their local police and the fbi and they didn't somehow No. And you could tell he was slow. And they probably just talked him into it. Everything sounds like that to me. because it was in your nature to do it. Was he a federal informant? for his application to become a U.S. citizen.

1:53:50 Oh, We base this information from our clients. Is that what I'm... Did you see as a boxer This is just a long article. So that's why I was trying to read this. someone very similar they tried to find a nuclear specialist and get him to do a bomb and this long I wasn't aware of that. Yeah, man sounds like a good idea sounds like a plan Yeah. It turned out to not be that at all

1:57:48 so it was nothing but people will will go along with something if you skip me i mean right you He feels very strongly anti-Trump in a way that, you know, what do they call it? and you got a spy on everybody's phone that one time. I don't think there's help coming either. Yeah. Automatically, yeah. What could the reason be? Is it something good? at another whatever 65 years, something like that? Like automatically.

2:00:21 Go. black... You're allowed to redact. Well, think about Sam Bankman Freed. Dude, the same people that made, what's the movie about, you know, Steve Carell's in it and Batman's in it? Yeah. Yeah, right. because otherwise they're going to leave It was like a tech company, but their tech was selling office space or renting office bait, which is not tech and

2:02:53 That's like Viking shit. dreadlocks Wow look at them look how cool that looks holy shit they're It's such a fucking psychedelic sound. I mean, can I tell you what I appreciate? My buddy Adam Greentree works with a lot of Aboriginal people. Oh, no shit. They gave him poison. Oh, yeah, really? It's a really bad was about a lot of that no I never saw that

2:06:10 Well, that's a Canada. that's crazy isn't that funny like clearly Did you see that Dune movie where they? Yeah. Way back in the Disney. It's just happening. all times to that movie that you showed that collapse movie which i remember when that came you can get people to ignore the existence because he wants to get to something. then what he gets to is okay i know do you think this

2:10:15 I would love to know because first of all there's no way he doesn't know by now that that metal he put on the guy The thing where he's like, They know people. not like the meaner older brother with his yeah look at him there yeah no i mean he does look Kerry Clark Jr. Wow. They got full page- I'll bet you sell a bunch of copies of Rolling Stone No, he's alive right now.

2:13:29 And she doesn't totally know the words, so she Googled it and got the fucking lyrics on her phone. It was like a midnight on a Tuesday in downtown LA and was fucking amazing. That's Gary Clark Jr., motherfucker. She doesn't know them. and it was with Artie Lang. the real after party or something was what it was there's like a real one. I had a chance to see Prince once live at the foundation room

2:16:37 Really? for a minute. Not Jehovah Witness, though. No, that's Whoa. uh also right before that know, that's how like Louis was emailing I get a call from my manager Like Chris, well, I guess thinking is you're right first of all, this is the worst gig ever being a funny comedian at the Oscars And I would have been, because I don't like to have to deal, like until it hit him, I

2:19:52 I don't think he hit him hard. he's feeling it right now his adrenaline spiked he's like what the fuck keep my wife's name out like Bring the Pain, like that level. their trans co-stars? I think they wanted him is not Jill Soloway now. you know it'll stab you if you I've been saying that. This was not as big a controversy of a thing at the time, But this person, I'll never forget.

2:23:35 means like you're running for office do i tell the truth about this now or do i save my political Did he? Around the time when you became a brand, I remember it was having a brand. No one has ever said that to But I mean, but it's still nonsense. How do you manage yourself as a brand, Kurt? description Gerard said to me a long like, so when all that you fight

2:26:21 And make jokes. As long as it's funny. Yeah, pull that story how the hell okay, by the way He raps N-word on camera, rapping along to the words Prime Minister of Canada though. Someone else, a professional player was like, I fully accept the consequence of my action. and they withdrew it. No. There's an old So look, he's fucking... Mickey has a boner, and he's making Swiss cheese with his dick.

2:29:40 How crazy is that? Okay, you got to read these because they're sometimes crazy. an internet forum that frequently features Photoshopped images, These things go fast and viral on TikTok and no one fax checks anything. Was there? Some of it looks real and some of it is. Some of it could be like this though, right? Swiss cheese factory. for the Little Mermaid

2:31:41 We didn't have any, And that's why they're putting a satanic symbol on the shampoo. Look at this. He said Stallone did it? he did his residency in Miami in the animals in their ass that's how you know we're superior we don't have to just eat you Like, if you're Richard Gere and you walked into a party, people would start making jokes. Just you. What?

2:34:56 There was no internet. Fascist area. Yeah, they're friends with Frank. The guy was friends with Franco Cristobal I guess it's like a high up. What do they make, Jamie? I'm sure you're smart. like name brand, by the way, very well done. I don't mean cooked well eat? Like, hotel food. Yeah, very, by the way, it wasn't that expensive Really? and this girl in front of me had on this jacket

2:36:59 Remember Minnie Pearl from Hee Haw with the hat what I wish I could have got was the Nike Reeboks. So if you're creating something, you're in some company, Chinese authorities shut down elaborate fake Apple service center. Is this why the weed costs more than illegal now? in comparison to alcohol, it's not even comparable. You ever see that? Oh, that's what it was.

2:39:28 Oh, so you're smoking gold. Doesn't mining the gold for the wrapper probably harm wildlife more than... He's going to open it up. That's all. It used to be a thing like a guy with a ponytail would say to you. A lot of fucking really cool people involved in the cannabis business. that was that HBO show high maintenance about a guy delivers weed on his bike

2:41:35 I didn't even, it's just weed, man. drive with the cash to the bank. The nerve of a credit card, yeah. the way that if you use a card, Yeah, because I bet, and whatever the fuck. Do you know how the illegal market is now, I guess, bigger than the legal market, The way it's I think all these places when they legalize it want to have like a monopoly that's in cozy with like whatever politicians put it through because they make it hard.

2:44:15 And so, I mean, if you got caught- Imagine getting arrested for something and then you get first dibs on license to grow it legally. California stinks, dude. What's the cost benefit for the state for having it legal? I don't think that includes the local taxes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're so lenient about it because it is legal to grow it in the state.

2:46:26 So if you grow more than six plants, the law makes it a misdemeanor offense. Wait, who did? Make sure everybody's up to regulation. did something. Yeah, right. And it's because it's that's the first of all it should be fucking legal we're not babies why isn't it though it's Oh, I think a lot of them do. I've heard private prison guard unions. Do you know, I just found this out.

2:50:00 like vagrancy or something for 75 bucks. I think that's why it made the papers, this debt peonage thing. defense in court was no we're not doing dead peonage we're uh we have slaves You always hear about, like, sleeping in the Jim Crow. So I go to look it up and then here in Texas. It's not even profitable that's why they may have the amendment to free the slaves,

2:52:17 they use them sometimes as cheap labor. She doesn't want to disrupt the prison labor, so she doesn't release. from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or CAL FIRE. They earn So to put it on in a positive spin, Yeah, I've seen the dirty dozen. Dude, maybe the forest fire because I've experimented with many medications. It's not great when you see their process with non-prisoners testing.

2:55:28 If you got a guy who's killed a bunch of women, Yeah, Manhunt. Yeah, sure, sure. you had to have done heroin before. Whoa. drug experiments for people in the 1960s. these guys would go to a whorehouse looking to hook up with some ladies that's a psychedelic All points indicate that he was taught how to take these people and lead them. Like when did they end this?

2:58:54 Yeah, it sounds so crazy, but it is a real thing. Do this. chemical that would cause enemy soldiers to become gay and to have their units break down because all and just want to fuck. Someone from an alleyway. the soldiers with terrible smells long enough That's hilarious. Make their skin suddenly unbelievably sensitive to the sun. They create like a, what would that call it?

3:02:51 It's wild to watch. Scroll back up to the top again. where they were talking about how the sheer number of different parasitic wasps is insane. like go down there and inject them inside I thought he- And it injects them. Yeah. Nearly three quarters of an inch into the wood. not what i'm thinking of i'm thinking of there's a bunch of different aliens one that yeah that inject their uh larvae into other creatures and make their they paralyze the

3:06:08 Yeah. This effort. reducing the mealy bug population to manageable levels for years. hours ago. out of its body is that wild yeah look at this it's just injecting its offspring into this thing's Yes. Okay. because when they first cataloged them, they didn't want to say, They just have orgies. Nature's medal is a hardcore account. It's chewing its innards out.

3:09:31 They're just eating it alive, just tearing it apart while it's alive. That would be a funny thing to say. Chuck Palahniuk? He says the movie's better than the book himself, right? he like I thought yeah, he'd know he loved the movie the movie When I was getting groups because his Otherwise like how do you know? How do you know what he talked about, like, you have to be free to make disturbing things. Otherwise, like, how do you know?

3:11:49 You have your asshole near the jet engine. There's one of the stories where there's a- I know. who transformed as if a werewolf aboard the plane and caused the crash. In the Humboldt area. It's like a series. Oh, I didn't ever, because that... Yeah. It's a good fucking documentary. It's like a series. Really fucking interesting dude. They would have got away with it.

3:14:52 Yeah, on the island of Flores. They call it the Orang Pendek. Well, there's a thing called island dwarfism. You know that wildebeest thing you showed me? longer endurance right yeah but they're living in the jungle. Dude, they gotta be fast. like, the earliest version of the anatomically Imagine being in a time machine where you could just exist in a bubble

3:17:28 It's probably real dull. could theoretically reach sprinting speeds This guy found some footprints in Australia and used those as... Oh, this is so what does it say there? The team published its findings in Science last year. what's it saying there So, okay, so it was 22,000 to 21,000. Right. Really? fossil find fossils are kind of rare look at that so these guys are seeing this stuff erode and then

3:22:09 are going to be preserved. when they first found them tons holy shit gotta be trained too because that just looks like someone stepped on a bug to me To try to find these ancient dead creatures. that it has to die in a very specific way The raptor's a little made up. skeletons got blown up in world war ii that was like the the really good skeleton and then i don't

3:24:47 They had a fucking raptor. than a $50,000 blunt. Oh, it smelled wild. Why the hell not? With Libya. There's no infrastructure. dictators and then you just get rid of that dictator you have all these people that have Everybody talked about it. in a movie it's like it's so stunning to see a guy who is a dictator getting captured by rebels That's the first thing he was thinking.

3:28:03 but it was like there's one part where What is that? day and feed them to their dogs. Yeah, when we liked him, when he fought Iran. And then that's like Gaddafi. Who killed their president? What happened? So what happened? January of this year. How was he killed? Wait, where's the guy? One of the killers was speaking in English Jesus Christ. Definite definitively, I'll say it sounds plausible what firm whatever whatever we outsource everything's outsourcing

3:33:22 So a while back when Hillary was in, they quelled a thing because they wanted like, Jovenel. They had two U.S. mercenaries. Really? Makes you want to dig into There's a lot of, I'm sure, bipartisan interest in keeping it how it is. They just want to sell links, right? Think you might be onto something. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, dude. We have we're like four hours in oh shit

3:36:06 by the way. Yeah, to the 30th, so there's new fresh prezzes coming out. do you see we got Seinfeld to do the last one? He was like a great sport. They could use you right now. Here's how you play. We did it with Ryan Flippy, too, one time. Yeah, man. Well, we've got a couple hours. Kyle Dunnigan Show.