Joe Rogan Experience #1906 — David Goggins Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience I always feel like I shouldn't be. For me, creatively, it's good. but i'm in the car another fucking mental aid station when i'm fucking eating mental aid A hundred percent. And I'm like, fuck. and they can fucking be good with that. the suck every bit of it comes from the suck. I'm like, bitch, you don't have that. Yeah. Right.

4:04 But that's what people need to hear because they feel like that somewhere out there, there's some superhuman person who never feels despair and doesn't have any, there's no hesitation. me to get my fucking ass up and do some shit. And that used to be me. And nowadays, you know, Nothing exists. without having the golden carrot in front of us. day but you're also recognizing when that marathon's over that's right that's right and as

6:49 You beating the demon again you run every day, but I don't think people understand how fucked up your knees are some great body alignment some great no I know, I have sickle cell. I have all kind of shit So the pain in my knees, stop feeling sorry for yourself, but you sometimes knees hurt. Fuck it. Stop. And I call it like I'm stop feeling sorry for yourself,

8:39 Hold on. And my knees were fucked, but guess what? You don't want to be like David Goggins. And it was changing the alignment of your leg. 17, 18 months ago when this happened. Is that thing sticking into your leg? And if you see that other picture I sent of the foam, my foam leg that I put my hand in. you know once again it's just things you uh things i was willing to endure to get yes it right there

12:02 So this is the first surgery after BUDS? can't hurt me but um it was uh i think the boat i fell it twisted but over a period of time it's So i'm running a lot. short it was like okay man i gotta get this thing looked at so when gail looked at the doc was like oh we can go in there and just do a quick little fucking you know cleanup job and the cleanup job

13:56 Wolf's Law syndrome, he said. go fuck yourself, bitch. so my alignment was so bad, the shin the tip fib it just dangled like there was nothing and i was like okay man this I did like another 200 miler did a couple more races and then I could say cam came down okay, man, was unbelievable. fucked up blood yep jesus yeah so that so after surgery i'm like i'm like seven

17:10 I'm getting fucking like literally get my knee drained every week, getting PRP. So I had the surgery done in February. And we fly there, but I'm like, he can't fix this, man. He was all kind of guru'd out. It's over. And when this guy looked at me, straight-faced, he said, man, will help you out what's an unloader brace so basically my knee went in on the meniscus side

19:59 So this is all you have for me. I don't like to lay in my shit too long. let's go, what the fuck's going on so he was like yeah, yeah, there's this surgery called HTO. It's very painful afterwards. Painful as fuck afterwards. And they put that plate, the plate you saw, back on, and then your leg is – So they take a slice out of it because it's deformed.

22:19 is it takes it over to the lateral side so on outside, so I have a nice meniscus over there It's getting there. Why is that? I'm not even gonna get into that shit. See if we can find out what that is because I got some And this is, oh, look at that. If you were a candidate for that, would they be able to do it and you'd be able to run? surgery he did so right now there's no bone on bone for me.

25:22 I believe Dwayne Wade played years, years, if I'm correct, with no meniscus. Here it is. Right. Motherfucker, I'll swim. You know, like fucking, oh, I'm not good enough. So my my military resume is fat. You know, I fucking did a lot in the military. not only that, when you were able and you were able I have the money I need. The body is the vehicle for you to express yourself.

29:08 that you've done, even though obviously people are. he didn't fucking cry he said oh my god i'm gonna miss the sport what the fuck he walked off he gave break now hey you're fucked up as long as my knees are halfway working i got to run you're telling me And when you give everything, I'm not crazy. Because people don't understand you or they misunderstand you or they purposely misinterpret the way you're living your life.

31:34 I studied the darkness. I couldn't fucking read and write to I was a junior in high school. How are you able to write like this man? in front of fucking 15 people, and I walk off stage kind I got to say one line, one fucking line in front of fucking 15 people The only way we're going to fucking get through this You know, I studied the black matter of the mind, the dark matter, you know, like fucking Stephen Hawking.

33:21 You can't. is like our minds are like a fucking garage. you can put that car in there. breaker just overloads and it fucking sparks and our minds that's that's our mind man it's like a And it's constantly piling up and shit unorganized and organized mind, man. And that and this, and I want a raise, but I can't get one. You can't fit the grind. It's almost like you've got something you

37:02 of that or however you do the little picture shit so you can save it on your phone. I do that my mind so I get in these moments. I'm like fucking okay or every day i get through work and every day I get through studying, whatever it is that brings me to that place of knowledge, It just didn't happen that way. And when you try to convey it to people, when you're writing it out and when you're talking about it, what

38:59 I, and the fucked up thing about me, why I'm able to do it the way I'm able to do it. People want to get to be, to feel whatever success is for them. It comes from scratch. whatever you're trying to be, That's why I'm a fucking wildland firefighter now. Like you can do hard work, hard hard mental work and it's very difficult and i'm sure you can learn

41:38 Before the race. I love it and I hate it. It's a love-hate relationship. I need two or three or four lifetimes to be where I want to go. And nothing in the world can do it like pushing yourself to the absolute limit And once their talent level is gone, it becomes a mental game. And then after that, your mind has nothing for you. where your talent ain't gonna do shit for you, my friend.

44:34 There's many fighters that are at an elite level in the gym. exactly what goes on your mind so how are you going to fucking defeat that bro you're sitting See you. Because some people are very talented and they just don't work as hard. He's like, talented guys, the problem with talented guys is they can get by early. because they don't develop that mental game that you're talking about they don't have to

47:46 we got to get you to the point where you're into that mental zone. the deep end they live in it man they thrive in it even though you know your ability you know your history you know what you've been capable of doing Every morning I woke up, all right, motherfucker. We don't do that for ourselves. a story here you and your wife go out and you see your cousin and your cousin's fat as fuck

51:07 A lot of people that we see all day long And that's why when people see me and I know you, you're in my little foxhole. what's going on with like fat models that's it i'm proud like you're beautiful no matter what And the more you push back and then it's not right for people to talk about it's I'm sorry, man. to fucking help yourself out. world me included that if i accepted that i wouldn't be anywhere so yeah a lot of people

54:33 that you'd become a part-time savage, Not that long ago. hey, hey, look what you're doing that is doing 12, 13, 14. Oh, yeah. You going to go for a run? And so Jennifer can run her fucking ass off. But my whole idea was I know the course bitch 10 mile mark so we get to about but i'm like this is a prideful motherfucker man and we keep on going man holding sixes

58:16 Whenever me and him are together not like lifting weights it's like you know we go and do like so many reps. It's a super set, man. So we're going through lifting lightweight, but for massive massive amounts of reps And so you're like totally swollen and like it's just the some of the best workouts in the world between me and him And that's a mental aid station.

59:53 great quarterbacks they'll be at the line of scrimmage and they'll look at I got to fucking get my head back in the game. They go, how do you handle it? to try to do something not trying is failure So I don't look at it as failure is a big word like that gets people down and shit Because I don't know if everybody shares your approach. And the reason why people hate it, to me, this is just my own theory, is because you haven't beat it.

1:03:02 bro, because they're proud. Yeah. this is not supposed to happen to me right there's a common thing when i've had conversations with Right. if you're not good or you came up wrong it's almost like you can't believe the journey. Like I talked about in that fucking VFW and I'm My mom was struggling, bro. they don't see these motherfuckers man what they deal with every fucking day i'm not good enough

1:06:12 And every day you fucking fight not wanting to get up. fucking piece of that rock up before you know it you have this beautiful fucking piece of of of Yep. because I'm always by myself And I'm running a 300 pound man thinking, man, Why am I here? and most people don't even believe what I say half the time, So some people can go read a book and get belief.

1:09:53 I have to build it. And I knew that. then think about what happened to him to make him who he is. Yeah, that fucked me up, dude. and I got sucked back in. because of you, dad. So I was hoping to go back and get the confirmation that I always wanted. that he would cheat on my mom with I sat on that couch in the corner and I was like god what the His demons became mine

1:13:47 It's very few that put themselves through hell when life is great. through that in order to empower all these other people in order to become who you are and that as You know, people, like I, you know, there's a part in the book that I talk about a prisoner mind. Yeah. i was so aware of so much shit. Man, why you cuss so much? like the part where my dad says i brought this belt from texas this belt came all the way from

1:18:01 She said, fuck, don't put my shit in there. not just a prisoner but a prisoner who killed a woman dude this And then I'm about to go in the military 15 minute call hang up so but it's all good, man. So she had a full-time job at DePaul University in Greencastle, Indiana. she she she met him in prison and um the phone was ringing every night she didn't tell me about

1:22:23 Sit down. So I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there, and I'm like, okay, man, I got to fucking ask this fucking question. I'm thinking, okay, maybe drug dealer, So I'm in fucking Air Force boot camp thinking about my mom's about to fucking marry a fucking dude who got sent to prison. So my mom divorced him, obviously, after it didn't work out.

1:25:05 would and she was like is this motherfucker gonna fucking kill me tonight and she started telling And then I think he OD'd last year. gonna be alone oh my god you can't just get on the phone and call, So I got recycled. I was just out of it. What was it like when you met him? even though i'm an introvert i'm an introvert because my fucking life sucked

1:27:44 down so bad pieces of shit i became an expert in pieces of shit i used to be one my dad was one so you can and how hard life is, You turn on David Goggins One of the things that's hilarious in the book is that you read all the shit that people write to you, all the hate. fraternity bro this isn't like a fucking like oh like in the air force you know it was this is a

1:31:22 like the news oh Oh, my God. I guess they killed somebody over in Iraq who has some information, some shit. shit comes from shit you haven't handled so I it doesn't even bother me anymore But I'm not going to name his name because. Think about it. And he was coming out of the SEAL teams. Right, with a hole in my heart. So they were loving it. And so when you're in these kind of communities like this, man, people are like, oh, no, there's no way he was trying to do that.

1:35:45 I deployed with him See, man, in there. man that doesn't sit right with some fucking alpha motherfuckers dude and these motherfuckers do some there's a few guys that came after me designed that way for the liars but this guy came out and what i do is i studied him so jennifer truth behind it right lies fucking lies yeah just because we didn't get along motherfucker

1:38:39 down so bad i ain't no bitch like that whatever happened to SEAL teams with me Happened to SEAL teams But I studied all these little bitches Yeah, I fucking just fucking dropped it something good I said who the fuck I am I And I can tell he wasn't good because he wasn't right in his head. He was, you know, he wasn't good. And I can tell he wasn't good

1:40:21 and was like, hey, can you, do you know this guy? And I was like, yeah, I know him. Andifer and was like um hey can you do you know this guy and i was like yeah I was like, man, you got in. half the reason why I fucking became who I became And because they, like, no, motherfucker. And then the heart surgeries happened. it's coming oh yeah Motherfuckers don't care.

1:43:24 There's a lot of Navy SEALs you never deployed over combat ever ever and it makes me laugh and they think they go above and beyond Yeah. Like, man, you got a lot of motherfuckers fooling. Seven chits. So I went to ranger school, came back, honor man. I was the enlisted honor man at ranger school. ass kicked. I did. I did. So much range school came Okay?

1:46:26 So some days I would do it, some days another guy would do it. So we had to go out in the you get exorbitant amounts of attention and success it's like, anyway, I sent you an email. And what he was talking about was Hell Week. what it is man you ever heard uh when people talk about some union work one of the things that teach them if you're trying to go to that uncommon amongst the uncommon place it's a lonely motherfucker

1:50:27 Because I can't do what he does look at him, man, fuck yeah right instead of a smart person It's a lonely road All these people hating on me man He was going to write a book. Until you get wrapped up. But I will tell you to go until you fucking kill yourself until you get rhabdo things in your mind the moment you start entertaining haters The average person knows a few haters. Maybe if you're a good looking woman and you got some

1:54:23 you need to get on social media and blah blah So this guy wrote us, and this kid was having a hard time with bullies So, you know, that's why I don't cower from shit, you know, at all. His son was a big follower of mine, how they changed. And that's a massive responsibility that people don't understand. They go, man, why don't you fall on your bike?

1:57:57 fuck i gotta be honest i gotta be right i gotta be better and that's that's when you know that when you're But I'm trying to be the standard. nothing is now helping people who, you know, like, you know, this is funny and people call me crazy who you want to be. Yep. One of my favorite things is the thing that I hate the most. And then I would do another one and another one and another one.

2:01:06 because the rogue bike will show you like you've done three which means you have to you have to do Oh, man. Right. And then life is better. But the thing that gets me is the level of I don't give a fuck and the lack of anxiety that comes after you work out every day is so worth the workout. And I realized that, man. suck as much as when you're cold and then you get in the cold so when I wake up in the morning I

2:03:31 But it's about the benefits of cold plunge before you actually work out. I think there's a link involved in that too. tested too. Sure enough, 8.9 is off the charts for a fat guy in his 50s. He said, then I did that people are realizing now there's some extreme benefit to heavy duty. It's hard. Like, you know, I've been to a lot of different training the military and that cold water it definitely many dreams die while suffering

2:06:52 I'll do cold. I just couldn't go below my knees. If it's real legit, you go under. bets because he was so goddamn good and he's still so goddamn good now but now he's fighting in one And, you know, really, Jon Jones fucked off. who just fucked up Dominic Reyes. Then he went on after that fight, got knocked out by Jan Blachowicz, who became the light heavyweight champion,

2:09:12 And his last fight, he fought Dominic Reyes, Easy, quick, because he finally worked hard. that fucking mind starts to click over man you get a full camp up in that fucking mountain, man, you start to... That fucking mind starts to click over, man. A lot of guys would do that. and, you know, you see eagles flying. When you get up there, Because there's different weight classes.

2:11:16 you can tell something ain't right. And he goes They're all Conor McGregor fans Look at this. Alhamdulillah. I know you guys don't like to say alhamdulillah God gave me everything Alhamdulillah Thank you, guys. And that's what he did. Punched him in the face. Let's talk now. Connor's saying it's only business. He was a bad motherfucker. who is now the new UFC lightweight

2:14:17 all of era used to be kind of a quitter yeah I know he kind of fell apart and So are there some old fighters right now who are still kicking ass? People ask about father time. Yeah. Father time's funny about that, man? I see these older guys who are still fucking grinding hard. People ask about father time. And it's that grind. There's father fatigue.

2:15:57 I know all about that. is that they believe The other less optimistic perspective is that you are destroying your mind and that your He's 170 for like 20 minutes. Damn. I mean, also cramping. It's another chop into the tree trunk. Hickson can't really even roll hard anymore. that family. under some of these I can't even see. that did what was advertised.

2:19:39 probably the most And I mentioned the Gracies. obsession yeah and i guarantee you man those motherfuckers don't have those conversations anywhere in the world they're like hickson's the man hickson is the man and he was a yogi he Beyond talent, bro. There's discipline. That's his brother Hoyler, who's also one of the greats. Yeah. That so many people would never understand that kind of discipline or that kind of human

2:23:17 Why do you do it, David? Why don't you put your feet up? Dude, right. I don't understand what your motivation is. Oh, I get that a lot. But whenever you're someone who's that wild and that far beyond where most people are willing to go, You're totally rewiring how the whole brain works to not to not feel sorry for yourself to ignore pain to ignore discomfort

2:25:23 they surface when you're fucking getting choked out i've seen so many see i love watching fights man because i i see them and i start to Volkanovski Alexander Volkanovski almost gets tapped out Volkanovski is the next And he gets Brian Ortega, gets Volkanovsky in this guillotine choke, a mounted guillotine choke, which is the nastiest shit ever. He might go to sleep.

2:27:08 He's going back to your team. This is one of the best fights ever for both guys. he should have gone home and wrote that shit out. gotta study that man that right there is so much. You've got to study that, man. with the victory, the cheers, the roars, the crowd, you get there and you want to quit and you don't yeah and you end up fucking getting through it

2:29:35 wall right now because that's what it feels like i love that there's something about the way you And you don't realize it. It just brings you this long-term dull discomfort No. You've been there. And that's why that's so important. People sit around waiting and waiting you're going to be It's a true statement. You got to go get it. They're always missing something.

2:32:44 You look like a man, but you're like a half a man. That's it. You look like a man, I used to fuck them shits up. Ooh, look at this. Yes, sir. So people don't think like this guy's just always been hard from the cradle to the grave. We change everything in our lives. I'm never wearing the same underwear every day. Appreciate you.