Joe Rogan Experience #1920 — Dave Portnoy Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience yeah People just want to categorize people in a tweet. I mean, yeah, if somebody miscategorizes me or mislabels me, I guess it would bother me a little bit. But that's just on them. I, I'm a big believer in the second amendment. You know, there Amendment. There's a lot of reasons why they would decide to categor you have to say and not say and what you can and not say.

2:59 Like on both left and right, ask any question, you know what they're going to answer it. You want to send – you're pro-military industrial complex getting funneled billions and trillions of dollars into their system to be able to create weapons to fight off Russia. So it's like, what do you do? But, yeah. that there was going to be some sort of a World War III.

5:08 start a world war he he came real close with like hitler that's like have you seen the titanic book the the book that was written about the titanic before the titanic if you want to google that What fewer people have heard is a short novel called It's called The Titan. i told you i don't gotta get better at this you're not a big you're a toxic masculinity guy you have

6:35 And it was like our first advertiser. For 48 hours, I'd just jump in my Astrovan and fill the news racks, drop them in bars throughout Boston. Yeah. look like you're getting your credit card stolen. They actually said, get us off the internet, I was doing cold calling sales. So that's why I created it. 2003, the first issue of Barstool Sports. Wow.

9:11 I didn't hope that's the one. But don't they do that in strip clubs, too? So how do you figure, like, how do they get away with it? Yeah. You can sell them clothes. they did that because of public pressure or because of business decision or kind of both It's a good business move. Right. helping and that's the only real altruism i think it's you're also yeah i mean it it benefits you

12:13 That's the first time we did it. there's a list of charities that you can find online Because some of them are pretty good, but man, some of them are shockingly bad. Yeah, that's real common, though. Kid Wish Network, however, it spends only three cents of every dollar collected on kids. Kids Wish Network. Oh. It's copying Make-A-Wish. Kids Wish Network. Put it on the record. We're

14:12 Yeah, that's evil shit. Three cents of every dollar. Yeah, there's Wish Network. Make-Wish Kids Wish. Three cents of every dollar. And you may think it's Make-Wish. Do you care about anything you say? delivering care and comfort to those in need. Yeah, Red Cross. That's the one why I didn't say it. It does say it has a good rating, but it also says scandal,

16:34 Fired amid lavish spending scandal The development was confirmed by Abernathy McGregor, a public relations firm hired to represent the veterans charity. on how they spent $800 million in donations. Wow. exactly yeah the same with like make a wish oh kids exactly yeah for sure dying kids yep yeah And he was aware of all that? just like every time any shaking could be a concussion so he was considering

19:38 Are they just released? fighters when it's time to leave. And you got to be aware of the risks, but you know what you're How did they hide it? that was the motivation of that movie. And I think that's part of the problem moving forward with it a little bit is if you admit it or change, Yeah. in 2017. That's real, man. If you told me I could be one of those people.

24:02 generally when you're 20 at 50. You got diamonds on your fingers. Like, Joe Namath showing up with a fur coat on. Like, you're driving around rolls royce you got diamonds on your fingers you someone's going to figure out how to fix that. Yeah, I think that people don't generally think about the risks in terms of the future. Walking in with Patty, I got to walk in with Patti in London when the crowd was chanting his

26:13 I thought Jared Gordon won that fight. saying much like your producer could beat me up so i don't that's not much of a threat i've never He said, embarrassing. Yeah, so I hit him back with that I'm like I you I said, it's probably there. Yeah. There's videos of him wrestling with him and grappling with him. Yeah, the Warlord game? Yeah, he wouldn't go.

30:14 You gotta know. You're like, maybe he's not. Somebody sent me something about Ukraine trying to control the media now. but journalists have denounced it as a move toward censorship. The law expands the authority of Ukraine's state broadcasting regulator to cover the online and print news media. Yeah, to me. It was crazy. They acted like I was on the left on that.

33:42 Also, it's not only the handpicking of people, self-evident, if you're talking left there's people that are trying to accuse elon musk of being right wing but i think that's just They got a ridiculous price. that he knows and people whose voices he's respected and he saw that like uh the babylon So if you're buying something and they said, well, it's 95% people, it's 5% bots, but we're

36:39 people on Twitter are actual humans and 80% of it is propaganda either by publicity firms or same tweet and he's like these are bots want to pull out. Well, I think if they He also has such fuck you money, though. It's like, what are you talking about, dad? My dad is like a very liberal guy. He's like, oh, hi. I'm like, do you still think the New York Times is unbiased? And he can't answer. He's like, well, do you think Fox News is unbiased? I'm like,

39:37 didn't think that we should shut the country down during the pandemic. And the Great Barrington like covid was yeah the all-time like i i went back and forth on it and because i in the beginning It doesn't matter. there's so many people that had this like dug their heels in stance on what is right and what is wrong, Like, even here, we're pulling up articles, and who knows who wrote these articles.

42:16 and freedom of expression is so important But then someone can write a glowing review that might ignore some of your flaws and some Yeah, so do you try, like, if you're trying to read up on something i'm talking now the major like It'll shut them down. If they lost 75% of their advertising, they would fucking go under. you can't differ from you can't like have any sort of nuanced perspective or look

45:07 Like all those media companies, nobody trusts them anymore. I hit it with this little lighter. guys who were with these corporate extreme examples at this point they're they have an ideology that they adhere to and what is straight If I was just a comic, I would kind of vaguely know that they're probably corrupt, vaguely And you don't have the time to be sorting out whether or not the Washington Post is being honest about gender affirming care.

48:03 And then you go outside, nobody knows. He's like my favorite comedian of all time. That's kind of it. Probably, I guess, like 90 percent. being. Oh, I didn't know you'd say, you know, it's a different it's a different mentality when you get to that. You get it. and he knows you're a nice guy. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. You know they found out that like 19 of the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook were run by troll farms.

51:13 So I think the solution is post and ghost. It's very hard to do. worst way? No. I like that. It enhances my perspective. See, I'm like a petty person. He ran ESPN. But it was years in the past. That was a direct quote he had. So he popped the champagne bottle. He used to. That's funny. where you have to pretend to be a fake person. Jesus Christ. He's the only guy.

56:21 To seek treatment. I don't know. Who cares? Like honestly, if you haven't been those were like you know how'd you get into that oh man um well i was bullied like most people you God, man, amazing to do that. So I was at Fenway Park with a buddy of mine, went to see a baseball game. the stairs and watch this guy John John Lee, who was the national you know like bow like he was like hey what's up man what the fuck you doing man he was a funny

1:00:21 Interesting so I didn't want to do anything that fucked me up. And my, my friend, and they just wanted to do coke all the time they wanted to get out and do coke and as a kid who was like finally i was a cut most partying like i smoked pot a handful of times i got drunk a handful of times during high Some guys went half-half. And I like being hyped up.

1:02:50 yeah the clams are pretty good yeah so we were we were driving and there was a car next to us And then I also had another buddy who got arrested who was selling Coke, and he got arrested for murder. Like he had like burned off his tattoos or cut off his tattoos or some shit. Like we would spar like we were trying to kill each other. And I was like, geez.

1:05:12 It's horrible shit. uh, lower belt classes, teaching them basic techniques. And I would teach like early He goes, that's what I think, so I'll do probably the neck. That guy went away, and I knew a couple guys They were letting him sell drugs. and I was connected to people that wound up, I grew up in a little suburb. and most of my friends were from the inner city.

1:08:08 lying why would i lie i tell the truth about everything yeah people always there was a phase They're like, don't do too much Adderall. Like, I don't get jittery, at least I don't think I do. Fake? No. It's like how many people are doing it? If you have 41 million prescriptions, You know? There's some studies that say it's bad for you. See, that's, it can't.

1:10:26 I think you can find both. That's because the increase in urination can result in a higher risk of dehydration. Mayo Clinic. I like a little cigar. You just got to take care of your body. Right. They're just trying to maximize their... These guys are so good. He wouldn't have have those close fights like when he fought alexander gustafson he didn't even train

1:13:33 interesting, I only watch one sport. I know. Yeah, there you go. But I only have so much time in the day, and I have to just – what excites me? But that's what's interesting to me. But am I following soccer? There's nothing like it, man. They lost, but he did the call for that. You know they didn't know each other? And his brother Bruce was like, I can do it.

1:16:20 and you could argue either way because i am a boxing guy he's done the biggest fights but you know are you ready to rumble Bruce doesn't have You're right. Very different. Jeremy Horn. You didn't even know what happened. I was a striker. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm helpless. I remember thinking, like, after a few classes like oh my god there's always a swinging chance.

1:19:40 You don't know what to do. I don't even know when someone's necessarily in trouble. But I don't know what happened. I think that's the way to do it you through it in a step-by-step way. Because the crowd rises and gets, like like super loud when somebody's a little bit were like tech people that were upset but so then how did that become such a big story the real

1:22:46 That stuff got creepy. I would have been in trouble in other ways. It was a matter of a time where talking about certain things was very taboo. it did you do research to see if it stopped transmission she said no so they all they knew to bear. This is what it is. I'm talking to this guy. I'm fascinated by it personally. Like the fact the lab leak hypothesis.

1:25:52 of fucking Newsweek. that is a lab leak. Are you going to not talk to these people because of pressure when you think these people are telling the truth? Yeah. Yeah. Like if it did cause the death of millions of people because these guys were lying the more they remain the same. Pharmaceutical companies from the fucking beginning of their You know?

1:29:19 They stood by me the way they stand by rappers. that's why for whatever reason, you know, I found myself in the position I found myself in. Like, There was a point in time I was like, I'll just do it for free. You know, the fact that an independent media organization, whether it's like Breaking Points or Substack, can exist and have millions of subscribers and millions of people that pay attention.

1:31:06 It's a different thing. He's my boy. I love that dude. So, you know, I stick with them. They stick with me. We're good. would reverse it and sometimes they weren't. And it was like this weird touch and go game where They didn't demonetize any of our shit during that time. could have done it. They did it to manyanked me off of YouTube. They'd have probably killed my account. They could have done it.

1:33:37 uh, You've been doing it so long, so your audience knows very well who you are. Yeah. They do become more ravenous, especially in response to someone like Brian Stelter. yours yeah and we can both do whatever nobody ever has taken me up on that ever and now that's We've never deleted anything really. they are are they normally not normal do they squirm and they know your base will come for them

1:36:17 I have the responsibility not to respond. You can't. So for people that are getting involved in this right now, I love the fact that some for hours and hours uncensored that ever existed before. Didn't exist until podcasts came along. for 13 years, I've been doing it for 13 13 years i've amassed a following that's been paying attention for so long it's like it's not it's not

1:39:46 think like i'm sure they do but i'm what i would say if they were an individual i know they're a with people. When you're listening to Don Lemon talk, you don't get any of that. Yeah, no, 100%. they're laughing right they're talking normal normal normal normal that's why it works so well They want just normal. companions would get way more views than the UFC would because people would like

1:42:31 100%. and then there's uh these like pool commentators that are just fucking amateurs they're terrible and they You don't have to have any background and broadcasting from a specific institution or any of that you just be yourself You should have like a library that I can just go watch you. that are you blank you give me a blank like you don't know that i don't pay attention do you know

1:45:15 He told me that story. So call her daddy, Alex Cooper. learned how to edit it. I did all of it. We just hired her on the spot when she said that. She So we hired them each 70 grand a year, three-year contracts. putting out the podcast they wouldn't do anything. and Call Her Daddy, we had a very famous meeting on the roof deck of where I lived. They left.

1:47:59 It's not going to happen. He calls, I've never talked to Scooter Braun the like he's Bieber's agent he calls I've never talked to Scooter Braun I was like, all right, whatever. She's killing it. It was just me explaining what the situation was. It was what's the big, Sophia with an F. if you asked me beforehand... She's certainly not doing what Alex is.

1:50:48 That was crazy. I'm gonna handle this money and also he's like the new boyfriends. Who's fucking excited about it all I Have you seen those documentaries? They put on Other than John Anik, was the best in boxing. The different people that they had that would sit in and do commentary. Larry Merchant would get all grumpy and shit. But perfect. Remember but boxing's so fucked up. Yeah. I mean, I love boxing.

1:52:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. himself and thought that that was part I just want to say to everybody that bought pay-per-view, We're back to fight hook. I was victorious. I'm through. I wish I was 50 years younger and I'd kick your ass. of boxing. That's why he won the fight. of the brotherhood of the fighting community whereas i get like larry It's a different world.

1:56:37 merchant but you know look that's just what it is i think the whole exchange is hilarious to express himself. It's not about me. It's about me trying to figure out the best way to get the No, no, no. have music over that louder than him It's the first time I just got outside, inside of you, No, it's fine. It's fine. I think it just swelled up pretty quick. Don't tell the commission. Is it back now? No, it's fine.

1:59:04 Or rematch a fighter here in 2021., a rematch of fighter of the year 2021. Also, you're the announcer. I want that. Yeah, that was great. And Chael Sonnen changed it first. He was an assassin. Yeah. They're really good at catching you. And people get confused about that because of like his antics and his, I mean, he's not They wanted to see you win.

2:03:16 Promotions and then and I say here's it's not about you make sure you know I mean, they're all. When Hamzat Chamayev beat Kevin Holland, I was in a very interesting situation because Hamzat weighed in eight and a half pounds overweight. he's the motherfucker of motherfuckers and why I don't care about that. but if you want to compete for the welterweight title,

2:05:28 If I die, I die in the cage. I believe that, Hamzat. And they let me do that shit. I had a hard time. The whole crowd was booing him. He basically- Here's a question then with fighting. Like, no, I don't want this fight? You know, Kevin Holland's a fucking entertaining guy. He picked up Lee Jing Leon and carried him to Dana White skills would prevail and they didn't.

2:08:08 and he carries him over to Dana White, drops him down, He's right here. That's another guy. I kill everyone! He's so good and he's so the champion kamaru usman all those guys are very capable of giving him... So is Usman... He's a huge name, obviously. And he got that surgery before the Leon Edwards fight but I believe the word is that he needs another surgery

2:10:45 Right after he says that. But he engaged and he got head kicked. What is the latest on the latest I saw it's still from like December was on Wonderboy, and Wonderboy broke his hand Masvidal was my most Miami night I've ever had. They asked. It's like, alright, fine. It was somebody like are you not interested like no i'm not interested i have a i have a girlfriend

2:13:51 I forget what I was watching, but they mimicked the Masvidal. was 100 going to shoot and if he gave him that opportunity so he came at him like this then he When we got him in the UFC, he already had fucked up hip. That's not his sport. Like Douglas Lima that i could and then you're ragdolled. devastating, I am fascinated by someone's ability to impose their skill set on someone else.

2:17:28 Look how he voids this leg lock and he just starts beating people up. doing things you're not supposed to do you gotta be a purist but this to me just looks like mission But I would have loved to have seen it. He's a bad motherfucker. and he's also like a certified killer he's so good anderson He fights Tyron Woodley. Yeah. Why? Is he a world champion?

2:20:19 If he does, it's a name only. He looks the part. but I don't know of any boxer who can bring enough to a Jake Paul fight. The guy he's fighting looks good. Look at this. Find the Tommy Fury fight on the uppercut. Shut the fuck up, dude. No. Shut the fuck up. Watch this. Find the Tommy Fury Watch this. Look at this. He's 100% a boxer. at this. Look at that right hand.

2:22:21 don't think so, you're just being a hater. No, I'm I would guess there's not more than two wins on there. They want to see someone who's like an undefeated fighter or like 16-1. I just want you to look at this. You're out of your fucking mind if you don't think that's good. He'd already been pummeled. legit, you're fucking crazy. Watch this uppercut.

2:24:05 But watch his skills man Guys get fucked up all the time in training because they haven't The same thing with Tommy Fury. He won't. So maybe he's improved. it's versus Tomato Can. That's not just And if you don't think he's a real boxer, you're being a hater. the best video, but you're still he's a good boxer, man. I'm seeing a guy just standing in the ring.

2:26:44 For you to say he's not a real boxer is crazy. I think Jake Paul, I have no idea. How do you know he hasn't dedicated his life There's a lot of guys that are two and three that are still good fighters. Yeah, he was definitely on for publicity. He got kicked off, I think. going after him? Are they being pressured continues the one thing i don't get about this, well, I do get, I understand.

2:29:41 amount of money and he's done it by doing this character, this online hours and you get to see this is a very intelligent and calculated guy. You might not agree with his They think it's fun. people who take it seriously which is where that's where it's a super that is where it gets is a very unwise move. No, nobody knows. Schadenfreude? self-owned L. Third biggest

2:32:33 I tried to figure out whether that was provoked. Yeah, I think the latest thing that they're saying is tax evasion, right? That was just posted a little bit ago. where he would like beat her up or something. I don't know. or if you have a wife or if you have sisters and stuff like that you don't want that well you don't It's like, whoa, what'd you just say?

2:35:43 hustlers university experience modern wealth creation i haven't looked at this i didn't know And that's where it's a grayer because I did. Aren't there like professors? Hustlers University. Secure your spot for just $49 is your last chance to secure a spot or a discounted price. Enroll now, Jamie. Okay. Like people are out to get you. And yeah, you'd think rational people would be like, whoa, you're crazy.

2:37:29 there's all sorts of different personalities Well, the bad stuff that he said embodies that. Basically, that means a lot of people were hurt. it means if it's true you want them to be punished That was a very interesting conversation because peers confronted him all these things and he did a great job of explaining they banned him from facebook yeah he's still on his twitter yeah elon brought him back yeah which

2:39:59 I agree. Jewish What is the biggest thing that he said? Loves everybody? Alex Jones was the voice of reason. For Alex to have to tell him hitler was terrible And he says some awful shit and then everything's taken away from him. He kept saying things, and he wouldn't apologize, but I mean, that's self-diagnosis. And like in front of Trump and it's like saying that mean recently no way back in the day with the make America great again

2:43:13 a businessman. He's like, letting Kanye. so like for him the Yeah. He wasn't just one of a monolithic voice, but he could wrap people around. Look at how Trump's like, yes, yes, yes. Interesting. I interviewed Trump. But he pulled me into this little souvenir a little like a souvenir room is what I would call it with like artifacts. this is the Monica Lewinsky room.

2:46:16 Oh, yeah. That was where it got crazy because, you know, the saying the election was rigged and that's a threat to the foundation of our democracy. by making sure that someone who they think is evil and a does exist and did it swing the election i don't think he proved that. I don't think he had the information where he could show the United States, here's how I know for sure.

2:48:52 you need to go in there. We need to go that were actively trying to rile people up, and they won't answer that question? So if one side's cheating, of a doubt and proved to the world, which he hasn't. He's like, no, no, no, I don't want that. and those are the only ones that want to run exactly which is great and that's the cycle Turns out he's not.

2:51:07 Excuse me. She did not. from like, it's a whole, the cameras are falling around. Like there's not one. Wow. But, I mean, you... everything about his life was a total lie but that's the kind of person that wants that kind There was a video of him. but it's actually kind of scary. Yeah, it's just it's a gross world. It really is. It's Everything they thought, like the years and years of politics worked against them.

2:54:04 Like for them, he represents them. And that's the part where there's tate trump that is scary masculinity, you represent gambling and sports and girls and money, and they don't like that. It's the arena. but you're completely unconnected. we are right. because I can't be as unhinged or – like, I can't go after people in the manner I would like to. I mean, I used to gamble a lot on fights.

2:56:55 investigating it. And it's serious enough where his fighters are not allowed to compete in the like Brandon Moreno Look, if you're going to allow gambling, which I think you should allow, you have to make sure that there's no fucking bullshit. I would just go to the betting. doing it. And I would just tell Aubrey. And we were at one point, I'm like 84% winning

2:58:57 different organizations that people are fighting for overseas deep and like if you're gonna know Yeah You knew I was on the wrong side of Meatball Molly. I followed her a little bit because I obviously watched that. I love her. And there's Talia Santos. Talia Santos is no joke. I was like, dude. submits justin gaethje he's the motherfucker of motherfuckers you know it's like you never know

3:02:12 He just didn't go all in. They're dedicated, and they don't drink, and they don't party. They just don't for whatever reason. Silk sheets, yeah. And he was the guy that always had a chip on his shoulder He could take it better than anybody ever. Terrence Crawford, he switch hits better than anybody. God, I hope they make that fight. emilienenko when he was the king of pride he was the baddest fucking heavyweight that ever lived

3:05:46 It could happen now. They're as good as anybody alive and they just they fight over in asia and uh they just haven't gotten the Maybe they feel like they can shine over there more. because they knew how to cycle off and when to get it. Especially if everybody else was taking it. But it's complicated. You can't be those guys unless you're taking steroids.

3:08:50 He's just like, yeah, I take them. He looks like Zeus. And on top of that, he's the most dedicated, the most intelligent, the most technical, Everybody's scared of him. Like a guy who rises past the sport itself and he becomes like an icon for what that sport is and becomes because it's also his tech and you look at the best guys that are competing,

3:11:17 And the two of them together are this unstoppable force. stuff that he does to to get better i mean he's doing everything he's doing everything right and This is like the bodybuilder conversation. Do you follow bodybuilding? who won the world the mr universe is here these guys are fucking preposterously huge they're But he was still, even up to the point where he was 30 years old,

3:13:37 Hadi Kupan? But I mean, that's what he wants to look like. That's why he wins. That's not a warrior. Yeah, right. And he's honest about drug use as well. Well, that's like the liver king thing, right? Now he looks like that. No, no, no. Yeah. That's why I'm saying he's... But there's also crazy to do it but to them no and they go No. I think for most people, no.

3:17:03 I mean, it's also, it's body dysmorphia because a lot of those guys don't think they're big. That's why they do it. Yeah, it's not normal. I mean, also, it's body dysmorphia. Yeah, that is what you said. People are weird. You ever Rich Piana? he's got his hands on the equipment yeah the upper right. Like, what the fuck, man? Yeah, I'm not giving these guys

3:18:33 He's sticking them out because of his arm. 2017, so he would have been 47. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to take it. Thanks for being here, man. We'll do it again.