Joe Rogan Experience #1922 — Sam Golbach & Colby Brock Transcript
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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day And you broke your back? That's a real problem, though. So did you have to get surgery? But now that I've broken my back, I'm like, I can't. It's people that are like deeply stressed out and fucked up, He's not right. You're carrying it around with you. fell over. Like they're listening.
3:13 Do you feel like that's possible, Do we 100% buy that? So who are these people that said there's someone behind you? We can't see these types of things, Oh, for sure. But then there's also, the thing that freaks me out about ghosts is that it's been a reoccurring theme throughout human history. And so the fact that like everyone, like pretty much no matter where you go, like has some
6:09 like every place we go to, say that, You know, I look at them and be like, The Comedy Store is, without a doubt, haunted. Sorry, in the 40s actually. Here, Whitney Cummings sent it to me, so I'll send it to you, Jamie. of the comedy club and that was also owned by Bugsy Siegel stories from the comedians who Yeah. I've heard, like, comedians like Bobby Lee in the past say that they've had issues there.
8:55 It's like everybody that works there is... That might be an excuse for why they don't want to work with Bobby. There's a lot of people that had stories of like seeing weird things and meeting people that weren't there. He got in a fight with his wife, and he got kicked out of his house, And he goes, hey, it's Carl. stage and onto the floor and then he hears chairs moving again and BAM the
11:06 Maybe there is now, but they definitely wasn't back then. like just pranks and stuff. So you started when you were in high school? Yeah. I was 16, We're both originally from Kansas, um, Overland Park, Kansas. And just in case I got called on, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't freaking out internally. And so together you decided you were going to figure out how to be confident.
13:18 Yeah, yeah. And it's a lesson of honesty. Sell your soul to the devil? at the mall and I told him, come pick us up at close. And me and Colby would go back and forth know what I mean and vice versa and so, like we were just looking up YouTube videos, like honestly, that make you uncomfortable. just keep failing, keep failing, keep failing until one day you succeed.
16:11 I'm the guy who, you know, the girl broke up with me. That's what's really dangerous for people. because that's a really clever way to deal with the inevitable awkwardness that everybody has when they're young. Right, right. because I knew that I had to go to the bank teller Because I'm so comfortable talking to people. People do care if you're weird.
19:06 Like, if you were to see somebody do something embarrassing or weird, Yeah, it does. So, so you guys start out, you're doing these videos where you're just checking out abandoned places. It was literally like a year boot camp. you're doing even like our family like at some points we're like what like i don't understand this but once we learned how to become confident we felt like and especially being 16 like we felt
21:06 So it's 10 year old technology. It's terrifying what they can do. So it was all public pranks and disturbances. You got banned from the mall? We can't even come back now. Or like the dads like sit on there for a while. you can never come back. Yeah. And so we heard about all the people out in L.A., all the collaborators. And they were like, well, like why?
23:38 And we just played like the whole like, we're doing a gap year sort of thing on them. Again, a mom just wants you to be financially secure. That's a real number. Vine didn't have a monetization platform. like, but it was honestly just like a meet and greet for guys. They did something so they could do it publicly. Luckily, that ended up working out.
26:07 However possible, we're going to make it happen. Did you find the Vine apartment building? any money whatsoever. We only had one car out there. So it was just grind mode. and then you move to YouTube. It was actually when Vine died that we realized, I mean, you guys are doing, like, little mini documentaries now. She forced me to watch these videos.
28:19 Is that right? So she tells me about it and then she makes me watch a bunch of the videos. a school or back in the abandoned days it was different um again we were trying to find ourselves And then goodbye. When we started. Minor crime. Yeah. less than that probably like 20 hours or so but i had to stay overnight in the jail while sam was And the deputies were super nice to us.
31:54 They cap it at like 5,000. I ended up bailing myself out. I wasn't expecting it to be, like, a good experience. Said goodbye to Sam. book, went to like my cell and just stayed in there. And then like 20 minutes later, I'm like told him why we do what we do and all I trespassed for you too? For sure. Yeah. But we had a conversation for way they don't think you're a threat. Oh, for sure. For sure.
34:59 under his wing, like introduced me to like all of his friends and in jail and we played like basketball and even know. It sounds like it. I don't have my phone because they take all that stuff. call this jail to try to bail you out I was was like, wait, what? And then as I'm leaving, there's fans outside. But from that night and getting arrested, it completely blew up and changed our career.
37:15 this is a legal thing we could just do at hotels and stuff why not just do like the haunted haunted but every once in a while we would do like a haunted thing Really? Yeah, I didn't realize how like famous it was, but they have that. And we're like, whoa, like, you know, And we were kind of frustrated at that point because we're like, all right, this is supposed to be the cream of the crop this is supposed to be the big big wig
39:49 actually like you know freeze and freak out two of our roommates that were there at the time like faint though it was like a tap like a tap and so okay let's just run with that can you tap more And like, we tested everything. We had no idea that he was doing that. Like we genuinely were like, okay is there more than one of you yes and then we'd say are you alone and it would say no back
42:31 like utility room to our left um and obviously we had like basically that whole like floor to Like, we were all like, oh, my God, what was that? at this point. We really believe if this is truly something, I want to know something about in order you know and so what they're saying is like we don't think this is some like spirit or It was really interesting.
45:26 maybe something else, something else is out there. Like I'd grown up a Christian. But at that time, like crying to camera saying, that was like, it wasn't necessarily we were like a thousand percent believers the second we like had this experience. into it we're like okay if we can just keep doing this and keep getting more and more proof like But your roommates thought it was demonic.
47:43 At the time, I definitely thought it was a demon If it was a demon, like, hell, maybe if it is all real, So you went back after that? Last year. Do they rent that room out to anybody? But again, that's all alleged as well. B340. He just starts talking to you. So anytime someone has a crazy experience that they deem notable, they'll write it on the wall.
50:08 Bloody Mary? You like go in front of a mirror, Pretty much. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm curious, every employee, day out. That's the thing. if you are a physical body and like where And who's to say like, it's so interesting. uh, And he died. She had a monkey. She went to jail for bookmaking. She was in fucking jail. And people would guess whatever the number was and you'd pay into that whatever it was. And people would guess whatever the number was and you'd pay into that, whatever it was.
55:13 And she's like, I'm not ratting out nobody. of people dismiss that idea but i think it's like 50 of the united states or something like that Like just human life is fucking bizarre. Yeah. That was the first phase. or buildings and be like, why is it haunted? So we're also just like coming up with more theories in our head of like what we actually do believe with the paranormal.
58:03 Maybe. There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake, way, if someone For sure. Yeah. putting you know high-heeled shoes on her and short skirts and sexy makeup like what the fuck And then I Googled it. I think they might have even changed the name of the street to try to sell the house. That was the real scary part about it. No, it makes sense. And to this day, it's an unsolved murder.
1:02:03 They get a Villisca axe murder house and it's dripping blood was weird uh like our buddy was like feeling like he's going to throw up and it was just like really odd. a placebo effect maybe that because you know the story you're walking in there i mean that's a but then right five steps down a wooden creaky hallway Like, we don't know. Because for that particular ex-murder, the little girls downstairs apparently were the last ones getting killed.
1:04:49 Girls under like 10 too, I think research on this location we saw this this author that just came out with a And every single spot that this traveling serial killer went to would cover the windows and do weird things like that. And then they explained to us why. for up to uh let's see, they feel, feeling certain that Mueller I don't think so. similar. And the two other main suspects
1:07:34 I believe, who was just a businessman The similarities include the same being within a few hundred feet of railroad junction. watching the family go to sleep. It's hard to explain, feel it he goes i want i had to get out of there yeah that's the thing with some of these places Some people can see stuff. So, yeah, the movie story is like this witch,
1:10:57 Yeah. like right at the beginning of the United States and everything. Caroline Perrin. If you've heard of them before. We'll talk about that. But yeah, so anyway... Okay, so they do an exorcism there. making it worse, but I think it just They punched him in the face because he thought that It's like hiring a priest and then punching a priest. So the Perron family actually wrote a book about that.
1:14:32 I'm not sure. That's that's an interesting thing. Exactly. nobody would fucking believe you. Same thing with aliens or anything. that they swear were Man's got to make a living. that were in the town. He was a logger in Arizona and he had, including people that hated him, described it I believe anyway he runs up gets too close this thing a burst of
1:18:15 Calls calls someone on the cell phone calls the police tells them his story these recordings of him calling the police and telling his story He came on the podcast. life? the things you actually experience. they're limited in terms of like, If I levitate tomorrow. No. I don't know what city it was in. And so we're trying to do, like, more, like, alone challenges and stuff and just things that, like, give us more fear.
1:22:46 And then one of our other buddies is like across the street. But since I knew that had happened before, I was just up there, like, asking questions to Bernard. And you're talking to ghosts. And it's all on camera. or something emf detector so basically just detects changes in EMF energy. like one time we'll be like, all right, if there's someone in the room, can you go touch that cat ball 20 feet away from us?
1:25:31 Yeah, yeah. It looks like a giant hockey puck. So if something enters that electromagnetic field, it'll change the frequency. why the ball because there was a video of a ball sitting there by itself and you're watching this They had been to that place like three or four times hour clip, three hours of this ball sitting in that same area. He was filming his YouTube video.
1:28:14 The REM pod. It won't set it off. No? No, it's outside and it's windy? That won't set it off. We went up two floors and down the hall and then it started going off which was so monumental to us because it's like why are perfect to our questions that make us believe more. It's also battery operated the more things happen to you? I'm trying to be open-minded.
1:30:20 If you're not full of shit, you don't seem full of shit. You're in a mental health institution where people have died. I think it closed down in the 60s or 70s. for six years. We couldn't get fucking creepy place out? It's terrifying. So people rent it out and do stuff there. hey, this is like this crazier story that we had never had access to before
1:32:33 but basically the theory is that manifestation at all like do you believe in where like if you you think positively or think about Like how many people like tried to dream it into existence, but it didn't happen. And then assholes come along and tell you, It might be real. But what is luck? Maybe you're manifesting luck. Is luck already destiny? There's good luck.
1:35:48 Did you – like it's good to have this belief because that also gets you up in the Just like, you know. You know, like if you're – whatever you focus on, you know, like as an accountant, if you're always looking for errors, you're going to see all the wrongdoings in your life because you're looking for errors. getting past that and growing and say, that was valuable life experience and that's caused me to reevaluate and reassess the way I communicate and change the way I think.
1:37:27 Yeah. But I'm not opposed to the idea totally I am opposed to the idea that it's the only thing I'm opposed to the idea and I'm going to have the career that I've always wanted. a fucking loser and you know every guy i date dates an idiot and and you know i don't where everybody has followers now. Like when Sam and I They're lying to you. oh, I did it and now I can never do it again.
1:40:46 back to normal like he hit magic in a bottle with that one video it's like winning the lottery and Was that a year and a half ago or so? I mean, there's been so many occurrences of that, like, throughout all time of social media. Management and everything. Right. Look at his dress. That's good, though. Was it a Super Bowl commercial? Oh, my God. Really? Oh Oh my God, it must be horrible. It was a Super Bowl commercial. The whole world. Was it a Super Bowl commercial?
1:42:31 Like imagine you're Tons. where they're like on this TikTok wave of like, oh yeah, I'm awesome now or like whatever. and only sold like 10 or 15 t-shirts. But at least you got some spark. you have, like, Stop and think about that. Can't even imagine that. So it's literally just us with a camera. they like they like hanging out with you guys. They like hanging out with you guys while you freak out in a sanitarium.
1:45:22 Yeah. Is that really where he supposedly lived or is one of his castles? when you're in that guy's area like this guy for people don't know Dracula the When he was a very young man, I believe. and you just imagine, like, but the meeting was actually a trap. In science, philosophy, and the arts. which is why he gets compared to Dracula so much. Vlad's older brother, Mercia, was tortured, blinded, and buried alive.
1:48:48 But it used to. as the guy with the slick back hair Fucking great movie. And I want to say that was, what year was Nosferatu? Oh, my God. I mean, one of the best original of the scary movies. When did he do that? No. and that was probably one of our most terrifying experiences because in Odessa there is this giant like labyrinth of catacombs Like, Oh, great. We're like, all right. I mean, we need to get a video. Let's go. Like, why not?
1:51:53 entire time and he asks us to go in like a base of a figure eight um that's him right there in the us as we go and says hey let me walk ahead of you for this section. All right. Why? And he was like, um, because last week I and it was like i found this because i almost triggered this four Cause we're like, okay, this is not like just scary. Was it then?
1:54:32 So it's on the same. And so we knew we already had to, you know, lay low as we were like leaving. Like that's where we're at. Calls in, and then like two or three more I don't care who you are. Like what's going on? And like, were just filming our daily videos that we always do like what's going on and like why are you at the school and we're like what what school and like you just walked
1:56:50 And then like two or three more cops come and show up. god so was there someone else that was at the school uh no i well i mean the school part was They're seeing two guys that are like older with black clothing on backpacks and they're We were just exploring that, not the school or whatever. Wow. But what about in terms of like being in a haunted environment?
1:59:10 Yes. There's so much shit there. The first sense that I had afterwards. I wonder how that's affected Zach. A lot of people say it's a demon. boxes are now like just fake random things that people put around. this podcast oh yeah yeah if you go to the zack's museum it's him on the podcast they played a video That's what I felt. They do a great job with the tour.
2:02:43 What is his name? There's Volkswagen bus, which is bizarre. First five minutes that this is going to be horrible. and what's the doll the haunted doll yeah peggy peg Peggy. You can't look her in the eyes. It's really fun. up to these things, but it still shocked you? Tell them about Devil's Chair. That's crazy. ever had to close down. Look at those girls.
2:05:13 about you know getting nauseous or throwing up or something like that's apparently the only uh you've gone too far like you have headphones on and you have your blindfold on yeah so what's It's going... Because you're blindfolded. The conduit of these. So during that, I don't know if you've ever been like hypnotized. Have you ever been hypnotized? And like the same thing with hypnosis.
2:09:29 That's what I felt almost immediately. That one was the most physically. Apparently, Robert the doll, if you don't know the story, have you ever heard of Annabelle? When's he getting his movie? We blurred it. Filming a YouTube video And so it's the same thing What the fuck, Jamie? Yeah. Well, it wasn't a letter. claims that he got parkinson's because of that well a lot of people get parkinson's without that. Ozzy Osbourne blames Year of Hell on Haunted Doll.
2:12:58 Fairies. but just look at what I'm saying. i need that doll in my life no thank you but that's why we blurred his face right so you were It's like a life-size type of doll. this guy and just became robert himself but over the course of his childhood and all the way up until i think he left his parents house to go to college he would have horrible things happen to
2:15:23 And they'd hear two voices. this doll for his entire life like this is why people believe that it has evil to it. I would cry. And the crazy thing too is like our guides there were saying that it will like swallow every once in a while. Oh, my God. only to find the frightened boy to have Gene proclaim each time, Robert did it. but it can sort of embody itself
2:18:30 Like, I want to open up to that. And the Annabelle movie is about a real doll too? Can we see Annabelle the doll, what it really looks like? Yeah. Now look at Annabelle Very good job. Go say that to her face. we all split up, like Colby's saying. Recently, we were by, Robert the Doll, just to finish that story. So we all split up, It has a bunch of different artifacts
2:20:30 It's in the Keys. interesting. It was definitely putting me on edge, but I had a feeling that I'd never gotten before. And he's like dude your fuck your face is white like what what went on as I truly don't know was like yo you should go check on your buddy outside. Like, he's, like, throwing up outside. Paranormal hangovers. Unfortunately. And this is all in the keys.
2:23:08 It's pretty impressive. It looks pretty dope. Was that Robert? So, like, you're experiencing their last moments. like is gruesome. like trap yourself i don't know right if you can't relax and say i'm ready i'm ready to go There's no promotion involved. had us like read some of them and then we get to look at it it was like definitely like we shouldn't
2:26:26 There were definitely was things that have happened What did you guys ever go to the Amityville Horror House? I think it's just not even a business. How much of that is like the movie is based on the truth or is it just made up? Okay, so I was like 12. Let's capitalize on it. There's like a scene where he breaks through the wall, Oh, that is a scary way to die.
2:29:02 That's our most viewed video. Colorado. for the paranormal. Before we had equipment, really. different knocks on like doors and stuff. It's known to be a Disneyland resort for ghosts. Staircase ghost is huge. That were right there Is blurry That kid's a ghost But that one's weird. What do they call them? Yeah, people find faces in shadows on planets.
2:32:54 of rock. For sure. It's just So in Cydonia, there was this guy, though, that was – when you smoke a lot of pot and watch documentaries, Patterson Bigfoot footage? Oh, what? This is stabilized. Then there was a guy who looks just like, you can see the thing, that's the stabilized version of it. that it was him in the suit, and that's him. and then there was another name guy named
2:36:06 Coolest thing we've ever captured. something on the camera too click the photo and then she shows us this picture um and to us okay Or it could be a squash. And we were inside, so don't, like, ignore the thing on the left. I don't know, actually. Like is a pocket of energy always going to be cold? How long do you guys think you could do this? But who knows?
2:38:24 Your videos are massive. we've been in talks of maybe creating our And so why not create like a story time true crime channel? But again, most of this recently has been much more about maybe be on the fence they're interested in this stuff but then when they see these things like freaking out and of course it wasn't her and this is like a guess this is not us like if you don't viewers out there don't believe
2:41:08 This is freaking me out. Like not saying that they're not real, but like if you can mind fuck yourself into a place of real fear. Like, you know, how many stories are you going to tell at 3 a.m. with your friends that you're just like, yeah, this isn't real. but listen on all your success we'll come back