Joe Rogan Experience #1927 — Forrest Galante Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Dude, I watched your show the other day, the television show. Yes. No, that was an interesting story. That's the only one. I mean, depends what you talked about it before, the Megatherium, the giant ground sloth in Peru. Yeah. That's the only one. And I still think that in Papua New Guinea, there could be an extant population.

2:14 But dingoes were never introduced into Tasmania, which is why thylacine occurred for so much longer in Tasmania. Crazy jaw. So when you talk about cryptids and blah, blah, blah, Well, reports, yes. I know every animal in Tasmania. But, yeah, I mean, definitely some credible sightings. big expensive operation to try and get into these places. And then, that's just getting in,

5:08 They live in our cities. And it's very rare that you see one. and they choose not to be seen. Like P-22, Something's wrong with him, right? He was badly I think it's interesting. real? That's a still frame of it Jamie. See if we can find the actual video, So here's these guys. The guys slow their bike down just in time. That's the one that I'm thinking of as well.

8:29 Okay. you're going out there and you're being rebellious, right? They see it at dawn. Floresis. Yeah. and you're not expectant of it it's very easy to let your imagination turn into cranium shapes or whatever and yeah I think we used to up until 15 20 years Like a remnant memory that's evolved over time. Like they could have been in PNG flash and they go, oh that was that striped dog

12:21 Yeah. Just too big and stocky. And they see them there all the time. in your head and if you hadn't seen and the perspective, you don't have any scale and you go, Because this idea that you're going to be able to control their populations once you reintroduce them, you're not going to. Right. San Luis Obispo way to Central California, right? Wow. They'll also kill your kids.

14:49 I used to live in Boulder, Colorado, and there's this lady I knew who was a yoga instructor. Will you shut the fuck up? This idea that you're going to, like, I send out a message of peace. perspectives it's based on but like somewhere that is really raw, you're like, holy shit, no, that's not, it's not, you know, all Shangri-La out here. It looks less fake.

16:47 I think I might have seen So it looks like shit. in a spandex costume. between his knees. It looked like a different like that. If I had seen that exact I remember there was this one guy who was famous in Maine. rome i don't know what that is, undiscovered and It is kind of cool. It reminds me, have you ever heard of the Japanese survivor in Guam? And he spent until like 2002 living in this cave,

20:03 Yeah, and there's military bases and everything else in Guam. We'll find it. You just hang out for another year. This is the same. There was a man. His father didn't tell him what a woman was. Yeah, rat head was his favorite rat head who doesn't like a good rat head. Why is his haircut so good? They redressed him in rags. He was eating ratheads. They wore loincloths, made a tree bark, and lived in a timber hut raised five meters above the ground.

22:59 Yeah. That doesn't sound familiar. Oh, I'm not sure. Right. It's disgusting. Well, I'm a pizza guy myself. It's to keep your body strong and you continue to have energy. Like everyone's fat. Like, that was attractive. Yeah, I'm doing that now. I, I mixed in a little fruit. You know, they call it like the – have you ever done a keto diet? Gotcha. It's weird.

27:18 Yeah. And they are for most cultures, but definitely not all cultures, right? access to all the food and you really wanted to live an optimal lifestyle, Isn't that nuts that that's a real NIH-funded food chart that places Lucky Charms above eggs? Exactly. By the big food industries. Sure. You want the stuff that's fresh. Still packed with sugar though, right?

30:10 Yeah. necessary yeah i mean if you're eating meat most most of what i'm eating is meat and eggs sure I fucking love pizza, man. Yeah. And if you've covered this kind of stuff before, by all means, we can skip over it. meat, right? And be more aggressive and be more dominant. I noticed I was like, oh, aggro. working out really hard almost every Because you had this pent up.

33:57 Yeah. almost feel like it's like me going out and getting drunk. I don't like to do that very often, but when I do do it, let's go. I don't think it's the sugar, and sugar clearly does affect me, but I think the big effect is the bread. Yeah. So they've grown up with it. Yeah. The cat thing is think it does. Okay. It does. I would think so. But cats didn't. Yeah.

35:35 Cats, like that cat dander. Yeah. He's like getting a massage. He's oh yeah man rub my back so my cat's like don't try to fuck you up I definitely have a major allergy to big cats. eyes started swelling and then we realized We call him Boogie. And these wasps, yeah, these wasps are attracted to our headlights because we're working at night. And we're like, look, and he's dancing around, like holding his junk, right?

38:18 and making fun of him, right? and he's like, hey, man, like, can you take a look at this? and so we just burst into laughter, And Johnny was like, what am I gonna oh but it went down the majority of it i wonder if he jerked off during those three weeks i'm down the hole while he was masturbating Dude, while we're on the dickhole conversation, do you know about the candiru?

40:35 Down his penis needs it surgically removed As opposed to. People are so crazy that they're just been stuffing stuff up their dick so many times From an app? That's a good point. Very good point. So it swims into fish's gills and lodges its spines into those fish's gills to feed. Oh, God. I mean, I think it's just incredibly unlucky. It's on its leg, not anything.

43:21 But I go into the forest With a peaceful intention Deer only eat vegetables too There's a lot of them up there. He was banging all these ladies. You know, people just like give off a vibe. I'm sure he'd be a great cult leader. Which takes some smarts, for sure. I think you start off being a self-help guru. I'll be your leader. Again, on Tuesday. And not only just parasitic in terms of entering humans, but also they inject their larvae into plants and logs and shit.

46:18 It does. There are so, I read there's like a hundred. Look at this. Yeah, he's like jacked. Look how it reaches up. once it's paralyzed. The wasp larva will eat the spider from the inside out. Yeah, and it was, you know, I only know about it what I've read about it and seen. So they just have to be around, and then it's like, whoop, now They figured it out. How

49:03 It's like what I know how do you know how are you doing this? How are you building a village and and like some may like just recently? And that's like it's for the greater good of the hive. Yeah. and everybody that commented was like, there's a rope in the middle of that. That is just bodies. How did they swing over there? You can see right through it.

50:42 It's fascinating. true? Let's find out that. Hold on. on a scale. wrong. California Channel Islands in front of Santa Barbara where I live. closed off area. So there was elk on Santa Rosa, and then Santa Cruz, which is the biggest one, had sheep I mean, they're like semi-wild, right? Do you know what that is? But, um, the Judas goat is a process in which say you're trying to eradicate goats from an island.

54:08 a goat, put a collar on it as shit and you're being manipulated by people. They opened it up. I wasn't doing any pig shooting. Is that real? Nuts. Right. Yeah. Oh, this is regarding the blanket. was responsible for decimating the Amazon. Like they think the Amazon had millions of people. Have you seen the Honduran two or three years ago. or a town.

58:06 I mean, smallpox kills like 90% of the people that get it. Yeah, they were there. And then there's the weirdness that the jungle itself is actually man-made. societies. The Amazon prior to the arrival of Europeans in the Americas in 1492 is commonly depicted as a pristine wilderness dotted with small, simple communities. Yeah, and then they just run amok.

1:00:17 Oh, yes. Yeah, that's it. Because it's not like they're importing olives from Spain, right? And you don't think of, at least in today's world, I don't think of the Amazon as being Wow. I mean, it sort of makes sense in the sense of the abundance of resources down there, right? It's And, you know, when you're not fighting for survival every day So you have more time to make life convenient, more time to sell goods that would be valuable to people, more time to improve and innovate on those goods.

1:03:07 but like up into Scandinavia and so on and so forth, you get more and more advanced civilizations That doesn't make any sense because that's the absolutely most sophisticated culture Like the Nile Valley, they think 9,000 plus years ago was like extremely lush, which is one of the reasons why they were able to reach this high level of sophistication is because they had access to resources.

1:04:15 But I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Totally. And if you think about has that happened before and will it happen again? But it obviously science and medicine overcame that at too fast of a rate, and it really wasn't that lethal But I guess my point being, do you think that that's going to happen again? Totally. attention to what they're saying. And that irresponsible level of fear, the problem with

1:07:26 They call it a COVID death. that explained what incentive there is to put someone on a ventilator, what incentive there most hospitals, or a large Something that like the government funds so that we all take care of each other. Really? than we are. basically gotten down to a cold to the point yeah it's become so benign yeah human beings if you're Just make smart choices, right?

1:09:50 Nothing. Almost the Nobody likes them. I don't even see them anymore. Yeah, I did see that. What? we're looking at adverse reactions and we're looking back at this from five years from now or ten years from now, we're looking at adverse reactions the Spanish flu and the Black Tommy Dutra, he was one of my best friends. Amazing guy, incredible athlete.

1:12:04 you know, when everybody else was sitting inside. Yeah. Unbelievable. He was an incredible climber and Yeah. So they're putting themselves in trauma's way or harm's way to compensate for something that's happened is starting themselves in know we're doing it for work or whatever but those moments stick with me forever and i i sort of get and I've got a colleague, Brian Fry,

1:14:52 All right. The only place that has a wet, tropical, humid, high-density of prey environment I'm sure, Jamie, you'll be able to find this very quickly. Central Africa. Interesting. Yeah. And yet no big snake has ever been proven from there, Hmm. That's the real photo But they don't know, like, What is the biggest snake Van Lierde claims that, is that how you say his name?

1:17:39 sort of lunge at a helicopter. You're a Tic Tac. It broke our scale. This might be the one that's on the tractor. So these are all like retics, and, you know, there are big snakes out there. Look at the size of that goddamn thing. How big is that? put a huge reticulated python on show last week, man. But not 50. Not 50. Well, definitely when you tell people about it.

1:20:29 Yeah, there's a lot of bass out there But the anacondas have been clocked in slightly longer. The bad snake head, if you watch it today. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so good. The bad snake head, if you watch it today. You believe in the sloth, the giant sloth? And I just think that there are a few, not a lot of these big things out there. It was this guy who was risking his reputation.

1:22:33 the thing that I'm looking for. about this whatsoever. Please And I kept pointing to the trompa largo amarillo, the long-nosed yellow one, right? Yeah. Exactly. It doesn't even click in my head like I cannot physically understand it like no part of me is like oh I get that I had said Darth Kara on who his book, I think his book comes out. Right. It's one thing when it's a luxury, like a diamond, right, or whatever.

1:26:35 Oh, you're kidding. His story is so compelling Yeah. They call them artisanal mines, which is hilarious. Sure. you know, that's all like known and documented, but it wasn't a new species. It wasn't a distinct He's made a couple of pieces for the podcast. So, you know, sexual selection over time can evolve for anything, can adapt for anything, right?

1:29:44 millions of years and the sexual selection has been selected for over and over and over and over. Like, have you ever noticed a difference between a dog that's castrated and a dog that's not And the muscles in his head are big on the sides of his head because he has his testosterone. Well, if you got weak jaws or weak jaw So they just think it's like a subspecies of chimp?

1:31:24 They get smaller and smaller have come from Iceland? Try saying his fucking name. Yeah. That's like a half a P, a half a B. I'm sorry. 6'8. I see it there. Oh, maybe when he was he slimmed He actually looked really good He trained for a long time for it Yeah why they're so fucking giant. That's where they've come from. Yeah, so Colossal Biosciences is this,

1:34:23 of de-extinction and cloning and CRISPR of scientists and people. But they are planning on starting with, I think, 100 mammoths So it's Indian elephant is the closest living relative to the woolly mammoth A real mammoth? What they're doing is they're taking that DNA of the, and I don't understand the cellular Boy. Exactly. But the point is the science has been there for a while.

1:37:43 That's really interesting. So with, by removing those mammoths, So it's a couple different things. knocking the trees and shrubs over, So they're going to start with the woolly mammoth. So there's, it used to be the quoll, but now it's an animal called a dunart But yeah, I think the technology is there. Artificial womb? It's happening. It's so crazy. When are they projecting

1:41:11 Oh, my God. Yeah, it'll be gonna do saber-toothed tigers. I hope so. No, I don't know that genus was called? I don't know. Facial tumor disease? The Tasmanian devil. Sorry, Tasmanian devil. What a crazy little animal that fucker is. They're so If you're camping in Tasmania, which I've done for thylacine searches and stuff, Really cute. People have them as pets?

1:44:13 They are. and they rip it to shreds. That's literally, when people think about that, it's one of the only animals where the Look at these little, let me hear some volume. This is what I'm talking about. There was a woman I met who had one in her house. through the dog gate or through the we've looked at a lot of gross animal stuff So all this is potentially fixable if you put a predator, the right predator, in a small environment with overpopulation, they get diseases. Oh, look. Yeah.

1:46:38 That's what they look like, though. Oh, God. that has horrible mange. Eyes are swollen shut. They are going to do it in Alaska. I heard pieces of it because a couple people texted me about it. so that's what it looks like. scimitar cats were area. Like, why are there so many dead animals? Isn't that incredible? And the Younger Dryas Impact Theory is somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago, there

1:49:41 And he thinks that's why you're finding these massive storages of these dead animals It's like an instantaneous mass die-off. They just get smacked back. And he has so much. of them. They find them all the time. it very detailed. He's invited me up and tell my whole story. So we had him on. Apparently they were. Yeah. Isn't that funny? The New York Post, they always show me some love.

1:52:59 Huge lions. You decided to walk three blocks and you saw like 500 giant animals. I don't think so. And they essentially want to rewild some of the Great Plains. Because most conservation herds are less than 500 on small landscapes, Most of the bison on the landscape today are raised for commercial purposes. It's like a personal museum, but anybody can go to it.

1:55:18 I don't know how many bison, Revolting. But a lot of it they were doing it for the tongues. fun, shoot them from the train. They got so close. I'd say it's inexcusable. It was obviously inexcusable to the point of extinction. They got so close. When you look at the size of the piles of bones Yeah, quickly. Very quickly. when you look at the millions and millions of bison that were in north america at one point

1:58:31 Yeah. It was basically a penguin from the northern hemisphere. Look at that. But these animals they numbered in the millions when humans quote-unquote wiped him out, which they did But had humans not found them, likely over another million years or so, maybe less, passenger pigeon? Because it wasn't the they were such a flocking bird So it wasn't like they shot every, I think

2:01:27 their population got to a certain like capacity, That's why radical conservation like bringing back mammoths and rewilding wolves and stuff like that, There are small little successful stories, trying something is And that's fine. Which is 100% because of hunting. Right. funds are used the right allocating that money for rangers and wardens and making sure that these people, you know, like

2:04:00 It's like being preventative instead of reactive is the ticket moving forward. That would be so scary. But they'll start reproducing on their own, I wonder if there's going to be, like, groups of people that want to hunt were alive. Barefoot in the Arctic with a hunters no i mean like as a sport assholes oh okay. Yeah, I mean, it's not that good. Like hunting with a bow and arrow is very effective.

2:06:35 And I'm consistent. But if you do the work and if you are disciplined enough and if you practice enough and if your technique is right, you can be very, very effective with a bow. And you're maiming the animal. and then you're probably going to stick it again. because of this one individual. That's probably good. And I think it is good. Yeah. Like you use

2:08:15 two bear a year. Oh, wow. My friends John and Jen, who live up in Alberta, I've been up to their place before, they're seeing a lot of grizzlies now. They're In your yard? You know, I'm fast asleep. Because it was Santa Barbara, nothing happens at night there, right? I'm like, that was an anomaly. Didn't work. You're not allowed to kill them. The thing about bears is when—

2:10:53 fence, no problem. Right? Done. They're gonna keep And they're just clawing at each other. Like, who gets access to the garbage? the bear hunt. Because all the dorky liberals that live in the nice cities, they don't have Really? Yeah. That's the thing people don't understand is like we're at a state where we have to manage the wildlife. Leave it alone.

2:13:12 And I'm not saying get rid of the bears. No, I agree with you. And then they relocate them. That's my ultimate solution. Holy shit. It's like some jackass. Like you could get so much meat off of a deer. Yeah, I eat so much of that. I know you do. It feels different. Yeah, I cook it. like he's a little crackhead. the carcass, You have to cook it outside, whatever.

2:16:01 But you give him some elk liver, they go bonkers. Oh, yeah. Let it be liver. Have you ever seen that YouTube show? So he's eating it there with them. And they enjoy it. I've accidentally cut the bile open on a fish once or twice and just, oh, dude. But for whatever reason these people have developed a taste for it which is really fascinating. to eat it that way.

2:18:41 the liver king. Sure. And But the idea that that's going to turn you into, but I did read something about, um, And through testing these testicle supplements, they found trace amounts of what would show up in a drug test as taking oral testosterone. And turn them into steers. Yeah, I mean, it's not the best thing in the world. You're like, this is not bad.

2:20:31 Some people have looked at this. They're really excellent. Yeah, okay. Paul, Liver King, whomever, they're turning this into a thing. I mean, it is good in that regard. All right. So androstene 3, 17 dione, 20 nanograms per gram. I have no idea. Okay. their choice. A lot of predators pick out over other tissue, you know, and you get different stuff from different parts of the animal. Skin

2:24:50 certain choices, right? Certain fish have much lower mercury levels than others. And it's the So every fish has the same amount. Really? He goes, it's a very small amount. Yeah. They spend a lot of time in the low depths of the ocean where a lot of that stuff accumulates apparently. So there's been published studies on this and I don't know exactly how much it's affected

2:27:10 How much time is there left in the ocean for these fish? scientists predict that eight years is all it would take to bring it back to 100%, And not to mention, fish is the primary source of protein for the majority of the planet. Yeah, which is why. If we lose the ocean, we all die. It's crazy that we know I love sushi. It's the best favorite food in the whole world. I know

2:29:44 Yeah. I'm not saying don't eat sushi. Or how can you fillet that deer or clean that elk or whatever? I've never been so heartbroken in my entire life looking at an environment. First one seen in 30 years. Wow. They call them a Dracula monkey? I think. Yeah, I think that's our picture. And anyway, yeah. So we went It's just like eight, nine hours of driving per day, plantation after plantation of monoculture. One singular crop.

2:32:36 And so it's in tons, especially sweet food products. Wow. Look at that. and that's just for plantation. noises and crickets and bugs and bees and monkeys. i can't either yeah i don't like hearing that shit well for us still alive it's your book it's from the subject matter. Do more of it. And you're like, and COVID hit in March. People are really fascinated by the internet.

2:35:56 But we talk about wildlife news and what's Right there. I'm just trying to do all of it.