Joe Rogan Experience #1931 — Mike Glover Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day There's only a few other places you can go where you can get barbecue of that caliber. You know what the temperature is. It's the best. It's incredible, like, just the craftsmanship. Oh, it does great. So what's up, Mike Glover? Yeah. You went in one tank of gas. Well, it wasn't one tank, but it was, how did you do it? So the idea

2:59 essentially one tank of gas. We didn't, we had to run and prime fuel into the reserve from the rural montana or rural anywhere in america you roll with a 75 gallon tank in the back of your So originally, we teach canning and jarring at field It doesn't just fail, it breaks. A weird world. I'm 100% service-connected disabled. and reduce your disability. So in the military, if you're 100% total and permanent,

7:51 And then they go, okay, then you're 100% service connected disabled, total and permanent, which if they label me with PTSD and said, you're 100% connected because you have PTSD, the interview and they asked questions like, have you been in combat? Yes. Have you killed people? That was the psychologist evaluation. There's dudes who get blown up. There's dudes that go through a lot, but the reality is most

11:15 me he's like um so move your neck because mobility is a part of the equation and i couldn't move my again yes yeah yeah but just to challenge you on that that way i find that hard to believe yeah And I had a counselor who was a Vietnam veteran who lost his legs in and all these different things. None of those dudes got fired during all this controversy.

13:38 how many bodies you've seen. Some of these operations, like John Stryker-Meyer multiple combat tours and you got blown up. You still need treatment. You need care, the military to do kind of like the department of energy working,, working the power plants and security. It was like a security I had a bachelor's degree, and I was overqualified for the position, and I didn't get it. One of my buddies who was sitting on the board for that job said they thought it was high liability that I was

17:30 So if you're hiring someone to do security, so you're hiring someone to protect you from potential armed threats, So if you get too many answers on the questionnaire wrong, then you'll be labeled as somebody who has PTSD. Have you had nightmares? I don't have to worry about bills and drama with relationships. Do I have transitional issues? That shit's not going to work.

20:51 PTSD. We profoundly enjoyed our experience. There's nothing traumatic. I'm not shivering and it was a smack in the face teammates that I served with and transitioned into civilian life where everybody's worried Great book. Great sum up of the experience. I wish there was more, um, context, like he needs definitely seems to be this thing that happens to a lot of guys when they get out of the military.

24:47 the feelings that you have when you're training and fighting, I would imagine it's even far You're drinking beer. Cop security. You shoot, move, and communicate every day. They kill themselves. but they're doing all they can to bring back purpose into their life, to give back. Because There are some good nonprofits like Warriors Heart Foundation here in Texas with Tom Spooner.

29:17 guys, we should be thinking the same thing about setting them up for success and transitioning do you have at your disposal? So when you get out and your wife is upset because for the first time how to mitigate those issues how to calm yourself down or say anything. You just know they are hating on you. So everybody knows this in advance? I was really screwed up.

32:34 like it's like 13 hours in megazi does depict the job well and there are some accuracies there I was actually Tim Kennedy's boss, his J three sergeant major. And so I was going down range So I started the concept in Pakistan, I had $25,000 of big baller contracting money the next pickup truck, getting broke, and then coming back there's not a survival industry right right? If you think survival,

36:13 out there on survival psychology, by the way. John Leach described the reason people live teachers, people who are cognitive under stress in the moment and because a lot of guys they talk about things in you know the apocalypse the, the worst case scenario. What I wanted to do is kind of sum it up to We all had our kit on. with like 99.9% success rate of not having casualties on target. So the question would be, well, how can we do that?

39:50 culture, when you fight as part of your culture, when you look at the equipment and you pay So we needed to redefine that culture. We even teach people how to homeschool their kids. I mean, homeschooling your kids up until recently wasn't a thing. you teach how to homeschool your kids, like what are you using as a curriculum and like including ideas around self-reliance, like how to make a fire, how to build a shelter,

43:59 I knew it was a reality. do their damn job. So when this kind of evolved, um, I said, I'm going to start a group called No way to get it back. see if we can get our account back now that this thing's leaked? And they've determined I'm not Because they're saying, So you today are listed as a domestic terrorist. And myself labeled that as well. and how, you know, to treat wounds,

49:01 through some kind of agreement between Facebook and the FBI where In fact, I went out and said, Hey, as a organization, you should be concerned about taking care Instead of them showing, Well, a lot of the guys who were getting rolled up, they did, they were doing assessments of With your background, especially since they've already decided to label you.

51:26 They had pictures of me and a whole bunch of people in Heber City, Utah, where my headquarters is at. And dudes were blowing me up. or taking back your rights or storming the capital nothing zero all of it i've seen your shit all of down. And it Maybe we should have, you know, firearms or, you know, fishing poles, like fucking something. Yeah. You can't say like, what are you talking about?

55:06 Immigrant, well, she married my dad when my dad was stationed in the Army in Korea. When did this become a narrative? In November of 2019, after watching Bill Gates' documentary on basically COVID, So our thing was if you plan for the worst case scenario, by default, you're covering everything in between. That is not extreme. But when you Yeah, Ruby Ridge.

58:28 Like, at what level are they worried about you? the country. That was that, that dump snow rain comes in, it floods everywhere. But if people are dying, which dozens of people in that county in Buffalo, New York died, then us educating people on best practices and tactics on not dying should not be seen as extreme. let's say it's my market, crazy because the influence that you have is influence over people telling them how to take

1:00:56 I'd have him on. If you cut your let's say you caught your femoral artery in a vehicle accident and you bleed out and die and you could have done something about it. And why the fuck are you guys worried about me? The Taliban bought blue checks on Twitter. I really wish there was some way for you to not just get everything back. You both drink water?

1:04:50 get a blown out tire and you're a hundred miles outside of town you're fucked yeah like you're Yeah. Tell them the story behind it. developing a target packet on a bad guy, you would want to know the guy's background, right? That's So what would you do if you own property in rural anywhere in America, you hear gunshots, So long story short, they kill his wife as well. Shoot

1:08:48 does a call out and gets him to negotiate and then eventually gets him to surrender. I mean, we're seeing those things now. guy and I was teaching at Gritter Sports in Dallas, Texas a couple of days ago, teaching a pistol in a couple hours. And one of these dudes bought these hats. That's nice. But amazing support from Organization yeah, not as much with sheepdog

1:12:21 It's like, there's always somebody to try to shit on and we get up I had military guys go after me and say, why are you training civilians? Because I'm like, dude, one, I'm not that cool. You could build a fucking tesla like a homemade tesla Right. but it's difficult because most of the time, how many guns do you have? No one's coming to save you. that just doesn't make any sense. It's a valuable thing to learn. It's a valuable thing to learn it's a valuable thing you can choose not

1:17:03 Oh shit throwing stars and shit. Yeah, what remember that dude. He was always on the cover of Black Belt Magazine throwing stars and shit. Was it American of green berets they're studying the art of the time which is ninjutsu it's like the dark years this is uh night early 90s okay so this is like goes, uh, Mike, I want you to stand in that mirror. And I was, I stood in the mirror and I'm looking

1:19:18 know if it was like a tactic or whatever it was but i i actually learned a lot about myself in those many instances. I don't a shit ton of them. And they would And then Eddie saw him in the parking lot at a fucking supermarket. dude said i would i would have bought into it do you ever um go to a fake black belt.com or where they have this death touch on people

1:21:21 Like what is it about that death touch thing that it's so prevalent? Like a Pentecostal? And they brought up my cousin and I in front of everybody. fall next to him and we're laying at each other like looking at each other smiling I'm a dude Oh, my God. I think a lot of it is that peer pressure. if you have that but my instructors were legit they didn't try to you know give me any death

1:24:35 You can't question them. like you have to really believe that this dude is in touch with God. like you said, they want to believe it. there's no evidence or proof of what you said. And everybody's like, let's do this. I mean, Like, what? They formulated the plan. Like, you're sitting at a table and you're coming up with strategies. I saw a piece of paper and thought it was Nancy and I wrote her a note and I regret the whole thing.

1:28:06 And then there's that guy, Ray Epps, that famous guy who they show him at the Capitol telling people to go in. and they do stop people and then you have stuff If they killed him, like if social media existed back then, there would have been riots. Like, go out and get a Shopify fucking account. yourself to difficult circumstance, and then you adapt through adversity and you become more

1:31:05 It's not like there's no real evidence. You put me on a document to drop me on everything. I mean, I've watched a bunch of your videos and it's all common sense and really good knowledge and the way you lay it out. are likely to get worse with time. If you look at all the bad statistics, they're up. If you look at Homelessness. You've seen the homelessness epidemic

1:34:12 we're really talking about in disaster is catastrophe, which is just how you react or a sympathetic, nervous wreck, where you literally are in fight or flight smashing the steering wheel, So if you're not conditioned for low grade, It's like it's completely atrophied. Yeah. There's, I've studied this a lot and, and not just the When I went to ranger school as an 18-year-old,

1:37:30 want. You have to be able to perform. After that course, at the end of that course, when I got told it was like profoundly created a memory in me of, then you're awoken and you go, fuck, Oh, what do I do now? And you don't have the tools and you that you could just like leave alone and know it's always going to be there for you. It's just, themselves through so like normal difficult shit is not that difficult because it's not as bad as

1:40:23 You get a valuable lesson out of that There's nothing going on there. I do a stress shoot at the end of my classes. And a lot of people who technically train, I must be good at fighting. spikes to 150. If you're not conditioned, 170, 180, 190 beats per minute. That is going to feel So when they get up at 150 beats per minute, they're supposed to, as a baseline, be 150.

1:44:01 And then you walk away. Some of the guys who weren't trained in jujitsu would immediately go into a fight or cases, Uvalde, how it unraveled. And this comfort crisis when, uh, I started bow hunting. When you, when you experience that moment, when you, you shoot roof because it's an alien sort of experience it's a very new experience Yes. I'm fascinated by that shit in survival.

1:48:49 so you could fight for your life? Or was it when the Glock was put against the back of your head to be dead. He said when the shooter came in, he heard gunshots and he put himself in a situation And he survived. tainted. Bacteria, virus, not good to eat. And it wouldn't be beneficial for a predator to eat Well, why did I jump back? die. If I died, tell my wife I love her. Like, dude, that's a fucking, like, that's a gardener snake. You're good. You're not going to die. Like, oh, okay,

1:53:34 security. My buddy Kevin Owens, who works for me now, he's an accomplished sniper in Green Beret. a PKM machine gun opens up on my position. and he's in the fetal position. And I'm like, dude, speculate to disassociate the transition from So his mind just shut down. It's what I understand. So everybody is trained for the small unit tactics, react to contact in the woods in North Carolina.

1:57:16 So if you get overwhelmed by stress, it's going to crush you because you're going to americans And they'll do everything they can to create distance between that band of resilience and the helicopter on the way to go assault a target of foreign fighters, sleeping on the helicopter on the way to go assault a target of foreign fighters sleeping on the helicopter

2:00:25 kind of hanging out. I'm like, guys, can you fucking take a knee? And they're with night who put this stuff out. Dude, you gotta do that shit. Yeah, I'd rather donate money. freaking the fuck out of my head. I would be very narrow in my focus, not seeing my altimeter, I'm literally moving my hands, which is bringing awareness back into my body because I'm not

2:03:05 The second thing we could wrap that part up with just affirmation. the unique thing about confirmation bias is it's like this cell phone. If I pick up this cell phone So if we are thinking about that in psychological terms, in confirmation bias, we create the narrative. You could only partition your focus. Because that's how we collect the evidence. It's, it's what, it's how, it's how faith is based

2:05:13 That's a miracle of God. I'm going to do it. And if you go out in the world looking for that belief, you'll find it So what's the balance? to physical fucking movement. Maybe I need to reprior Do you see that from hunting? You're hunting. All the bullshit in your life is secondary. I think it's what's made me more resilient. Like I need to become better. and then you just keep showing up just keep

2:10:42 know I don't want to whenever if I had to take a day off, I was like, this is bullshit. they're always all their stories are they're the fucking man and they're the best. And it's like, man, you're going to fall. Like we're camping. like in this shitty hotel room I fucking stunk like a cadaver's asshole. So there's almost no pleasure to it. You need rain.

2:13:40 and through this experience training, they lose their shoes. They actually have to ground I mean, most of these guys are addicted to something and they need comprehensive inpatient care. One of the cup. When Americans get back from war, when Americans get through trauma, how do they share a checkpoint. We gave him warning shots. We gave all these tactics to mitigate risk to his life.

2:16:53 dude, that helped. I don't know why, but talking about it helped. And that's the benefit I think and yeah. And it's the opposite. It has the opposite effect. It's not cathartic at all. There was a point in time where a lot of people were very apprehensive about doing the podcast. Because in the beginning, everybody thought everyone was going to die.

2:19:13 I'm like, I did a few of those zoom ones. When you get 120 people in the room and they hear you talk about the thing, as it was what we call breaking bread. Sitting around, I hired a chef from Park City, Chef the one in five is diagnosed. It's the shit we're not paying attention to. The fentanyl systemic issue isn't just fentanyl. thing is you're building a tribe and you're providing community for people, which is so

2:22:41 I think the human mind is conditioned to overwhelm or to overcome You overcome together. that have that in their life But that's for people who have discipline, who have control. it's virtual, to the gym? I went to the gym because I wanted to be the best military asset I could be, but I That's it. But those aren't your fucking friends. or psychologists or people

2:26:49 yourself a weight to carry that's an unnecessary weight that doesn't make you stronger yeah it's And he's so in tune with it, but he sees daddy doing it. You know, he sees daddy picking up his phone. addictive personality. I've't have an addictive personality. Well, they don't have good control of their consciousness. I got to respond. And you've lost hours of your time.

2:29:19 but what's amazing is what's it's really amazing to watch their ability to navigate through computers and navigate through cell phones. Somebody was talking to me about it. of context because we want to know in the weeds what the actual truth is. But there are posts on becoming more and more puppets of the algorithm and people don't get it and they're not awakening.

2:32:51 I'm like, what? shit that are running this country. We have problems with algorithms, but we also have problems with bad actors that are utilizing social media are involved in this. And if you're online and you're engaging in this shit, you're susceptible. still stands by their action. take $2,500. PayPal eliminated us. in damages for spreading misinformation.

2:36:21 Like the lab leak hypothesis And I'm sure you saw when Rand Paul was grilling Fauci on whether or not they did do a gain putting out we don't like the trade it's a a risk to us. We're freezing your account. from, it's called, it's basically the bank channel from the bank to your e-commerce platform and Josh Smith from Montana Knife Company deals with us all the time if you have a knife and you advertise it on Facebook

2:39:38 The problem with it also is there's not any onboarding options. And there's billions of people on Facebook. The knife was sticking in a log, and it was talking about knives in survival, When if they had an objective look at what you do, they'd go, oh, this is not bad. I might be mistaken here. we'll support you. And that's the only reason we're open today as a business.

2:43:04 that we moderated with to allow us to kind of optimize the experience for the end user. Like, read the email. I don't know, militia or Mike Glover, domestic terrorist. This, this organization wrote this 20 page article and USA Today republished the article. What organization? Um, it's, it's, um, Let's, let's, let's blow this up. And I identify as an American first, but I'm Asian American.

2:45:12 done and then just remove it like like mike glover cia cuck or something like that because this shit, everybody's hitting me up like, I was like, well, I have this girl named Heather, who's a former West Pointer intelligence officer background, super squared away. I said to Heather, Like we do CBD products because I believe in cannabinoids and like I'm a hippie and I don't give a fuck about the fringes

2:47:49 from all these social media platforms and it would completely limit your ability to defend yourself My Instagram, it corresponds. And I'm appreciative of that. And I want to be a good advocate as a hunter for the hunting I said, okay, what does that mean? Because on the back end, it basically says I have all this history of extremism because of the association with the FBI thing.

2:50:38 it and you have zero strikes, no issues. If you have 10 strikes and 50 people report it, Al sent me the screen capture where they're like, we can't free up his American contingency account Yeah. And yeah, what, what will I be out? Yeah. I'll be out of business on social. Well, up until Elon bought Twitter was 100% the case. If you didn't go by this very narrow narrative,

2:53:23 the other way if it was going right if there was a right-wing person in the right in the white house It's insane. in outrage. They would be up in arms on CNN. They'd be up in arms on MSNBC. They'd be talking Yeah. who are middle of the road But right now it's like we're at war I'm a big YouTuber as far as like I like YouTube. next thing for education and all the stuff. But then all this stuff came out. I'm like,

2:56:54 are on education of that, and I appreciate your content for everything well thank you very much