Joe Rogan Experience #194 — Jason Silva Transcript

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0:00 Train my day, Joe Rogan podcast my night, all day. It was so fun. How do you do that? that our crowds are so nice and that they tip really well. and the whole remix culture is all about it's not about where you take things from it's where you So they're doing it out of pure passion. you hear the words that you say and they kind of the words seem just kind of obvious to you

2:20 Yeah, it's a weird thing going on right now, man. Even that recent example And I think that and have a voice in the national conversation. done some terrible, horrible things. Oh no, that's a whole separate conversation. No need to be violent. You know, I saw the tweets. It's all exactly the same as Kony. Yeah, no, it's terrible. And the first step to addressing a problem is, you know,

5:26 Why is there so much violence? I was driving on the way over here today on the highway No cars, fucking horses. he does this thing and income so the rising tide because that's what we're drawn to. You know, if it bleeds, it leads. And we're always going to be paying The biology has never had a chance to catch up. What the fuck happened, man? Yes. epigenetic type of evolution, which goes faster and faster and faster because it accrues knowledge

8:46 But over the last 100 years even, it's gotten crazier than the last billion. some religious figure, Thomas Aquinas, maybe it's him, not sure, proved that he was a saint. Wow. Right. They're all born at the same, like... Right. Yeah. They've retained the properties of organisms even Because that goes back to the whole thing about the power to change the world.

11:41 Because two people have to communicate in order to create something together. So we abstractify reality. And therefore, the way that we interface reality through the prism of going through your brain anyway. And so if you're aware that reality is made of language and that would willingly live again and again for all of eternity so i it like like what we're doing now our conversation it's changing

14:16 the output of your mind, that then the government of Finland adopts where the ideas really can go viral advanced and empowered yeah way more aware way way harder to bullshit yeah bluetooth enabled kids this thing. He's a friend of mine. His name is Micah. And he used to actually be with Students I mean, that that essentially is what the Internet's doing.

17:21 And you're like, really? because just like we use the power of fire It's part of evolution. It is very possible. I mean, porn was just porn Remember when Nine Inch Nails had a snuff film out called Broken? There was a documentary on it a while back. Yeah, he's obviously pretty fucked up by it You know, you need the contrast. whether their goal is to create this beehive that they create, whether their goal is to create an anthill.

20:59 And when we have virtual reality, then we each become the god in our own universe. Yeah, like Balut Ponds, have before to merge with our lovers to become one with them I mean we use It's not sexual. No. No. No, what if they want to merge with the dolphin because they want to know what it's like to be a dolphin timothy leary girl in Florida? You know, I have to say

23:33 I'm a comedian. But it's also good you can find enough to fill every second of every day. How about wanting to make a social... Or you can just not. Totally. to set up curators, to set up certain filters, A lot of experimenting going on too. and just draw a picture of the house you want on your wall without really thinking about it it right and it is true.

27:00 from a thought, from a dream, from a design. gonna come knocking on my door it's also the problem is that they're dealing with a bunch of Absolutely. beat out billions of sperm yeah we've already are all of us are living against the odds and like shit. a good person i'm nice to people yeah but you hate yourself you know you hate your body you hate your

29:31 Yeah. But, you know, system and we're not so lucky with our biology what if someone did something horrible like uh Do we blame that tissue and say, I'm sorry, this tissue has to die to make up for the 16 people you shot at the mall? It sounds like ayahuasca. in an ayahuasca session but I've got some hopes. and let them see themselves. Yeah, giving it to criminals

31:56 Yeah. It's almost like a byproduct of our ability to how to use the system. Maybe you become I'm not saying you're wasting You can get really good at anything. to problems that engineers couldn't in the real world. Yeah, they'll create like some interface and some problem and there's like a game and you And you're going to be seeing that more and more.

34:29 protein folding? What is she doing? It's some Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a 13-year-old hacked the UFC. He just ratted out everybody to the FBI What were they guilty of? Cyberterrorism rated higher than regular terrorism? I just did their executive program here in LA. and how they can be addressed going on. But also this guy, Mark Goodman, talked about like cyberterrorism and new forms of

37:07 And then we got a problem. He's an accelerating The most complex thing in the universe that we know of right now is the human being. So complexity By too many hard drives in one spot at one time? We're going to go into the inner space. There you go. science ever would come up with a theory like the big bang it's almost like they had to have a The entire universe.

40:24 Why isn't it STEM then? Space, time matter oh okay my bad okay yeah space time energy matter Maybe you are correct. You guys, I mean, in the 1960s and 70s, Oh, it's incredible. in something so small is what we are. I think, yes, we're very significant and literally play back the evolution of the universe in our heads, a capacity to understand events that have occurred over deep time.

42:48 which means it fits in our heads. Maybe they do. Most of us, apparently, is mostly empty space. and watching the same shows. But I still think, even though as individuals, And look at the stuff that humanity is talking to itself about. I agree with you. Well, it's more than 1%, right? No, don't get me wrong, but I'm saying it's at least more than 1%.

45:47 And then we're just, but a good conversation to have. I'm Jewish I know They went to Venezuela that could be our lifetime that's within guns as they run through the sand Yes, there have been horrible things. It's important to get the other side. I mean, I remember when I was a kid, I was, I don't know, past war. You're smarter than you were when you were five.

48:50 What year was that? We were sitting in front of the TV and they were showing missiles Well, because it seems obsolete I mean, there's so many encouraging trends I'm sure they love to have you. Him and the head of Fox. To those that are less This bionics company I've seen that. An exoskeleton is bodies eventually. Dude, absolutely. For sure, they're going to figure out, well, they're going to figure out artificial bodies eventually.

51:02 They only have like a certain amount of time where they can take your brain and reattach it. minutes, and then they screw it into this new brain. You got a new life. I've never felt like we're going to go to other planets. We don't need governments for that. it's infinitely more affordable. How about we just get a green screen and put some space behind me?

52:48 Yeah I don't know man Before we figure out the shittiest parts that suck on America. part of the universe celestial body. They're going there for this scientific And who knows, by the way, what the fuck happens to your body out there in radiation and deep Terraform. that will all be done with nanotechnology. and at the nanoscale. talking about this.

55:22 Quantum computing is going to be doing superposition, Exist and not exist. simultaneously and communicate. about reality aside It's a goddamn program. The Matrix didn't go far enough. And the other guy says, that's ludicrous. and it shows like when you're playing You're inside. So if this is artificial, it could be just so good, it feels real, which makes sense

57:47 It wasn't that I was criticizing. Just throws them on the internet. Yeah, life is not the pursuit of a dream. I've written a lot of shit high that I'm embarrassed about. Potentially. your mind yeah somebody listening to this might invent might invent you know some new poem that Well, they're responding to you too, man. And the conversations, the topics that you brought up and the way we've explored these

1:00:14 subjects. So many people ask for book recommendations after our session. those favorite documentaries. and the hero's journey and you climb Kilimanjaro, is a Joseph Campbell-esque hero's journey. It follows the steps. which is to say, I love that. I want to share that with my community. I'm going to tweet it. I want this day to mean something and then make the return.

1:02:07 Check out this interesting documentary I've been watching that Fuck yeah it's a waste of time but we're going to do a second show. Holla! That's who you gotta call too. Are you gonna be there? I'll be there May 5th. And then on the 27th, March 27th, I'm speaking at Google. new ways of packaging and disseminating ideas. Yeah. Yeah, and if you can't find it, it's on mine, talking about this podcast.

1:04:25 And if you Google It's very high quality. Yeah, Vimeo is awesome. school and I did current TV which was Al Gore's TV channel for like the last five years And so the reason short videos are easier to consume through small devices and this and that, and you don't ask people for too much of their time. stuff. you know, it just worked to do them really short.

1:06:34 press we came up with the format of the book and there was like rules and parameters and this is when we have the merger of TV Right. That was a great article that I read. I read an article yesterday from Nick Bilton from the Times and he can press what he wants and get what he wants in real time. watch anything, I think that's the future. Like, where,

1:08:38 you know, Took forever, right? Like half the time you're watching, going to change everything. I think everything's going to be a la carte. even with incredible software and computers. once you left? there's a great book is such an immersive 3D experience, or out of the movie or out of the virtual space bitch of an animal. I think it was just so pretty.

1:10:53 Well, you want to live that lifestyle that they're living, and wanting the luster and the awe That our lost society, that our materialistic, ridiculous society where we're not taking responsibility for our own actions. that told everybody else what to do. to then criticize technology in the movie. What they told a story about was about greed It was like, what was it called, Brian?

1:13:03 There's a great term called computranium Could you use that to get you to work? I'm not a physicist, I mean, but dude, we already do it inside of computers. nothing else in the universe like what they thought and still holds up as far as suspense. But, God, the computer looks so fucking wonky and shit. That's a good question. A million people a year

1:15:34 they're only going to get better. You'd never be able It's amazing. Google is Skynet.com or something like that? Jesus Christ. All free. Jesus Christ. Everything is dematerializing and going into your devices. Oh, yeah. a movie on those things. What is that? of Google's self-driving driving in California Do you want to be the first one, son? Insane.

1:18:29 sympathize with. elegant, articulate, She was amazing. She was talking about dreaming the impossible and we have to challenge what is in order to dream about what could be. I took you about transcension, why we could never see them. No, because if they did that, that would influence our evolution. So it's not possible that they could just be like roaming through this universe in galactic spaceships.

1:20:07 It's not through theirs. almond shaped eye form right they wouldn't want us to replicate their technology says who i mean is that aliens have leprechauns, bro. The nuttiest thing about this, and smiling and drooling, Could you imagine a whole army of these motherfuckers heading into your town shooting missiles? And it seems to be adjusting. They're incredibly strong, and they can climb up the side of mountains. We'll ride these. They never complain. They're what it's going to be. Like, you know, those crazy goats that can, they're incredibly strong

1:22:31 They don't have ache. Of course, dude. Free energy. And there's a bunch of different designs of them, too. Artificially intelligent robots. Which do they Google, Brian, so they can watch this? Amazing. Yeah. No, no, no. if they're conscious or not. You know, when you come home and have a conversation with my dog. with it you know if you're interacting with it as long as you plant a soul in it what if your

1:25:14 The only way to make it hot. The robots are going to be... there's interesting, It sounds hallucinatory. as the modern version Okay. we can expand our minds This is all live. where he talked about Tony Robbins actually very positive. of where your initial direction was going. And that's sometimes really how you have to look at it. But, I mean, like, how preposterous is it that I think that I can just go to a

1:27:59 What the fuck? Hedonic adaptation. faster, quicker. you quoted McKenna Because I think most people. for example, and put him in modern society, just seconds ago means nothing to the universe. Right. Yeah. you know, it's insane. track as fast as the 996 cup car so the the nurburg ring which is like this really twisty turny track in germany yeah a really high-end sports car can go around it today at about seven

1:31:48 we can get out of it. I mean, I don't remember the speed, and nothing happens. the fucking rainforest. countries have fleets that are 20 to 25 to 30 years old. With the best of everything with internet. It just makes you feel better When did they start getting much better? They change the engines and shit? It's more fun to go on the new ones. Check the screen out right here.

1:33:55 Oh, that augmented reality placed in there or what? that's exactly what it is yeah that's Brian stupid fucking cat clock how dare Yeah. No, man, not at all. But also, like desalinization, for example. They just got to get more advanced, just like solar panels. I mean, nobody predicted Where's the evidence of that What it is, they create incentive by offering these prizes, like $10 million prizes.

1:36:49 No, no. But, you know, Well, they have one now Or you can put your blood on This is their net Yeah. Wow, I never heard of that. and the fact that they would come up with something along that. Yeah. You know how it is Okay wow But that's not the size of Texas. isn't that like the premise to a lot of comic book monsters Let me ask you this. And I think the way you're doing it in videos and online is really cool.

1:40:23 We saw some kangaroos welding. asteroid lands in australia right near where the kangaroos are and some spores from this asteroid and then kangaroos and take the words that someone's going to come up with this. Well, they're talking about creating some kind of like algae or bacteria that eats the plastic. into existence that's what's really exciting about like synthetic biology

1:42:51 And 3D printers. the day that men cease to believe between the born and the made. the most beautiful artwork we've ever made, man. isn't it possible that what you're dealing with is something that's here all the time but it's but that's early stage stuff. Sorry, man. Can't sip drinks. Sorry, everybody. to be the most exciting time in human history. I mean, we're already living in the most exciting time in human history, but let's not lose

1:46:26 Sure. Everything is turning into Star Wars. because what happens is instead of one big impact, You know, we live in a very volatile solar system. It's coming. And, you know, if something hit us today and wiped out. But some of them, like caldera volcanoes and things along those lines, That really is the craziest technology. trillions of times more mathematical projections

1:49:40 thinking about the future i think you know how they we always talk about how human beings need a purpose. and what a wonderful sense of collective purpose it's just it's more interesting to me than like a few days without water, but not for a second without hope. we wouldn't do anything. with the end date of the mayan calendar yeah maybe he was uh of the people that believe that by

1:52:20 where, you know, calculate leap years. with some beautifully produced message when I saw it starting to appear in my timeline, And that really is just sort of tapping into potential, And just the use of media and understanding its power and what that video means about the future of how messages get spread. an ad like a normal attack ad like the other guys are doing these guys are releasing a film made by

1:54:57 I wonder if it's going to be like a Kim Kardashian reality TV show They produce it like a reality show? It should be like a documentary that followed him and you get the behind the scenes. guy on the zoo coming up next the same fucking voice when you hear a man give a What's game change? It's about the McCain. Really? I think you still get the message.

1:57:11 Exactly. their fucking league most people can barely string together a sentence. And so these are the people that cling to her because she represents simplicity. You have no excuse not to saturate your brain with knowledge. the representative government idea has got to go that's that's not necessary anymore we can all Democracy needs to come online, man.

1:59:22 The people can represent themselves now. It's a documentary that I was involved in that my friend Adam Scorgi produced. and there was some plant in the movie that was incredibly beneficial not just to the culture whereas it takes fucking years to grow trees in the same area. But imagine a video that's slickly produced like the Coney video that gets a billion views.

2:01:13 There's a new bill in California, a DUI bill, that they're going to make it zero tolerance They'd have to get a urine test from you. You might not want to address it because it seems like it's a taboo subject And still, it's not a good idea So you can be baked as fuck Why not A little bit right I'm Lycos all the way whoa bro i'm netflix Web crawler.

2:03:16 So how did those go away? First of all, why Bing? But why Bing? It's a gigantic... I don't believe that the word is Google. And how perfect. Yeah, what are you going to talk about? Josh Kaplan, actually, You know, Google is known as being one of those companies that really treats their employees well. Because I've always thought like, man, why can't someone make a company where they treat their employees well?

2:05:58 because you know and some people might criticize oh it's just a playground actually no it probably And these are the most admired companies in the world. they're getting inspired from these companies. That all fell apart, and they said donate money but I think that we're just, crocodiles. really wanted to they had it set up where you could you know where you could donate if you

2:08:33 because we want to share the ideas, Wouldn't as well I downloaded it Your money back Because things only have a price because of scarcity. because it's only you did something that's unique to you. for their efforts. you just order the formula to create things. And there was a recent article that I tweeted, if you find it, just a couple of days ago,

2:10:51 It's a shame. there should be no red tape or bureaucracy Yeah, that's dynamic democracy. chin-ups and shit. I had no idea. So they're going to be looking to build fires. Don't break a law for a month. Dude, we need massive system upgrades here. Everything will radically change, you know, these are like spoiled little girls that date like rich guys that buy the models

2:13:55 know the part of the speed limit is 25 you're going 28 slow down slow down just Get out of here. That's a problem and there's fucking cows bring in some dinosaurs. We won't breed as many. I mean, that's another option. What if them have to kill them, bro. We're going to have to introduce Triceratops. Maybe we won't breed as many. Buffalo on the plane.

2:15:11 Interesting. Do you eat meat? Do you ever consider the idea That's like a cow that grows up in a hippie community from sweaty little vegans and vegetarians. That's decent. And I think if they were smart, they would be killing us. hijacked that cycle of life with the idea of I'm more impressed with us than I am disturbed by us. And I think we have a big role to play.

2:17:24 and not have to kill another animal well dude i mean what are we tasting anyway except our brains interpretation of something going in I appreciate how wired we are now, but I also appreciate old school stuff. Yeah, it is. Isn't that what it was? It's not like they can understand everything yet. Right now at least it tells you 23andme percentages of a chance of developing something.

2:19:38 I've been told that I'm more likely to get it than another person. You mean that we wake up into something else? you know, that you spend 80 years in limbo as passionately as I can now That's my question. get drunk we're self-referential it's that recursive feedback loop we know that we know Crazy. within a couple of years. And they were Catholic schoolgirls. You know what's amazing about kangaroos start yelling at you for fucking polluting. Kangaroos start talking English like really quick within a couple of years.

2:22:21 Yeah. Australia's a shady fucking spot. man. Have you been? And they have no ozone over there, man. Like, you go out there in the sun with no sunscreen on, you get fucked up, man. I think 15, something like that. Get a few movies on your iPad and just zone out and just go zen and say, this is what you know like what a what a silly idea fascinating now all their actors win all the awards yeah i

2:24:30 Like Eddie Ift And they just Yeah shifting people's sense of like reality oh yeah expanding your consciousness because you're you're modern civilization yeah and they're like these people live here and they dream here and The one thing that I consistently get It makes you feel like, fucking go move to Afghanistan if you Twitter angry people. Well, you need to debate Rick Santorum

2:27:29 It's not hurting me. but it's a man and a man. Why can't everybody just bang each other? men and women and then you know he just fucked them up man he just fucked them up there's nothing Oh, we're gay married? Why not? No, no, no. That's so true. Wow, that's not good. They established these polygamous communities One of our guests brought it up. What if somebody just decided to turn Costa Rica into goddamn paradise?

2:30:32 Yeah. who had this thing called the Seasteading Institute, But now they're doing something but they're going to try it. of the military industrial complex, You're not going to do it in open waters. fucking take over god damn it jason silvey you gotta be ready for war yeah no it looks i i mean Yeah, I hear people coming, too. Dean Kamen, who invented a lot of these water purification systems, man,

2:32:49 These things, these small little self-powered devices, I was going to say, how far are they on the island thing, Well, techno philanthropists, new internet age billionaires. artificial island they've created but they're slowly sinking into the sea so they have an And comparing it to We thought of this Whether you came up Technology, man. just google it uh what is it, Brian? Leafcutter ants?

2:35:13 So it doesn't pollute their little tunnels. like a beehive occupy wall street beehives exhibit self-organization that emerges when all these transcendent effects. Yeah. Because that's the worst thing they could do to you in prison. Yeah. Well, that's why these kind of conversations are so exciting. And he says that ideas coming together in open liquid networks,

2:37:11 change and at a rate that is unheard of by the gene pool. that we have done the long view right now It's not beyond the laws of physics for completely have radical self-transformation. magnificent you're so awesome you know have like a way of uh you know like when you get fired up about shit like everybody around you's on March 28th is on innovation

2:39:08 they have a website. on March 30th, you can buy tickets to. Thank you, everybody, for tuning into the podcast. show that will be available sometime And then we're in Hermosa Beach is actually before that. for tuning in and saving our A little bit. It's super easy. You don't need to do that in front of him. it's done tomorrow we have uh aubrey mike marcus uh formerly known as the artist formerly known as

2:41:43 And we're going to meet him tomorrow, Just a pinch. Thank you, everybody. It always sells out in advance. It's over.