Joe Rogan Experience #1949 — Russell Brand Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience And the graffiti has changed in the city of LA. people in the space that i work in have moved out of there and there was a feeling of uncanniness Do you know that in our country during the pandemic, in London especially, but also in that the pandemic had leveled out, and causing ruckus. I feel like that the anomaly was the housing

2:58 I'm sure that comes with complexity. All of these things were the periphery of my limits as a drug-using young man, areas in my life i'm sure it could have happened to me of course it could have but there was a sort or, you know, like they should be excluded from society. In the end, we just got a taxi to nowhere. Like, you know, when you have people on here like Graham Hancock

5:36 or living a post-apocalyptic lifestyle in contemporary America. It's so temporal. Yeah. So the height of our technology is directly connected to what's essentially slave labor. I saw that episode. It's very, very it's inspiring that a person is that selfless and can make that sort of a commitment and risk their life and go to a very dangerous place and expose this because he's a real journalist, like a real boots on the ground journalist that wants to show the world some things that

8:17 and then even if that was if you imagine well what would justify that it could only be if we the mastery and the geniuses then what kind of ideology is that what kind of Well, we have in some areas of our life for sure. I think it's a very strange time where I don't think people have a lot of faith right now in institutions. cronyism and a lot of undercover deals and a lot of like no bid contracts with halliburton and

11:28 bods. What's happening is there's this risen American project. we sort of It's very wild. who isn't sympathetic who anyone that's got a family or love someone is sympathetic to the idea that corporate and financial interests that there's palpable evidence for that and in order to not acknowledge that that transition has taken but something extraordinary has happened when people that say that they're you know we're the

14:31 it's extraordinary that those conversations don't happen. did, And people aren't, it doesn't seem that the culture Well, the lab leak theory, that's the best one. They were demonetizing his YouTube videos and going after him and all They're not saying, I believe in this and this is how we should organize culture But like you said, Weinstein was like,

17:13 I read some of it I've been listening to it He got that voice issue from a vaccine injury. But one of the side effects of the flu shot is people develop some sort of problem with their vocal cords. And then in the beginning of the pandemic, he was trying to connect COVID with 5G. And he thought they were trying to take away people's guns. and I thought it was the craziest thing I'd ever heard.

20:23 to your social credit score system. And you step out of line, you won't be able to buy things. You won't be able to travel. You won't be Policies that come out under the Republicans are pursued by the Democrats. because the thing is is that the the cult the way that we're behaving at the moment is all underwritten Now, like, you know, so the times that they are accurate or correct, you know, like even because if you think of the way that you were framed around the pandemic period, it's like I has far right.

23:26 me because my background is not a journalist it's not a conventional education i'm sort of open to the more extraordinary exciting visceral ideas which once in a while prove to be true like the And then the commercial power comes and the financial power comes. is a drug that has had billions, literally billions to the people that give them exorbitant amounts of money in advertising revenue and they fucking

26:29 they didn't and then they changed my filter and turned me yellow on television like they took the hot button topics in this country in particular around the pro-life, pro-choice and guns arguments. that the assumption was that you would be sunk And that also, in order to make themselves Like, you'd be in your family around your table. Far-right means

28:35 as far-right. and stuff like that. No one's doing those. that kind of piety and certainty? And the way that they were like outraged by it was astonishing, has afforded people access to a variety of news sources he said like this speech Ukrainian people are brave. We've got our agenda. they're saying is dangerous and harmful. and i think somewhere along the line, when pharmaceutical

32:06 company whatever your company made your company makes peanut butter and that peanut butter killed It killed somewhere between 50,000 and 60,000 people, and they had to pay somewhere in the range of $5 billion in fines. lose credibility because when you do replace it for something like peanut butter it makes it it are highly susceptible to hypnosis and similarly highly susceptible to placebos.

34:17 is a good thing. That authoritarianism can tell you that big farmer is a good thing. to have maintained in spite of the edifice cracking open. And how cheaply could that have been done? Now, the people that are in the outreaches and some of the people in the comments below will talk about, no, the whole thing is staged. regardless of which party is in power.

37:26 revelation. We spoke to point and in 2002 it doubled again. is going to radically alter with more power being devolved, more democracy with more ability to run their own communities with more Going back, editing books. Stuff that we've seen in dystopian sci-fi actually happening. He likes liberal democracy. the second one, the Arab Spring, the Occupy movement.

39:43 Even new elites will emerge that understand how technology works. disinformation on just a vast But it's like, yeah, I'll send it to Jamie so we can play it because it's so crazy like what they can do now. It's just how long before it's absolutely impossible to detect. the people that own these enormous tech companies or even at all. confusing and there's going to be narratives that like if you're an inclusive person that believes

41:57 have him doing things that he's never done before fucking booty i've ever seen god damn that shit The most alarming thing is that that's a really cohesive sentence from Joe Biden. He's got person who stole all the women's clothes that sam brinton we highlighted on the podcast yesterday So let's hire this person. What they've been able to do is introduce contentious issues to the forefront of the

44:26 a career politician, about those ideas. And even if they do deeply care, and say that they're far-right fascists anymore than you they've got us in these ideological I expected more people to ask about the data. Because pregnant women, if you like, what data do you have on pregnant women? Because pregnant women, if you There's so many different things but yet this vaccine with zero testing on any pregnant

46:59 have tested this on. Hey, hold in countries like mine and yours where it was assumed that that wouldn't happen i remember I'm willing to, like, you know, when my wife is sick or whatever, I'm calling, you know, suddenly the Reiki ain't an option no more. of fear i mean what does that do to us biochemically what how more like you know fear control tactics that they used in the last couple of years, they're going to do it again.

49:48 Like stop forgiving people who are scared, who made mistakes. I suppose this is where it's a requirement to have some genuine values But of course, you can vote for whether you want your city to be a 15-minute... I would have to say globalist organisations organizations to assert political influence over nations. how ineffective the vaccines were and about how the virus wasn't as bad as we thought it was

52:18 is really good at monopoly. And that was why they went after Microsoft so many times for monopolistic practices. trading thing it's like jesus christ it's right Like you knew. And so you did that and sold and you did that It's like a not-for-profit organization is making profit, an incredible amount of influence in areas that he profits from, all sorts of peculiar business practices like in India and on the continent of Africa

54:18 And they had to stop doing it because it was actually giving kids polio. it's not as simple as that you can't just give people the patents and stuff they but it seems stuff you got you brought printed piece of paper what has this been like for you as a person to in conventional entertainment as well how much compromise that comes with that you have to

56:47 It's exciting. So I've always had those kind of conversations. And I suppose what it must be is because where I'm coming from, I come from a place called Essex, which is like the New Jersey of England. It's not really who I am. any aspect of that profession i like stand-up comedy because you live or die on your own merits because shoplifting and because of possession of drugs. So I've always had that kind of

59:26 just didn't feel right for me we started doing the stuff and like the guy i work with gareth who's like then with the war narratives and the things that's happening now so it kind of grew quite So it's not edited. and I've seen you watch on this show, with the Ukrainian government jokes like that locals which we're going to release like you are you're investigating the person if you get someone on here that you're interested in

1:03:04 mocking it openly while you're talking about these obvious connections between finances and rules and You start to recognize, like, the thing I did near the beginning, and work and we'll make more current affairs oriented stuff and what's good about like the Like, so it was a pretty minute error. you still can't say it. So there's an obvious hypocrisy, even in organisations,

1:05:42 And it gets corporatized and regulated and controlled in a different way. the best way is a self-censor or how do you get people to self-censor? You impact them economically. But 25% was a lot. Yes, but there may be. Of course. this is the content, okay, well, we can try that, But it was like they were doing things, This is what Rumble were fundamentally offered.

1:08:50 It's nuts. tendency towards suicide of former associates of powerful american families i mean you know i went with what you would call cultural left-wing positions, And one of the people that I'm working with said, in the literal sense of anarchy as in self-governing communities as much democracy as fluid or and i think if you sort of say yeah do what you want in your community then isn't that the only way that this is going to be diffused you can't

1:12:05 enmity and people say oh you've been red-peeled or whatever but I've never trusted the establishment and when you see him attacking the establishment, like when populism first emerged, populism is regarded as its right wing. That's what it is fundamentally. But you can't really have. Populism is regarded as, it's right wing. People can't just be like

1:13:22 I think if you're happy life. And you find it from the weakest people. The physically, morally, ethically weakest people different styles of just sexual orientation and monogamy and polyamory. some regulations or give them some rules on things, I always talk about how badly I fucked If we don't stop doing that and just let people figure out what makes them happy.

1:16:39 Fucking do whatever you want to do. But you've got to leave everybody else alone. there's too much racism. And if you're on the right, you think that we got to close the borders in recovery, then I have to be kind. I'm normally suffering because I'm not taking care of myself. before and we talked about hunting i goes yeah i'm a vegan and i just wouldn't be able to kill

1:20:07 They're like, in some ways, what happened in... People respond to that. That's the problem is people they they feel insecure they get told Yeah. And a leader is fundamentally behaving as a father. And like you said, with the new AI revolution, And I suppose the thing that I believe in that might diffuse this because i feel that It's already ramped up and considerably ramped up during the pandemic because of all the anxiety and the fear.

1:23:14 Like, you could see yourself falling into all those same traps. You can, us all in danger completely illogical because you're doing the right thing which is to protect Van der Bosch talked about that. That the problem is the unvaccinated. Because these other people weren't listening. And because they weren't weren't listening there was variants and the variants are now going to get

1:25:45 So that's the modality. And let's profit off these people dying. I think that's what they did with many, many different ways where they could justify making enormous amounts of profit I also heard a person, Yanis Varoufakis, he was like the lead, one of the leaders of Syriza, when after 2008, Greece had some wacky moment where they elected an extremist party, left wing extremist party, actually, you know, considered extreme, that said, we're not paying back all of that banking debt.

1:27:19 said that he realized that the person at the EU that he was talking to didn't have any power. but the system is self-sustaining the will is delegitimized i mean it was during the bush administration mean, it was during the Bush administration, it was the right. During the Bush administration, all the fears about election tampering were about It's like the Democrats are stealing the vote.

1:29:42 That's the old Bill Hicks joke. And so everybody doesn't know what to do. And one of the things that was spoken about in the pandemic was, oh, look, they had this agenda anyway. It wasn't well done. I feel like that the credibility took its biggest hit in 2008 when the banks were bailed out, and Trump and they're the only people that are attacking is a broad alliance and a willingness of people

1:33:21 Exactly. and not a famine mentality, not to have this mentality that all the success has to come to me I want you to be happy. And you're just like at the throats of the people that are different than you because somehow or another diminishing them you think is going to empower you. And it feels like, yeah, that many of us have been parasited in our minds,

1:35:51 of sort of spiritual people have been disadvantaged definitely there have been biases and prejudices in a particular might and their and again with their as you cited earlier their ability to create exploitation and where people have more time to create truly reflective culture where the kind of the tropes brilliant philosopher he's dead now mark fisher he was off the left he he coined the term capitalist

1:38:55 crisis military industrial complex that profits when it's a war pharmaceutical companies that That we are profit driven. And especially if they can find some sort of way to justify these horrific acts, that's where we find ourselves. Not one step of the way. things that you wouldn't typically think would sit together kind of culturally the maharishi said do what you know to be right don't know don't do what you know to be wrong

1:42:15 These are the conversations I want to have. And then the next day I'll have some world traveler on or some guy who likes to climb mountains or some person who's walked around the earth. and most people are fairly curious yes you know and i think that when you just put something he's going to tell me that too. I'm really flawed, prevented it from ever

1:44:57 Yeah, I'm wondering Do you want it? And you're a good person. They enjoy it. like someone like Seymour Hersh And like we should just do whatever Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and the military. That's where the authentic... he's untouchable he's untouchable and he never gets whispered at in the dead of night apparently all the bridges burned I reckon than you

1:47:10 it anyway lovely people but difficult times for me personally because i guess it's just not a good I don't give a fuck anymore. want to do from now on. I'm just going to pursue the things I enjoy doing and hopefully I can make that's always been available to me like no fuck that stream like that stream and obviously also where I don't have to listen to anybody.

1:49:48 And he's just ranting and raving like, my God, you, Russell Brand, are doing the thing that thousands and thousands of independent YouTube content providers are doing. I reckon I felt like probably as a kid craving acceptance, you know? Sometimes I see one of those things on the TV, That's part of what's going on, And also, their format is so limited that even if they did it wouldn't even shine through

1:52:18 would i do if i was the head of a pharmaceutical company how would i stop i mean if i was already but I know that you would never have that conversation on CNN. And people will allow you to lie. our lives oh it evolves a little bit they always look more or less the same the background looks Pfizer back there. They can't that they exist of the zeitgeist.

1:55:02 going on. There's something that transcends all physical reality addict but I would like to know. Because the thing is, I really, really want to. So beyond like all that stuff, I was aware that this was profound. They're also looking for escape. They're right. This is a from the anxiety of being alive it argues most of all and it's like an ingenious piece of american theology really i would say the

1:58:51 a much more formative and egoic have to address that problem and when you're going to have to address that problem. But more important than that is, That dude was out there. I mean like he's a prophet, Like the guy was a stockbroker, apparently a womanizer. How do they know what it's going to do in 10 years if you haven't had fucking 10 years? I've been given something that's

2:00:47 This isn't reality. And there are other dimensions. Or fuck it. But why do you think you would do that? No, I've never taken cocaine, but I do get addicted to video games. stop because I'm not interested in doing anything that's detrimental to me I I'm not interested in doing anything that's going to tank my life. But I did have there and i'm going to trust that what i've got to say it's like this fucking weird idea that

2:04:16 like i was that was my religion i found martial arts at a very young age and so discipline became through that path You've got to understand it. It's a difficult thing to start when you're 40 years old and I don't have an athletic background. now have an understanding of moves. That's not just a beginner's understanding. Like, you know, more moves and became more consistent and then trained more and then got a better understanding of what to do and what not to do

2:07:23 That's, you're in the great divide. to the idea of not being crushed under somebody's shoulder and like you know when you sort of as myself it feels good to articulate and physicalize something that for me as a quite cerebral man first time i got even as a white belt, It shouldn't have happened. And just trying to wreck reconcile reconcile this desire to learn this thing

2:10:11 and knowing they can't do anything to you like if i roll with some white belt and then they kind of And the, life because the regular life out there in the world is nothing compared to some big guy sweating that are like jujitsu in this life we would have been in our bodies like that. God, with the UFC, how many people know how to fight today? and strangle you unconscious in the middle of the road.

2:13:04 It's a menace in the highway. you spar full blast all the time you're gonna get brain damage pretty fucking quick you really are shows that the underlying thing is a camaraderie and that this is a collegiate thing that we're undertaking together. had a girlfriend that was an aristocrat she had rolling estates it was amazing it was like falling when someone comes into the environment that exhibits those traits that it's

2:16:27 the body to work together because the mind has to control the body while the body is screaming to No, no, no. path, even though it's hard to do, which is so important in life. So many times in life, either you have orthodox spiritualities that tend to be patriarchal, and psychedelics, you start to recognize, I certainly wouldn't comment on any of those things and how they might play out.

2:19:38 That's a foolish version of it that is set up for children. If you don't, you're not going to trust yourself. There's so many people out there that don't do that. There's nothing real. They'll say that a war is humanitarian when we know that most likely the imperatives are economic imperatives. Like, you know, like the Ivermectin moment. It's like, oh shit, what you said there, the mainstream don't like that.

2:22:34 eat healthily, that wouldn't typically be getting, I would say, such nuanced takes on complicated ideas. There's so many people out there that are they're motivational speakers and meanwhile it's getting off drugs becoming a stand--up comedian, or accomplishing stuff in a martial art, that might bring you financial success, because God knows there are other ways of succeeding

2:24:50 And so many people are just stagnant. more discomfort. You don't realize that in embracing discomfort and forcing yourself I'm always exhausted. whenever I'm on vacation, the first thing I do is work out. I'm like, I got to do this. Otherwise, And this is just a natural part of being a human being, every human being. or numbing activities like screens or narcotics,

2:28:09 then almost every individual has to have like, What you are as an individual is the most important thing Someone's not wanting to, to call someone else Similar to you, I'm not good on vacations. Are you being paid enough here? Like with like a butler guy. I had to do all sorts of stuff just to keep myself together. it's like it's it's good for you it's good for you and it's like people have associated physical

2:30:59 There isn't just one ideal that we can all conform to. Yeah. He was one of the first people that told me about like jumping in ice baths and all that. But it's not even aggressive. because there's no way I can know, It's like having this ability to distract yourself. And I really think you should do all of them. Caffarella. And I was always scared of him because he was, uh, he would take cold showers

2:34:12 want to get in a fucking cold shower now i do it every day like now i i get in that freezing 200% and norepinephrine it lasts for hours and it's like so good for you work or life and whatever, just force yourself. You'll be better off. I like the things that you are mandated to do because of your work or life and whatever thing you know like i did a reality show i said they must have been cutting all sorts of shit

2:36:40 I don't think there are serious reasons Yeah. If enough people's interests coalesce around that, that will become the culture. Kali Yuga, that we're in the grossness, the darkness. breath work the clinical trials from our culture how the profession on the show. me since I read it because it says, this is things like death and resurrection, transcendence of levels, awareness of different dimensions.

2:39:42 usually connected to plant medicines, and resurrection particularly agricultural religions need their god to die go into the example and uh like even alex jones as we're discussing the evangelism is trying to bring comes from Calvinism and Lutheranism. Italy, France, and Spain, where they're still Catholic. is because it's dealing with the same forces.

2:42:26 for a different perspective? or you're going to sleep in the street without some personal relationship Yeah, there's faith in that. metrics, ways, lenses for observing the miracles of nature and the cosmos. But when they start to How much of the information is released? And I think at the level of global corporatism, bypassing national sovereignty,

2:44:40 because the stuff I talk about, you know, And I sometimes think, fuck, am I wrong? Am I wrong? this is the slow grind oppression and centralizing of all resources at a level that's totally Or even how are you going to participate in challenging and even overthrowing these systems shamanism is a good one because it predates monotheism. It predates nationalism.

2:47:26 they're encouraged to be wonderful most of the time and we're all capable of being shitheads forgive people, not just for them. You also do it for yourself yeah that's principles you've described and i care i'm not mad that they were wrong i've've been wrong before. There's no value in extracting a big cultural apology. I'll wrap it up on this if you want to,

2:49:08 a group of scientists signed an open letter Obviously, there's references in that book, And there was phone calls at midnight, like, get near your phone. Who the fuck talks like that? He wants chaos. Yeah, it's just like... sending money to thousands of doctors and organizations he was the head of all that like negative aspects Did you hear them talk about that obesity drug that they're sort of pushing now that there's

2:54:10 brand names for it. You know, but that doesn't sound good to me. one thing I liked is that, you know, uh it's a terrifying book if it's accurate you know and i'm waiting for someone to accurately Yeah. But that's being healthy. That's not normal. it's not as exciting you know there's the thing about conversations on podcasts where you're single day on rumble where you can access right-wing conspiracy theories uncensored.

2:57:35 It's been a big change.