Joe Rogan Experience #1950 — Derek Wolfe Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience That is so fucking big, dude. I wrestled heavyweight. I love those guys. and just drop to a single, bring him down. Imagine a 265. So I had double hip surgeries. It was miserable. so I sprawled out to play the cut block, Oh, my God, you must have been terrified. you're going to be fine. 12 weeks later I was playing good football still somehow 12 weeks later I had a seizure.

3:40 I didn't let it heal. Oh, God. Yeah. That's why guys play hurt and play banged up. to stay but the team doctors were like you're good we can go team doctors are savages oh my god is that's going on it's like I disassociate from it and I guess just make it through great skill But if you think about the position, i would say you got there playing pussy you're gonna get fucked that's just the way it goes what is the average

7:03 it's enthusiasm too guys lose that that fire that made them a savage in the beginning. If you're not a top ten pick in the draft in the draft and you're not really making life-changing Jason's going to be the best center a little reckless you have to be yeah same with fighters i don't want a fucking boy scout It's just the way it goes. No. shit right you know and it's just you can kind of see it when you meet a guy he's just fucking

9:36 Like he came to work dressed professionally, right? Everything about him was professional. And then there's the sport itself, which, I mean, just the amount of impacts you guys are taking on a regular basis. If I was going to do anything, it was going to be boxing. Trevor's a wild dude, but he's also a genius. of there with power. So I was just and it just like took my fucking pass rush to another level that makes sense you know if you learn new skills like that like you know vasily lomachenko

12:28 Look at him. in terms of footwork. Because it's like you're really watching him dance. and he's fighting these bigger guys, but he's really like a 130-pounder. It's your base. And it's like a fourth of an inch's play. It hurt so fucking, made me want to throw up. I was throwing up in my mouth because i was grabbing at it and fucking pissed my own teammate he didn't mean to him it's not his fault but it was

15:27 Before games. Yeah. I would like get myself pissed off. Well, I was like 300 pounds then, you know? Oh, my God. I was like 300 pounds then you know oh my god i was like try to explain that to people people conor mcgregor's a fucking asshole the things he says You know, it's funny. Unreal. Yeah. It's the most, he's got a golden shower. some of the like antiques and shit he's got in there too like he's got the hammer they

18:50 Because if I was going to sell somebody a hammer, I'd be like, bro, this is the one Like, that guy could tour to the end of time. Nashville, yeah. It's incredible. It's beautiful. He's like the highest point in Nashville, too. Yeah. five-star resort in there how about the view off of his fucking back porch to the nashville yeah to so I had to look up to those guys in a way they just didn't give a fuck and I was like

20:42 beat the shit out of me like for fun like that's what If he was in a bad mood and I had my fucking mouth open even looking at him, But when people are like, you're fucked up, I'm like, well, what do you think yeah what do you think's gonna happen when you fucking treat a of intimacy was you know my mom I slept in an in the attic you know in this Did a bunch of treatments.

22:34 Yeah. There's things that people know. So I have a feeling we have no idea what kind of information is stored that passes on from your genes. Like where's this ability? And maybe when someone has a seance or some shit and, you know, they tell a story about a past life, maybe that's in there somewhere. fuck kind of instinct that is but that's like in his system

24:47 Because my daughter has a chihuahua Like that's a rat. like they were feeding them and they would keep them safe from the other wolves yes that it was The evolution of dogs. Like how is that? Yeah. I guess it makes sense, right? When you hear the history of us. killed off all the fucking other ones right yeah Like you were talking last night about how you have Neanderthal in you, right?

27:37 I mean, I think when you're dealing with like Neanderthal mating with Homo sapiens- Genderless. I think there's part of it with men. Sports were invented by dudes practicing to hunt. So that's why there's like this deep spiritual connection We got off on a tangent. and i'm like what the fuck you know because I was like releasing this trauma that like because the body keeps the score, man.

30:22 Whoa. This is before I ever did any kind of ancestry DNA shit. you're in a dream i felt like i was in a fucking dream are your eyes closed no your eyes are open Like you felt this, I could feel it. I could feel it. It was like I was doing it. And then when I This was all in this experience? I was like, this is fucked up. Of course. Look at you. Look at you. I came from Scandinavia. a movie right so i was like let me do some dna fucking scandinavian all the way through of course

33:37 There's some that's it. The technology stuff? And it makes me wonder, I mean, when people do have those past life dreams, I've looked into this heavy one time. ship I think they were on this guy like he died in a plane crash he was shot down he was having life you bury those in your subconscious yeah right so like when you're i think it's what from this is the doctor dr ian stevenson it's still going on the studies are

36:33 such as telepathy, apparitions, easy to dismiss those things so easy to dismiss it but the human mind and it's just ability to knowing where you came knowing where i come from right because i didn't know what that i don't know anything could you imagine being alive during the viking times oh Imagine how fucking scary that was. It's a pretty fucking cool.

38:37 It's not modernized in any way. It's just a... What an amazing time. Imagine what that was like. Oh, yeah. hear it imagine if you said that to one of these guys they'd be like you fucking pussy swinging axes. I mean, it kind of, like, faded off into... Norsemen known as the Vikings undertook lifting champion guys and like like uh like the mountain yeah like how are they how's everybody

42:08 revealed that a man around 172 centimeters tall, If you were a fucking... If you were... If you had to die, those are the ones that just It's like, that's all that is. have the guys in Iceland, you got guys like you, and they were eating fucking muskox They used to do it's like you didn't really mind that they were getting murdered well everybody was fucked up

44:32 disasters probably comet impacts around eleven thousand eight hundred years ago cultures and that's what we have yep and that's really when you see the vikings when you when you Okay, Ancient Apocalypse. And Graham's is, I believe it's seven pieces. It's fucking great. Like you feel it? It's like, what is this, a fucking power station? dead pharaoh inside of one of those things no i don't think there's any real indication that it's a tomb.

47:34 I looked into that recently. and they would unwrap mummies in front of their guests yeah it was like an english thing right uh even if it Well, the Nile, yeah, but I'm talking about right next to the pyramid. It used to be like a jungle. This is not that long ago but this when they're talking about the dates of the pyramids one of the the first uh pieces of

49:57 It's really nuts. These things are like 15, 20,000 years old. Yeah. what's underneath that city right because what was there before them if you want to if you don't Fuck, man. Was it 100,000 years ago? I mean, think about the difference between 100,000 and a million. Yeah. I think they had some completely different technology. hit during that period of time.

52:59 civilization out yep froze people frozen have you gone there yeah it's weird right it's fucking how people are living closer to volcanoes more and more and that it's a fucking mistake i think it's There's a great video of Hawaii. That's a bad spot. Look how amazing that is. Dude. Have you gone to Lanai? No. I only going to take the kids and the wife over there. Have you gone to Lanai?

55:15 I haven't done spearfishing, but I heard that's awesome. world yeah and i have no chance yeah it's not a good spot not a good spot to be but uh lanai is So people don't really kill sharks. Look how many fucking sharks there are. alright I'm good for a few hours. Yeah. They tell you about surfing. I mean, like, I've been rocked by a fucking 10-, 12-foot wave, you know,

57:29 And then you watch him on the surfboard like how the fuck look how big that wave is like if that comes down on you you look like a little speck it looks like a building it I could really fucking die out here. there and freeze and he'd go but i got you know just sitting there you'd see fucking deer come close was, to me, it was really cool to see how close I could get to the deer. I didn't really like enjoy shooting them with a gun. So I just like, once I got a bow in my hand, I was like, Oh, a full blown addict. Like right away.

59:10 But did I just, the bow hunting, the snap of the bow, like that, and then the whack of the, and the pop of the lungs popping. So when I anchor that nose button, it's like everything is, you know, like that mountain It's not. well they took that line and moved it out to netherland it killed 15 dogs in 30 days So, you know, we're driving, driving. He had ripped it.

1:01:17 easy killing for him for him he had dogs and fucking deer and literally any whatever he wanted She's like, because there's like three or four of them running around here. That's what you want to go after, big, full, mature tom. meat in him and guts it was probably 220 that's that's as big as they get, right? That's how it's so big. And if you pull the picture.

1:03:12 you and drag you by your fucking neck out of there no problem right up a tree whoop right up a fucking And you see these glowing eyes under this tree because it was, like, getting dusk out. Yeah. of us calling people and hearing stories this and that and finally we get this guy's fucking We're like, yeah. Oh my God. He's trying to kill you and eat you.

1:05:59 It's a fucked up animal. Well, lions will kill and bury their shit too. They can't find anything. So this guy, you get a hold of him he gives you permission and then how do you how how does it go about so we fucking get out of the truck you know So you know he was sleeping under there every night, fucking denned up. And he's like a fucking mountain goat, right?

1:07:40 Nope. through this shit and he was like well hurry up we got him and i was like oh fuck i was like i fucking post hole into it you're just sliding falling the whole way like my fucking pants are all ripped up i'm dude i'm cramping I was like, all right, I'll be there. fucked up break a leg a lot of shit can happen to you up there so I just kept crawling and made

1:10:02 And he's only like 20 feet from me. fucking dead. You know, my face is pale white. My dreads are all fucking hanging out. And, uh, Right? I'm, bud. like, dude, I shot that, when I released that arrow, He just was basically under the tree henry lifting that motherfucker up you know wow so i grabbed grabbed the line lift him up and that's what this felt like i felt like i had fucking derrick henry lifting that motherfucker up you know wow so i grabbed grabbed the line and lift him up and he's like flop his head over

1:13:22 shit you know illegal yeah traveling with mountain lion meat you can't i was like i don't know about that i don't think we should That was five days, 60 miles on my feet, just got after it. We just fucking got lucky. front page me standing over tom fucking screaming fucking howling over him you know like that but hooked on it and then i went oh so right after i shot that mule deer up there i went straight down

1:16:25 It does something where, you know, when people would hunt back in the day, that's how they stayed alive. It's like, You could kill them much easier. Because you fuck them up when you do that. Right. It's genius. like that it's from wolves and cats yeah because they get eaten asshole first or they freeze to down what are they doing with it though they're turning it into taking the plastic and recycling

1:19:44 Yeah, what happens when it runs out of plastic? So how did you get this lion down? and it has like a meat tray back there. the fucking ground. I was fucking miserable, but I was, you know, felt accomplished at this point. rate going and this fucking hammered me dude I was fucked up for like well then I had to go straight I was like this is gonna suck with a lion on my back and I took one step on that rock and my feet

1:22:58 and then somehow get him back on and fucking strapped in and rolled back over onto my fucking uh onto my stomach and hours late uh i sent a picture of them with of me on the mountain with it in my pack it's the they're like this dude shows up to two to work two hours late and just fucking tells like an If that was the one living under that guy's porch,

1:25:04 For sure, easy. It could kill me and eat me and there's a bunch of people that went They're so goofy like their approach to these things is so strange. hunting. And they're like, yeah, no more grizzly hunt. don't understand how hard it is. No. Yeah, that's where I'm going. He sent me some, like, we probably saw the same pictures. Like, wolf tags are easy to get up there.

1:27:53 They're so smart, and their fucking nose is so intense. Oh, I mean, coyote hunting? she was like five at the time. Fuck this coyotes, man. national geographic documentaries on them hunting elk herds and how they fucking separate one of They lost an elk, right? He, like, had to hang in the back of the pack for a little bit. And you're all living together, sleeping in the woods together.

1:30:16 us to leave them alone and they want them to exist peacefully. Like California's model seems to Yeah. So the population's pretty fucking low. Whereas out here in Texas, a mountain lion is right they're all doing pretty good but the mountain lions are like they're fucking thriving So they know what kind of numbers that they have and how many need to be taken out to keep everything balanced in the area.

1:32:23 They make you take an exam online to even get the license so you you learn everything you can about lions about their gender right away or else they'll fucking ding you and you don't want to get dinged by It has to all be used, which is wild because up in Wyoming, they don't give a shit. Yeah. The rivets are cooked. Really? It was insane. Dump some pellets and fucking turn it on with your phone.

1:34:45 filters into the the main chamber and you cook your meat in that oh my god it's insane is it This is what I have. like uh an hour and a he's a great too. He's got a very cool Instagram page. So that's the, it's got a charcoal grill on it, on the side of it as well. It's my favorite. Yeah? I heard it's tough to hunt those things. Yeah, yeah. And then I start doubting myself.

1:37:47 We have to find this guy. Even when they shoot them with rifles, they don't find blood. Yeah, he was there. Because they'll lose it in that big mesquite brush. I used a fucking decoy in front of my bow. Oh, nice. Right. Yeah. If you have a bad shot at all, Yeah. Which is, Imagine how much that must be throwing you off banging into trees and shit. Oh, they probably love when they shed that shit

1:40:26 Yeah. Like a deer in velvet, feeling how soft it is and all the blood vessels that are still Oh, wow. I'm going up there with Aaron Snyder 2024. Oh, my God. That's one thing they haven't imported down here in Texas. Not even in high fences, even in low fences. like when you have these big private ranches a good percentage of them are from other countries

1:42:14 Zebras fucking running around everywhere. Ostriches. That's, I mean, that's almost scary. Like, they got everything. The size of these fucking ranches here are insane, right? It's like one guy owns like 300 and something thousand acres. Turkey. It's like right in between there. If you're going to own a ranch, that's where you own one. you just go back there start walking you start coming across lion tracks and bear tracks and

1:44:35 That's not what I'm looking for, man. Where? So he writes off half of it. A lot of people aren't aware of that, they're trying to get rid of the over-the-counter elk tag? It's a six-point draw. It's pretty cool. I just want you to experience what it's like. It was this one giant fucking elk and this little cocky dude. Ka-clack. she grew up with cheyenne oh really so she's from Wyoming originally. That's where she grew up, was Cheyenne. Oh, really?

1:48:01 That's the kind of woman you want. killed you know i just don't want to watch it you don't have to i'm like you don't have to i was And he's raking his fucking tree and we're, you know, and he's like just ripping bugles. That's a fallow deer? Did they introduce stag to there from Europe, or were they there? Really? But they don't know. So these guys are like holding up a dead house cat,

1:50:18 and there was fucking, They just fucking attack me out of nowhere. And just fucking, ugh, knock the wind out of me. want i don't even want them exposed to it i'm just i'm stopping this shit now yeah like that if, so they probably put me on some kind of medication when I was a kid. well they put me on adderall when i got to high school there you go So your brain waves are like up and like they're all over the fucking place.

1:52:47 Whoa. I jump out of bed fucking ready to go. You know how people without ADHD, when they take Adderall, they're fucking... Huh. I take my Adderall and a's like, I'm like laser focused. Huh. Well, that's what the, so I was finding myself like when I started doing this radio show, So to start work at 2 o'clock after I'd, like, tortured myself in the gym for fucking an hour and then cold tubbed.

1:54:12 We got a different one out here a thermal barrier. The whole time, just fucking. But if you ever feel how you're, I want to try it. You never get used to it. happy yeah you're so no anxiety no anxiety's gone i feel so good and i feel so like friendly and he was telling me he was doing it before workouts. and then I fucking felt good. Oh, yeah. I don't want to fucking something you know it makes a difference

1:57:14 Then I start stretching out. everything man and i i love the sauna before I go to bed. The heat kills them. A lot of people do stuff in an infrared sauna. you know? said that the real work you know, He'll take like a 70-pound dumbbell and jump in the water with the 70-pound dumbbell big wave surfer type individual. within the training, which is what keeps it interesting for me. So I don't really have

2:00:51 People put too much effort. Do the kind of training for like the shit you do And then like next thing I know, I fucking went, you know, three miles. Right. Yeah. And he's like, the fuck are you thinking about? And I'm like, dude, I'm just all kind of you wouldn't even like, hello. And I'm like, Oh shit, sorry. And he's like, the fuck are you thinking about?

2:02:34 Like stupid, my wife was like, It helped. this is like an ad for Adderall i know really doesn't make me want to try it everything's good Well, Adderall, I mean, guys, people get hooked on this shit. Generally? That's why I like mushrooms. Yeah. I can't remember what the fuck it was have to say stick with that thought i'm just gonna stick with it because if i think it then it's

2:05:15 No studies. might be is because there's less additives in it, But it's not starch. Yeah, it was fucking awesome. She just popped in. And I mean, it's one of the greatest standing ovations I've ever seen in my life. go up. And so when we introduced and they all crushed it yeah everybody was good night it was a good night but watching her go on ron there r Ron was another one.

2:08:20 It was a great night. and they got here, and they're like, oh, this is better. You used to be hot But there's going to be humans shitting on the sidewalk. It doesn't seem like they're doing anything radical to reverse the policies that put them Don't California my Texas. That's not helping anybody. Why is it okay to have bags of shit there? The amount of money that we've sent to other countries.

2:10:57 Dude, I paid 48 cents on the dollar for 10 years straight to these motherfuckers. You're going to force, you'll throw me in, like, dude, it's tyranny. No, there's no way. They've got to do something. Where the fuck did that money come from? how to dance, I had no fucking clue. like you have no credit they're like you have no credit like i was like well what the fuck is credit

2:13:22 paying taxes well i got that check and i saw I was like well I thought it was they didn't do any fucking squats And so I just think that we should have a say in what the fuck they're doing with our money. Unless you get some very headstrong politician, like some JFK type dude who puts a stop to It's a slow trickle. There's a low probability that we were wrong.

2:15:19 They don't. I know. you sponsor the devil? if you want to drive Can you pull it up? They didn't. really funny that would be that's very funny yeah i mean someone could have done that it's also a I'm trying to find it. That's very strange. Candace Owens had one of my first, Someone was like, watch this. They're like internet dudes. art that's created

2:18:56 Beeple? I've heard of him Oh, that's fucking wild. Yeah. That's so weird. They're fucking, just fucking dicks. And it's so strange. oh jesus christ tucker should put that on his wall that's fucking great yeah he's he's quite I'm like, you guys are fucking idiots. Right. I did like 10 grand in crypto and that was it. And it seems like if I was in charge of fiat currency,

2:21:57 He killed – oh, Elon mentioning it? Well, it is like gambling. one day I met him out at a bar and he was wearing a suit. He was getting hammered and telling me all what what happened how he became a stockbroker what year was that Like, these guys were animals. life taking adderall all the time is like god damn those people seem productive What is this?

2:24:44 Whoa. Or is it just a stimulant? How long have you gone without taking it? I drink like fucking 20 cups of coffee. do this and then I could do that. And then I could like, it helps me like manage the, other shit that I wanted to do so I'm focused on bow hunting I'm focused on like and getting on the rower and fucking hitting cows on the rower and then grab my bow and shooting

2:27:46 I was working out with a trainer which I really enjoyed too, but there was a thing circuit. And it's never heavy 150 to 155 the entire time from the rower because you have to you want to do it as short as you know all power you know just and when i pull that rower dude i'm pulling like 2 000 every time i it's like 2 000 every time i The year I got fucking life-changing generational wealth money?

2:30:05 He'd do a 20-minute prime before I'd go to the stadium and get me primed. you know and i was like okay so i found some good shit and started trying it it was actually liquid is so slow around me that I'm moving faster than everything else I'm just moving faster so like I'd right like a football play is six seconds long and that's a long football play the quarterback

2:32:25 To me, it was like it took a minute for it to happen, It totally makes sense. i said all right fucking bobby boucher that shit fucking let's go i loved it dude i love i hit this Like, yeah, I don't think it like you could talk about the childhood and this and that, The mushroom Viking connection is wild. Like I finally get to open the line, Fuck. Imagine walking through, like I'm going to fucking war, but I'm walking through a bar pretty much. Imagine walking through it.

2:35:22 Yeah. Like, I think when you do something like that and that many people are watching and you're on mushrooms and you have that Viking DNA, your body probably like, oh, it's wartime. Yeah. I got to fucking get it together, dude. These jumbotrons are huge. Like, I had to hear the play twice sometimes. He knows what the fuck is going on. So that's what I did.

2:37:38 Yeah, of course because I would make that little make the drink I'd fucking make the drink, you know and time where you're not on the field so like being able to just get a little I want to fucking – I was a man out there. I don't think people understand the level of athlete you're dealing with Oh, yeah. or in the range of 300 pounds. Yeah. a defensive end

2:40:16 I know friends with cowboy with so donald and i became good friends man and i was awesome he's fucking Try doing it for five minutes. He's a big dude. I think that would be a good thing for you to get into. your strength can't get it out. Yes. He's fighting someone really good too. But Mike Perry and Luke Rockhold, that is a wild fucking fight. He was the champion.

2:43:57 Oh, my God. Bare knuckles. you have a false sense of confidence what you could do with your fists because this is not But your hands break so easy. But that's the wrapping of your hands and everything. There was a lot of those mismatches It says 200 versus 600 And the size difference is fucking crazy. Look at that. to a guy that's that much smaller than you. But

2:46:53 This is wild. He's chewing gum. It's the smallest mouthpiece of all time. I mean, there's a reason why he's hitting him with his fist like that, Yeah, they stopped it. that are like doing fake martial arts See, this seems like they might be playing. Look at this. No one knew what was real and what was fake. I am delivered. And they like throw their fucking, their suit coat over somebody.

2:50:06 Just like with the past live regressions. Because she's like, daddy, my tummy hurts. My wife, she's always telling me. I'm like, what? So like I have a teenage daughter and then I have a three-year-old. So I take her at three fucking hip you know like right we don't walk around up there without a gun no i wouldn't And I keep, I make sure she's standing, Roxy's always standing like right in front of me.

2:52:12 she's like should i bring my bow and i'm like sure bring your fucking bow whatever that's awesome And she wants to hear stories about hunting. with a and then daddy got up on the hill and I pulled my bow back and whack and then she starts feeling the love that you have for those people that's crazy people it's it's transformative marrying who i married i married right i did it did it the right way and it's the way we met you

2:54:55 julio 1942 fucking drinking straight out of the bottle and walking in there and fucking got i got It's just fucking dead. So, like, that's just the culture I was in. side of me you know but you know it's important it's so important for a guy like you to tell I don't need the fucking spotlight. You know, it was... Lordstown was a big factory there. she's like i used to i used to take rum and rub it on your gums that's how i fucking got you to

2:58:17 Oh, man. there's people out there that need to hear that man Yeah. It's not, if it makes you uncomfortable, it's not for you. Then just don't listen to it. day get to the next day survive and then you survive long enough and then you can learn how people I thought were my family taking fucking advantage of me, forging checks, doing all kinds they were all like

3:00:22 she's had a bunch of people being parasites rational decision don't just make an emotional decision in that moment like think about it before you fucking I can't imagine what that's like. till they answered it fucking ring ring all day long and hey can johnny come play no they'll never I'd be gone for like a month. Like I was like, I want to, and then I'd go to school.

3:03:05 It's the heroin fucking highway. It's a fucked up place, man. And I know there's guys out here, all kinds of people out there that will listen to that and realize, like, it's possible. I don't know what that feels like anymore. Appreciate you, man.