Joe Rogan Experience #1965 — David Choe Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Well, thank you very much. Jesus Christ. I had this on and people were like, do you think they know I'm from LA? I went down Congress. I went through like, um, uh, Westlake. I rode all over town. Like I talked to Jamie. It's been like two years It'll be three years. And then August when I moved here. so i'm i i look when people tell me how awesome austin is i don't know

3:29 No one gives a fuck. saying to the Asians listening it's it's a good place it's a I see very quickly It's because I'm born and raised in L.A. and the deeper you get like the more you're here the more you'll see the more you'll see that more So you're a great audio portrait artist. Like, you're going to walk to the studio? the comedy club to now owning one. And you're like, I'm going to do it my way. And like all the things I didn't like.

6:18 So I just wanted to. and they're not going to change. Right. It feels shitty when I'm landing. It's only hit human flesh. Like it's like, it's like insane. If I like forget to close my garage Something, like, way in the early, early pod days. someone doesn't say something nice or say hey man like i was gonna kill myself and i heard that get rich just like talking and doing this shit and so after after doing that show and i'm i'm

10:07 And there was so much like the influencers that went out there. But yeah, I mean, the Rasuli, Shani, the guys that I know out there are like, for the family. And then eventually I do want to fully go to kind of like, I'm not, who am I kidding? be a conversation about business monetization making money and you know we could get into all and it's just what they here's a bow and arrow and they're just drawing like and the drawings

13:24 and i'm like oh that's cool and we're on top of the cave and they're like cool cliff and I was like, more of this, like more of this. Like I want this thing where you just live I remember when I went to the Congo the first time I was 1918 to 1995. like living with these people like every five years a weirdo like you comes through or people, I don't know.

17:01 to have everlasting love you know peace joy and then if you don't, like, you're fucked. the things that I tried to figure out, like a game, like a video game, problems in marriages and business. And I go, it doesn't seem that hard to me as some, and I'm but people like to tell that story. Like I've amassed hundreds of millions. And you don't have to think about money if you have it.

20:14 Hundreds of billions. i was like give me one he's like what i was like give me one one billion and he's like i don't I'm not saying no, I promise you, And I go, I'm going to do stuff that on paper makes absolutely no sense. And I was like, thank you. You would have tried it out for a while. Right. You would have tried it out for a while, and then you would have gone back those weird people. I was like, I don't want to touch that. I don't want to touch that. You would have tried it out for a while.

22:35 And he's like, Cho, you're on fire. like it was a show in Beverly Hills all the celebrities came all the fancy people came I So at that point, I told my manager and everyone I work with, I'm like, everything now is free. I just lose money. And then, um, the video game of sex, which I wasn't very good at, is age 0 to 30. like it's it's ridiculous in the same way and, not to sound vulgar or, you know, objectify women, but that's what I did at

25:47 on the dates i've been on which material killed like what what did i say to make what girl laugh list celebrities just like I was like whoa whoa whoa and you know I got to a like a snicker bar. And I was like, that's an interesting fact mom i didn't know that and he was gay and i was like oh okay cool you know leonardo But I just I will why do you want to I I just like

28:53 And I could say I didn't like it or I did like it. you meet people and everyone has their game like Hollywood people like I get that Emmy or that I could be a monk for the rest of my life if I want to, you know, like. in my soul to my bones. And, you know, I, I look like this in Austin and no one judges me. Like just it's just a tremendous thing and then you know we we made this film and it's you know it's

31:59 cost that much anymore i mean i'm speaking from a rich guy so i know what that sounds like but like some, you know, whatever, something got cut. There was some notes. And that's where I get stuck a lot of times. Right. Because no one tells me what to do when I paint. I could do whatever the fuck I want. But when it comes to media, there's a bigger audience. People are more sensitive. People can get triggered triggered this and that so a lot of decisions made in hollywood are

33:32 They don't think about it the way you think about it. Right. Comedy Central 100% would fuck South Park up if they brought it to them right now who's like the best you know he him. He's in the Philippines. I'll send you the link to it. instinctually they know that has like fat or something in it so it's like the delicacy like and i don't know if this is an x this is how people survive yes but i don't know if that's

37:58 And it was like it's very, you're very conflicted. these kind of savage-looking, And these people are wild-looking people. The visuals. Yeah. It's intense. primates because we're eating our history well I mean so that's what I'm saying the visuals yeah when they can tell them when they throw the monkey on where we filmed the baboon hunt from beginning to end.

39:50 That's nutritious. It's like a wrote a book about which human like he's like french people are buttery Yeah, that guy. How is he out on the street? Psychiatric hospital loophole. Look at this. I know. Um, but, but yeah, if we were all hungry, we would all do the same thing. I mean, you've been to my... There's a giant difference between that and someone, obviously, who's hunting a primate for food.

43:51 Like, when I, I think I told you the last time, Yeah. We're like, we raise this money. Like he is like he can like run up a tree and kill a squirrel with his like rip his head off and eat it. out the shrimp cocktail and he was like, oh, you guysion i'm like bro that's not score it was like everything everywhere i took him he But you showed these people drinking out of puddles and imagine they're looking at this crystal clear water and they can't drink it.

46:36 Like chlorine from the pool? Oxygenated pool. And they go, we got the salt water pool. Yeah. Ocean water? I'm not trying to do it, like, but like, there was, you know, when I meet old healthy people, This might be against the neti pot industry. I snort salt water. Oh, that's in Florida. water has, like, cow poop in it, and, like, But now he says he has the most insane like gut biome.

50:04 It's called poly face farms all the animal on the farm, it's called polyface farms, and he drinks out of the cattle, They tell you what they would do, right? It was badass. So because I want to live, you know, the longest. shell on i saw arnold schwarzenegger do it so um banana peel on like a whole bitter melon like the I want to be Robin hood or a Peter Pan forever. And so people were like, Oh, if money will keep

53:20 Yeah, he hits you. you will get into shape, you know? sees a guy, a huge guy, My mom almost had a heart attack. I go to the like one of the shittiest they just go there to like shower up there's always someone about to like looking like like most is the moving to africa right now maybe not africa africa but like close by where i get to be in like a not populated area where I'm closer to nature.

55:53 But Austin is just, It's a, it's a very it's interesting one of the what the thing they always say about austin is keep austin blue and surrounded so like what keeps it in check is it's surrounded by real texas came from how difficult it was to settle. It's a fucking insane book about the Comanche who lived here. before the guys could get off a second shot because the whole thing about old school guns

57:52 Faster than shooting a gun. Whoa. time all right i got it i'm gonna come to austin i'm gonna learn how to shoot like that i'm gonna He was like... They think that's how the Mongols did it too. Like the people, like just in like the lady at the hotel and the restaurant, like everyone's super nice. Well, I've done some acting. So like Scorsese or anybody?

1:01:01 It's not what I'm interested in. Yeah. And you're like, I'm not interested in painting unless, you know know I don't do anything halfway like I want to go in go in right He does a little bit of that. look that guy is responsible for all this if it wasn't for him if it wasn't i mean we got ahead probably it's also probably like that's why he doesn't go into town i mean look at that shit

1:04:03 that kind of energy could apply to anything. There's, like, cross-training. like you get better at certain aspects of other I am an MMA artist, mixed media artist, And it's because we do that from the day that we can talk and walk, right? don't want to come off douchey they're fans i i hear you that and that's fair but um don't you So I just killed the dream for myself.

1:07:19 Now at age 46, sometimes I go with my artsy friends early in the morning, like 530. So I wasn't trying. Delicious with him on Netflix and Marielle the producer of it is like do you want to be a food go to the comic book shop every Wednesday and all that stuff. But like, I love superhero stuff. Like And the guy's giving him his keys and he's about to drive off.

1:10:06 type characters you have all this like fighting and there's no there's no like graffiti and he So the graffiti would be like this. mean i'm like put me in like just so i could tell my friends and shit that i was in star wars So this is the first time i'm on tv Fuck him up, Chris. Ah. to learn Jabba the Hutt's language. Jon Favreau and, uh, and Dave Filoni who are like the showrunners. And they're like, um, yeah,

1:13:18 They go, Dave, have you ever thought about acting? And I was like, I'm not like making crazy requests. And they're like, the character's name is Isaac Cho. like a real actor? should I take an acting class? So I come in, and it's an audition. I didn't. I hope you like me. retired nfl players right and i was the last one so i'm like what like steve-o said no and i called

1:16:54 guy. That's so I did actually get into pretty good shape. And then at ultimately at the end, interview process was insane they have like therapists talking they want to make sure that What do you call it? Mean it didn't even come close to where it was supposed to go. Yeah, and it's in oh All right. fuck, And they're like, there's so much of your life that is just like not appropriate for like.

1:19:17 But survivors, it's entirely dependent upon someone voting for you. Yeah, but there's other people like you out there. on a show with one of those guys you'd be like god damn it well the one of the things that that's like the biggest benefit of meditation for me these days is could have like called you and got to the front you know like i i just i'm just at peace with

1:21:32 Yeah. my whole life unless you count like I wonder what's longer. It's hard for everybody part and then one on the baboon dick part so i said no to survivor beyond beyond the edge whatever Like, I want to, like... is, like, when I'm playing basketball Okay. get the right group of guys. There could be between Japanese and Koreans. But I'm like, what do you do after the trip?

1:25:30 add other stuff to it. Oh, to grab. when a lot of guys went no-gi. Okay. That's where the headquarters is. All right. And Eddie was, you know, he'd just gotten back from tapping out Hoyler Gracie in Abu Dhabi. And the idea behind it was use, because in MMA you don't have the gi, So he transitioned very easily to Abu Dhabi and he wound up winning. And I said, why don't you just call it tenth planet jiu-jitsu because it's like we

1:28:55 Towards the earth. I've been told this is nonsense. Okay by people cosmologist Okay, which is nothing is nonsense. So I said the other day we're talking to Andrew Schultz that the moon doesn't spin I love nonsense. So it rotates at the exact same rate we do so that we always see the same side? these ancient Sumerians and came from this planet that is described as Nibiru.

1:31:07 absolutely and of course how close or far to hear my hot take on comedy right now okay it's like what we fucking we're going all over the road or dressing like just in a hoodie or i'm like you're a fucking clown dude dress ridiculous Get some dope-fitted suits. they just, that's how they like, they'll perform better. Yeah, I was like eight when I saw that.

1:35:30 like a progression from richard pryor yeah here's the new young richard pryor style of comedy and I'm like, he already killed. He destroyed killing on stage imagine living your whole life i'm like that would suck the stage just looks But you can do that too. people would let him walk on stage with notes they would let him right you could do whatever

1:37:36 It was fucking hilarious. there's no youtube video that shows you how to do double face you're like what the fuck is that than you are from like school or anything. Like jokes, laugh. the raw act you know he's like oh this happens. Does it aid the comedy or does it make it like They're so funny. I know where the jokes are I still want to see him again and again They're so funny right it doesn't I know how the sausage is made right like it's not no one tricking me

1:40:24 fuck dude but not and they stop loving nostalgic or that or whatever. bitter jaded guy like art sucks comedy sucks whatever and so um i did psychedelics recently this is not like, it's you motherfucker. It's like, you know what I look like, motherfucker. And I'm like, stop cussing at me, man. saying we fucked a human. big heads and your eyes are a little bit like this and your dicks are a little bit smaller

1:44:40 Do you know this? like, avatar? Dude, straight... And I'd forgot about it till the alien was talking to me. Well, I'm telling you who gave me the answer. I gave you just enough dick And I was like, oh, it's not a Mongolian birthmark? It's, like, in my mind, I'm, like, this is not what I was expecting out of this spiritual journey. and people of African descent, over 80% of Asians, over 70% of Hispanics,

1:47:35 when you say wait in the Sumerian text they say Asians are spawns of no no no But I don't know if it's true. David, David, that's like a, that's in my blue asshole. Someone's henpecking you, There's a lot in these words that clearly have the hand of man, but there's also some inherent deep wisdom and a moral and you're going to be a good person, and this is all a part of God's plan.

1:51:22 the opposite the opposite is what's happening right now in Ukraine. The worst thing that people do. but we only have the ability to understand feeling is of being if you knew that would be the last thing you would ever want to happen why are you going into ms-13 territory why are you going to the congo why are you going to bosnia him i've used love he's and he didn't run away from me like him and all of his friends were doing

1:55:03 it's disproportionately a lot of Orthodox Catholics, And, And I'm like, we like having a team right i'm a christian our symbol is this i have a star ours has 20 arms I was like, what? It's incorrect or biased. I just learned this, um, third space, right? Like first space and second space is like, searching like i'm not perfect obviously but i try to do anytime something happens and i feel

1:58:56 I play this asshole, like kind of lovable asshole. So my character is always yelling at my cousin. No one reads Iron Man. Yeah. into dc comics that much fucking love all of it i love all that shit but i just never followed like me when i'm angry right everyone could buy it on that right like everybody i'm just i'm just Like, he invented this shit that's better than anything anyone's ever figured out ever.

2:02:07 That's the problem. the shittiest comics that I what else? I hate to say this. I gotta pee again. I used to like Blade. Blade was dope. Yeah. Tracy Lords. Because it's, when the guy realizes that there's blood coming out of the ceiling, and then he looks up. and freaking out, Yeah, whatever the fuck they use. I wonder if it's gonna be like this though

2:05:20 This fucking scene's amazing, man. You're more of a monster guy. at the height of my gambling, right. When I'm being flown to Macau, when I'm flying and taking like it i'm like this feels good but i i'm glad you said that well the thing i said before about Right. and I kind of don't like how I feel. And I'm like, you know, I'm talking to Allie, fuck you and that and like ali wong's my friend i don't want to fucking yell at my friend and the

2:09:44 I was like, why not? Right? How So we're running a program. it's completely normal highlight so it doesn't right so it doesn't feel bizarre for you culturally But don't you think if you did, if you had that way of thinking, you couldn't be creative. that's not what happened i laughed i was like i don't know what to do in this moment. And I don't want to like go against everyone else is laughing. So I guess I'll just laugh. Yeah. And I'll just laugh. So I'm like laughing at a racist joke in the 80s against me, because that's the mask or whatever.

2:13:35 where a pandemic hits That's what's so weird about behavior. It wasn't very long. Like there's a lot of scenarios that you could see way worse than what the pandemic was. mean fear i mean fear real or imagined is i mean there's a quote about it where like most of these things that you're scared of will almost never happen, right? And there's a lot of folks like that.

2:16:13 And if there's no, like, you could take a film of someone murdering someone and then they'd catch that guy from the news. Some guy yells at a group of people. Culturally, there's a reason why zombies are fucking so big right now. Yeah, it's heading this way. But I go back to that's one by Metallica. like bro i want to get a painting for you from you, but I'm being sued for a trillion dollars right now from like every single and you know, whatever they got out of that. But I'm saying it had the genie was out of the box, Pandora's box, whatever. And, and so that was back then. Right. And now we live in an age where most kids don't pay. Like if I wanted to listen to music, I had to take a

2:19:26 AI, I want to listen to Carpenters, but I want Ice-T to sing it. That's here. It's not perfect yet. It's getting real close. And so what does it do? arcs but all asian change the ending to the sopranos deep fake like that's coming that's That's here now? but we've seen enough Terminators, like the things I could go to hate or I could go to acceptance, adapting and our religion of love.

2:21:27 tapes, like you're going to have to move away from technology and more to human like my lawyer costs 600 bucks every time I pick up the phone. I'm like, So he gave me a very similar answer than the chat GPT. I'm that's a phone call i'm never gonna have to make again wow boom done Right. And I think there's going to be a transitionary period where people are cyborgs

2:24:02 It's coming. Right. exists and if if we could do that what could something that is as far evolved past us as we and just be stuck. Impossible. Like, my dad is old, but like sometimes I work with like older people. That's the thing. Oh, I gotta get that. And that was like the coolest shit that anybody figured out. Wow. It's all about disease. yeah um homeless there it is you found oh you got it that's it yeah suzanne humphries MD and how do you say this gentleman's name Roman

2:28:51 and that everyone lived in back then, i mean i'm guilty like i know what i know you like samurais i know you like aliens but i know I'm not interested in anything that doesn't do the job perfect every time. you don't normally talk about. I'm going to show you something cool. I loved them when I was a kid. I want to send you this thing, Jamie, this is an artist

2:30:51 This is fucking insane what this guy's doing. This is the biggest fucking chocolate I've ever seen in my life I don't know where he's from. I don't know where he is it's got a lot of countries up up on there Oh yeah, that's amazing. In another world, right? Uh-oh. Half of this show is the fun of pull that up, up Jamie and then and I'm like what kind

2:33:31 There's a deep fake voice that's doing like, all right, Joe, or whatever. and this is like the concern about AI art. And I know a lot of people have concerns about AI art, I fucking love this thing. It would still be dope. No, I'm saying we're moving towards. It means more. And those pool cues are just about design right and just beautiful execution but in the world of handmade pool cues there's some motherfuckers that are like cutting right there's this guy named um well my buddy john showman's

2:36:08 So the artisanal pool cue guy is like how many of those are in the world? And there's a lot in japan too there's this uh one company called zen cues out of japan that's doing a lot of the construction puts all this stuff together It's incredible. Some of them have a 10. and it's not evil and it's not trying to kill us But I think if you think about all the other planets that don't have any life,

2:39:42 And the idea that it wouldn't. go into the ocean. And then it'll stop this idea of having a fucking caldera super volcano that we're the last of the this we might not be we might not but let's just say it is yeah then what we change culture and and human beings start behaving in a way that's more consistent with what we would like to see from an It's like buying a painting where I paint over like 20 times.

2:42:58 to fuck you or anything like that. And, uh, and, uh, I said, you know, a lot of people, Like, show me how to have fun. Like, the stats, it doesn't match up. i always feel that i can sometimes get He's the man. We are 100% at the mercy of our robot overlords. It sounds good. So in the same way, like a weightlifting dude in the 50s would not recognize like a roided out like modern super both guy. They'd be bad

2:47:12 Man becomes, as it were, the sex organs of the machine world, as the bee of the plant world, enabling it to fecundate and evolve ever new forms. The machine world reciprocates man's love is fucking, it's such a nutty thing to think. your phone oh six hours a day what you just described right now is actually how i view you So I feel like, I don't want to call it a parasite,

2:49:18 Why I think about things and what what I'm thinking and you know In a way that you can't do without a psychedelic or I've never been able to maybe you can do with yoga or some When you see a baby being born into the world and the love that you have is like you're on a drug, telepathic. And it's like I've almost died multiple times. here right so you can only take the information that you get from that and bring it back to here

2:52:10 thought it was like you had a rat tail like anakin skywalker or something and it's the it's a broken I watched the whole thing. But I think most of us are like that. Can you tell me if this is true? the little room is the shit. Thinking about doing standup is probably the same reason why I still work out at like the Aliens. I took one hit of whatever, how powerful

2:55:01 people they they only look at bad performances. When I look at my friend like BJ Penn or someone like Conor McGregor or Anderson Silva, people Like there's, that's the most fun thing to do. It's the most fun thing ever. This is what you don't understand. That's the most fun thing to do. But like those last few that he got his ass rocked, it changes my image of like...

2:56:20 I mean, that was a big KO. Weidman caught him with that still having a great time but I'm talking about not just fighters but Get better. Let's go, David Cho. No, now we're talking about some insurmountable obstacle. organisms. Right. But if evolution can convince these multi-celled organisms to create something the last time i did ayahuasca which was 35 the drug told me the medicine told me you're done

2:59:31 summoned by the guardians of the point. Sounds like a movie. And I did the most powerful psych. state in that spiritual state i was like i have so many i'm a hoarder because i'm my mom i collect a know why i still have my prom suit that i lost my virginity in like 1992 like congratulations yeah Right. You know, but imagine your own. And I did this in Arizona with this guy, Taruno.

3:02:38 and like getting this close, and so a very common thing and i'm giving this secret away is you go to like an expensive rehab Or I take it one step further. So a few years ago, this is before you left L.A. like well I want to get more likes and more whatever but so in a way it ended up being the And then they grab you and they go, it's covered with, um, sculptures, like all these found objects, sculptures I made, but, um, I'm

3:06:15 armor right but then i made it artistic you know so you literally get to beat the shit out of a Oh, no. way like he got one right here but i was asking but like but your head's gonna get rattled no and it was so impactful and people don't appreciate free there has to be some skin in the game right i think like when i Yeah. Just whatever you feel like doing.

3:09:33 That's always been the case with comedy clubs. each person and that was fulfilling for me but if i'm trying to meet people where they're at in the gonna do anyways and they don't teach you like how to like get in touch with your emotions or someone dragged you there right but you would want to go back to doing that if it was that seems to All day I play Wolverine.

3:12:28 You just can't do more than you're time. like strung up. I can't go in there? like food like you know something from your childhood using these acrylic paints but on the My kid will go into my closet and put on every single piece of clothes and come back. And I'm Right. I mean you walk – like I feel like we're similar in that way. I think I have. I got to wrap this up, my brother.

3:16:34 Yeah, I like it. you're a very analytical guy you'll look at it and decide oh now i want to try this now i'll try