Joe Rogan Experience #1976 — James Fox Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Let me just be honest, off the bat. doing it for, you know, so many, so many years, but then this one, this one just right away, So I was making my second documentary on UFOs And we like mapping out the film concept, like, hey, we should cover this case and we should do Right. Absolutely. over a period of time, like, why are you so kind to me? He's a very wealthy guy in New York.

3:53 I swear to God. and uh just to be nice right but in the back of my mind i was like i'm not wasting one second on And he's one of the smarter guys. I was like, oh, okay. You know what he told me? and he died in the airport running for a connecting flight. He was a fascinating guy, he knew how it was set up when they when they took him there he knew the security

7:07 Let me tell you, this is something that just came in yesterday that I can, for the first It's like 80 years of denial now. He was an amateur astronomer. And he had a couple of really cool sightings out at Area 51 that were And I'm going back and forth This must have been, I'm going to guesstimate, 95, 94, 95. inside the little alien, and I'm like, okay, where's this going? And all of a sudden, and I

10:33 you can't see them, sounding like they're trying to crawl under the seats. I mean, You've never seen anything like it. a disc that was so low, you could have hit it with a rock. And I'm looking at this thing I said, this is the video everyone's been waiting for. Fair enough. fake video? What year did you see it? I saw it like 95. And so it's out there somewhere. No,

13:30 They're terrified, but they give it to a guy who lives in a trailer? I get it. I know, Joe. And he's not talking to me. So I went on like a concrete podcast and I went on this guy, And I tell Logan Paul the story. my God, that was well done. I said, I got the guy. My phone doesn't work. dress on his clothes so logan paul's, all right, well, this guy doesn't

16:52 So I said, look, you know, this is a story that might be of interest to Bob Lazar I know, you know way more than I do about the case. I said, maybe, I mean, just maybe. I don't know. and you would probably add in some stuff that's not true. His story's been absolutely consistent since the late 1980s. or we accurately, they predicted it and then proved it to be real in

20:16 And it's about April 1966. they're in and around the area for several days. He said it was kind of wobbling down like a leaf, kind of. I've got it. They got up to, I think, around 10 feet away from it, which is pretty remarkable. And they said it got off the ground Yes. of these cases can be explained in conventional terms. All this noise about Chinese balloons and

24:00 better copy uh outside but see the way it turns sideways? Now, let me tell you, if you ever see a photograph of a UFO, and I've talked to NASA analysis about this, and it has a clearly defined edge, it's probably a fake. I have a much better copy outside, Go get the bag. Can I see the full, how it's... Okay, here it is. Look at this. God, it's right there. Exciting. Sorry about that. Keep that up on the screen, please, Jamie. Can I see the full how it's...

24:54 There's his handwriting. I know, right? That's the same photo. That's what they're telling us. Jamie's on the case. It is wa-fine. You look at one particular case, you think, ah, I see some cracks in that case. We cracked the case. That's the way it's going, that way. Evelyn and her husband, Paul Trent, snapped, I think, two or three photographs of a disc in broad daylight.

27:26 She was on the podcast, and she told That one over there is a hubcap. I've got that extremely Well, I'm showing you the ones that have been scrutinized to death. that Condon Committee did on this. know i think listen if you had a unique experience if you were out in the desert and you're driving Lazar, I believe Bob Lazar when I talk to that guy. I like what you say. I believe he believes what he's saying

29:58 So he's a guy who understands propulsion systems. around there and he's like what the fuck is this They can't they can't peer review with other scientists all over the world because it's top-secret shit What else you got? No, it's all good. This guy has it. They lived in Los Angeles and they're definitely still alive. Contact me at James C. Fox. I thought you were going to give your email out.

32:49 I could not believe. Absolutely. Was there ever any testimony? all the way to modern day. Holloman Air Force Base, different areas in Texas. other after like a day or two. We were like, look at proximity to Trinity site. Wow. Even Socorro, He goes, yeah, I'll give you 45 seconds. But in any case, I contacted him and he's like, oh, I'm not doing too well. I got

36:43 that's a problem. And if these guys are hallucinating when they've got nuclear weapons at their disposal? That's terrifying. And it's and then his nukes start shutting down. He goes, well, James, the way I see it, it's kind of like taking matches out of the hands of a baby. stand for look it up it's an acronym it's it's the new UAP task force there's

38:22 I just don't even want to spend any time. you one question? Absolutely. Because we're still I mean, Robert Hastings can, I mean, I- Rendlesham Forest, December 1980. Gabansag acted as a relay between the base and where this object had sat on the ground. became a witness. And he said that these objects, there's a recording of him while it's happening.

40:42 And it didn't make any sound, very little sound. He investigated it because it took place in England. That's what they said to him, yes. but don't take it from me. that we may begin to face threats from outside of this world, Well, what's in it for them to tell us about it in the first place? That is not what happened. and I got a phone call from Leslie Kane,

43:42 I said, I don't know. Oh, come on. close encounter of the first kind, you see a UFO, Close encounter of the third kind is when beings are reported by the witnesses. daughter, Diane, the son, Michael, his coworkers. I went to the National Archives with Ray Stanford. and that was one thing that his daughter Lonnie looked out the window of his patrol car.

47:07 am I looking at, like, an overturned car? He said they were small, childlike. Lonnie had passed a couple years prior to that. talked about it in some recordings that i got from his family and other researchers it's in the movie And he gets out of the patrol car. You can hear a pin drop. I actually have the original symbol in that upside down V right there. That's the real one. That's the real one. And I've got the

50:24 that's it that's the document that i found found with Ray Stanford at the National Archives in 2013. Yeah, that's what it looked like. But when it got to about 20 feet off the ground, I don't know. While I'm doing Moment of Contact, there's an unprecedented effort in Washington, D.C. to push for further government transparency. in the oceans, and on the land for years.

53:34 efforts to find the truth, but I am more sure than ever that Kirkpatrick is not the one. It's so frustrating. It's satellite data. And I spoke to five other people that are part of the program or had the top secret clearances to access this. And then you put your fingerprints all over it, Oh, and these guys are so smart. I went to Australia. there's a case that happened in 1994,

56:10 I don't know, it's only like 10 minutes long. is the case that could settle this debate once and for all or let's tease people for a bit with But when you watch the documentary, it sounds less spectacular. UFO crashed Oh, good. Yeah, that's what I was saying. The thing in 94 in China and stumbled across this. Oh, good. First, there was electricity between them.

58:18 that felt like an electric shock, Then ached. I did not hear about that aspect of it. But I was very attracted to the avatar lady the big blue I am let's just say hypothetically for a moment, and got this insane infection with the details but suffice to say bore me bro we got a gravity bomb over there we could be here Marco Leal Thank You Marco and and co

1:02:06 visit us that's different than us. And it's probably been here forever. My DP, David West, And there was a guy named Uberajada Rodriguez. I was going to include like five or ten minutes of that case, Imagine being these people in this small city of 150,000 people and then something happens I met with him with Marco on two occasions. No? Okay. Phenomenal photographic evidence

1:05:18 Tell us about Virginia. Why did you have that reaction of Virginia Marco was too we were begging him I was practically licking this guy's boots and he's getting prepared to leave and he's got a driver waiting for him outside Now, the reason why I share that is because that's not something that I can put any weight on for the documentary for people like you, right?

1:06:26 but I've seen the guy Modine or something like that but you talk to the witnesses but why would the why would the when they saw this thing, they're looking like, what are we looking at here? They're walking through this field and it's up against the cinder block wall. And one of them kind of like screeched. He wants help. And I asked Katya, and I asked all the girls girls during that moment of contact, when you lock eyes, I know it's only a brief second, but during that moment of contact, what did you feel like?

1:08:37 but I've avoided them because it's got so much baggage from men in black. I don't know for some reason I said okay for the first time in 25 years and doesn't leave for a week it was incredible. And they all said the same thing. I heard days and weeks is what I heard from people. I mean, everybody talked about that stench. When I came back from that trip people were like how was your trip to Brazil?

1:11:38 but you lost me on this one and i was like i don't blame you bro i really don't but listen to the witnesses just Because you're harboring the secret. that he can't tell the rest of the world. the hospital. We know he's been been we've been trying to get at him Rio de Janeiro. He was like, you're out of your mind. Like, dude, I stood out like a sore thumb, man.

1:14:47 Marta's looking, Marta's looking at her husband I'm here to get the story out. They got a thing in a black body bag. It's harder in Portuguese because I'm having to get it translated. And he said, first time in the history of my career, I took the x-rays and I couldn't even verify that they were good because they took them immediately. He's gone quiet.

1:17:19 They x-rayed it through the body bag. We just got two forensic pathologists for the first time ever there were two military guys on patrol on the lookout for something unusual, what they were and they drive it to a clinic. where it spent the night in the truck for one night, Feres, F-E-R-E-S. And he came forward for the first time and said, yeah. In January of 1996, this plane came in.

1:20:02 And it came and it landed at Campinas. asking you, please, please, if you're listening to this, to come forward and talk to us. This is an continued to try to meet with someone else. I'm working with a guy named Brian Bender. He's kind the biggest story that we've all been waiting for the story that in my opinion So that's an ongoing investigation.

1:23:33 you're like come on and i get criticized out there people are like ah no i have no photographic He goes, well, I'm thinking about putting together an article. And we made it happen. And we know where it is is and we know who has it And this is another thing that a lot of people don't even realize when they watch the movie, we'd meet with you we're not we're not going on camera i was like well what do you mean you're

1:26:53 what do you mean it was looking? The point where Marco Schriese and Eric Lopes captured the creature, and the point where the military blockades were. And I realized, I took my drone straight up and I filmed straight down, could possibly have as a complete independent Joe public guy, me, right. I'm meeting with senators Okay. And then you're confronted with what you've uncovered.

1:29:09 It's like, damn. out your rolodex i want you to help me find er Lopes. Eric Lopes is the key. He's the only So then we meet in the town square with a good connection. So I was like, all right. because who's this gringo guy walking up to his door on his property, asking questions about and I saw a face. This does not translate in the film. I saw a face that I've never seen before.

1:32:31 get out of here. I'm a bullets are going to start flying. Like he's military, you know, we didn't he doesn't speak he doesn't speak english and i don't speak portuguese i know there are no drugs in here. It's like, well, I didn't ask that, but now that you mentioned it, So that's very telling about what happened. all? This debate's been going on for 80 years. I'm handing this case to the world on a silver

1:35:32 The doctors that were written about in Dr. Roger Lear's book, one of my biggest regrets, And I just had so much going on. to know that I know. So anyway, he died. He gives me these tapes and then he dies. I actually, And it's all on camera, except the meeting with, There were two doctors that claimed telepathic communication with the live entity. they felt sorry for the human species, not realizing their, their potential, who they really are.

1:38:24 are. And I can tell people to contact me at my Twitter. I'm not going to give up my email. This is an ongoing investigation. things that were just defying physics yes that they didn't have the ability to detect before because the systems weren't as good. did that mean he goes that means in my opinion that he was very aware of this is this phenomenon

1:40:47 The gimbal footage is fascinating because you see it rotate. And it looks very similar to those things that we were just looking at. I mean, that's wild. And I'm going to go through a handful of cases that I personally have looked into. the alleged crash site. But, well, how about this? the deployment of atomic weapons, announced that they recovered a flying saucer. That's a fact.

1:43:48 We wouldn't talk about this if it hadn't been for them and Stanton Freeman. with the guy a bunch of times. He described the same material that he handled personally in his And when he came back on the outskirts, Force in the 90s under the Clinton administration, she went after that case because Clinton went show us that material that crumples up from 1947.

1:46:16 Took back its shape, yes. Most researchers think it's a smoking gun. And Jackie Gleason told my buddy, Jeff Sikanski, don't listen to what anyone ever tells you. I think a guy named James Rigney had something to do with it. I think there are other people out there like Richard Dolan and who's the other guy? How'd that go? on this topic to Clinton, I want you to go after Roswell. So Clinton went after Roswell. They were not happy with the

1:48:49 52. back to the tower going, what do I do? And they were all silent. Now, the interesting thing about It's amazing. from 52. Fast forward, 1955, Alabama, William T. Coleman, United States Air Force, World War II They were at treetop level at maximum continuous power. and it's stirring up dust in the back of it. I personally interviewed Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper.

1:52:48 jet comes in from Washington, D.C. Footage was taken, never seen or heard from ever again. Gerald Ford gets involved because that's when the Air Force, Dr. Hynek explains the whole thing away Joint U.S. Military Base in England. what he's seen. It is absolutely mind-boggling I know what I saw. Okay. getting funded by also Lawrence Spellman Rockefeller. He was doing a major funding

1:57:20 roughly around 5 o'clock to 8.30 from north to south. with Luke Air Force Base, and they had sent planes to intercept this thing. Let's go to, let's say 2004, you got the Nimitz case He wrote an article about it, and he actually sent a FOIA request and got the tapes from the tower. Absolutely. It's out there. You can find it right now. So I interviewed this guy named Ricky Sorrells.

2:00:00 And he looks above him, and he sees this object right above him that's so big, he said he couldn't You're saying this all audio too. police officers and I'm investigating this case for a couple of years. I put a lot of it in the I'll never forget it. So I go off to a cafe. a department store. I pulled out my radar gun and I shot my radar gun at this thing. It was doing

2:02:24 Now's the time. It's phenomenal. I'm representing all the witnesses that have trusted me. for them i come out here and i represent them and they trust me and that means a lot to me and if this is real, because they do. Some people like to lie. Yeah always think that. I always think, ah, people, because they do. Some people like to lie. Military X said, for the first time, it all started at Maialini Farm.

2:05:28 I'm in New York City a couple of weeks ago at a conference. You can see it. That too, yeah. And after that, they lit it on fire and burned it and then they bulldozed it. So I testimony in 1996 and I couldn't track but I've heard that he made that one time was that the military trucks arrived within minutes No, and and then like I give you another example like, you know

2:08:48 The crash happens according to the witnesses. That was the guy Marco Feres. And the plane lands without authorization from the Brazilian government, and it lands in Campinas. come forward, please. I'm just asking. Well, especially to a guy like you who's been chasing this for 12 years. I can't believe you just said that. because he clearly doesn't know. And he goes right to ET. I'm like,

2:12:02 but I'll put $25,000 on the table right here and right now. Yeah, no, it's not. our fastest jets that have left imprints on the ground. They're picked up by radar sensor, Wow. not... technology especially when it comes to nuclear power and especially when it comes to like what I mean, we're assuming they don't have control of the weather. This is the recent UAP amendment or legislation that was signed into law.

2:17:14 It's the UAP legislation. Shall not be subject to a non-disclosure agreement It's pretty compelling stuff. and it gets people so excited He's Australian. Eye of the Tiger. Like something goes wrong. That was really funny. I know, right? Yeah, I wish I could look him in the eyes too. He's been so supportive of me. This is an incredibly laborious thing

2:20:47 You can't. would you give that? Well, I almost did with Eric Lopes. There's a lot of variation in these experiences, a lot of variation in these crafts. keeps going for a thousand years, 10,000 years, a million years, what if they live in a more stable because you're talking about a truly infinite universe. I just about died. That's just a fact. government has treated us always when it comes to matters of international conflict, when it comes

2:25:10 They communicate with us telepathically. I'd probably shut the fuck up too. If I was the after a careful review of the data, Does he disclose that? So the president can't do it. And who is that? What do we represent? 4% of the world population? nobody's got a plan. There is no plan in place. Wow. on the way he puts things together, Probably on iTunes and Amazon, I'm guessing. But it has a cast of characters that deal with

2:27:44 And if this turns out to eventually get released, you're a is very important I really really believe that and if this turns out to man I'm glad you're out there