Joe Rogan Experience #1977 — Dave Smith Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience Well, they would know that we'd be open. Yeah, I'm sure that's true. But it's cool to see something, you know, like there's something cool don't want to go back and close for two weeks so you can do new construction and fix something and You texted me, or I texted you congratulating you Like, you know that you're not really a headliner.

3:45 Yells at people. any names but i've seen i've seen a couple hot ones yeah yeah yeah yeah it's the most fun people Hell yeah. that's something that a lot of these clubs just forgot. could be funny and you can get up yeah and when you know one of the things that's cool about it that's especially in cities across America now. who's looking to get offended at something I'm saying?

6:34 I will hold it up in this crowd of people that are trying to enjoy something that's Donald Trump you could feel the tension in the room where people being like you better not like him like you better get to the He was chanting out That part. It's a really weird impact that he had on people where he just got them so angry that He doesn't even get like a shot at contention here.

8:58 Seems like he didn't like JFK. He was a wild dude. shit watch me shit while you while you talk to someone about cambodia yeah but yeah that's a I mean, we've bantered about it, you and I, and a lot of other people have as well. Like, What's the plan? by making Kamala Harris his vice president. I mean, it's kind of a bitch move, though. Time is like time.

11:49 Because you can't be this dumb. Like it was a thing that he wanted to do. It was like they had these these diversity and inclusivity checkpoints that they had to reach. important for representation and i'm like i would i could see how you would say that in a lot of intelligent people that think it's important for representation and i'm like i Then you would just go, well, make it a meritocracy

14:15 Like, why would that not be better? no one ever wants like your surgeon to be picked is that Chinese lady the best? It's interesting because it's like, We have systemic problems in America that never get addressed until those and this is like You could fix that. You know what I'm saying? And so it's kind of like, you know, it's just, well, it's racism or it's systemic racism, just these kind of terms that aren't specific.

18:02 I believe the black legitimacy rate was higher than the white legitimacy rate at the time. And then when once they legalized alcohol again, it drastically reduced in the next few years. They'd freak the fuck out. Yeah. Well, getting the political will up to do it is something. that Bill Clinton signed into law. Like the, cause I think that if we did legalize all drugs and it happened quickly,

21:08 So you wouldn't have, you would have, I think it would reduce overdoses in that sense Yeah, there's a guy named John Norris. having gunfights with cartel members instead of it being like game warden now it became like years or something. I mean, it's like, or maybe more than that. Is it 50 years now? Yeah. I think You could walk right over there. who was the champion of it for those entire 50 years.

24:40 They're so funny how Dylan Mulvaney is You know, it's just like, And then he goes, What was the thing that he said something about, You're like, just stop making Biden talk about this stuff. Yeah, it's very interesting. I was shocked he did that. RFK will rip that old man up. And it's a it's a real issue that he has. He job really, the job is really a speaking tour. Yeah. And it's a real issue that he has issues speaking.

28:07 oh, you know, this is a conspiracy theory And you guys have been following this playbook forever. And like damned if anyone can argue that that's not true. like I married a third cousin type Kennedy. But the thing is, they don't want that. at least to some degree. But I know that his dad was completely convinced that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy that they weren't telling us about.

30:37 while I disagree with my opponent, I respect his opinion or something like that. It was evil to his family. If you read that book, just when they talk about what they did during the AIDS pandemic, holy shit, man. during the pandemic, You know, like we have consensus amongst the scientists that this is we need lockdowns machine. And you're like, oh, there's such perverse incentives here and so it's like and and the people realize this when after time it just gets demonstrated that what they were saying is

33:38 And it would be like, look at this covid misinformation. spreading. Let's put that up against. And at the same time fauci was saying if you get the vaccine I felt that we overreached when we were making that claim. And millions of people lost their jobs over this. physically, vaccine injuries, you know, ostracized from their communities, how many marriages

36:07 Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's really like it's something to look back on it now a few years later and just like how crazy it was that we did this, like the lockdowns that you were just like people were at home watching TV to find out from their governor holding a daily press conference telling you what you're allowed to do today. That was reality. And if you think about it from like a mental health point of view,

36:53 So yeah, like you said, for people who are on the edge All that stuff. I think it's one of the greatest crimes perpetrated on the American people by the government. And he out and out lied. We have to forgive people. about Arnold Schwarzenegger and stuff like that and all that. with it imagine if the pandemic was worse imagine if this disease instead of killing a fraction of

39:29 But when he said it, the first thing I'm thinking of, it's like, oh yeah, no, even in your scenario, What are you going to do to the person who says, I don't want to get the vaccine now? As he signed it into law. Indefinite. If people don't know the reference in the in the NDAA Act forget which year it was Well, the thing is, what's weird is that it is illegal.

42:02 suspected. Well, there was, it was Anwar al-Aw al-haqi and his his son now with the son who was like 14 or 15 they came back and and 12 people who are like pooled randomly and they decide if you're guilty of a crime and by It was over 90%. target of the strikes just means you were put on a list, which is not always, does not and refueling their fighter jets

45:03 He really gave a hell of a speech. It's just like, it's a masterclass on public speaking. It's like, but the way he would deliver it, it really just tugs at your insides and makes you like, God damn. You'd be like, who ruined the 21st century for America? these guys. And obviously we all know it's like, then they narrow it down to two teams and those

47:55 And that is where the country spins out to me. ever going to be given to a junior senator once you're meeting with these people Yeah. just walks in and stands right in front of it which is like crazy disrespectful to do and he And even with Obama, like, you know, if you remember the story with General McChrystal and how he went to the media and told them.

51:08 If I was working on uncovering CIA corruption, I'd probably be drinking. an end date on it he said he wanted to pull the troops out, they lied to him and said there were far less than They were willing to show their powers. But like so many of the Trump haters will talk about like, Yes. And if you're a guy that's involved in doing that, like Jesus Christ, how much power do

55:25 Yeah, I'm sure there are some. But isn't it who's going to watch the watchmen? be prosecuted for that we get. Think about what Assange did, what they're trying to get got to stick to the fucking rules and if you get people in power and no one is able to stop them Fuck the government. She was in government. Not all of them. Developed that white streak in her hair from that.

59:40 A lot a lot of the story of America and how we've just become so degraded really kind of goes back to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the fact that what Charles Krauthammer called the unipolar moment. But it almost created so much power and so much hubris that they just think they can get away with everything. And to me, to me, that's the whole story of the war in Ukraine right now, too.

1:01:08 It's really spooky because so many people are dying. Like he's going to fix it. That machine gets moving. I mean, it's like a tank with no brakes. It's certainly very hard to stop it I want to organize a negotiation. I don't know exactly. impeached, it was famously over the Ukraine gate thing was he said he was they said it was a quid It certainly couldn't be any worse

1:04:23 And I heard back from some people who disagreed the government who were completely against NATO expansion in the 90s when it first started. These aren't the communists. reaction. And then when there's the Russian reaction, they're going to say, see, that's they were saying to each other. And this memo was titled Nyet means Nyet. And it was about Ukrainian

1:07:40 Yeah. Now, there's another memo that comes out later that year where he says, and it's really, it's a really interesting So this was in February. They had the Bucharest summit where NATO announced that Georgia and when there was the coup backed by the West in Ukraine. You know, what I like about these like you know people will say i know people will argue with me on this and they'll say like but

1:11:31 years and slaughtered millions of people. Like from his perspective, when you put dual use rocket that all these guys, these same dumb neocons who had this policy to remake the Middle East, Like, is that really worth it? The North America's position in the world, shit. This is I don't know. I mean if they exist I would I would think China more than anyone, you know

1:14:38 I'll take Poland or whatever. What if he's convinced that he's done and he's going to be overthrown or he's going to die? That's a pretty dangerous scenario too. slave markets that's why will talk about Like how do you know it's not just like a far worse right-wing dictator who comes up and takes over you know what I mean Well, it's unbelievable even the fucking Game of Thrones Kings handle it better. Yeah

1:17:41 You didn't... is the biggest warlord. Terrific. neocons who ended up taking power in George W. Bush's one of the, so basically what it's about, it's what the title is, it's a project for a new There are no real threats to America, our dominance right now. Like all the wise people in government who were opposed to them lost and all the dumb George W. Bushes and Joe Bidens won.

1:20:46 Wesley Clark told this reporter in this interview, find that interview because it's so fascinating. You know, and this is the fact that journalists aren't like putting this in everyone's face by the establishment and weren't I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me, Why? desk, he picked up a piece of paper. He said, I just, he said, I just got this down from

1:23:44 Like he goes, look, they showed me a piece of paper just like this, and just takes her paper. Piece of paper, just like this one. just like like if we didn't have such a We start fighting the war in Afghanistan right, is it just reveals this prop, like the way propaganda works, because if you think about it, like, no, no, no, no. This is just your latest little excuse now for the war that you already

1:26:11 Like my loyalty is to Vladimir Putin or something like that. he gave two speeches, I think, when he first invaded in 2022. But he did one where he like So why the hell can't I? states did what it did to any of these other countries it did to England yeah imagine that imagine if You'd see everybody. he's a suspected uh killer and so we're just going to bomb the building. You know, they're starting

1:29:20 This is so crazy that we're ever Well, and the crazy thing is that, since he first, Yes. It's the Department of Homeland Security to somalia that just doesn't seem quite as real but you're like but those people who were okay I'm letting them babysit my kids today. Like they're comfortable making decisions where innocent people die and die by the millions.

1:31:54 I think two million Vietnamese and something like that died. But I saw a few out clips of it when he's talked about how much he regrets supporting the war in Iraq He's different than people want to pretend he is. How else can you enjoy the music? what the public perception of Tucker Carlson is He's the guy who's having Aaron Matei and Jimmy door. Yeah, right waiters. He's having like that

1:35:57 be clear, they're making this claim and providing nothing to back it up. He really was like, no, it's just, you know, like, look at this dude, Don Lemon is out at CNN, right? I promise you, I hope he goes there. How big his show, he made when he was on the air. They're smart. it's like you're it's like invasion of the body snatchers or something it's like is this the real

1:38:53 but Bill O'Reilly did leave What's that? Yeah. Was that? This is just talking to like my like in-laws about like scanning a document or something But, you know, but it is, By the way, he used to be on both of those networks. Like, from 20 years ago. two could even be in the same room together. unglued like the establishment kind of came unglued um i think the the the george w bush administration um the wars in the financial crisis really set into motion like a bad dangerous thing

1:41:35 for people to fall into that That was about to blow up on the working class in America. So now what do you report on? for what happened here. No, it's not that we failed on the job for 30 years. It's that Russia but I think that cartoon's these disastrous wars and a financial crisis, and after you had the Party and the Occupy Wall Street movement that all of a

1:44:34 I know exactly who you're talking about, who gave the lectures on how the Soviet Union definitely a lot of things that kind of happened exactly like he said they would happen. Yeah. And it's not, you know, it's all it's kind of evolved. it describes wokeism to a T. And that was what Yuri had described in the speech and how it would become how it captivate people

1:46:55 I still have an impulse, We're so accustomed to be able to drive to work and do this and we're perfect and if we could just get a trans president we could fucking solve this like and then you're just like now we of course down the road is a state prison there's a bunch of There's like all of this stuff right around you. What's that story? No, it was the devil.

1:50:18 Like Satan's the... It's the best comedy show of all time by far. But they're just words. that I say coming back out and you're like ah so that's going to be the next chapter when my Dude, it's so funny because you have like this life something to confront here there's two paths number one i can try to watch my mouth and i'm They were like, just don't say it at school.

1:53:10 to grow up that way because you know from the time I was seven I was like I was felt like an I really thought that, man. That makes sense because I was living with my friend Jimmy, Like, I thought we figured this out. But I remember being aware of it. But see, now George H.W. Bush, this hero, he conquered that because they showed how easy the war was.

1:55:20 but easy peasy, that war is over. Why do you think it's bullshit? children just starving due to this blockade. And it was also one of the main things that when a scud missile uh hit those soldiers i remember that was like shocking that a certain whoa. Remember those? believe or wrap your head around like it's so hard it's hard to even think that like in that in a

1:59:25 but Fiona Hill, who, she, that they had a peace deal worked out. and fucking visiting your favorite coffee shop it's hard to believe that you're a part of that This guy is not – again, not a non-interventionist libertarian like me, just like a scholar who's like – talks about foreign policy and stuff. them to play tough with the Russians and it's like don't worry you got America's got your back

2:02:25 You know, I'm like, just kidding. We're stealing Robin away. Ha ha. We distracted you Putin with the Olympics. why shouldn't we intervene militarily? Why isn't America's military going into Ukraine? You know what I mean? what do you think would happen? You know, like it's kind of reasonable to say we cannot tolerate Soviet nuclear warheads pointed at us from a little island a few miles off our coast.

2:05:32 I don't want you interfering in my biggest neighbor right here. And, and a very strategically properly disclose it. He's like bragging to friends on a discord server or whatever. And that Snowden just like gave all of this information out and you're like well Reuters had a piece, an article, Like help assisting them basically but NATO as well. that overthrew the democratically elected government under Yanukovych.

2:10:10 how much uh you know they've i mean nor if the nordstrom bombing didn't you know like do it i pipeline blowing up. Well, not anymore. It doesn't exist anymore. Uh, but I think that cross borders, armies don't have to that old saying, I think it would have been a good thing And that their biggest fear is that Germany and Russia would unite against us.

2:12:57 Well, you know, it's- German independence is a big concern to them. They still live with that kind of like, this is the like Germany was boycotting. to be so harsh on, on Russia. And they're not going to be so willing to play ball with the EU. on power in Germany and they might be tempted to turn that pipeline back on. And so they made sure it's, as Victoria Nuland said, a hunk of metal at the

2:15:43 Now, if you remember, do you remember the story a few months back? But even saying it was an accident. He promised that it would happen. Even I think the New York Times now concluded that they said it was some pro-Ukrainian Something along those lines. you know, He has just announced that he won. And then it did kind of come out as these whistleblowers were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it didn doesn't make any sense. I'm not buying this.

2:18:38 we think Russia blew up their own pipeline. and still feel like we're just the good guys in this war. I'm just talking about Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and you looked at the human race and these patterns that repeat themselves over and over again, you would wonder, like, why aren't they seeing these patterns? governments are power centers it's almost impossible to stop them from just getting bigger

2:21:45 mandates without a huge propaganda campaign. They got to convince you and then try to get away with Yeah. I mean, I remember feeling the strangest sense of patriotism driving down the road and seeing So this has been a couple hours now since the towers came down. And you were like, this is impossible. But I fell for it completely. We go, we're going to kill your fucking people,

2:24:54 Even like the littler ones. Blow shit up. And now you're just continuing this. all that's here is a trump and a biden we're gonna that's all we have it is so entertaining, God damn, Hopefully, there's, like, more. Maybe we can't get away with that. no there's no way you're allowed to have dissident uh doctors and scientists on to give like their musk buying twitter is you kind of see that like yeah that's necessary too you got to have like a

2:29:47 You know like don't just don't get it twisted It's like again like when it's like what I try to say with the Ukraine thing And in the same sense, don't think the people who are like all for big tech don't. Okay, so you might find one example of a dissident who we all agree is a real bad guy or something like that So like like asking him to be removed.

2:31:15 Well, didn't he win his lawsuit against Twitter originally, against the old Twitter regime? Right. saying like even if even if it's not like you have to protect even the dangerous speech otherwise to all kick him off and silence him at once. And this is why Elon Musk pisses them off so much. And that's the correct direction and what's gonna happen next is Hillary Clinton's gonna be president you say that's the next step

2:33:46 It's pretty awesome. Okay. Like, you know what I mean? I love seeing the reaction. So it's actually more – Crystal Ball did a thing on their show kind of breaking this down. So it's actually, of a news organization, them having a little label there, especially one that pisses them off. I love that. Yeah. 69% government-funded media. I think in what he was just fucking with him for a little while, and then he was like, all right, we're not actually going to do that.

2:37:25 it's a good time to show you this video video shows how china is using ai in their schools But schools say it wasn't hard for them getting parental consent to enroll kids into what They're going to kill us. And he was like, I don't know what everyone's talking about with this credit, social credit score. And they're definitely like an authoritarian,

2:39:34 But there were like, but he just got called out like, suggested. I just always get worried about that. in its, how do you say that? Hmm. It's like, no, look, he's got these numbers completely wrong. I do agree though, You'd hold them accountable. There wouldn't and they don't understand human emotions and the way people think and behave that's a that's an

2:43:30 I mean, sent to the least motivated people. it's kind of important that they had that already for years before they they go to school you know But there's also something that we have to take into consideration that there's all, there's a wide spectrum of things that people are interested in. I know. like no fuck it we're not doing this um and then i never did i'm thank god i got off it yeah so

2:46:00 and whether or not you can pay attention can be a disease. What do they play? the stupidest way to think but as a kid that left me thinking about other stuff. what are we going to do about this? the, you know, like right winger types today, they'll be like, oh my God, they're propagandizing these And all they want, like they have this amazing passion for life that's built into them.

2:49:30 I stirred. That's what you've got for me? it's also like there's not that much ability to change things and try new things. Okay. You've got to make it fun. Like in my life, but like three, you know Whatever authority figure is that? Wow. There are some people who are wired for different an artist There are some people who are wired for like different things

2:54:01 it's weird you know it's a it's a sad person to be around. like, well, I can't like, I can't leave and pursue something else. Cause what about all the risks of I did construction or I drove limos. I did stuff that like anybody could do. temporary i could do that that's easy deliver newspapers fine that's just stuff i'm doing I was just programmed so different.

2:56:38 I'm so bored. Well, dude, I mean, I started smoking pot like very young in life, life like 14 maybe and I became like an everyday smoker very quickly I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to go crazy. 14 year olds get high all the time like very very rarely because I was competing so because of that I was always scared to lose and I Was that on here when he said that?

2:58:56 He was so fucking good. And it's just like, it's not even like a competition even about, you're like, there's not even a next fight that I'm dying to see. not the goat I think the argument is the goat total dominance No one has a chance. And it was a repeat of what the guy did to him. to be competing at a very high level then? That guy The Cejudo second fight was very close.

3:02:03 Yeah, he is an unreal talent. Dude. Like I feel like he never got the fight that had like that type of height behind him. Didn't happen. And then GSP also is in the conversation. Like you said, it's like, what do you like? in the later rounds he wins the decision by dominating the later rounds in a fight that was just like dominating everybody. And you remember before the fifth round starts is that he looks at him and he's like, I'm prepared to die for this.

3:05:03 His leg was getting fucked up leg was getting chewed up and and he was cornered and he was taking the last two he was he was getting fucked up his leg was getting fucked up I do like at the end of it, though, not knocking him, just singing his praises. You should move up and go fight a deadweight. Well, I don't think And he got saved Especially, you look at the first round of the first MMA fight. And he drops, yeah, yeah. He was in real trouble. And he was winning? He was standing eight count, which is huge. Especially, you look at the first round of the first MMA fight.

3:06:22 him off in the second fight. We're talking about this insane weight cut that this guy makes to get down to 185 pounds fashion hits him with this monster left hook but that's the thing about that guy that's what's so You know what I mean? be a force at 205 i mean he's a real dangerous guy at 205 he's gonna have a problem with real So he's going to get amazing.

3:09:06 So it's a question. and Bohovic can take it. but he's out for a few years, I think. That's hilarious. the UFC surgeon said it was the worst shoulder injury he's ever seen. Wally's champion of the world, too. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just showing up while you're talking about it. He decided that that injury was too spectacular, that he needed real time to recover.

3:11:56 You're an elite athlete. They can do amazing things with people's shoulders. in that exchange yeah his knee was fucked up man and so from that he goes and wins that fight he Like, you got an artificial disc in your neck and you're fighting. there's really like uh i don't you're not just like building it up you should protect the joint like that's what knees over

3:15:20 Well, I know who's happy right now is the people who run that company with those shoulder Do those shoulder straps a bunch of different mean you like to think someone's listening live like yes I don't know if you've ever used them before. You're swinging them. Because you never know with those people. I'm 99% sure Probably... By the way, Oh my God, that's hilarious.

3:18:12 Sasha's son betrays America. What is his boot? I get it. All right.