Joe Rogan Experience #1986 — Jack Carr Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience Maybe when the kids are out of the house, maybe someday, way later on. Yeah, I think about that too with the podcast. I don't even know what that means. Like if someone takes me to a gala, I have to dress like a monkey, sit there and wait. It's every now and again. I bet. Yeah. I was in the corner calling my wife on Mother's Day and my mom on Mother's Day.

2:52 Yeah, I do too. But like our kid's friend's parents, that sort of thing. in california yeah in california so what are we drinking here what is this all right so right here Here we go. that i'll show you here in a second cigars too yep cigars and this this whiskey and i put them and these guys put in so much time and service to this nation. I didn't think they were going to say, hey, you know what?

5:19 Yeah. Yeah, as opposed to something like NBC or CBS or ABC, I saw a new one today. This is so stupid. The girls see those photos of them in bikinis. I mean, I guess it is, but it's not negative. It's kind of those taking lessons from the past and applying But still, you could put a pause on that. That's why they put it out. And they're going to turn it into good.

7:43 mothers of beer? They put us in bikinis. It's time beer made it up to women. Interesting. Wow. Oh, God. I, there would be no beer. Wow. And some human beings look good in bikinis. I'm going to turn that stuff in. No, I mean, that was crazy to wake up. Yeah. Hooten Young, the guys that we just talked to about this whiskey, that Jack Carr edition right there.

10:23 Yeah. And he said, under these cigars, under each one right here, and there was an explosion, and people died, and they had to abort the mission. Wow, that's incredible. Operator cigars right there. Have you smoked one of these yet? Yeah, thank you. And so this stuff, I think, is launching tomorrow or today when this thing launches. They are very aggressive when it comes to any whiskey that has Jack in it, And so they did the whiskey one, and right away the Jack Daniels lawyers, boom, right on it.

14:01 Well, well. You can look that up, but it was a big thing. That's just lawyers. Really? That is awesome. That is awesome. There it is right there. He's the best. Some dipshits. Hopefully we can work through that. anyway been drinking it for years and uh i was like, hey, just tell them if I ever do a wine that if they were uncomfortable with it, I'll just change it up. Just whatever they wanted. It'll be totally different anyway, but I'll show it to them first. So I told the attorneys, just tell them whatever. We'll have some wine together.

16:54 But it's the same situation. Yeah, it is their job. Yeah, maybe. But out of respect for what they have going on, I'm pencils down on it too. So all the writers that are part of the WGA, pencils down on all their projects right now. And so that's not part of it either. head, AI hits the news this January. Of course, AI with chat GPT and all that stuff, and people

18:53 but it's just how do you deal with streaming and how do we deal with AI? write the first novel, the first chapter in the next Jack Carr, James Reese terminalist thing. Yeah. Cause you don't have the same novel every time. My, my next sentence to be better than, uh, than the sentence before. So it's, um, so this one, So as much thought goes into any Instagram post or blog or question for a guest on my podcast or whatever it is,

21:18 He's learning, taking those past successes and failures No big deal. They just waded into this thing. They should have laid low. one of those guys that does a lot of posts on lifting weights and technique and killing it in the corporate world. but particularly in the way they dress right because one of the things about trans people man we fucked up like if they just played that clip like that like a 10 second clip

24:31 No, no, no, no. I do remember those, but I did not know that was Survivor. Didn't he pass away? and we traveled around, If I saw it, I'd know it. He's a big boy. That's pretty serious. I can't stop peeing. It's a lot like water. You're going to replace it with this fucking mentally ill person? They should have gone back to another real men of genius.

26:55 The trans folks don't want it. I don't care. I believe so. Let's find out who owns Anheuser-Busch. Those actually were from China. How are they not sealed? I got a feeling this is going to keep going. So we have this podcast that we do called Protect Our Parks that I do with Shane Gillis We got to look it up. Yeah. Beer. It's a psychological operation.

29:11 I would have said go with Canadian beer You don't hear about somebody saying they want to go out and have a nice Canadian meal. I saw that somewhere. Okay, so I do know that guy. The more countries like stay in the kitchen, Get away. Canadian. Kill yourself if you like Canadian bacon It is Poutine's good. Actually, Canada has some good food. Yeah. Super nice guy.

31:49 take advantage of me these people are like making it uncomfortable for people to go to his business pesticides herbicides like It depends. So I said like, if you catch a fish, no one's upset with you. Just meat. That was okay, right? Yeah, that was probably the last time I hunted bears. It's a crazy spot. Their deer population, their moose population, all depends on it.

34:24 Yeah. Longest most intense grizzly bear fight he's seen? This is a few days ago here. Look at that thing. Oh, boy. That's incredible. Fuck, man. Oh, look at that, though. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Eh. Oh, man. It is the best unintentional comedy that's ever been made. The bear guy always gets eaten by the bear. Well, that guy was very, very sad.

38:35 Yeah. I just think this guy just was very sad. But I'm not gay. I've never eaten a brown bear. No, I have not eaten That's why like a buck. Yeah, which is kind of crazy. I believe it. because this lion was eating some of their livestock. And they're like, oh, guess what? why is there not hunting here? but there's none of that. So what do they do? but that's the problem

41:12 based on something Let me think about this And also, there's the thing about wildlife conservation that's very uncomfortable. But they don't. Yes, and a beautiful one, really. population decline. And I was heading up to see Steve Rinella in Montana very comfortable hanging out in the backyard. But I thought they were going to die this winter I think they found a barn somewhere with some heat and some feed.

44:11 up to roost and or come down and that's that's pretty cool that's pretty cool but yeah i've um Let's find out. Right on. It wasn't 101 or 99. Like, you were on it. That's less. Nice. I nailed it. You did. Right on. Only once. I got two whitetail and a neal guy. That's what I like. Really good. Like just as a food, as a superfood. Just kidding. which the first one is on the 1983 Beirut Barracks bombing.

46:37 and knowing that I was going to go in the military, there was two actual car bombs, So a little smaller than an aircraft carrier, but take Marines around who wanted to keep them on those ships in a little We can look it up exactly so I don't mess it up by one or two. Yeah. I wrote about it in the second novel, in True Believer. And I got that from someone who's also been on this podcast, Peter Zehan, wrote a book back in 2014. And so I used that. I read that on my flight to Mozambique, where I was doing research for the second novel, even though I didn't have a deal for the first novel yet. I hadn't even turned that in, but I always knew I was going to write two.

48:48 and that one takes off. then I'll maybe reevaluate my choices. He's so sure of what he's saying, too. So read that book. Amazing, amazing book. reasons behind it and uh talks about the ethnic russian population in ukraine being the largest NATO expansion, promises. So I like to look at things through the enemy's eyes, which I did in What did you think about the blowing up of the pipeline?

52:10 And there was an assistant secretary of state, I think she was, saying similar things out there. Is it a lack of common sense or is it a willingness to ignore consequences because of the financial interest or the political interest in what you're trying to accomplish? And then for some reason, and that means that there were people in those positions before who

54:25 on military history, strategy, tactics, doesn't know anyone in the military, maybe even never seen took these generals and admirals coming back, and they interviewed them. And they thought these who's been deployed overseas, who's been in these conflicts, Oh, my God, Soviet Union is now Russia. And then they see what happens over there. who didn't come home or who came home changed forever because of post-traumatic stress

57:31 and they all say pretty much the same thing. And Greg Wilhock spells it all out. Eisenhower warned us about this at the end of World War II when he's leaving office He warned us about it in the 50s and said there is a military I know. And what did it do? Well, politicians that need to galvanize bases, of course, and the social media companies themselves who have lobbyists in Washington who pay a lot of money to these politicians.

1:00:45 like a person, with our Easter photo together. Yeah, so that's an advertisement It's one thing it's Mother's Day. So you're trying to sell it to people instead of just living it. And they're a crazy person. missed it she's 17 so she got a little bit of it but i think she was the internet if she grew up And these are just unique challenges that exist.

1:03:15 And if there's a nuclear disaster, you know, it's that Einstein quote, I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War four will be fought with rocks and sticks. Oh interesting is who benefits if you use even tactical nuclear weapons But if you want to invade a country because you want its population and because you want Yeah, so it's tough.

1:04:43 for fewer reasons and want to serve and they started businesses and made money and want to give back and they're concerned about the future of the country. It's part of the ecosystem. And it's how whole thing. It's part of that established part of that permanent Washington. It's part of the ecosystem. And it's it's how it is. That's the motivation.

1:05:55 No, this guy's getting foot jobs and putting it on his laptop and then dropping it off in Maryland. In the news from my understanding, is the professional I mean, just the fact that he's just completely unqualified to be in those positions that he's at, And it's like, we are so fucking lost. Never are it's so tough. They lie about anything that's gonna damage their party

1:09:06 And it was always a little shaky, your confidence in an intelligence service just in general. Yeah. you know, my young kids, I'm talking, not my, my oldest is 26. I don't, my, my, when I'm talking And so what we do is we go back and talk about all those sacrifices that were made so we can have these options and opportunities in the hopes that our kids take a pause and actually become part of the solution and respect what has happened in the past so that we can be this country we are today.

1:10:55 There were people that didn't want it to happen. And the Biden administration has deleted tweets because they've been checked. Really? Really? And that's how you get QAnon. And it's given me great sanity over the last few years. I was like, But these girls are- Yeah. have their opinions they're allowed to be angry they're allowed to be bitter Kill themselves and they're there, you know

1:14:45 And it would make me feel bad. But that's just what. my god damn no and he's brilliant yeah he's a very smart man so for him to fall and you went to Iraq because I'm not quite people who grassroots, like before I, you know, before you invite me on here, before I, before and then say thank you in the post Really? If he can't listen to music, then that's cheating. He just needs to listen. Oh, Wow, that's interesting. Is that cheating then? If he can't listen to music, then that's cheating.

1:17:19 and kind of have a little fun with them. And when I went on Tucker But every single day we realized, and we're making that show, that we're not making it for critics. like, oh god, are they going to be able to you gotta do that. But anywhere we could, anywhere we could root this in the realities of modern combat, we were going to do that. That is very cool.

1:19:19 That's cool, too. gonna hate it anyway and that's okay that's not their thing there's plenty of other things out So spinoff is there's a character, Ben Edwards. without interruption. I don't know where my wife and kids were, but we did the premiere in June. I came home and for some reason I had a day David DiGilio, and he loved it. rather than revenge thriller, action thriller,

1:21:40 True Believer starring Chris Pratt. That's awesome. Have they made progress with the strike? Yeah, when someone crosses the rioter strike, that's some dirty shit. Yeah. Interesting. Because people ask me about you. You know, how could you fake this And it's also like there's an audience there. Scott Eastwood. Strong genes. That is. Yeah, those are good ones seems like an awesome guy. That's some strong genes.

1:24:31 Great fucking genes, though. I ran into Chris once, and the actual hotel. But, and we'd spent some time together in Utah, you and Chris out there. But, yeah, Chris saw it early because Jared Shaw, my buddy, gave him a copy because of a favor I did for Jared and the SEAL teams, And he said, well, I'd like to give it to a friend of mine if that's okay.

1:26:03 Chubby Chris Pratt in Parks and Rec. But I thought of Chris Pratt. I thought about my background in the SEAL teams and coming home to wife and kids and all that stuff and having to flip that switch. and a movie called Shooter Do you ever wonder nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, reading all these guys like Tom Clancy and Nelson DeMille and A.J. Quinnell and J.C. Pollock and Mark Olden and Louis L'Amour and Stephen Hunter, all these guys back in the 80s who had protagonists with backgrounds I wanted in real life one day.

1:28:17 at the right time and place. So I never worried about not making it. I only saw number one New I didn't worry about the odds. Anybody says that, you stop talking to them. You might make it, but you might fall. I can remember what it was like to be a sniper in Ramadi or what it was like to be ambushed in Baghdad in 2006. And being a part of all that from the inside, I learned so much over the last couple of years.

1:30:53 So I'm going to write James Reese for as long as I possibly can do that and have the nonfiction that I'm so passionate about with history. Some other, exactly, both. He's the guy. Yeah. who you have you've grown up watching who during the time was it's kind of covid well it is covid Yeah. Have a coffee with him. hartley and she's been around that lady's done some great movies amazing movie and so nice and

1:33:45 It's awesome. Yep. you would never guess it. Yeah. it comes down to Chris and Antoine to the leadership and it comes down to them And so many people came up to me on set and they didn't have to. Yeah. It's almost like destiny. Do you read, do you listen rather to audiobooks? by the Shakespearean trained actor. I think about him now as I'm writing. hey, are you writing about me? Nope. Nope. Not yet. Not yet. But for the people

1:37:13 than they actually are. or is that just your knowledge of that? and now they're on this board. I've never had even my publisher, and I didn't know going in what was going to happen with agents and publishers. And if they were going to say, okay, we have this. But team oriented on this side, only me on this side. That's very fortunate. Oh, wow. I mean, that's what they did with the Chappelle show.

1:40:46 and he was like, Like, No way. and just didn't, I mean, It was the biggest show on cable. Like what they do at South Park. really, really funny, and they came in And he just said, fuck this. Yeah. He came by. Perfect. then to build this what you built here is so inspiring and so cool um but that one when i saw It's pretty cool. I left LA in the middle of this Spotify

1:44:27 Like, it's like that way. Like, when I feel like something is the thing to do, you should take a risk. You've got to be able to just jump on it. So bold adjustment. Bold adjustments is what they told us. Yeah. Yeah, who knows? Maybe you're just doing it over and over Let's get the fuck out of there. Time to go. Nobody on the roads, nobody on the 405.

1:46:53 That was genius. I mean, what fantastic level of manipulation and propaganda did they impart on the United States that that was a conspiracy theory? And that's what it was. And there's still people out there that deny that. book for people that have come on thus far. I don't know if I'll always be able to. Um, but, So this one guy steps up, goes in for the person who's sick. And he's the one guy who studied the United States.

1:49:40 Korean Airlines flight 007 that was shot down earlier. There's all these things happening that would lend themselves to... So well after the end of the Cold War. into the pages of this novel. Russell Brand's podcast and the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA asset Don't give it away. Yeah, no, no. But, uh, you'll like, when you get to the certain part,

1:51:46 But they're certainly going well out of their way to make themselves look guilty. But it was a weird way that he did it. But as it pertains to the Kennedy assassination, it is so strange. come in. And you look at the picture and you look at the chair and it's him in that chair 63 is a long time ago when you're a kid. Jesus. World War I veteran, which is pretty cool. And so my daughter, who's 17, we went to Pearl Harbor

1:54:46 How many, what percentage of guys died on that beach? And that's a little different. They did this study, and they found, I think it was World War I. I might get this a little off, but the general gist is on track. And they found that people dying in the North Atlantic that were there like treading water, trying to survive, trying to signal another boat, were the older guys were surviving and the younger guys that should be in better shape their whole life ahead of them were the ones that weren't.

1:56:15 thing in the world of fighting because as the as fighters get older they they have more experience Yeah. That's right. way right yeah he wouldn't even know stuntman no makeup either cowboy didn't put on makeup good insisted on falling a very specific way, right? Yeah. No stuntmen, And they're like, Nope. to spend some time with a lot of fucking adversity.

1:57:37 Bam. Yeah. because he's always doing things like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we got there, and he's surfing out there. And they have a photographer there who's studying sharks at the University of Hawaii. And the same day we find out that on Oahu, somebody got chomped. on or whatever it might be but i like the flying around so the flying around was very cool in free

2:01:10 Yeah, he was filming it. Yeah. So you have the jump masters desert looking for the bodies and uh and we still had to get back and uh and jump again after that Just a solid human being. Maybe. Was he doing base? He's out of his fucking mind. Look at him go. That's fucking crazy. And I see that one right there in the far right. I got to get out there.

2:04:08 How they made them. when I think about America today, So if you're, let's say you're Iran, you're Russia, you're China, you're North Korea. And I'm sure they're helping. of the top Christian sites 19 of the top 20. okay, I go back and forth and back and forth. A lot of those sightings were, in fact, the black helicopters. these models of a stealth bomber and it was pretty dang close when they actually revealed it years

2:06:30 But two guys, Ryan Graves and Commander Fravor. They saw it visually. under the water because there was ripples like there was like almost like a submarine jeez so whatever that thing was that that they encountered that sort of that man uh commander fravor who is so And they're seeing these things that are 120 knot winds, completely motionless, just staying totally still.

2:08:35 They don't know what they are. have written a book. and all that sort of thing? I got obsessed Because you're talking, He worked back engineering this thing that they said that they had recovered. doesn't exist in a vacuum. You need to communicate with the people that were the propulsions experts they were not allowed to communicate with people who supposedly had some sort of contact with the biological entities and

2:11:15 incredible too is this one of these guys one of the soldiers that was in this documentary they That is wild. drinking and uh and nixon was like you want to see a fucking ufo no way yeah and and he flew him to in the shape of a UFO afterwards. He had a UFO house built. Yeah. That's the guest house the other one I'm going to talk to my wife about this when I get home. This is serious.

2:13:41 If they attack. If they do attack, I think I mean, this is the wildest of speculations. is because that is a specific moment in UFO folklore when the aliens start arriving. After It's like- that they see that we have nuclear power, the rest of the universe. Very well. Like, that's the time to watch. Yes. You know, it's like, what is it? guesswork. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. You get to hear

2:17:40 everything was he knew the people there they knew him it's wild shit man because if he's telling the truth And we're just like, eh. Buck Rogers. And here's the password for your internet thing. You're flying through the air. Yeah. Like, I won't go into the comments on this one. Yeah, there's the sentence about it in the earlier chapter. There's some interruptions in our house with three kids, dog, and everything else going on.

2:20:36 And you can be solely focused on that task at hand. And so they're doing all those other things. You're building and you're solely focused on it and your family's over here. on there and I go oh and I stop I stop. I stop what I'm doing. And so same thing. And they get you early. Once you're Apple, they like, they get you, don't let anybody give that fucker away. Yes. tell it like if i get a group text exactly and there's a group text with

2:23:17 It's nuts. And some people abuse the shit out of that. phones on airplane mode and and then i leave i gotta have dinner with my family i got shows i Rambo First Blood Part II comes out. to that. I'm going to try to get to that I think we're a decade or so turkey fly? There's negative consequences to every generation that's ever existed. So video discs are not. No, not late 70s.

2:25:52 and it leaves the disc in there that's plastic. Oh, yeah. There it is. Wow. Atari, too. Or just like a. Why is, like, wood paneling? Like, Atari, too. VHS, or VCR, Yeah, no phones. And it's just attached with the cable to the charger. that sort of thing being busy because for me But right now, it's shot out of that can every morning. The dream was, I mean, you're living the fucking American dream.

2:28:31 It's impossible to quantify with how many people listen to this and see you and see what you've created and what you've done and what you've built. I mean, but everybody's different. Yeah. You have opportunity here. You're not forced into doing what your father did or whatever else. set up better. They, this, they, that, but you, if you're listening to this, you live in a rare time.

2:30:21 So they do everything they possibly can, sacrifice everything to come here. Yeah. and he said, that you still remember me And their job is to protect, yet they have to let through. It's crazy. where walls were meant to keep people in. I mean, it's extremely tough. And then they get destroyed online because of these comments or whatever it might be.

2:33:16 You can weaponize all of it. percussion rifle and brought it, showed it to me at this book signing. And what a great guy. And I think about them every day. And it's a tough position to be in. or I want to teach them math or whatever it might be. Politically. And Austin here, you guys have that going on right now, right? Yeah. There's definitely a decrease in police presence.

2:36:09 Nice. That's what I worry about the book tour. which is very, very cool. I know. Only the Dead. Thank you.