Joe Rogan Experience #1995 — Chad Stahelski Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Okay. It's fresh. I'm going to see. Anyway, man, congrats on the movie. Boy, Jesus Christ, is it over the top. By a long shot. Yeah. Hopefully it's artistic murder porn. But it's definitely wrapped up in the hyper real world. We're never going to do one again. Because that's like, there's got to be a lot of barriers that are in the way.

3:10 He could be anything, that kind of thing. You're off. And, you know, at the time, you remember, back in the day, It's Keanu. I'm here for the that started Jet Li and they're like okay had a good gymnastic background. So I'd throw a backflip. I'd do the kicks. I'd do all the spin sci-fi movie in Australia and I was like yeah I got this other gig on TV I think

6:29 how i got in with the wachowskis and i spent the next eight and a half years with them through all the fight scenes, the car chases, the sunsets, Derek Kolstad being the writer of it. I think only two people died in the original script. And I was like, sure, sure, sure. we might have a shot. We got to put a pitch together in 24 hours. And Keanu just heard it on Monday

9:01 We took Aikido, Aikijutsu, put it all in the close quarter, flip come from? That I was like, that's awesome. Wow. But in that movie – But choreography and for the visual of it, i think sometimes you have to add something you have to show people something they kind of expect subvert it and give them something a little Like, he's, no one, let's be honest, no one should be that good.

11:02 And what a great instructor, too, because he's so calm and easy. Oh, for sure. And to watch what he had done with him in three weeks, I mean, granted, there is a little unnatural ability there, I could tell, He's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And no red dot. All the time. But he's helped me so I can – he's got me to the point where I can kind of go through the range with both hands

13:36 It wasn't so much that they were better, they just, you weren't used to fighting with them. Well, kickboxing, well, MMA in particular, like the elite guys like Sanhagen, these guys, so they would fall from what's a false lead and you see so much of that now and i mean you're No ifs, ands, or buts. I mean, they're zero range. It's mental. It was almost a stylistic civil war going on.

16:06 Then I started karate. from Massachusetts Kali and Silat then we get these you know guest appearances by like all these great martial art instructors and Everything. I think he was the bad guy in. explaining to his son, who's also Just never left set. Always there ready to do his thing. Explain it. We're going to do a campsite fire. dan louse and the cinematographers on it and to try and take it and give visual cues to the audience

19:38 You always need one anchor. Like, you know, we all, we're probably the same generation. No, just, it's all car. Yeah. an incredible car yeah he makes we have to check that out that sounds awesome pull it up i'll show And so he built this car assembly to get this When I saw it in the previews, I was like, yes, he listened. That was a problem. Joe Rogan's going to fucking hate me.

22:38 Yeah, you don't want to get the early Barracudas. So we brought him into my son quitter Scott Rogers and Steve Dunleavy brought him into T.C. Chicano and they had Keanu and John Wick 2 Well, it worked. It had that like matrix green that looked- Yeah, I like the Chevelle. looking for all the different muscle cars in Europe. We wanted something else, and we ended up getting this, and we're like, oh, my God.

24:49 Chevelle's weird because, like, the old ones are nice. Well, I think that's what we were really trying to, We're thinking no one's ever going to see it. about action movies. or like, about Mission Impossible? I have a color fetish. And we'll go, okay, this guy just wants to get home. ever. Because, like, the And it's this thing called MyZones. he kept talking shit I go dude I'm gonna kill you I'm gonna I'm put it up just because I'm like, I'm going to kill you. Because he kept talking shit. I go, dude, I'm going to kill you.

28:00 So I'm on an elliptical machine watching that scene with a remote control. Just on loop. carried me through the whole sober October Yeah. When it was done, though, you had to know you nailed it. Thank you. So me, Dave, and Keanu sneak in real low-key we're gonna do a little we're first time stunt guys but it's an action movie, right? He's like, okay. And he's going to shoot all this stuff.

30:19 They're like, what happens next? Like, everyone's on board. like we better go find some stunt jobs and then it worked out and then um like uh not even a month you're in completely nutty man okay It was just go into a room and not leave until we came up with an idea. And we're sitting there and we had got the call to, okay, we got to come up with an idea.

32:29 his fucking car back i'm like that's a great opening he's gonna get the car back yeah no when he just he's very not compulsive he's very uh he loves the art of things yeah he loves the art of I think so. or at least the really, I could talk to you all day about movies. learn how to do nothing he just everything you need to know about So we gave him, like, I think three to five weeks

35:14 jujitsu striking everything the jujitsu was the new thing for him probably not the most physically Most of what we do is dance. because if a guy can punch and kick that's great hitting some kind of sequence but we realized we had no money and we had no time and every time And every time I cut, it's a setup. what it was, but we're going to do all great, we're going to do

37:21 yeah, we thought it was a complete disaster after the I mean, Ippon Seinagi looks the same. sound effects and you put in the muzzle and then you put in the fucking reload And for the people out there, a blank is a round without the actual bullet, the lead piece that hits. with blanks over the years. close quarter shooting. we went to our VFX guys So we went and we found the armors through Taron and the technologies that we found through the armors.

39:39 In England they I mean like you know you seen like a Tarantino like in Django Tarantino still uses old-school blood packs The muzzle flashes, we actually shoot against a green screen, and we'll call them elements. And Keanu, he had the flu. Filming it with the flu. They'll call it quits for the day. We only get one shot. It was a shut down little club that we just kind of opened back up and put our own lighting rig in there and just kind of lit it up.

42:21 right always getting killed you have to do was right there. Kirk was transported down to the planet with the red shirt guy. So we just got all the stunt guys red shirts. you know it's weird I guess when you're in it you're just trying world and say, You know, and you're kind of going, and Bloodsport 3. He's very good. But when it was time to do this, we called in every favor we had.

44:44 He's a great guy, right? You put them in the cool spots. he's awesome oh yeah no super fun i mean that's always the trick but like if you get the the what are you doing here? He's like, I just thought I'd come in early and talk to Ian and, you know, and you don't know this until you try it a couple times but then you watch the movie as a whole It's all about the pacing, right? So what, what I learned from it is you got to sit and every time you make, when you're in that place where you can just make these one minute or two minute changes,

47:32 And then you're like, still, we're not there. in a good way because you can feel it right you can feel there's something cool there and you can Like, it's not like the old days where you cut film and glue it. like you're on the right path, even though you don't know it. Does that make sense? we want less action. Like you just couldn't tell what people wanted. But you listen to what they

49:55 I mean, whether you like it or not, you know, like the crew is really good, you know, that kind of thing. with or like you know the critical drinker all these great guys on youtube are just fucking But it's very interesting to see what does touch. what everybody wanted to see, I was actually just talking to a friend the other night that he said he thinks about negative comments while he's writing his jokes.

51:51 or move the needle right the way we need to do i think we got to take chances right otherwise That would be great. And I'm a big fan. Like, you know, things that were kind of so nutty and wacky. You know how long it takes to train Belton Malone to bite a crotch? we have these cool little Kevlar suits. our, trainers wearing a bite suit that, you know, all fucking Kevlar pad. You've seen them. It's

55:12 And the dog's been trained to attack green. They're not trained to kill or to bite. we're working with. And for an hour and a half a day, each stunt guy that worked with and the dog will go in and bite and belgians once they clamp that's why they call them like to every take was a new dog, So Hallie, for like, I think it was almost eight and a half months, actually, Hallie would come in and she'd learn to train them.

57:52 Yeah, they're intense dogs. Oh, my God. Yeah. were both they they spoke the same language they loved they loved him so whenever we needed a dog Yeah. And so then we moved to Mastiffs. What did they have to do? The dog's name is Curly. Yeah. His name is Johnny Cash. on, it hurts, but it's 65 pounds. She's so good in that movie. hey, would you like to meet Halle Berry?

1:02:28 She just walks in, jeans and a T-shirt, goes, hi, I'm Hallie. And I'm like, I'm flattered. Thank you. That's very cool of you. We haven't even written it yet. Yeah, I know. That's just i'm i'm going to be in your movie and i'm like that's i'm flattered no just i'm gonna start training today just tell me what to do wow she was so on it just on i was like okay well first let's get you into shape tell your trainer this Just tell me what to do. Wow. She was so on it, just on it.

1:03:41 So she just went crazy the first time. I don't believe John Wick is dead. three four years you gotta take him to that bar in japan and get him drunk we're going in september To see her in person. Like, never stop. That's awesome. right? They learn their lines so, so much. They can just flow. They spend so much time doing that It's pretty cool. It's out?

1:06:54 But it does have a, it has the continental in it. the door at the bar, I made a door like that But yeah, it's the same sort of deal. It's like this fucking real heavy steel door. Yeah. and then number four was like just John Wick 4. only relate to people a warrior can only relate to a warrior you know whether you're on other The actual treatise, distributed worldwide it's because you know it's like i'm sure you know you're always going to piss

1:10:34 That's a good question. But it works. I love, you know. The suits and the guns. Like this whole scene is awesome. That guy right there, the ball guy right there. He was in, God, he's so good. The Suits and the Guns. Yeah, you just buy him as a complete psycho. He played the Italian spy. number four like uh the the the actress that plays uh akira that's reena samayama she's a pop star

1:12:32 Sometimes you get really lucky Like the shotguns that spit fire. i guess i didn't want it to make it feel like it was a mistake or we were just trying to do the one up thing. Because why fall down? Because we've watched some of those clips, you miss there's a penalty well how about the one, he's still doing, like, these are all great gags. And, like, if you miss, there's a penalty.

1:14:39 And when he's got, like, watch the shit he's doing here. Watch this. The stunt guy would do it a couple times. like, look at that. But that's, you know, so like, Yeah, the trolley go. you have to be so Like this. Back then when you broke your neck? Look, and he got up. You know, and Harold Lloyd was no slump either. Keanu Stunt double, this guy, Vincent from France.

1:17:38 Then we'll send him down. second take is the take that's in the movie where it just went all the way down like 200 steps yeah Right? Yeah. Yeah, he gets hit by a bunch of cars. I was like 20 feet away watching it going, oh, that was a great hit. Yeah, it still sucks oh absolutely Christ but like the the downside just in case he gets So that's, again, just having the right people.

1:20:21 It's just what gives you that energy or that what that that that feeling of what's going on Yeah. It's so subtle. It's so different. Oh, yeah. But I would agree, man. but I'm putting the shotgun stuff We see one stunt guy on fire run in You can check it out. There's this great YouTube video with this Russian guy. He does all this stuff. was surfing through the internet i was going like i was looking up like we already did the benelli

1:23:31 I got to go ramp somewhere. It's crazy. again like an AR or a 308 or something right so it wasn't gonna be a shocking right like You have Hong Kong Massacre it's fucking cool. I don't. Yeah. Well, you know, that's part of the thing with the writer's strike right now. You'll have some people might critique going, well, why are we talking about AI? I mean, we've seen what it can do.

1:26:35 They're not really making these. you're kind of inputting Alex Gray is a famous I mean, but it's stealing from his style. I like it because I like to look at it. I mean, what the fuck, man? I think we're still a ways off from that as far as live action film goes, I think that's a legitimate concern. As far as the overall i i don't i agree with you i think it's a concerning thing

1:28:54 There's going to be some people that are, I don't give a fuck. as far as like illustrators for like the cover of books I mean, I think, you know, directors come in yeah there's still those moments that i think how about al pacino having a kid at 82 Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, maybe he needs to get a DNA test done. That's a. That flavors the entire rest of the room.

1:31:25 Yeah. That's not enough trust out there anymore. Yeah. like yeah go ahead and all that with the book it's about Manson He visited Jack Ruby in jail after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. Tom O'Neill was a guy who was a neighbor from my friend Greg Fitzsimmons. He keeps having to give money back and the publishers are freaking out at him. They had this guy and these flower children.

1:34:26 what they did and you know they were involved in all kinds of shit with that back then you know that's on Netflix. weeks and months and like he had no human touch Jesus yeah so he became like It's probably not just AI. Yeah, which is evolution. All I'd have to do is give us free electricity, free food, free internet, and an app that Good luck having relationships.

1:37:26 experiences surreal to the point that they feel real well that's the worry about the simulation and there's infinite numbers of life forms that are where we are and superior and then superior to that. which makes it a little bit mmm there's a whole thing i remember after that came out was 98 99 everyone was really I want more. Right. How do you keep the machine going? How do you keep the gerbil on the wheel?

1:39:37 It's a desire that human beings have that no other animal has. But you personally don't do it? TikTok's where I draw the line. I don't have a TikTok. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Plus for you. Good for you. I'm going to say, Adrian, I'll let my assistant do it. TikTok's where I draw the line. American spyware. Of course. Somebody's sharing it.

1:40:54 Yeah. Like, look, if you love camping right on, because like, you know, I don't need to videotape myself rolling to know I love jujitsu. No, absolutely. Because it's weird. But again, we're in the entertainment industry, so they're trying to get themselves out there because that's not how you get jobs. Yeah. I'm like, do you have any pictures of me that are out there?

1:42:38 Yeah. like that's interesting I thought it was interesting at the but he's like, don't worry, I won't post it. Like, that's interesting. I thought it was interesting it was aware of that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's it. They know how to edit shit. not yeah a bus for figuring that that's pretty dope I like I did that's that's a Like, what do you mean?

1:45:21 Yeah, you can start deep faking people literally on your iPhone right now. That's another thing that's fucking people up is these filters where girls see these girls that have this perfect face and perfect skin. Isn't that creepy though? what's possible cosmetically did change the performance. You know what I mean? So you've come in, you've committed

1:47:04 cast or when we're doing a dangerous stunt or we have like a helmet on a guy we'll erase it Right. Looking like a person. But the technology's there. You know, I mean, that's why a lot of directors get into animation. Yeah. And then Apple released that thing today. Really? I'll look at this one. minority reporting moving stuff around yeah underrated yeah very underrated

1:51:02 I have to do well. We'll find out you talking, you don't want to see the world. You've got your goggles on and you have five individuals It's great. Whoa. Yeah. When I used to go to the pool hall, the most valuable thing was the payphone. Yeah. Yeah. on your phone I mostly take an iPad like people like kind of discipline that's required to like. That's what your iPhone is.

1:53:51 It's good for something like that. And you take it as real real which is the scarier part go to DuckDuckGo And this is just Chat GPT-4. It does get funky. Right. but I don't think he anticipated AI and things like this. Right. What's the waiting time? Yes. Yeah, didn't quite have it yet. Well, they've all been busted. Really? So I go, oh, okay. But I didn't have the idea.

1:57:34 Biden falls down. Ha ha, everybody talks They're kind of clunky with their way of doing it Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah. get my retail we just go watch we observe yeah or read you know whatever He actually copied it. They're like, well, let them fucking sue us. cause trouble or you're never gonna work again that's a horror story it's scary but that is

2:00:54 I am doing the book. Well, yeah. all of it I still have hard copies it's not all digital copies properties these things like john wick it's like that that's a world where you're like more likely I'm working on this project called Highlander. We have Ghost of Tsushima on the plates, based on the video game, the samurai film. It's one of the best looking games out there.

2:03:09 Yeah. Again, won every award out there for cinematography. Fantastic storyline. Jesus. I didn't even know it existed. So between these guys and what they got going on with Rainbow Six and Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, hopefully we'll see you again. They're like, No, he came back for you guys.