Joe Rogan Experience #1997 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. How can you be nervous? Thank you. You too. How sick is that? is really good and i just love that it's well first it says Cam Haines and Joe Rogan, elk blood. How sick's that? They're good. I know. Infinity. Yeah. I forget which one. You know, you work out. But these are fucking awesome, too, man. I love his podcast. You know what I mean? And just a good guy guy he's a legit he's just a elk hunter you know i

3:30 18. Total sugars. Yeah, this says 18. Really? No, no, no, no. is we're constantly looking at short distances. but I used to, I'm not worried about that, In Alberta, a woman was killed by a black bear last year. Scooby the Jeweler made that for me, and he hand-delivered it. Right? Unless you're a Machine Gun Kelly for yourself, it's a little questionable. Right?

6:18 I know. Yeah. It's very, very good. That is so good, and that's bear. It was delicious. Yeah. And the guy is a fucking unsung hero in the world of like taking wild game and making it just the most extraordinary It was so good. it's just not hooked up through the ceiling yet. Right. I remember. So I'm like, oh, we could But, of course, we don't have a Traeger.

9:48 Right, and he goes all that shiz out the window fuck that had to come to Jesus moment just tastes amazing. when the settlers were making their way across america they would kill bear for meat and they experience when you're out there in the woods right and what anybody experiences and what you It should have been on that one. If that guy didn't rev the engine, who knows what that bear would have done to them.

12:55 That is a very, very smart move. Yeah. Killing the calves. that they killed approximately 238 moose and caribou calves But when you get into certain animals, Yeah, they're cool. And you see circus bears. doing the alarm call, getting all puffed up. And I'm like, they live with each other every single are they picking up vibration from the walking and so

16:37 They knew that the bear I killed was coming long before they could see him. Mmm That's what's... Yeah, that happens. No. They're laying down in front of everybody. Like completely domesticated. So you think there's too many of them. Right. But an occasional mountain lion is nothing like a pack of wolves. You've seen where they communicate where one wolf will tire out the next

19:41 i'm using every piece of this animal yeah no, no, they're not like that. They don't have any They just went on a rampage. They weren't hungry. I mean, that's Jesus, they just killed them. Yeah. They weren't even eating them. Right. They just went on a rampage. Yeah. It's horrible. That's what I want to know. that muskox video is those were calves they don't they can't run and two adults's 17 calves. So that's kind of the point with that muskox video is those were calves.

21:45 they'll kill it. The switch is on. amount of time you got to get them now somebody else said that too that they didn't know animals And she would bring back a bird like she did some awesome thing. You know. Oh, dude. And also turtles. Where's the real Marshall? Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah. road i didn't and i hit it with the just ran over it and the sound. Oh, and I was just like, it was haunting.

25:02 I think they evolved because they evolved That's my theory. You can get diseases I had a few of them. That looks like Yoda. Oh, my God. is there because i think there's a few different species i think there's isn't there one called an Wouldn't you think? They could make a movie with that thing. Dude, there's something about reptile eyes that scare the shit out of you.

27:34 Oh, dude. And there's two fucking coral snakes making their way through the garage. Well, and it's pretty clear that, I mean, they're pissed, their tail's going off, they look fucking mean, big fangs. They don't want to die. They're fucking beautiful. Yeah, kind of hard to tell because there's a reflection in it, but what a fucking beautiful snake no god

29:19 Did I tell you what my agent said to me? Okay. to hunt a tiger. Okay. Oh, you can't get that close. That's what you should be doing. The canyon. Oh, man. to the fucking hospital he got bit, Just trying to catch lizards fucking up. trail is like another mile in this direction and then come back and that rattlesnake had to know Oh, I see. He always comes and checks on you too. Oh, back and forth. He's like, everything good, Dad? Yeah. He's the best because you don't have to worry about him. He stays right with you? Oh yeah. He always comes and checks on you too. He'll get ahead of you

32:20 most lovely looking creature you could imagine. Her hair was like that. Oh, of people on since Theo, I feel like this podcast, your platform is made for people like Jelly Roll because it's like. But hasn't until lately. but I don't think of it like that. voice of an angel. Oh, I mean, I'm addicted to his... And he's got the voice of an angel oh i i mean i'm addicted

34:50 Listen to this. I only talk to God you just go like god damn yeah there's just no no denying that talent that the story God, I'll never take it for granted again. I've this yeah you know i know that's why those that song is so Have you seen this video? Yeah, look at this. They say my lifestyle is bad for my health I'm so damaged beyond repair. There's something about when you're trusting them with your thoughts.

40:34 through it there's something about the way that interacts with your mind it's like this weird mean i think he had you know it was a shitty diaper moment he didn't know what to do he didn't Watch him dance. That's kind of crazy You see Obama. What do you got? Oh, he's talking. He's grooving. It might be Omarosa. Yeah. Yeah, she had goals. Bam. I like that look.

44:13 You know that's kind of what goes so when you hear a song even though you know it's not about you, you know, like This is a song, when you're a kid and you listen to this, you're like, holy shit. Yeah, but I'm three months older than you Trust me He got to number one. He was just a wizard. Right. He was just a wizard. Let's see the lyrics again. Now, me But all the world will love you just as long, as long as you are.

47:30 Don't do this. Like, always, like, They told stories. Johnny died one night. Died in his bed for some stupid reason. All the geniuses die early. I know. Could you ever see a time when Madonna was so hot like she was to where Roseanne Barr would be hotter than her right now? Isn't she? She looks good. leads to anorexia the same thing leads to bodybuilders to get just right massive dysmorphia

50:35 I'm like, what's going on? It just seems things can seem a little off when you start like making your lips bigger than everything else. know an Italian nose and big thick lips it looks like it belongs in your face yeah but if you have I believe Kat Zingano's talked about this you know because she them out i don't think they make them out That's the worst one.

53:52 because that's not that hard for an athlete like that with all that muscle you could dry that out Oh. Well, he's right there. And he's like, yeah, I look bad. Yeah. So maybe that had something to do with it. That's a... Or Yoel Romero. but everybody looks like that if they check in on you. But what oh he fought that That was. That's my point. Well, 65?

58:06 People should fight at their actual weight. Performance, I'm saying. I think when a fighter literally can't use his arm like that and you're fighting a guy who's as dangerous as Bilal And it's a hard pill to swallow. And hopefully he gets surgery or whatever, rehabs it or gets stem cells and fixes it. Probably. Listen, Leon's so dangerous. that has to affect the confidence of

1:00:46 And it changed the way Kamaru fought in the second fight. Like, you can never, I mean, that was the fifth round that he landed that. Yeah. He'll wade in. He's letting you know right away from the beginning of the fight, I'm coming after you. It would have been interesting if Jorge Masvidal, That had the storyline. He's been doing it forever. so hard except guys like yoel you know you have these guys that are just freaks you don't understand

1:04:31 yeah this is last fight oh that's oh we fought melvin manhoef oh interesting wow melvin is he's Oh, he'd be miserable. They see him stand up all the time. He's so good, dude. He's just. Yeah. and he gets him in the neck A monster? He was one of the best kickboxers overseas in Japan. So it looks terrible for him, right? It does, yeah. Because you're thinking, you know, my. I mean, he's just getting lit up. Yeah. So it looks terrible for him, right? It does.

1:07:20 Look at that. Oh, look at his eyes. Right hand. That's one of the greatest come-from-behind knockouts of all time. You know, So impressive. Yeah, that front leg was like real light. Yeah, but he came back like, oh, my God, his kicks. Like, what changed in this guy yeah this is just him practicing i've Yeah, there's not a lot of good options. And obviously, coming into this fight

1:10:28 that's like world championship caliber fighting. They both suck. Yeah. the second one, He knew from the first time. There's none of this stuff. And if your daughter hits you there, it sucks. Dude, I wouldn't be walking. Yes, yes, yes. But it's also very, very effective. Because even in that training, he let himself get hit with that right. Like have you ever had anybody hold pads for you and hit pads?

1:13:58 you see the opposite too. When they go with a punch and it looks like it's going to be hard, It's a great fight. Drekus is saying something about I'm the real African. fight is that Whitaker came really close to beating Izzy in that last fight yeah I mean it was a very had two no no the second one the second one yeah the first one he knocked him out and then the

1:16:25 Unpopular opinion. Wouldn't it be smarter? Unpopular opinion. What is he saying? Otherwise, I would have stayed in school and finished my studies, gone to work at a bank, I like that attitude. Okay. I still like Whitaker better. Because at 170, it was just too much. No, he's just pretty measured. Between who? Or no, no, they're two now. And Whitaker's a very good wrestler.

1:19:27 he thinks he's got a good shot at beating Pajero. Wouldn't you imagine? Drekos Duplassi at UFC 290, open the trilogy bout? I had a sign. Yeah. somebody and izzy's fired up i want to be there for that yeah i want to see that i love it all But you can do that shit when you're old. quite in his prime maybe a little older but he's got so much talent so much ability you can party

1:22:15 The problem is, it's like... I want him to come. That would be an awesome show. You know what? And then the- wearing your shoes you did on two different occasions i killed elk wearing those under Solomon's are great. So, I'm like'm like well just try a that fucking blood in this motherfucker's shoes? Too much work. winter version that's black oh what about orange and camo we could do that we need to get that we

1:26:13 but it still gives you grip. No, no. Super solid. soul is i, my body. Right. So if your foot gets a little tight because it's swelling, you can just go click, click. I've never had one break either. Yeah, this is a good wake-up call for me though very very good wake-up call i was getting a little too lackadaisical muscle in my back is just a little annoyed with yeah but that's where that fucking hyper ice hammer

1:29:19 I use Santa Cruz Medicinals. And I started taking their gummies every day. But for me, it works great. He goes, now I have full range of function in my hands, which is amazing. move it was really bad and he drank a lot dude it was fucking funny though he was so funny that When I went, I did that kind of a keto thing. I know it's crazy to think, but I think that's true.

1:32:05 than that, it's been mostly just meat and eggs. It's mostly been all of I've been eating. And I've physics or something like that meet you a cuckoo type dude you know like the And he's like, his memory is like, oh, my friend, Alex Harmosy. Yeah. But there's some people that have done some insane things by bypassing the normal system. highest-selling Producer of all time might be he's up there Steven Spielberg the Titanic

1:35:25 he like watches, or does he do documentaries? he would sit in this little apartment and watch this and then try to when he's doing jim shocky Maybe that's a ticket. can't carve their own path. They can't figure out a way to make it like how to, like, you got to find like, that's, you got to find places that like, there's a, there's a light at the end of

1:37:48 you're going to see Brian Simpson, that are coming through. Like, in small towns, there's always, I'll just see if this analogy makes sense. that really doesn't exist other than you know how good they are, You know how good they are. they're following Chris DiStefano they're following Theo Vaughn they're Yeah, it's at my club. naked with slippers and a bathrobe and stand in front of a fucking arena and

1:41:33 You just bought a ticket just like anybody else? I've told it of him before. God. Classic. One of the things he did give a fuck about was comedy. dangerfield young comedian special and then you saw that robert schimmel was going to be in your I need to do like a Rodney Dangerfield kind of special. Bob and weave Everybody's working really hard We'll do it tonight.

1:45:10 that you would have to have like what jesse's doing has some sort of an academy jesse yeah Where there was like real courses. Yeah and all the aspects of hunting because of you I'm not saying I don't care about these people. what we were talking about people talking shit and this happens in all forms of everything man with everything it's like that you know i said i i don't even deserve to be on this platform but like for whatever reason i am so like one of my goals since i quit my job has been like i'm gonna try

1:48:25 i've done with this and i'm like now that i'm this is my job i'm like well this industry's How many times do I have to tell him? I'm so amped up on veteran-owned caffeine. for you and it is it's legit 25 milligrams of cbd yeah i like it man i'm a big fan of cbd all around You know what's good with it? Well, thank you for Criticism like unless someone realizes you're running a Ponzi scheme or something. Yeah. Yeah, a

1:51:49 You're all about discipline. You're turning it into selfies. You're turning it into selfies. And what is the net positive effect of them posting about all this stuff? because I'm going to have a distorted version of this thing because it's the best version of this thing, that means I shouldn't show you my cars either. But I used to be poor, and I can do it.

1:54:08 Here's what I've noticed is like, you know what I'm saying, though? podcast and every person you've had is like, what, what is common about those guests is they have a The criticism that people have when it comes to social media hunting and the validity of it is that you're turning it into the same thing as posing in front of famous places for likes.

1:55:45 adjustment is probably better than the adjustment of somehow or another people that don't know what I'm not saying they're wrong. Yeah, it's nuts. because it's agriculture if you're talking month if you're talking Montana, most of private is down low because it's agriculture. So where's the land trust purchasing so they can lease it out for hunters?

1:58:27 So that seems, that's a weird one. With so much public land. That was – I went and talked to him back in Washington about that. Federal has more money. that they don't do any of it. I mean, what did he say? They just put bleach on it. You gotta clean the floor. You gotta clean your it's not filled with dry dead. for some people. You got to clean your forests.

2:02:26 When I was looking for Bigfoot with Duncan Trussell, we were looking for Bigfoot for a television show. So we were up there, and we encountered a lot of elk. Right. Oh, my God. There's so much fuel for all those plants. New York City is filled with smoke. Fucking A, man. properly. Oh, you mean like air gets in? let them know that I want to punch them. I don't want to actually

2:04:38 To the people? But I'm interested in what I'm interested in. People should shut the fuck up. to see him i heard you and theo talking about it so i'm not trying to go over that again yeah but His dad was the system that's in power, Everybody goes. And if that guy's going to win, They don't want that to happen. talk shit discredit him yeah and do everything they can until they get to that point the tipping

2:08:29 Someone's got to like Have a little bear. It would be a shame to not eat them. But're right tulsi robert f kennedy come on that'd Where's she going to get $500 million? Because that way the people that have the money get to stay in power. The last election, yeah. I saw people call people wild shit, people that I knew. No one. Yeah. Over and over and over. And then everybody, then you'll never get it. You'll never get sick. You'll never die. And then they all get it. And it's like this whole timeline where we see that lying and selling this fear the whole time and still never admitting it.

2:11:26 Yeah. You see that? to do things they couldn't do before But if you make them take it, then you can make them do things. And maybe it's clear that they're compromised by money. they didn't want to speak out about any of it. Yeah, but not just those guys. to help people move around as safely as possible during the pandemic. Here's the problem. I mean, maybe it saved lives in the beginning, but we read this study from the Cleveland

2:15:27 So he said, based on the success of whatever that was. It's just gaslighting. Everybody was worried about that. are furious they got lied to. and I don't know Right. over these numbers and saying, do you have to be concerned if you've had a vaccine injury? Do you Yeah. Yeah. and leaving Fox news when you're the number one guy. Yeah. like leaving, you know, a sitcom or something.

2:18:56 Unless the number one guy's got a body in his basement. yeah and then um it's like a month though they did a thing with uh twitter right yeah just recently So how do people like you and Tucker beat the system in that regard and become There's this condescending attitude. She's the fucking goat. They had a narrative. There's all these studies that are coming out that are showing that overweight people are so much more susceptible.

2:21:56 an obama or uh like someone who's a like a person that people trust and said ladies and gentlemen Well, some factions of our society want people controllable consumers, but we are society a lot of these pharmaceutical drugs that's how they sneak them in because they make a whole bunch of studies. That's crazy. Well, not just that. and then we did a third party study.

2:24:37 It's what we did it because we wanted to know like in the beginning like a lot of people were saying that like alpha brain was type of commitment to medicine. See what,, the thing is the FDA with supplements, it's just kind of squirrely. And so when I see Pure Encapsulations, and 25% active ingredients. show for the athletes, they have a list of label after label after label. So it's unregulated.

2:27:19 Vioxx. And there's a paper trail. You can see how they coordinated this and how they knew. Like wolves are in the business of being wolves. Yeah. Right. Pandemic creates new billionaires every 30 hours. In the world? It's nerve-wracking, man, because the people that have that kind of money and that kind Have you seen him say that? Comply. But it's okay. It says the video discussing ingestible pills with sensors

2:30:00 pills, a pill with a tiny chip to send a wireless you with the headline. Rather, he was describing Abilify, my site, a drug with a digital ingestion traction system. So they can say, well, it's for this schizophrenia or manic. you take the tablet and dissolves in your stomach it sends a signal that you in the tablet. And once you take the tablet and it dissolves in your stomach, it sends a signal that you took the

2:32:00 Let's see him say it. you took the tablet. To know that they did or didn't take their medicine like they're supposed to. And once it's been applied before, they can apply it to other things. Yeah. We were reading this thing about Al Pacino. after claims he demanded a paternity test because she hoodwinked him. By who? Yeah, but that's a headline. So they're allowed to do that. Just like they were allowed in that last headline

2:35:07 Yeah, it is. When Brody was off his medication. Maybe. And one of the best ways to implement this sort of a system would be some sort of a pandemic, i want to hear from that person yeah Yeah, I want him to sort all this to put a Twitter video up? They're saying Fox, Depends on your contract. an edited 10 minute thing that looks like a show and if he has a non-compete that says you can't

2:38:30 Yeah. move on their part but i think it was a business move if i had to guess i had to guess someone that was one of their sponsors or someone that owns a piece was very upset with his positions I trust him more than I trust Don Lemon. i don't know i'm just like so frustrated so I know I know you hate the politics but like I'm concerned about society.

2:40:28 It used to be like who's the most popular Democrat and that popular Democrat they would run against a Republican It seems insane that we tolerate that, that they just want to hold on to the position like, nope, we're not going to have any sort of primary debates. Yeah. Intelligently. And if they're in cahoots where the media is only putting out a negative

2:42:05 oh, And I'm like, uh, ideological, like tribes that people lump themselves in. that white streak in her hair while she was there just from the stress of I'll just tell you I feel like when I used to go see my grandma I used to want to try to get out Because that's a very real thing. So that's the problem with being a president. were excited about that choice because maybe some people in the beginning thought it would be like

2:46:14 Yeah. I mean, change human civilization forever. The Wrath of the Khan where they're going to Jin China and along the way they have to abandon their things like that. The idea that they won't do it now, that's the same ridiculous idea as no one who will fight to the death for what they believe in. But one thing you never hear discussed is what, if any, are the correlations between mass shooting and psych medications.

2:49:28 They're looking at it as, you know, not causation, but maybe correlation because they're crazy in the first place, which is why they're taking medication. so they'll stand, industrial complex's influence A lot of them are buffoons. After two brain surgeries. Yeah, I don't want that fact checked. I'm going to go with that. when you're young about fear.

2:51:59 I really believe that. He's bald, comic. So, but to your point. I think it's true. Yeah. Yeah, no, but when, so maybe there is something to it. The predator eating the pet. I think so. No. But other than that, it's like you would imagine like a calm or peaceful type person They're all grass fed, grass finished. can see it's much much higher in like it doesn't have bear elk it's good i'm sure it does i'm sure

2:55:47 is what we call it. Super fuel. The difference between there? Boy, that's blurry. I was trying, I can't see the rest of it. Moose is 37. Well, they say it's the best fat. I mean, you cannot beat that fuel. They're trying to survive. talk about, they talk about just crazy animals everywhere. Imagine none of that. Yeah. Why people aren't eating it. Did you, it's funny you mentioned the arrowhead.

2:59:21 Yeah, well, it was halfway in the ground. It looks real. Look at that one. That's why you see like these streets out here named like Quanta Parker Lane. So I was running and picked it up. There's some people that say you're supposed to leave them there to those people. though i wouldn't be comfortable with the the size of the cut that little arrowheads make oh yeah

3:00:51 Look how little that arrowhead is. Ah, a bird point. see i thought i saw a point sticking out and i went back sure as shit i found one when i was It was really cool. way like about a half a mile to this uh isolated patch of trees and i crawled in for like an hour I move it and I put it in. I've put crawling like that, I've put it on my back. talking about taking your shoes off there's some there's certain people out

3:03:31 I get it. and he's one of them. Yeah. to archery yeah very measured nothing was luck with him it was just like very calculated but this guy bart he goes he's incredible And if Roy's saying somebody's incredible. That's crazy. A hundred pound recurve jesus christ yeah silver tip paul schaefer that's crazy 100 pound recurve yeah yep so that's the last wild that's bart schuyler right there so this guy was just a legend

3:06:12 your own arrowheads make your own bow go hunt moose and get eaten by a grizzly bear dude is Well, I think that song appeals to Nietzsche. And there's a great value in those people. people it's just foolish and it's it's really that quote it's the tragic result of unmet needs We're all flawed. But I realized that it's a weakness. it will actually provide you with positive energy as opposed to just this bitterness

3:09:44 To improve or greatness you attract those type of people also. I know I was like that. You get angry when you see that person. I see you, this comedy mothership, blowing up everybody just like this excitement. I tried to talk you into quitting that fucking job. job for decades and then all of a sudden you're just going to get rid of it. And you have responsibilities and a family and there's a lot involved,

3:12:06 If people, I'm going to give away a truck in 10,000 bucks. That guy probably carried that rock like I carry a hat. Yeah. I, I have more than I deserve. I'm giving back just like you, you've set this example for You can't change someone's life if they're mediocre. that was running 13 miles a day and then lifting at night they need to know that and I appreciate you