Joe Rogan Experience #2002 — Amanda Feilding Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Because I lived in this very, very isolated spot. Ah, sorry, sorry, sorry. Ah, sorry about that. I was very, very close to my father, who came back from the war, a diabetic. I adored him, and he adored me. And he was a very out of the, he wasn't in normal society at all. all his work when he was at university, called Bertie, became a Buddhist monk, a rather famous

4:04 Really? Yeah. So that was the aim of the game. I was very close to Jesus in those days. When I was 16, I won the sounds prize. which is what I did. and they wouldn't, they had even song And then the host. or those sort of things. I'm intending to. I love those Latin 16th century, No, I haven't. No. Is that a good one? So he worked with that for 14 years. They deciphered the Dead Sea Scrolls.

9:22 Yeah. Yeah. And they were smokers the world's leading and wrote a book called So, because I was very shy and he was very shy Yeah. And he was a Catholic convict actually and he actually think is necessary And so it's like fertile ground. This is a theory I was introduced to in 1966, Because in the brain there are two fluid volumes, I mean, some animals, if you tie them up right,

15:04 which is to direct the blood where it most needs to go. because of our creation of language, to kind of direct the blood where it's most needed. He put the key in the lock and left him. Yeah. from nature in a sense. And that in a way is why psychedelics can be a very useful medicine because they increase the connectivity with the senses, with the outside perceptual senses. So I actually think that we're

19:52 and when I say psychedelics I don't actually mean necessarily psychedelics, because as And I think at the center of the spiritual experience I mean, in the creation of words, which we all have one's internal as dangers kind of thing. Yes. It's 35, 40, something around there. The movement of the animals, the feeling. Yeah. if it's just a kind of magical,

24:26 Are you aware of Brian Murrow-Rescue's work? Yeah, thank you. Do you know that one? And do you know, it's obvious from art. Yes. None of them, opened up a field of study about this. Now. psilocybin, mescaline, everything. I mean, it is horrific what happened. I think what MAPS has done, which is genius, is their work with MDMA and soldiers, So because of that, I believe they've opened up a door to understanding.

29:17 to prove that these compounds can actually heal humanity, in those days. I had to be that what they do is increase the volume of blood in the brain capillaries. I'm so depressed. science which has been i.e. psychedelic-assisted therapy, goes much, much farther than Really? yeah and he put it under his tongue and a few minutes later he's lying back on

34:38 Interesting. But now what? That is magic. No, that is wonderful. Of a wonderful old lady of 97 where she didn't recognize him, And then he contacted me and said, what should he do? You know, and I've noticed the same things. I've got a friend who's and this is where I got this interest right back in 1966, had this hypothesis Yeah, and you go back to normal.

39:52 they all work on the same direction. a lot of the, I'd love to know more about that. from the eating of it, and I do it with edible marijuana. It brings back – I think they're very – I mean we are only beginning to scrape the top of the knowledge of how these compounds work and how we can use them for humanity. to help and cannabis which could be helped.

43:36 different characteristics which are incredibly valuable, but it's a complete madness that the one which is really completely non-toxic you can Yes. Clarity. Yeah. Just from being in the moment. Yes. And, I mean, it was 20, I think it was, doses. And also to therapy applications because you do it and you're essentially completely sober. Trevor Burrus No.

46:44 Yes. Yeah. And, I mean, I've been at it. About the benefits of it. And on those cow patties, psilocybin mushrooms would grow. the king reindeer drinks the pee of the drug the only feature at all, but I think it's one of the major, you know, the development He wasn't, you know, he expressed it poetically. So, I mean, he talked a lot of rubbish. But at the same time, he's a very good poet and he had a lot of very, you know, deep thinking.

50:58 Yes, yes, yes. Probably that's why Socrates had to commit suicide, because he had it with his boyfriend So how does one keep the supply of energy as topped up, basically, But there's very little interest in it. brought about by trepanation theory of it which induced me to do it. And in a way, I prefer not talking too much about it, And then the holes close, but the sutras, the bones, are quite flexible.

56:14 Because the bone grows. It's very much associated with religion, mysticism. which is interested. Not very present, Pre-history. I'm afraid know why. From what time period? Pre-history. the third eye, it was the priest caste which took the compounds to get high, whatever they were, mushrooms Because, like in Mexico well I've seen And why anyone wants to do six holes, I have no idea.

1:00:17 21 was average, the skull closes. So we could very easily, actually. So until in the First World War, they did the first lobotomy, and that stopped trepanation and I had a campaign. But what I want to say is that, for instance, Jamie, my husband, got to pound. and found a wonderful surgeon there who did it, So constantly you're getting that extra blood to the brain through your exercise.

1:04:04 enormous number, 100 miles or something. And so, funny enough, I think the new, how I look on it, our function One is self-realizations, experience, beauty, love of beauty, because it's wonderful not to need an outside thing You can dial it in. So he always kept his sugar level low. So when Bart, this Dutch scientist, we lived on LSD. Freud, Reich.

1:09:33 I was pretty addicted. Do you remember what happened to you? young child smoking, the smell is horrible. so I said well what about the first lot We worked. if we concentrate know, there are alternatives which can be used to the health of the person. And I think I realized I had to stop being Amanda Fielding. you don't have to have any money and Sasha Shulgin but the more important ones were the established ones 15 of them, including Albert Hoffman and Sascha Schorgen.

1:14:13 So I had a very impressive advisory board. The United Nations went there regularly trying to change things. I remember, I mean, no one wants to drill a hole in their head on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. I can tell they become I mean they don mean, they don't eliminate them to have a hole in his head, he would have I'll sculpt my own skull and see what happens.

1:18:03 And so I learned how to do it very cautiously. of doing such a silly thing. He was an observer of this thing. if I... Drill. Electric drill. But I used a ball with a flat bottom so it couldn't damage the membrane it's kind of like people go skiing, But then when I'd finished, I bandaged up. I never released it. And funnily enough... of the slides. including people like Warhol

1:22:26 who was my pigeon, who was never in a cage or always free. So when they flew me back from Concord, out because the Just too crazy? Calm down. Energy is the more difficult thing. tested thinking I'd caught it But the difference is so slight, I couldn't swear on it at all. Well, it was that big. which is what I worked on with this professor, Do you know what I mean?

1:27:40 But that's why I actually don't talk about it now because it sounds so crazy. Because often people in the mystical tradition were trepanned. I mean, and then they started saying, oh, I certainly won't trepan anyone. I used to have very anxious dreams, Yeah. I mean, I think they go together. Yes. And I think, therefore, we should, No, I don't think it replaces it.

1:32:46 Yeah. Yeah. Which is so ironic considering that they did so many LSD experiments. And the ironic thing is, when the witches were burnt, then the villagers got a plague. because it's phosphorescence from the moon. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty common sense. And that's why I rather like the phrase, Yeah. Do you know who goes? My mother. I've got a picture of it in my back.

1:40:03 use it to write. You know, so I think whatever you do, you've got more passion or energy. brain. If you just go and take that, And so that's the importance of taking the vitamin C I think probably it is a very good fuel. Yeah. I think there's a lot more we'll constantly be practice. So it's a skill. when you're taking psychedelics. No. I say that because when I go to art galleries, I never go to an art gallery sober.

1:45:11 And I find them interesting and I'm fascinated by their mindset and talking to them. psychedelic conference and I think because I wanted to say, well, actually, when I was pregnant, I didn't because I actually think it's good for my health. And I have conversations with them about ones that you should avoid and the dangers of things that may be contaminated with fentanyl.

1:47:23 And it's not good for young people to smoke that. I mean, not for grown-ups who know how to handle it and things. I think it should be encouraged, a nice balance of THC, CBD. And that especially in conjunction with all the cannabinoids with CBD and it's... And as these people go Susan D' Yeah, exactly. A thing which is complete. growth and change. comedy, yeah.

1:51:34 which is basically looking after their citizens like a good mother or father looks after their children, Don't. Yes. And I'm a user. And there's a time period between 1965 and 1970 where there's some of the most amazing cars ever. collector's automobiles and the most beautiful designs. Rather like in a tree, you can see by the rings it's amazing. Yeah. And it's so clear that that time period directly correlates with the sweeping

1:54:19 Artwork. What the hell happened to us? such a beautiful, and I think you can tell it in culture. I mean, like whatever in, Couldn't have been done by people who weren't high. And it will be the first research to use a Tesla 7. What I'm going to do in this other one And then we'll have a very deep psychological one. And then say, well, that's at the top level looking at

1:58:28 She said, the best experience I've had with God for a long time. And how hopefully we can map them. And Go is an incredibly complex game. But I've got that in place. You can play life on the go board. So it's a better visual, but it's slightly less good psychologically. And anyway, I was a slightly better player than my opponent. it's a pattern recognition

2:01:50 Yeah, very taxing. And I think sportsmen, I mean, like Joe, the father of my children, he loved cricket. Doc Ellis. I'm trying to recreate that study. The cannabis one started off rather well. Well, look at the normal one, though. That's funny. Exactly. Exactly. It would make sense that caffeine would be all over the place, too. as my passion for 56 years

2:05:09 When I showed it to the professor of geriatrics in Switzerland, And he'd heard about my research and And so I've also got I also want to do autism, also Parkinson's, you know, I want to be able to fast forward who are in coma or paralyzed or one of those conditions out of the picture for years, I mean, not probably functioning like this old lady. Wow.

2:08:11 can go and We'd have dogs and children, and it would be like home. So I want the permissions to be able to do this. But it needs, one, the regulatory passport to do it, Or one year. you know, all the different compounds in the body, One can do it on a protocol. and just let's care homes, services Oh, that's a shooting star. I think it's a, yeah. Mm.

2:13:33 and browns and I prefer I've not seen mauve and browns. were in a battleground. A poor boy had had much too much and was screaming and yelling But I actually thought, I don't really so choose compounds Right. Well, that's very lucky because I know people who've had horrible ones too. And he offered me some. I said, not LSD. And he offered me some a dying

2:16:57 Right. But I quite agree with you. I mean, if you're someone who's never had a really bad experience, you're much less likely to have it. Do you think it's the consciousness expressing itself in different ways through the visual But a lot of people love the entities. Oh, that's funny. Telepathy, I know, happens to my own satisfaction. Well, it just so happened that his mother died on the window ledge.

2:20:10 I insisted, let's put him out because we're going to have him forever. Wow. did what I had never done. I mean, how many dead birds do you get? But he flew off. And then I went up to the television they never introduce whatever people who ring in to people looking for fear of something. Are you or not? in the tsunami. They all go up Right. I mean, strange things which are unexplicable at the moment.

2:25:37 Right. I mean, that's why I had passion for Birdie. But it's usually a threat to life, a kind of adrenal threat, which obviously sends a message if you're there ready to receive it. One of the things about ayahuasca was when they were first recognizing it, they tried to call one of the compounds of it telepathine. We showed that it increased neurogenesis.

2:27:40 And I think we're at such an incredibly interesting sphere of investigation. And then force our politicians in a nice way. Yes. I mean, there's so many different pathways I passionately think psychedelics are a gift of the gods in inverted commas. It's a natural gift. to make top-level compounds, which I did. Getting a compound through phase three Right, but they don't have monopoly over it.

2:31:46 And the rich people are the ones who hopefully are those who take the risk of, as the governments One's needing a lot of money to allow... the Beckley's had about 5.5 million And I would like Yeah. It's a medicine, which is essential. Well, thank you very much for asking me. I've got a very good tiny team, but I want to do more research and make things happen.

2:34:53 Well, I've never seen it, but well done. Yes. Bye-bye.