Joe Rogan Experience #2003 — Killer Mike Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Man, it's always good to see you. By the way, I should tell you also, Run the Jewels playlist is the playlist we play at Yeah. people this Michael album is you had a concept when you created this. So that's what she was playing around. They're chubby. They're fresh. Amazing advice. If someone out there is a musician, if someone out there is an artist, if someone out there is an author

3:00 that part out. Like, my mom didn't buy me studio 14, But you know, I believe that with all kids, but especially little boys, you've got to let their imaginations just go fucking crazy. up man all of a sudden you can fuck people up this is like a whole new gift you got from the universe that's usually when your dad has to slam you on your so that's me with my arm around him

4:46 and shit like that. out of Spanish class, Don't go fucking around. job. that that's the value of a really good educator as opposed to someone who's just doing that job someone who really looks at a kid and goes I think I can principals and the school has kind of fallen, but they've got a great principal He went on to UCLA, won the NCAA championship.

6:49 And he was an interesting guy, like Vietnam vet and kind of hard-nosed sort of dude. I mean, I was 13. And this guy sat in front of the class, and he said, if you ever really want to hurt your brain, he goes, go outside at night and look up and realize there's no end to that. Yeah, I definitely feel you. season. But he was one of like as man to understand

9:16 Hip hop is, like I told people about Michael, right? who just lives totally amongst the people he looks like. They don't, unfortunately. friends, or community members. Yes, and have that spread out. that I need to know about? Yeah. Jimmy Saville. But there was a woman in parliament that had promised to bring the other people to justice. Not really.

12:29 We could destroy the whole tent. Joe and I were just having a conversation about how hogs actually eat human beings. Yeah. who went on a hog hunt a firearm on them They know how to fight. a piece of broken ice shelf and teach the young ones. And we don't know if they have it, you know, because we know, you know, we know we don't know what, you know, they can communicate in terms of sound waves we can't hear.

14:41 Yes. Lilly was out there. and half of the house was filled with water got so the dolphin Lord knows after I get pussy, And dolphins, they live in this world of sharks. Instead of saying, it's actually like some sort of bodily maintenance. We don't even know. They fight off sharks. They go right for the liver. body shaking. Listen, she probably had an intimate relationship with this.

17:50 John Lilly, at the end of his life, he had done so much drugs. fuck are you doing he was that gone i need to know if that's true this is an important one Yeah, that's even harder than Hunter S. Thompson. What does ketamine do to you in particular? Ayahuasca, yeah. But he was telling me about the Hiawaska You can get something out of it. like I wouldn't even

20:31 I drink whiskey just thinking you know Well, that's a good point, actually, because there's some evidence that, because he's like, you're fat. You don't need to eat anything. Me and L ate in Europe, and I'm just like, whoa. you're perfect for stand-up don't have comedian friends out there people because the minute you makes me get on stage. I do I haven't done, you know, like my friend T.I.

22:41 Yeah. away with in the kitchen. Oh, yes. on stage. Because they're having those As I've grown to know more The Internet changed it because before there was like a supply and demand thing. I love that quote. You can't someone is always going to be doing something different or better Because you've never done an album like this. Right. For the last decade, my whole life has been a blessing

26:02 It's also, it's an inefficient way of using fuel. say it to you absolutely you have to be yes it, man, it's nothing like steel sharpening steel. Oh, man. Yes. can. Kobe knew like when someone comes along every now and then in any sport someone comes And you had, everyone was sad That's what people were. In his young 20s when he was just unstoppable.

29:02 I think Ali was in his corner. I don't know if it's because of the lisp or what. Fuck him up. It's all. Larry asked for this fight. he would be another huge applauded heavyweight publicly. like the bobbing and weaving and the way he would close the distance it was very unusual and you That hook from up under is something that might just be. maybe 90 or something like that.

31:52 Guys didn't really know how to recover it drops his hands it starts look at that that right hand they just planted on him Oh, okay. Popping it out there. Mike was special. He's built like a bulldog, too. Yes, a little bit. Yeah, boom. Oh, that left hook. Yeah, Larry's like, fuck that. Because big hitters, if you watch him, a lot of them were motherfuckers,

34:40 That's what was crazy. And his power is weird because if you look at the two of them, oh, look at that knockdown. But it's also 38 years old. him fight Roy the first time, decisioned him pretty easily. So what do you think ultimately is it for fighters? They'll leave holes. showed up for practice and was just fucking around playing playing with the team his brother's much

37:34 he studied them, that Mike's game Wow. That's his fucking brother. Well, the youngest guys are usually the toughest in the family of boys. And then they're like, fuck you. Oh. and it's good to release stress too. And if they don't have control of that, got acclimated to the, we're just gonna fuss about The Olympic skeet shooting thing is right around the corner from a place that I own some buildings and stuff.

39:49 It's, I think, firearm safety is like the most important thing. out. So they put together a hiking club, like you need to learn how to stop in case of an accident which i thought was just brilliant Walk around. Like, food isn't guaranteed? The old man has a beautiful garden and shit. He's gutting it right here. He was from Mexico and he would cut he was actually the gardener when I bought the house

42:24 goat they killed a goat. And for him, he was so confused. it's okay to buy meat, They should have closed And there was a lawyer who I have respect for. And, you know, people are kind of, I'll say, y'all ain't ready to revolt. grocery stores or anything. they get out, run a job. In whatever way, because they're really ready. especially in the summer.

45:14 You should learn You guys go to Instagram. If you're slaughtering your own cattle, if you make deals with the neighbors, I give you a quarter, you give me some corn, we work out together. So if I say shit you don't agree with, that's fine. How close is that to Atlanta? And so they brought him on, and he talks very slow and deliberate. Oh, wow. Which Alabama town is that?

47:38 Dothan, Alabama in 1997. Yeah, that's funny you got to say little person now. all supermarkets and shit oh that's got a giant regenerative farm and what they do is like the That's kind of, I'm paraphrasing, but I think that's what he's saying. My friends' eggs aren't white they weren't white that's malnourished yeah like man If you're on a farm, you get to see those motherfuckers go.

50:15 Those guys get fucking. Oh, my God. That's fucking crazy. You never seen this? chicken sees that mouse this is the same video so the cat's still playing with the cat's just Yeah. It's mean as fuck. The way they went after that mouse. This is crazy. Your food. Keep it going. It's a wrap. But it's a lot of round shit that you would call fat that'll fucking kiss it.

53:26 Being digested. I'm going to give people this. And they're not like, you should probably just call each other possums. When he told us that, me and my brother G. Davis, man, Raccoons ain't that silly. Not interested in having a raccoon run up on me. Jesus Christ, he jumps down on this dog. I mean, he's prepared to stay balanced. It's like a badger's gay cousin that can fight like fuck.

56:02 My mom actually went to there's a gay club dozens and dozens, No, no, that's a man. At this point in time, you've got to realize it's something you're born with. Who didn't? my Uncle Carlton were some of the biggest influences and she made us fix it we had to dry but I love my uncle Benny Perrette and Emile Griffith. You got that? literally the punches the punch head going back oh oh i mean that's it and And he died. Wow. So he slumps and he's gone.

59:26 Yeah, but yeah, I've seen so bad off. Yeah, the referee is to come people holding him up though Oh, wow. The referee's job is very hard. That's what it was, the ref that killed his self? Jamie will pull up some articles that disagree with your opinion, too. Who wrote that? Holes in the fact-checkers. looks for imperfections, what we make to mimic us,

1:02:03 You know what I mean? That's why Michael's going to march into the fucking Grammys and walk off with it. Shouts out Drizzy. And if that's not the case, if it's just music, Yeah, it is. That's real. And he'll just throw on jams from like the 70s and 80s and shit, minute song comes on and then before you know it Okay. I like Zeppelin One for getting me through.

1:04:45 quit playing guitar. Oh, it's amazing. They mixed the J with it. Yes. Shouts out to Ice-T, who Problems, 99 Problems mixed with this? No, I got to hear it. Oh, it's amazing. Feel that? You need that juice, that inspiration. your soul, woman. I had Like, I've had Democrats I like and I push for them, especially locally. I've tried my best, but I'm not hating, but it's just ain't my thing.

1:06:47 I hope she sees the picture. Like, yeah, and that it's just, it's like a bunch of associate you with whatever the worst aspects of your yeah That you have to rule, quote unquote, in a more fair and equitable way. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my grandmother about having to buy a fishing license because the game warden has to make sure things are legit and

1:09:52 You know what I'm saying? when human beings There's a lot of never-Trumper Republicans. when Trump said, of course these loopholes exist. we're cheating. Because we're all complacent in some capacity. Kennedy, I'm interested just to hear, you know, to take back to the party that wins and say, We were laughing and joking backstage at the Amazon worker strike that we were both supporting.

1:12:33 You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do my best to protect my fucking money. So once Michael fucked around to figure out how to sing and dance and make some money, they have to give their share. It was like a record of all the old arrests from like the 1970s, I think it was. Yeah, we're not trying to fix the problems for real. And we're making profits

1:14:21 say, in a small South Georgia town, The goal should be to have the least amount of prisons in the world. And he was explaining the system that you get put in a place that's in a small town And then they're, you know, it's like, you can't get away. That's it. Everybody works there. Yeah. And then their father is the one who runs the whole cell block. And then they're,

1:15:13 They could, good things come out of my relationship with him. I tell people, you know, regardless of how he felt She had me come speak to one of her first graduating classes and shit i congratulate him and her program worked so well that not only We become friends. in and out. especially those who claim to be Christian, like I've kind of come back to the philosophies of

1:18:04 And I'm like, if I can just keep that mentality, not forget the prisoner, you know, if I can do that, then I'll be a step toward being a better human being. And we're not putting them out better. They're printing. They have a print shop where they're printing stuff. Why aren't we doing that? And you've got to use all the tools that are available to rehabilitate.

1:19:42 First of all, they'd be way less likely to fuck each other up if they're doing MDMA. He's a black doctor. Would you put him over the program to do that in terms of prisons? And he was a straight edgeedge scientist until he um started studying them yeah and then when he started studying them and he realized that It's a beautiful feeling. Very calm. shorter. It's because you're hitting.

1:22:03 I would say is quicker. And Something for Junkies really was just saying have empathy, sympathy, I don't know if it was meth in particular, and they would just be doing amphetamines. But he gambled. night because we'd be up for 20 fucking hours. And my sisters had told my wife, Mike loved him so much, he just didn't want to see. I was like, Like he,

1:24:42 kind of not keeping up And he got out the car. So his mother knew what was coming. And D's former manager, who's the homie, I was like, my cousin got him. So, cousin was man. We went down the street and just Pool is much more social than golf. Yeah. This is so much money. He was more of a gambler your whole life they had to quit. they were like neck and neck it was like a race to 11 it's like nine nine like what the fuck

1:28:11 Dr. Bonzo Reddick to Big Boy to medical school i got good grades i ended up being a doctor he said you guys are living off you know but I ain't got it in me that's what I'm saying Because you just mortgaged your house. Yeah. I opened my first barbershop just because I wanted to have a social center in the south side of Atlanta. And we've turned into a bigger brand.

1:30:32 whether it was helping people get more knowledge, and men in particular, about mental health awareness and stuff, Just be guys, you know what I mean? They exist in pool halls, yeah. but then you're just creating alcoholics. Okay, I'm in. Yeah. And then people are paying you rent. young enough. You know, but if you just make some investments, those investments will pay for the bullshit.

1:32:49 Yeah, only making a few. Give me any muscle car, especially the fucking, I wanted to buy a fucking Demon to do the types of rap, to be free to say the things I wanted to say, the hawks is tony's early 60s doesn't come from money, working class, got out of New York and has built a $7 billion fortune. is good about this too. T.I. is very good about this.

1:34:45 I don't argue with my plumber out is what the fuck I'm paying. oh man, My grandma had a house. We kept the homes. I bought my daughter a house behind know you don't have to make poor choices because you want more money yeah And he grew up a few streets behind me. First of all, Buick is a proper man today in terms of Chevy. Yeah, and the Grand National and the T-Types from 83 forward, they were just some kick-ass affordable muscle cars.

1:37:20 I told him he was selling it to you. It handled like an 80s car. It went We're having it sent to a specialist who builds those, but I'm putting a Hellcat motor in it. There's going to be a lot of old white Southern men. It's crazy. These are like all my car guy friends. He brought his wife out to a solo show I had out of nowhere out there. I love Mike. I love Jared.

1:39:02 looking at cars. Sean, who runs Autotopia, the flares of a 69 Camaro. And I'm looking forward to putting it in. Look at that. Fuck off. I get it tomorrow. It is. It's again the same thing. or religious background and make friends whatever it is. Even Not even whether or not they're these creatures from another dimension. I agree. Holy shit. No, I think they've been here before.

1:42:43 Because it's so big. Maybe it's a long road. Maybe this sort of reset thing happens many, many times. I walk up to the room. Which one? Golden Tiger? That's it. If you just cut that out, it changes your life. Trying to cut sugar. Yeah, it's in sauces, a lot of sauces, a lot of steak sauces. I got a, what is it called? Bee's Cracklin. And the further east you go, the worse brisket gets.

1:45:50 Big Boy has a real one, so it's pretty fucking close, right? It's very good, too. But that's where all the meat that should be lit oh it's so good I don't eat that shit anymore but what I especially when it went in the winter when she don't want you to get calls and They don't like the texture. Apparently, onions, But the liver, she would fry her liver, which is why I like it fried.

1:48:22 shout out to Betty, man. She, right? But she lived a healthier lifestyle than I understood at the time because she never stopped her body from moving. then she'd come back to meats is what I'm paying people get him some deer meat Well, the best meat So if you're going usually get a half and then i'll do the other half at some point the later night the next day

1:50:33 ketosis it's more efficient at doing it that way but it's not the best for workouts i gotta say Oh, it's amazing. Like if you get it, you'd go, we're going to have watermelon tonight. Yeah, my man. Yeah, cantaloupes. Your mouth itches? Yeah, my grandmother would make... Actually, when muscadine season comes around, I'll get some and just ship some out to you.

1:52:51 Oh, wow. to eating a lot of carbohydrates especially yeah when you get if you're used to eating a lot of And then there's the fucking insulin spike. You just deal with it. off the rails. It's like not trying to eat cornbread That bear, the reason why that bear is so delicious is because it is what it eats. Ah. They're good. you're like, oh my, it's worth it.

1:55:37 There it is right there. It's not like everybody's eating them and they taste nasty. We would boil them. My parents Scientists in the Netherlands tinkered with Let's see. my grandmother would put a teaspoon, like the tip of a teaspoon of sulfur, Says sulfur is responsible for the bitter sprout taste. frost. like them a whole lot more than everyone else.

1:58:20 I get this Senor Lechuga sauce that has Reapers in it. yeah in the south but the hotter ones, I always wonder, like my tongue goes There used to be a chili place in L.A. called Chili My Soul. And he said that these Sherpas came in they're like just try it before you order it and it's so hot but I think Yeah. That's too hot. Like, they seem to get to the bathroom

2:01:04 Yeah, my asshole's used to Yes. And it hurts both ways. I'm relatively healthy. I'm just like, I had a friend of mine who had to get an operation. Scared the shit out of me a couple years ago because there was something stuck in her, Wait, looks healthy as shit now. the one thing that would motivate you the most You know, let me get in this little three-mile walk at 9 in the morning and I'll wait to eat until 1 o'clock.

2:03:13 What do you think happens? And I would like for her to know that her and my grandmother, you know, That's beautiful. I just wonder what that is when we think of ourselves. it's not going to work anymore. That's a real issue. No, millionaires aren't rich. I could be back to working at the auto zone. You're brilliant at it. Yeah, man. Joe, she had her hair pressed

2:06:22 you know, Yeah, absolutely. But her sister in her life that by the time taking care of a lot of people in the last days of their life. Well, that's just life, though, right? you know he's he's on shit he's in a a lumber company at eight you You know, Shay said to me, what you talking about, at some point, You know, this is 83, 84 he's saying that to us.

2:09:05 Which is why he would eat when he ate, say, a game of stuff. and there was no herbicides that were sprayed all over everything. No. Scary shit, man. He had to get his bone in his thigh replaced with like this titanium rod because he had bone cancer in his thigh. That's terrifying. I just got fucked by this. something I wrote as a note to think about that I'll pull up, but it was a similar thing. No, I'm no. I was cool. There was something I wrote as a note to think about that I'll pull up,

2:11:36 No, I'm straight, bro. Rose was still alive. To me, Ric always You put hard times on Dusty Rhodes, the leader of the four horsemen, Oh, man, you talk about the early 80s through the early 90s. The hair was amazing. Yeah. You got to love it. And Dust just gave this powerful speech. while I was down. Talk about it, Duff. What hard times are, Daddy? and they give him a watch

2:15:14 That's hard time. That's an amazing speech. And everybody can do it. When we start losing jobs, when car companies start saying, well, we'll go to this country. Roger and me. Michael Moore. And it was instantaneous. Yeah. It's a wild decision to make whatever more money, Yeah. They've learned how to make a cheaper car. And all of a sudden that's got me on.

2:18:03 It's, they got it figured out, but it didn't get figured It is. Really? of an assembly Buick, Olds, Pontiac, had been on the assembly line. the Cadillac GM, which owns, of course, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Buick, Olds, Pontiac, He couldn't bring it home for that. People like cool shit. you know, affordable cars I mean, that thing, GQ took me out to drive the Hellcat, the Mustang, and the Camaro.

2:21:14 It's a violent drive, though. Look at this. I drove a Hellcat. I did a special. Oh, look at that thing go. I drove a Hellcat in 2014. It's like a big two-door, like super comfortable. He's like, bro, my man just hit me in Augusta. which is like two hours away. Atlanta Mercedes with the asshole who I'll tell you negotiated by a chick. So he off to relatively quickly. It's the end of the

2:23:31 She has them call the general manager, and looks at the guy and says, you got balls. That is some sneaky shit. I wanted the car so bad. Yeah. and sell you some shit. because the dude's So I go in. When I got down to the estimate that they told me was radically I'm 14 grand or something. Let's figure it out. I'm like, hold on, why are you talking loud to me?

2:25:59 Name's actually Shea, S-H-A-N-A. So I told them, when I went back and talked to the guy who ran the auto department, Are you still here? Why is he raising his voice? Right. Yeah. That's the problem with. That would be instant. That would have been it. But people want to be right. Yeah. Well, people like to talk. you don't want to fight. Because that's how I fight.

2:28:25 if you hit me that's for real not going to fight you I'm not fucking boxing you. I am not into having who's got the biggest dick contest in our 40s. But if you get within my striking distance, yeah, I'm not going to let you hit me. Guy ran up on stage with me in South by Southwest, me and LP. Yeah. If you look at a lion, a lion before a lion, a lion sees a human coming, oh, let me get the fuck out of here.

2:30:45 Raccoons are pretty gnarly. That's a wild little. This is your Scotty Pippen, bro. Don't get old and mean like Scotty, man. Don't do that. Don't turn on Joe. What's a blizzard. This is your Scotty Pippen, bro. Wives and children can drive good kings mad, man. And it's been throughout history. It gets crazy, bro. Yeah, be careful what you ask for, bro.

2:32:24 Try to figure out what did you know? Like, come on, bro. When the church decided, yo, It's like if you look at the word cracker, cracker is not something that black people made up. they were like, no, we got to put an end to this shit. You know? So I would just say, man, So they're literally putting it into the way they structure the country. before we get to America and I guess the church,

2:35:44 It's all. And you,inand and Isabella and Portugal and well, fuck it, it's all. who's the bad guy, what These are the illest motherfuckers on earth. Genghis Khan wasn't particularly smart. I'm talking beyond military. Like, what did he Yeah, it doesn't, you know, I know some gang leaders that are comparable to war generals, right? Who profited most from

2:38:37 He goes, I don't give a fuck what your religion is. Yeah, it was like, one of us three has Genghis Khan blood in our body, apparently. Mike, you're the man. I hope you start a podcast.