Joe Rogan Experience #2012 — Gad Saad Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. That should be like the top line on my CV. boom all right please read it i will enjoy it a lot of you do the audiobook oh yeah i swear to Yeah, it has to be. It makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense. Like, you're going to say these things. Exactly. And then narratives get formed and you can't stray outside those narratives. You can't even

3:54 Have you ever gone to his? It's like something happens to those old creative types. Man, there's so much that you have to be happy about. a level that we've never seen before. then everyone gets to look at you and go, What's the numbers? who come from certain cultures where there's rampant antisemitism. And so if you let people much more free speech?

7:47 You know what? exact and they're all like you know they have numbers and letters in their accounts like just two things we already discussed, like this adherence to the ideology, no matter what, for you to step back? You know it's untrue. I've had him on at least, was he on twice? Yeah. He won't do it. facts or you don't have facts. Right. And if you're scared to debate the facts, I have to go,

11:39 It could, but you know what I would say to that? Even in your case, it is preposterous for someone to not believe that at least there's a process of evolution at this stage. There's an amazing BBC documentary about it. And especially with, you know, certain narratives. Scenarios? Yes. The scariest. scariest the fucking scariest i have to pause something happened with my video oh right now oh it's

13:38 it we'll pause we'll be right back all right technical difficulties I just want Number two was Burt Bacharach. After our chat aired, excited. It turns out it was his It never ended up happening. That's the beauty of life. The guy still works. Remember Every Which Way But Loose? I believe it was the 70s. I'm talking, you know, 65, 67, 68 when I'm, you know, 4 or 5 years old.

16:51 Yeah. I started the trailer. Those movies are great, though. Sally Field. I really don't think I have one. Like, even the apes in the beginning, you know, the scene where they're evolving. I was an MBA student, and I was taking an organizational behavior class where the professor assigned us that movie to watch it to demonstrate group dynamics. long time ago. So, let me tell you

19:24 Henry Fonda, says, hey, let's sit and talk about it. reasoning a giant problem. Why do you want to do this? Why, what? or is this one of those things that keeps Society's just it's it's fed by social media. It's fed by these fake accounts. It's fed by he had invited us to, and who was my best friend growing up in Lebanon. It takes something as difficult as what we went through through the Lebanese Civil War and erases it because he can't believe that I could do something as grotesque as to talk to Tucker Carlson.

23:37 There's all these different things. if you want to know whether the date that you're out with is a good person see how she he or she about like if i care about someone they're they're talking to someone that i find egregious you know Well, I'll be on the Hitler channel tomorrow when I go to Greg Gutfeld. was uh he was like he's kind of wild fella when you think think about what he was doing on a major television show implicating the CIA and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

26:35 I would imagine there's a lot of pressure by those people, those advertisers, Well, see, the difference between Budweiser and pharmaceutical drug companies is that Budweiser is not prescribed. It's not going to work. try that in a small town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and it's the racial aspect of it So she wrote in the, I guess he's a country music singer.

29:25 Yeah. It doesn't mean it's real. Yeah, yeah. So what else is up? Yeah, he's lovely. The bill came. What should espresso cost? they did not like coffee like they like coffee now. They are the greatest drug dealers the world's when it comes to drinking coffee. They used to think that if you drank a lot of coffee, And so in that chapter, I go through a bewildering number of phenomena, all of which adhere to that inverted U.

33:10 So many things adhere to that inverted you. and going through the research for this book, dalos went to a bunch of different islands it was really interesting man yeah we we checked And we spent, I think, maybe two days there, not a single tourist, just hanging out with the locals. Oh, right. A bunch of weird ones. But you hear it coming out of Brazil?

36:05 Yeah, they're going to be very mad at you. Quebec French is an affront to human dignity. Now listen to this. When she speaks to a Quebecer, and then I turn into the southern a cultural agreed upon way of communicating. your your words are very clear but there's like there's something going on has been that we haven't passed on our linguistic heritage, we meaning my wife and I, to our

39:08 But now it feels as if it's a vocabulary lesson, right? He'd have to keep up. Yeah. That's what they say. If you really want to learn a language, Because I would expect that the time at which I learned it, I snuck in just before that period. Let's see if you can do them. Sad. H. That means you're shit. Say it again. Oh, yeah, for sure. On the other hand, Arabic, as spoken by the Lebanese,

42:44 Meaning? noise with your mouth it's the perfect frequency say candy man in front of the in front of the I think if I had to pick an all-time scariest movie I think I would Isn't that amazing? Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah like and that that alien in this movie is elusive and intelligent and traps people Which is kind of a precursor to all the transgender

46:31 And so he doesn't like the idea of being aroused as a male because it is then, you know, attacking his desire to make the transition into being a female. Oh my God. Wow. And so for about a week I wore a face cast. Because it's like the benefits of being able to breathe out of your nose. There's no denying. Okay, well, let me A billion for a year? Well, 330 of that is so that he can transfer to the team and then 771 is

49:10 December 18th, 2022 World Cup final. We're not Argentinian, right? was driven by really a purity strand. That's awesome. that a loss is like really a loss Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a video game. We are really going through this battle with them. that you haven't been producing in the bedroom, Donald Curry was the welterweight boxing champion at the time.

53:33 And I ran. Okay. I couldn't deal with it. I don't remember, but I remember I went running. Like he was coiled. There you go. someone who's exceptional at it. I recently put, I don't know, maybe a few months ago, I put out a And so then I started thinking, what about other sports? opening for you to go one yard, I think that's reasonable. What just happened there?

57:31 Oh, my God. But it is possible that the defense could have prevented that if the defense is extraordinary and the guys are on point. No. There's none of that. the fittest athletes. Number one was soccer. And so you really have to have this incredible quickness to be able to. Let me see what it looks like. No. In terms of squash we're talking? We'd be drenched.

1:01:07 It's beautiful. Now I just, now that you said that you went to the soccer match here, that's because Austin I don't necessarily know when that is. He's one of the owners, too. so he's the of Austin yeah, oh Do you know the Canadian actor Ryan Reynolds? I just wanted to be sure. Let's do Ryan. Wre Rexham. He's co-owner. Okay. I knew it. I knew he was. I just wanted to be sure.

1:02:54 What a wild baller move. Oh, she's gorgeous. And then everything else is just different versions of that that you would think is kind of the epitome He's from an island. It has soccer. Okay, first of all, let me hit the brakes. They're tied, actually. Is that right? so hard. And to be at an Nice. They're ridiculously strong because they're throwing bodies around all the time and that throwing bodies around when they grab ahold of you

1:06:09 yes, Okay, Because if you look at guys like, uh, Carellon, Alexander Carellon, who's the scariest fucking wrestler of all time. Like a human panther. foot two 300 pounds and you know what his move is he throws people around he picks them up and beats them he catches me okay i would have to run away and i probably wouldn't be able to run away he's faster

1:07:54 So it's like rotational muscles. wrestling matches were around i want to say before 2000, because he did have offers. It's like you see a fake tap. But if he did fight MMA, everyone would be fucked. like if they knock me out before i get to them And now he's competing in MMA, and his last fight was a first round knockout with That's where it gets really dangerous.

1:11:15 Because Jon Jones just went up and easily won the heavyweight title with a first round submission. had one defeat that was a disqualification that's 100% bullshit. Yeah. You do it at an angle. So you can't do that on the ground. A regular elbow is just as hard. I bet this elbow is stronger for like the elite fighters. Like he let fights go on too long where he's like almost disinterested.

1:13:42 I mean, he's beaten so many people. They get this exchange. that it just drops oh my goodness and walks away cold blooded cold blooded that's the goat that's It's really interesting. because it's not even a matter of whether He was slowing Conor down. Because Conor's still an elite motherfucker. What's your? it should be Messi, really admirable that you know he truly is a role model right yeah that's beautiful so so i'm

1:18:06 That dude was struggling early in his MMA career and wasn't even sure if he was going I love the guy. I love that. He's wild. I love it Well, you do those. But I like that he's a wild fella. I like that he's fucking wearing ridiculous expensive suits and fucking giant watches and crocodile skin shoes. Enjoy it. Did you see there's a, i think it's an hbo

1:20:10 Yeah. Oh, there you go. So he's even better than that. I've said two words in this podcast. I can just look at the I don't know, man. Ukraine or whatever the subject du jour is. Yeah. It's everyone's so stereotypically on one side or And people think about things differently. If you wanted to do a test study of how a population, a free supposedly free population free thinking free

1:24:02 Like illness it's not good but there's a It's a giant portion of our population there is kind of a Dr. Evil, you know, nefarious thing behind this whole thing? You could only be four people on a boat. exhibit any epistemic humility, right? They made it seem as though they knew what they're talking you know the patriot act the patriot act 2 the ndaa all that crazy shit they whenever something

1:26:54 That's their job. because if you could just cheat and lie and then delete things off social media and What's the level of disingenuous, non-human, non-real person posting? Can you imagine Twitter just becomes bots arguing with bots and they finally realize no one's on it? Like, you would not post a story about the Hunter Biden laptop. It's just confusing.

1:29:25 to come on the show, This was at the time They're probably going to put a strike on my channel, that people do out of survival. Yeah. And it, it, it always sat badly with me because, Yeah. from ranting so you can clearly see Jon Stewart is in the middle of a bit he's There's nothing I wanted to do more than breathe everyone's air. Well, here FRIEND. OH, MY GOD, THERE'S NOTHING I WANTED TO DO MORE THAN

1:31:57 THAT IS CORRECT. Last time, well, actually, We were doing it in a little unused little bedroom with cables through the window and a satellite truck on our lawn. Combating pandemics because in 1918 the advice was wear a mask wash your hands It's the exact same... Look at Gilbert. I wouldn't do that to you. Oh, my God. The disease is the same name as the lab.

1:34:40 a pangolin kissed a turtle. Look at Colbert, though. How did that happen? All right. Look, they have the COVID-19 vaccine link there. Now, people really, there was an outcry, so they rescinded it. failure of public policy without it necessarily being a whole evil orchestrated thing. That's my strange when people have power to do things because some people are just gonna start doing those things

1:38:31 assistance in dying program known by the acronym made has been available for Yeah. because I'm all for people that have terminal illnesses It's devastating. A 60-year-old man who, from everything that I've heard, was an exemplary principal. But just the fact that he questioned the DAI cult, It's akin to being diagnosed with a terminal illness. The reality is I get tons of death threats.

1:41:38 someone who was of that faith because he looked like he came from that background. And so people then it can get pretty hairy. I remember one time I talked to you about So even the most, you know. You mean the color black means something else? So for example, the kuffar, the non-Muslim is himself impure, while urine is impure. within certain Islamic thought,

1:44:59 I can criticize feminism. I mean, I have tons of Muslim friends. just like there are doctrines in Deuteronomy But other ones a professor in Canada should have to worry about which street he walks on That there was pandemics attached to them? So pork, right? saying, how dare you? We're going to kill you for arguing that it's not divine. If I do the exact same thing with some Islamic doctrine, you know, very respectfully, very properly,

1:49:11 Who knows what the root of this stuff is? Like, especially when you're talking about ancient Christianity or whatever it was before it was even called Christianity. you're in those kind of environments when you're in a place that like used to be this like amazing When you see and you realize they built the Parthenon, are religious people on average happier? And the answer turns out that there is a moderate

1:52:02 But I am very much someone who sees the divine in things, right? And I meet a lot of people that are devoutly religious, particularly devoutly Christian or to use an evolutionary thing for social species. It makes perfect sense for us to have evolved That makes sense. I think it's all these things and then some. these things are true. And we're Yeah, so good. Sorry. No, I'm saying just that that alone someone argue against freedom of speech, it certainly wouldn't have been someone on the left.

1:56:48 Some of your viewers may have heard me mention this elsewhere, If I say it is okay to lie to spare someone's feelings. that we both know well is because that person has repeatedly violated what he should know better, Therefore, shut your mouth, right? was arguing that transgender people shouldn't live with full dignity and so on. But what we safeguards in place. So if you want to protect people from that, I don't know how you would do

2:01:02 flippant. It's because the only way you can handle we can't say that that's a male because that's a female because she said so. And I mean, that's the exact idea, right? such as there are no sex differences and practice gynecology You see it with these cases where these males with fully intact penises are wandering around women's locker rooms and women are freaking out.

2:03:49 a biological male who has come out as a woman of color who's a lesbian and he does it with all Find the actual interview, if you could, online. And he does it fully straight-faced. I think a lot of them believe it. And I think a lot of them, that belief is confirmed by their And it gives them meaning. be able to look at this from both sides and if you're an 11 year old girl and

2:07:10 always recognized that right but we've never taken the step into the abyss of finger fluidity and finger diversity. I argued that if you're born congenitally with nine fingers or nine toes, then we should no longer be teaching in biology class that boys and girls are born with ten fingers. that came across my Instagram feed I remember reading it going, I'm not ready for this.

2:09:45 It's terrifying. And it's not, And there was a psychological condition that they would talk about, an issue that people had. And there's so many problems that they're finding now, If that is true, that seems very unlikely statistically, doesn't it? Let's steel man this. an illness myself to garner sympathy and empathy. Munchausen syndrome by proxy is when I harm someone under my care to garner the empathy

2:12:45 super progressive woman who's got two transgender kids so it's a very very diabolically narcissistic Right, but people do win the lottery, right? which used to be fine. Yeah now it's like you know like whose penis was botched as the original culprit This picture? that she was not a boy and that she is a daughter also. So that – Yeah. because the identity thing is very new.

2:16:33 Well, that's the Lisa, is it Lisa Littman or Lisa Littman? Maybe Jamie can tell us. that dive into this Right. opposite body and shut up don't question it those two things can't coexist someone I think he stabbed a girl that he went to high school with to death and left her in the woods. Serial... Jamie, I'm sure, is going to pull it out. then he appeared

2:20:14 I remember that not to go out with him because she found him creepy. It's the social constructivist argument. decades in prison for murders and didn't commit. I've actually had a guy on my show, arguably the most remarkable story I've ever heard on my show. And I discuss it actually in my current book on stolen from him and yet he still had the grace and dignity. I think we can all learn a lot from

2:23:26 something especially now with deep fakes that's a problem again right but yeah if someone was Right. kills 10 guilty guys and one innocent guy we fucked up yeah and i think that i don't know what the And my good friend Josh Dubin has worked with a lot of these different people. And because of that, because knowing that those exist, i can't support something that's going to

2:26:27 That's the reason why, isn't it, in firing squads, You know what you're doing. I what you're doing i mean you can find this. And my answer is my job is to always err on the side of safety. So there's no sleepovers, And to protect them too much is actually damaging to their development. I've actually argued in the happiness book. They're also like people that come from communist countries in particular. They are just so allergic to that horse shit.

2:30:04 Like, how do you enforce that? Like, who gets to choose? Like, what the fuck are you signing Well, I have these ideas. well, why should you get to keep the money instead of you not being a selfish pig and sharing it with to the way you're living in this life And they get to pass laws and dictate and if the system is flawed, They're not going to work.

2:33:48 not a quality of skill, of talent. And it's genuinely anti-human nature. And I'm not sure They don't have to. You don't want to be Michael Jordan. Well, don't fucking practice 12 hours a It's hard to be Michael Jordan. But if you want it to be fair and send some to the Godside Trust Fund. I haven't been able to for two main reasons, Joe. It is. It sucks hard.

2:36:19 It sucks. Cold as fuck in March. You got to dig yourself out of three feet of fucking snow. There's fuckheads at every corner of the world. It's great i just don't you were quite a fan, and then you revised your opinion. But, you know, it's funny that you say he's good looking because Megyn Kelly came on my show and her view, He doesn't exude any masculinity.

2:38:59 Where you know your boxing expertise through some hands you know is that right he's going after it yeah um but Insane. It really is. but it's three times now that he's in. And each time he's gotten, I think, no more than about 30 in my riding. And now that is tallied up. And since he's the prime minister, the leader of that party, He's in power. It's unbelievable.

2:41:48 It's not. get into control, they're going to expand their control even They brokered a deal. No, it's in terms of the number of seats in the parliament. Right now, the top guy in the conservative party is Pierre Polievre. I don't know if you've know anything about him. It just doesn't seem like it's moving I can't remember what it is. Cornel West left the Democrats to run for president under another party.

2:45:19 Yeah, so that's interesting because there's a lot of people that are Cornel West supporters And they might vote for him and it might sway votes in one way or another. in office because If you grew up with it, this is going to sound so alien to you. Yeah. And they thought like, yeah, let's have something different. Like someone who understands how to run a fucking business.

2:48:10 forth. I'm thinking it's pretty valid. There's a certain amount of people they're gonna vote blue no matter who all right. We just need a better It's Gavin Newsom. I was very fortunate when all the shit was going down in California in whatever it was, maybe your job depends on you staying there and it's a good job, They arrest them when they commit a crime and put them right back on the street.

2:50:27 There's so many businesses that are closing down. I don't see any readjustment. Give them needles. That's great, man. Right. California was like radical But the overwhelming amount of people who are in the big urban areas, like, specifically San Francisco and Los Angeles, they're in the fucking fog of it. So maybe I need to be wearing a hazmat suit or something.

2:53:05 fall apart and then have it be brought to do stand-up all the time Those are the people up there. Just 30 years later. He's amazing. A lot of them at least do. They have good intentions. They think this ideology is a California. It's also hard when you have like, it's very like, it takes a long time to build a So here comes the car. This is a long-ass video.

2:56:51 Bro. And then you can see them climbing the stairs. I believe so. Here, back it up a little so we can see. Oh, so that's the person driving the car. Wow. So that's the back? That was in the back passenger seat. We've covered a lot of ground. Really? Columbus? Never been. I think a lot of places used that narrative. it's mostly peaceful. Oh, well, that's nice.

3:00:49 Yeah, an adventure and not dying when you're walking to a restaurant like holy shit minus 40 I think the only time ever that I did it. because there's a certain like fucking roughness to those people. I'm like, you guys are out of your fucking mind. Weird. It's got great old architecture. Much less antiseptic than Toronto, perfectly happy to speak French, but you shouldn't have to mandate that by instituting draconian laws.

3:04:17 and we need to do whatever we can to protect it. there. Well, you know, you got to stay there and keep it down. Hold it down. You're one of the few Like, he's a Nazi. in a lot of the ways because of who you are and because of your academic background because you're Those are very sweet words. My pleasure, brother. and hear it in your Joe bye Thank you. Let's do it again. Anytime. Anytime. Let's do it again. All right. Love you. Thank you. Bye.