Joe Rogan Experience #20140706 — Fight Companion - July 7, 2014 Transcript

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0:00 All right, you're on. Yeah, Southwest Airlines. If you never heard this podcast before, this is what we call Fight Companion Podcast. The fight starts now. Look at this. Which is pretty impressive because Scoggan's a good wrestler. Arbar, son. And that's what we're doing right now. But it's a good way to call it. He's done. That's super slick, son.

2:35 Wow, he got out of that. Yeah, that thing's done, son. That arm, that arm might be jackmified. For sure. Jackmified. Jackmified, at least. Another word. Yeah, that thing's done, son. Well, he was. Wow. These motherfuckers go for days. They're hummingbirds. Jujitsu. What a fucking weekend. He's going to spin. You can't shrimp out. It's for the fans.

4:52 Only this guy can drop down for a guillotine. and Duke became a Muay Thai world champion, Dude, if you're a UFC fan, you are just jizzing your pants for this weekend. And UFC, what? Well, that's Vegas, man. Look at this. Boom with the right hand. And then Dustin with a nice left hook there. Look at this. You can keep it. Some of the gamblers. Look at how Scoggin it there, man. I know. Some gamblers.

7:21 Dustin Ortiz is He's got that right arm hooked like he's going for a crucifix here. Did he really? Yep. First fight of the night. Was he drinking fucking raw milk all day and stuff? He's got some great stories about the old wrestling days, international wrestling. Guys talk about their relationships that they have with their trainers like that. That is interesting.

9:06 I was talking to TJ about it. It was supposed to be in Vegas. That's a good question. Five rounds of a pure-ass whooping is not a fluke. I get that. It's almost a default, though, you know? Bring it. You're correct. He might use both his feet. like a Mark Munoz, it opens you up for submissions. he is such a stud that guy's a fucking legend he was one of the heavyweight champions of extreme

11:46 He trained out of Seattle, though, right? Really? At 50? Some guy. It was like the hoist Gracie days, the early days. Maurice's ground game was all about defense, 100% defense. He goes, come on, Mark Come on, ground and pound me Because he's not like an angry guy Like you look at like a Pacquiao who doesn't want to hurt anyone. He just looked like. We'll be right back. Dustin Ortiz with a nice straight left. This is a great fucking fight. Meanwhile, we're talking about all sorts of shit from the past,

14:43 That was a lot of fun in front of a bunch of people. Nothing. but nothing like that. Very hard to finish from half guard. Wish I was little. You say you don't care about the beach. Towards the end of my career, I'll do it. Everyone always asks me that, though. 185? He's a big fucking guy. most weight in between fights? Well, it used to be Rumble Johnson.

16:56 I said, you're going to make 170 in two months? Dustin Ortiz is no joke, man. Beautiful how he switched it. This is great stuff. That's not by accident in the heat of the moment trying to finish that show but that's a crazy come on bro i'm trying For anything. wait for that bro one started i can't wait purge one started as a small movie it started i think

19:18 Yo, Ethan, man, I have this independent project. shows. A good friend Who won this fight? Wow. Of course. I'd have to watch it. Not committed. They make him score the rounds. I say, you know, I think this guy won the fight or won the rounds, is three minutes and there's a bunch of them. That doesn't make any sense to me. takedowns. Yeah. Nine and a half.

22:51 Whatever. In Thailand. Then I'm finally out of there. So I do this interview, and he goes, yeah, man, that fight was awful. Oh, when we were done, he's like, listen, man, I'm going to give you my – don't bother. radio bullshit that's leaked into mma you know like that they think that they can be cool well if you've had more than a few fights there's going to be some that are just go off you might be sick

25:34 Fight sucked. it gave him a chance to jump in oh that fight was terrible oh so before that oh so there was like a They gave Arlovsky a main event against Bigfoot. won that fight really you're off i don't wow I don't at all. And I think the time away No, go ahead. You got this, Dane. For folks like a serious, legit heart condition. In his hometown. Oh, for sure.

28:24 steps up to the Big guys have a real hard time. Those really tall, him. One, name the oldest fighter I don't know. With a little nub. Well, giraffe is a perfect way to describe him because he's so long and gangly. Everyone's going to hate me, man. He's a one-armed fighter. We had the same head coach in Denver. manhandled him, right? Beat him up. Flipping through the channels. You're like, oh, check it out.well's very good. He's very tough. Now, let's say you've never seen MMA before. You're flipping through the channels.

31:01 I remember when in high school we would Well, deaf. One arm, though? He turns his hearing aid off. with wrestlers has a good effect you know I'd be onto something It seems like it would. Bud Light. To you, Mr. Couch Karaoke guy. Super nice guy. Yeah. We were like, what are you doing? Here, I'll do it. Don't let those asses go out like the dodo bird.

34:18 I'm like, just give me a second. wears a three-piece. All friends here. First you're sucking it in. If you hold it in, it doesn't matter. That's his name. How you doing? No, you said, what weight? He's bigger. Thicker, for sure. He's trying to get me fired up. talking shit about him and me and him fighting, Brendan, how tall are you? You look a lot taller than me.

36:47 God that guy's tough We're at a UFC Chuck Liddell He's out. Easy. Been there. Did he say belt? Yeah. Be careful is gone. He just goes, what happened? Yeah, been there. Yeah, you don't even want to be in the same room as Cain Velasquez, dude. I love it. I was just a super fan, and Pride came to Vegas. but my boy goes, hey, man, get a picture. As for a picture, I said, pic.

38:50 And I literally was like, no, no, stuttering and shit. Oh, yeah. You know, I'm just like, you want to be 100% honest? What's he going to do? Fuck everything. Yeah. And so, you know, I'm not going to say what I re-said, What happened again? And you joke around. Fuck that guy means I'd love to fight him. Because he wants to fight me. That's what you want.

41:33 We're in this room. I forget where I'm at sometimes. Oh, man. 6'3", Brian. Boy, okay. Oh, boy. Herb Dean. I damn Herb Dean gotta love Herb this just in Crank this shit up. I respect him more. They must be in some sort of a thing. Okay, okay. Like, a lot of guys using the wrong shit, Oh, God. After our last few, I was like, I might need to check myself in the rehab. You'll be able to fight a 205 me I'm going to tell you guys that right now 100% After our last game I was like I might need to check myself

44:39 She was like listen the only way you can hit this They get wild, man. Recorded everything he was saying. Just all kinds of nasty stuff when he was having sex with her. Sweet. and then floyd mayweather just put a clinic on him. You think he cuts too much or he's not fast enough? The only time I've ever seen him hurt Well, I definitely want to see the Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Shane Mosley rematch.

46:44 I hadn't seen him in forever. That's what it is. You guys probably won't watch that. I'm like, dude, there's a show about a guy that makes pools. I'll tell you right now, if you tell me Team Mom's scripted, I'm going to freak out. I get more Instagram followers by getting pregnant than getting on MTV? It's like teen pregnancy I was just looking He doesn't. He's wide as a house. Yeah, but I mean, he's actually in a suit. He looks kind of like a thick guy. You're saying he's kind of small? He just doesn't look like, you know,

49:11 Because you'll see a little jiu-jitsu guy I know. And what is he, You know what he is? nervous. It looks like he's going to buy milk. He didn't have them with Dan fucking Henderson. Holy You bastard. You killed Dan. Couldn't He's like What are we doing You want to put your jacket on for this interview? I don't get it, man. I know what I'm saying. Oh, my God.

51:55 Interesting, man. Did he stop doing it? Yes. He was selling it so other guys could perform it. It's the difference I mean, I guess he was a performer. They have to have it for material? Well, then I'm a chick because I take forever. There you go. How's it fit? No, because you're like thick. I have a 32-inch waist, so I buy a 33 or 34-inch waist so they fit my legs.

54:22 Didn't sleep for four days. I go, eh, eh, eh. So we can cuddle now. at first. It feels like you're going to throw up like someone's Your tonsils and your adenoids Is long recovery It was easy Do you still breathe great? Well, you probably went back to the gym like a week later and started getting punched in the face. hit in the face who knows how many times. I know I broke my nose at least probably 10, a dozen times,

56:40 the turbinates all these different things we're to spread it out. So he cut me open and took out all this scar tissue. I had the same thing, but my nose collapsed And I'm telling you. No, no, from my, must have taken it from my nose, I'm going to bail Brian out on this one. When I was, I literally had to have to normal by the way Another summer. This is how naive and stupid I was. This is how cocky I was back then.

58:54 He fought Andrei Orlovsky. You got to keep it real. This is Guillermo del Toro. Anything with vampires, I watch. This is all for dudes trying to date chicks. I'm farming sand bitch You know like maybe the girls And they hate me Yeah, some Jessica Biel-looking farmer bitch. out there, right? I mean, you do stand about in Minnesota Trying to be nice the whole time. Okay, so

1:02:06 Have you ever seen the cover Like kisses all over his face Living the life Whenever Yves Levine comes into your back room, he's like, listen, I'll be your ref. He's a very good referee. Look at that. Scroll down, yeah. Like really all. Eddie Gordon and Diego Lima. Whoa. Beautiful uppercut. Boom. Man, that kid can cry. Damn. 220? Matt Serra, very excited.

1:04:59 No one fucks up Machida like that. Boom. Yeah, but if it's in transition, you're fine. Well, that was kind of behind the ear. That's not you. Now he's out. His arm went limp way before that, though. And like I said, they tell you in the back. Place on, I watch it too. Never done a steroid in his life. Who's making shit up? Brian, he's 42. I'm always wrong

1:06:52 Splitting hairs Incendiary I'm afraid of them It's more dangerous Every biker will tell you it's a matter of time. He slid off his bike and hit a curb and hit his head. Jacked him off. That was bad news. What's Monsters.com? But I felt like doing it Yeah. You lose that one, you're done. Who'd you fight? I was so nervous, man. gone from the UFC, gotten

1:09:43 organizations? Anthony Johnson got cut, but that was mostly a weight issue thing. He missed weight, though, again. Good on that, Sarah. You know, I've got to have Dolce on and talk to him about that shit. Yeah, I'd say whatever Dolce's doing, probably stick to that, everybody. it when he's champ when he's competing at 205 is 203 pounds yeah tough form

1:11:49 a weight class, now it's almost even. Where it hits the... Just a black eye all the time. Here's your show again. Dun, dun, dun, dun. No, I did not. I don't want to have to try to run against the Denver Broncos. slapping their faces as they run by. Quite honestly. Why? That'd be a weird thing to make up, wouldn't it? That never happened. That's exactly what he said. He said,

1:14:29 Where did they get it from? Things get real shady when you're talking about something like that. Guys, I'm going to stick to my guns here. I like working out. Let me tell you something. He's a Jiu-Jitsu champion. Yeah. He's a Jiu-Jitsu champion. straight forward. or the guy his Muay Thai I mean, you're seeing these guys in other organizations. You have to have security.

1:16:38 Not one person stopped him. No sponsors. You can't be – I mean, I love Rampage, but you need to build your own. Beautiful straight left. What? Yeah, it was dope. Only the best for this thing. It's like snuffleupagus in a ski mask. the area near your butthole must smell awful right and just ring but you don't have you can wear it to the mall Good back structure there.

1:18:59 I was just saying. Yeah, I get very cute in. idiots people listening yeah he thought the rock was 24 years old and by the way Probably really isn't a black belt in Taekwondo, but it's okay. Well, who's this fucking, what's his face? This is that movie He got shot by that guy He was a big mogul, or came from a family. I'll follow it up right here. Wow.

1:21:01 How about that? compared to Jonah Hill. The other one, Because if you've ever seen what Mark Schultz looks like, Mark Schultz, the wrestler, is a fucking animal. He'd use Kimuras, and he would hit a Kimura and just rip guys' shoulders off while he was taking them down. Yes. And he wound up killing Dave Schultz, who was a great wrestler. It's more to the movie.

1:22:42 No? What is it? The Conjuring. That movie sucks. I'll tell you what. Scariest movie of all time. I would have to think about that. out of me the greatest of all time like it might have been See, that's the thing. When I saw I would be terrified. The Shining's a good one. I'm going with The Conjuring. That was a scary goddamn movie. And they had hooked the great white.

1:25:35 What are you going to do with it? Gangster tattoo 28 Days Later Paranormal Activity? When I thought it was real, I was super scared. We were working in Houston. And so we did a show. fucking theater, and we sat the kid was talking. Nah, they were, you know. It was cool that they did that for us, though. So are we officially hunting You're changing it on me

1:28:19 Because it says the last week black-tailed deer in So you are around the end of September. Animal lover. Can't pull it back. Yeah, but you weigh eight pounds. That's what he kept doing. I'm 170. Kipping? Those are kipping chin-ups. It's a frightening fucking guy. And fucking running shoes And I was like In the middle of Russia Yeah, he used to do a lot of old school training methods.

1:31:05 If you're not, you're not an MMA fan. And he was much bigger back in the day. Oh, okay. What led him to decide- Yeah. Well, you know what Steve Maxwell's thought on that is? Like you shouldn't be like doing these fucking crazy strength and conditioning workouts while you're in camp working out for fights He said exactly what you just told him. like while you're in a fight camp.

1:33:38 if I would lift weights, I'm done. So when I go in camp, my body's going to break down. Especially if you're a younger fighter, Yeah, those are gynomastica. Yeah, him. These guys that are fighting. At 205, that's insane. He's out of it. Oh, Jesus. Wow. Corey's all over him. You can recover this. Good stoppage. No, not at all. Purple nipples? I didn't see any needles.

1:36:45 One guy fought in the UFC once that had like, there's a close-up on the nipples there. One guy fought in the UFC once that had a serious problem. Look at this. Boy, boom. No. Is that right? Yeah, this is the Expendables. A long time ago We had lawyers involved Who was the guy 2006? Yeah, and he's. Time to make your money. He's probably crunk from Blade and doing all these stunts.

1:39:51 He went through some dark periods. So he did nothing. him not to pay taxes. Let me get No. I'm not worried about that. You always do this. He's heavier than me. And you make a mistake. I was planning on failing every drug test, by the way. You always train high? And then roll. It makes me more focused. You should do it. Joking around on the podcast.

1:42:31 Eddie was a little high last night. He had a long hair. He tries to give me tips and shit. That guy's a nice guy, Justin's story was depressing as fuck. It's bad. I can't contribute to the story. when we got it. I feel you, bro. Yeah, depressing Justin's was horrible. And he kept bringing it back in. It sucks when your dad's explain something to me later on that night

1:44:46 I get it. He just got hammered. I've never met him, man. Why can't you bring him Dude, he wants to do of really funny guys. He's not at all? He just never runs out of stories, and he's got a fucking personality that goes on for days. Couldn't look more like a 9-to-5-er? Yeah. What? Thanks a lot, Dr. No Help. Nothing not to love about the guy. I would vote for him.

1:47:35 Let's say before he was a felon. freaking doing tours when you're ordering Why are they showing it? There's a lot of knockouts on this guy, right? This is where I should have stopped right there, I think. I was like... similar to the Coliseum. Tell me that reality no one stops it, someone's dying. Super empty. this morning, and when I flew orange. It's like a glowing

1:49:52 I got two real solid workouts in. She was there. She works out hard. She's a beast, man. She's girl. Marina. Yeah, very cool chick. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, she was putting her strength and conditioning work out. Now I love Frankie Edgar Always, always. Yeah, and then he easily made 145. I didn't know that. he's a superstar. And, you know, he's got a lot of ego.

1:52:39 Yeah. Brian thinks BJ Penn's 21 years old. Yeah, it's been a while. It actually takes you back to the other fight. Okay, let's try here. 35. Word up. No, I don't. They opened up at 10 to 1. Frankie? I don't. It hurts to say because I love BJ. Do you know what the odds are? No, I don't. They I'd say if not the best. I was with Rikala Almeida, his striking coach, Mark Henry.

1:55:31 because he calls every combination you see. A ton. News with gold chains? That's where I was born. I don't think there's another coach in the world who works harder than Mark Henry. There was no big guys around And then I always think that at least if You know, like. Like, we might have to fight so he doesn't want to work together thing to step up to. Yeah, but so we were going to fight, but then he was like, nah, man, we might have to fight

1:57:32 have to fight, dude. Look how skinny BJ is. He gets so emotional. God damn. Yeah, so I like those gloves too. It shows you how smart Frank is, too. and you don't have all that? You must feel like Yeah, we'll talk about this on air. I almost thought about staying in Vegas just for this fight. Cro Cop in the prime, and I would have went home to LA right now.

1:59:56 vegas i never saw him real ass whooping that was a real ass whooping that was hard to watch Oh, he's way thinner. The promotion's called The Rock? He fought Lyoto in Japan. TJ and Joey. Yeah. Did some great stuff with G. Condo, I forget, One of the best ever. in the same sentence. i was doing martial arts when i first started they still had this issue where people were loyal to

2:02:24 Oh, yeah, he does. Well, he worked out like aspirin with painkillers. He had a head I literally, I Googled it because I was getting so much heat about Bruce Lee. And you'll see Mark Henry running right behind him. Holy shit. I thought it was very close, but I thought Frankie won. he was immediately rushed to Hong Kong Baptist Hospitals he had a cerebral edema

2:04:24 in his first collapse Ba ba ba ba ba. Three went over He did not turn up for dinner. She came to the apartment Could be, man. officially it was ruled death by Look at BJ. Definitely going for BJ. Not just black belt You know, that's one of the benefits that he's always had, because of his legs. Oh, my goodness. That's cool in certain positions, but it's weird. He doesn't have flexible hamstrings.

2:07:32 Look how tall he's standing. Freddie Roach said BJ has the best boxing he's ever seen for an MMA guy. Dude he looks different than I've ever seen him before He's super tall on his tippy toes. Frankie's looking for a takedown. Wow, this is crazy to watch. I do. It was weird. You'd have to, right? No no Trying to pass this butterfly guard. DJ has ridiculous guard.

2:10:10 Yeah, he always gets their back. I'm going to be impressed. That's Ensign Inouye style. Again, the same. Is that a black guy? There's a lot of thick Japanese guys. Let's refer to him as Satoshi. Someone's trying to explain. Up we go. Okay, BJ back up. Let's see this. So strange. than that guy. I don't know. That guy was Man. Peabree. he disengaged. Frankie landed more kicks,

2:13:00 Yeah. The system should be 30 points. You know what I mean? They're actually looking at some alternative scoring methods now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the second round, still looking good He's so good at defending that single leg It's very odd. Mm-hmm. that's what I think you are bold though mmm And he can't pass Armbar victory Like, of all his skills. And he really only

2:16:17 I don't know. Remember when he had Rico's back and Rico threw himself back on top of It's so strange. Ronda's arm bars are fucking ridiculous. Yeah. like, you remember Paul Sass? He's probably nodding out. Oh, he's going to sweep him. Frankie's on top of him, elbowing the shit out of him here. Two rounds. See, like here, you can, I mean, at his level, you can go for legs here and you can go for ankles.

2:18:40 Not this one, the other one. deep breaths now. Two rounds in the hole His face looks like, fuck it. I gotta be and revamp everything. You can't. So weird. Frankie's just more active You know like he'll shuffle in for the punches Oh, I know. You don't really hear much lately. TJ Grant knocked him out, too. Oh, man. He can't just lay here with him in his guard like he's been doing.

2:22:09 Well, Frankie's half past here. I love seeing it. Oh, BJ's cut bad now. you're throwing the towel. And BJ's got two more minutes of this to deal with Man BJ just doesn't have an answer He does not have an answer He's gonna look at the cup. Wow. Ah damn. Man. him? How crazy would that be? What if he gets the mount? This is not cool Herb's gonna stop the fight man

2:24:02 Wow Amazing performance. It's crazy, man. They all like this. I don't see Anderson go down like this. Boom. He got down on his knees. Tell me about it, especially at heavyweight. Like, the nerves are different you're dealing with. Rothwell? Wow. And at heavyweight, it's a different bird. A wrestling clinic. It wasn't cool to watch. There's another little thing to that.

2:27:24 It's tough to watch. And Mike McCallum hit Donald Curry with a left hook to the body and then a left hook I can't. I get super stressed out and sad about it Yeah, he cut to 65. Yeah. Or it might have been Elite XC. It was Elite XC. My God. It was pretty bad. Say, all right, is that when you, All right. Right. Orlovsky, this is not a gift. With his condition and stuff like that, not possible.

2:30:36 I think so. All right, he doesn't eat this stuff. Fuck that noise. No. He does not look the same. He's got small hands and feet. Easy. And that is the truth. you punch me in the face, and I suffer horrible brain trauma However juiced up, it's helping him. He was at normal levels. He said he was going to sue him. It didn't show in the Cormier It's crazy.

2:33:46 If you're doing EPO and everything, you assume he's also doing that. That is the question. No, that's just ethically wrong. And then it turns out that they have this incredibly detailed testing that Lorenzo pays for that's $45,000 per fighter. Yeah. expensive as shit. it's worth it to risk it. Well, what is? Lance Armstrong. Well, so is getting punched in the face.

2:36:23 if your bat speed slows down a lot of times in the major leagues. Came back. He's fine. Why wouldn't I Like, yeah, he's back. Guaranteed. You rat it out. Yeah, you have that stuff. You go to jail for lying. Listen, if Brian Stan tells me something, as far as the government goes, I'm for sure I'm really freaked out right now. There's a headline going to be tomorrow.

2:38:38 60%. I just assumed. 30% uppercut. And broke his jaw or something. I assumed. Watch the NFL Network. They make such a big deal of it. But you're not better at beating the fuck Looks like he's having a good old time. Get the fuck out of here. They did have the hungry eyes for Big Brown, huh? They like the merchandise. You hit a little white ball? do anything about it.

2:41:34 and sweaty. Not even close. I really do. 100% she would. I love that guy. Dan Cormier once again, kids. I can't stand my neighbors. Oh, no. They yell at me when I bang on the walls. I bang on the walls, and she yells at me. You gave them a motivational talk? No, I don't. I'm like, fuck, man. Who needs someone Someone's gonna yell at you He gets up.

2:44:31 Da, da, da, da. Are you? Get into my horse stance. like i was she was like really smart she went to prince and i was like oh look hemingway i don't Really? And the one, you know, guys would be like, yeah, man, there's only three weeks left. And it's the same thing in fighting. But if you look at the grand scheme, like, oh, man, I got 12 weeks to get ready for this fight.

2:46:53 Like, if you look at your overall mixed martial arts game and trying to improve and trying to compare all these things, Yeah. What is the best thing that you So when it goes... Wow. That's where I get my confidence from though, man. I'm just going to drink a juice for four days. First time I've had fast food in probably eight years. A little humanity.

2:49:03 I would never wear clothes if I had your body. I never want people to see me not in shape, which I am in shape, Wasn't worried at all about the way he looked. Okay. gut hanging over his belt, and probably fucking think i'm some of the biggest stars i know most successful people i know are very self-conscious I'll tell you off air, though. I was super down. I was going to crash Brian's facade into the end just to alleviate some depression. For sure, man. I was super down.

2:51:20 When's the next one? 16th. Who's where? Where are you guys at? I'm going to try real hard to get Joey Diaz in here. So, all right, you dirty freaks. Big Brown. Can you get Big Brown on Twitter? Come see me in West Palm. We will see you with a real podcast tomorrow.