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0:00 Yeah! And this is a live Fight Companion podcast. Brian Callen's supposed to be here, but of course he's fucking late. Yeah, we can get some of that in there, too. Can you do that? When you're ramping up and training. Big one. Yeah, you got an issue with her. He used to come out with pigtails? Why do I know this? It says 12.05 on my phone Maybe it's just a delay for the main card.

3:32 Fuck off. He asked me to corner him like a week before, and he goes, dude, you want to come down? He'd lose some. I go, let me hook you up with him. So, because he was studying his opponent. from the rubber guard a guillotine with your leg involved it's on hold on a second it's on Let's see. It didn't switch over from the pre... Oh, how weird. There we go. We rolling. It didn't switch over from the prelims.

5:58 Addiction. And Matt Horwich versus Dan Miller. Is it every single fight that the UFC's ever had? Everything. Everything. Wow. All the Strikeforce fights too. Even the early ones like UFC 2? Everything. Everything? There's also a... There's also a crazy show called UFC Now with a couple of cutie pies on there. He's talking about himself being a cutie pie.

7:41 Don't worry I met a guy. One of the things you recognize about comedians, beer just a little insulated i thought you meant jacuzzis And who's his opponent? Powerful Ariane in Japan. Hola. Delos Reyes. Oh, he still does. It was his idea. It's over. and he's a striker, if he's that good of a striker, to buy time until the ref stands you up. He's being silly.

11:11 I know the Eddie Bravo humor. I mean, we're seeing it. Look how good Ben Saunders' control was. Yeah, he got out of it, man. No! Jesus, Dolce was telling me that Nick Lentz walks around like a buck 70, a buck 75, and he gets down to 145. I don't know. These boys are scrapping. Oh, these are hard shots. Is that a bottle of wine, you savage? It's us two.

14:14 Seriously. We should sell koozies. We should sell koozies. You just missed this. 4'5". No, Voice of an angel? I know he sings. He's got an amazing voice. Jamie can you he's actually Korean Jamie Jim anyone glasses. He's half Korean half Japanese. No wine glasses, dude I'm with you. and jiu-jitsu technique you have to be so technical to just survive in the sport look at that left

16:35 Who's not terrified of him? Booze! He had him locked up and the bell rang. Hold on. You knew what it was when you went out to buy it? What do you know about wine? without question 100 i've been doing a lot of deadlifts. He was in the airport Yeah. Straight up. no, I'm cool, man. these guys out like that? oh no, hell no. If you're selling a product like the UFC, I can see two arguments.

19:46 It's one thing everybody loved about Tank who fought in the UFC about the benefits. I can call him up at any time, like Donald Cerrone. He'll fight anybody. TJ fought. Got signed by the UFC. See, that's a little different. It's a different kind of animal to call somebody, like, yo, Hector Lombard, you got eight weeks. Nick Diaz? blockbuster fight. He just

22:06 for McGregor. he just, the way he beat Eric Koch, He moves like a snake. but they're very mechanical. in and out. he'll, I want to see him get built up. It's true. And a guy like Poirier Coke was like set to fight for the title. just go, yep, give it to us. I'd be like, probably not, homeboy. You better fake an ankle injury right quick. The difference between you now

25:02 I was so shitty You know. She's your next Showtime Pettis. She is going after this chick. The girl clinches up with her. and positioning? and stuff her. That fucking flying arm bar was ridiculous. It was like- Yeah, and the first day they came in, they showed them a flying triangle, a flying armbar. She's athletic. If you watch that again, if you watch it again, look at where her legs are on the arm bar.

27:13 Let's see it again. It's between the two arms. No, her left leg. Look at her left leg. It's between the two arms. I thought at the end, she finished it with her two arms in. It's trapped in between the legs. Yeah, it's true. So you see everything. See, that girl's right leg was just like dangling over. She's definitely the hottest one. And she's attractive.

29:06 Very beautiful. You're so lame. I know, but, you know. Salute my brother That was nice Kunimoto. Ooh, these boys are trading. That's not a thing where you can sit, right? The deep half, So, when you grow a beard, does it just look Look at that. Kit Dale's got a funny Instagram page. Everyone's kind of doing it, though. Okay, Dad. Why? Now you got big guys wearing skinny jeans.

31:59 Yeah, diamond cup. in a thai steel cup but i would imagine that first of all you know i rolled with remember a mirror the arm bars the IBJJF See, I agree, but I think a cup that doesn't hurt, like a diamond cup, I had dick bleeding once. You know I wouldn't wear one if I didn't have to. And in training. But what is the difference between a regular-

34:04 They're going to do random tests. He was a fucking science experiment. advantages, but he was the best cheater. Oh, nice. Oh, beautiful. because he does both. I don't remember. You hear the crack. Jesus. Wow. That guy is Sakuraba. But then again, Mexicans are tough. That's what I heard. Remember he fought that dude, the big jujitsu dude, Eric, guy from Hawaii.

37:14 That's right. Eric Pele versus Bigfoot Silva. Man, I can't remember. Find that, Jamie. Eric Pele versus Bigfoot Silva. He's light. That's what you want. I'm a Mark Hunt fan to the end. His KO is Stefan Struve. Scary dude, man. have been there when I was first anybody's leg kick sound like that before. I was like, God damn it. Awesome. And he goes, oh, we throw a lot.

40:36 Joe didn't want to. Crushes it. Am I lying? Whatever his name is. It's tough. You only work with The hardest kick We got in the car It's nutty shit, man. bags from when I felt it. This was like 2000, You knew your arm would break. and i go joe now you kick it and then everyone go oh it's like a shotgun and then we're like oh my in his old house in the garage showing it backstage at King to Rico Rodriguez

44:16 I showed probably 50 people that day. His hands are too big. Watching like a movie He was practicing kicks Oh my god Tore my MCL The week before I won the ultimate fighter right before I went in the tough house. This motherfucker decided to start using him. Oh my god. No more, you behemoth. This Japanese guy goes with the body triangle now I'm not a fan of the body triangle.

46:06 So it's almost a stalling technique now. I'm not disagreeing. I would go right to that. So it's super tough, man. wrists up and you're not allowed to put anything on your hands i'm sorry you just can't hit as hard there's no movement in your fucking heel, man. I'm saying get rid of the gloves. It doesn't do much. It's harder to get rid of than it is on the chokes. It's true, of the hand, that big thick thing. It's harder to get rid of by jokes.

49:01 We were barely paying attention. Eddie, because there's like more stuff on top. not even an argument i'm not married to it i'll I'd be happy if they kept fighting with UFC gloves. But I think there can be a debate that it would probably be just as safe with no gloves add submissions get rid of them i think i think that um if uh i think if you have gloves on, you probably can KO people better.

50:38 That's what we want to see. Well, this is all, I think it's all remnants of boxing, you know? They already had judges that knew how to score a 10 for the winner, 9 for the loser. Fuck yeah. Unofficial judge. and then I'd say, and he would write, like, what type of submission, how close it was. So many factors. Right. What about if I'm a submission artist?

53:15 A guy's trying to submit you. But let's say in that Ben Saunders fight, let's say that exact same thing happened every round. I bet it would be 50-50 depending on where you're fighting. Let's say Ben Saunders didn't- I know. And if in the truck they're showing They do that 100% for sure. But a few. Brendan Shaw has a weird Look at her picture. No way.

55:41 Takes only one day off a month. One drop. I hope she doesn't get smoked. It's called marketing. Okay. It's weird you have Brian's store in your car. If your opponent- He you going to a store, Brian? No, bro. It's in my car. Okay. Would you allow... It's true. I would probably say no Look at this. She gots all butt on her son. It'd be kind of hot because she's like this super strong.

58:03 You know what I'm saying? You're dealing with a sneaky guard. I don't think that would go over well. What if you were fighting... I know, but I kept taking him down. I forget. I honestly don't care that much. Oil them up. I'm going to oil these things up. Warm up. Soak in it. Are you being for reals? Can you punch up Gabby Garcia? I don't care if she's 300 pounds.

1:00:41 Rin Nikai. Or the bantamweight champion Slippers and shit Because she doesn't know what to expect. She could be setting her up. Nerves. Hey, Brian, for sure quit churning into the mic. He can't push it away. It's my friend it's right there it looks like misha's gonna dominate Liz Karmush. And she gives up the back all the time with that. You know why? it's because she wasn't trained with a cage so she went she wasn't

1:02:49 Is that going to actually happen She looks like a giant. Not that impressed, I've got to be honest. You never know, man. Misha looks great. That's what she's thinking right now., holy shit, I'm in the UFC. That's what she's thinking right now. No, he's being honest. Well, Frank's had a long career, man. and Sam flew into the air. Frank's one of the best ever to do it.

1:04:47 It's over. It helps. What does she do with a girl like Rhonda Hey, Bake still lived in a nice crib. I like Shake. Why do you want the TV Shake and bake. and they were doing that thing where they were climbing the wall, She literally has hate in her and... And you don't want to be Misha I did, man. Man. Excuse me, sir? It's lube. Can you imagine lube made from real butt oil?

1:08:05 Checking your honey pot. This is a Butter oil. Checking your honey pot. But you guys dragged me in. But things like that. No. That's my point. If it's a cunt punt. Weird shit happens when people are durable. You get this, we give you big brown. She's going to shake her off. Those legs are too thick. durable little gal. She's going for it. Good, strong. On top again.

1:10:45 She's winning this round right now. Just right now? We were talking so much shit. Like they have It said boyfriend of Misha Tate He's 4-1 in the UFC. she had an asthmatic attack. Are you doing that arm bar where the arm's in? and then the guillotine goes on over it. He gets scared. She got her back again. Look at her. That means she's back. Never count out the Japanese bulldog.

1:14:16 No, I love Misha Tate. Look at her. Well, let's admire them for their skill, gentlemen. Well, angry, man. I met this girl the other day who said she wants to get Yeah, but let's think about We remember when he fought So crazy. She fought that. But on average, Wanderlei Silva's going against Crow Cop. No doubt. All these true. Beautiful elbow, too. What about that elbow? Nasty elbow. But on average, Wanderlei Silva

1:16:39 big scar that happened in MMA. They use it for injuries. yeah it's painful you're saying a girl like we haven't seen that yet And he has, I mean, he had perfect It's not going to change much. Guys are so I'm saying? It's not going to change much. Think of a girl like Gina Carano, If Gina Carano had a 21-year-old scar, It depends on the judges. Crazy. Really? They might. Two rounds, right? She's a superstar, too. She bet you they give it to Wren. Bet you they give it to Wren. Oh, you're crazy.

1:18:34 If they go a third, the third decides it. And then the third round, the other guy ends up beating his ass and he still loses. You know what I would do? a round when it could have went either way They're going to give it to the time oh Look, it's not my favorite sexy accent, but goddamn Japanese is pretty hot. A chick with an English accent. That's not exotic to you.

1:20:47 I'd do it right now Like how Ed O'Neill got it And she's a Freaking Maybe he's got a dick like Donald Cerrone's arm 155 pounder who throws hard knuckles finger. And he's fighting a fire. It's got gills where the cock flares out in the mushroom head. Vascularity. Come on, Yoshiro Akiyama! Wow, he was a really good fighter, and then he fought Ludwig, and Ludwig kind of picked

1:22:56 There's certain guys when they begin their career and they face a guy where they can't do anything, you and all i could think of is god damn if shawb could work with this guy every day if you could It was the wrong style. Dwayne and kickboxing and fucking, you know, Obviously, coaching's worked out for him with T.J. Dillashaw. His demeanor. He had to go first with him.

1:25:02 And he would talk to us. What do you think about, are you practicing turning sidekicks or wheel kicks? No. We did something. I'm bringing in Side kick They're hitting that oblique kick At Rhonda's camp. Bodied up. He does. Did you see GSP in Captain America? The kid's shredded. I think he's only had a couple of fights at 170. no. Entertainment for sure.

1:27:29 He's a famous singer, and he's a famous Japanese MMA fighter. They do some I'm saying Look at the bottom of his lats, the line. But he looks Look at him That's his girl Singing. He's been teaching. And Dwayne hurt him with like a left hook, I think. From the beginning, he's going to have more power. Oh, he took him down. With beautiful skin. Fuck big ground. How about big gold? You're damn right. Jesus, man. That's not almost. You can take almost out of that statement. He's got gold skin. Fuck big brown.

1:30:12 Well, there's some Asians that cross into that darker realm of skin. He can go to the tanning salon. That's my boyfriend right there. No, he had the underhook. Side control. Randy was saying. As well, bitches. Sexy Akiyama. beautiful. Dudes have Japanese things and it says waterfall. He didn he was getting Brian tattooed on his arm. It says waterfall.

1:32:22 Those judo guys are so goddamn strong. It's a different thing. This is a real legit judoka. He hit it and then he pulled out of it. matter of they're doing it wrong. But it's a side kick But you can fuck a guy up with that too all the ones he throws It landed. It was good. He just didn't extend. And if you, you throw a front kick, front kick is a perfect example, because it's a

1:35:07 side kick. It's just people, they just the potential of it. And then I've shown it to people, and they go, I didn't even know this. Because he'll throw that shit only like once or twice in a fight. They would go up to his tits, And he would throw this front leg sidekick. Way better. As you move in, they'll back kick you. when people would spar him, like when he was in his prime,

1:37:10 That was his real name. trouble oh amir's still throwing that kick he got tagged again it's tough man just amir's pretty Throwing up some shit. I got gold skin. But my point was, when I'm talking about these kicks, You know, his big black guy. faced a guy The problem with it though But those guys were all above-the-waist kickboxers, Badarhari, that motherfucker throws wheel kicks.

1:39:42 But they're both two different distances, and it's two different techniques. It gets out from the back door. But Eddie always equates it to Like oh this shit isn't gonna work There's always a force is a prize opponent to really focus on that and you're gonna be tired away from us Look what Jon Jones is doing fighting in the UFC and Spinning back fists.

1:41:38 We really haven't seen that one. We haven't seen that one. Well, it doesn't work the outside of the foot like that you spin i haven't seen a knockout with that either we haven't I think we saw those are the last new kick I think was to make a big impact in all of MMA That's the newest, hottest kick that people are actually spending time trying to master it.

1:43:22 I didn't think so. And then your boy Travis Brown on Alistair Overeem. His name was Jersey Long. and he had a fucking axe kick bah! Jesus Christ. into the leg. It was a straight something up. What was the greatest in grappling. Anderson wasn't at Shoot the Box anymore. that Hoyler escaped by the skin of his teeth and then got his back and then The guard,

1:46:19 Eddie Bravo, fucking comedian I did a few times he dominated though We heard you've been doing this fight past thing. Nice right hand. Yeah, he's fighting an MMA fight. Every Kung Fu kick that was once laughed at is one by one. I won a Taekwondo tournament actually work You step in and blam! who could teach you teach you that style of kicking dude you would be a you would be fucking

1:48:57 at your opponent. Just launching man this is a weird feeling true that fucking comes at you 60 miles an hour on your head I'm telling you, anybody who doubts me, you just needed to see Pedro Hizzo in his prime. Should we get them out? They're the best pickles of all time. We're in California Pull that back These are jokes. We're married. You guys want me to move to Hawaii right now?

1:51:28 I just said we won't do that. Oh, Miles Drury and Takanori Gomi. Guy was killed on a sailboat that way. And I would have yelled help next to a blue whale That's about. Both of them lit him up. Nate lit him up with strikes then i believe caught him in an arm bar and uh nick caught him with a gogo I mean, it is. You never knows the Mary Jane better than anyone.

1:53:40 But getting punched in the face hard with a right, I don't think we's going to help you with that. high, though. It's kind of interesting. They say they here and there when I smoked are you saying that you're ridiculous that's hilarious hey bro what'd you say about 10 years ago That's how you do comedy. You get high and you go on stage and you come up with new shit.

1:54:52 This Sunday, I'm doing my one hour. I'm saying if I come down to Irvine on Sunday and I see El Gato, I'm going to choke you out this day. It's not just that either. Is this because of the fighter and the kid? though. Yeah, but my field... Oh, now he's in camp. They tell you you gotta fight. I was fucking... You want a pickle? I'm not a fan of these.

1:56:54 They're so fucking crunchy and fresh. I don't have shit here. Yeah, we need to get more snacks here. There's pizza everywhere. You open the door. on this bitch. No, no, no, no. Beef jerky. There's nothing artificial in it. There's 14 grams of protein. And that's how they used to preserve them, I guess. But they still call it sea salt, right? Miles Jury!

1:59:26 With a big win Yeah He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. Very smart fighter. And it just doesn't seem like he's setting things up in any traditional way. Those pickles are insane. after you eat the pickles. He's going to be tough to beat. He won the English tough. What? Look at his movement, man. That was his first big win. You shouldn't be giving this up on the air.

2:02:16 Yeah, 100%. Yep. It was like boom, boom. Remember him? He KO'd him Until Henzo pulled it off. Damn. I'll go train right now, son. No, dude, I got kettlebells here and an archery target. It's fun. It's fun, man. Hey, I thought you were going to make fun of me when we went to your house. Sure. I got some. crazy i don't think that dude is you get into bows and arrows or what not really it's fine hey

2:04:49 That's my first step. They own all these houses. All his family? So they have like this whole area where they're all like, they go grilling together. vegetables together that would be dope when i was a kid dude when i was a kid when i was a kid this fucking goat starts headbutting me and i'm grabbing the goat and i'm freaking out and then And if you do that and you've got chickens

2:07:07 So dirty retire When did Mike Over start DJing? I'm just saying. Three-piece suit, man. We weren't on air. thing of seeing guys just have God, it's a good argument, man. Right, but isn't it true, though, that sometimes you get punched in the face, and you're just getting punched on the cheek. That's what I'm saying. Big Country's really good at that looping right hand and lands it.

2:09:46 In the second round. When I interviewed him in the boom, look how fucking hard he hits, bro. Oh, God. When I interviewed him in the uh boom how fucking hard he hits oh god when i There's Tukshir. Dude. Roy landed three right hands. to be the hardest hitter. You know what I'm saying? How about Verdun? At some point, that crazy durability chin, it could be this fight.

2:12:21 Right. 260. You know what I'm saying? You know what? Houston Alexander. Big Brown loves you. God, he's good. How about when Houston and Kimbo slide? It was weird. And he's familiar in Japan. That's a legit point. shit back and forth i said fuck it let's put our fight purses online. I win. I get all your money. You win. You get all mine. just offer that to Luke Rockhold?

2:15:17 I can't wait for this fight. So you're like, damn, Marcon is not doing well. If you're not in shape in California, when you fly to Florida, your fat ass still ain't Jacksonville? Would you? Yes, that's what I meant. More reps. I get better training. Those pickles got me crunk as shit. Yeah, I would. It's hard, man, if you're fucking not from there, man.

2:17:51 Yeah, but this isn't the NFL. This is Mark Hunt. Man, they look exactly the same. Hunt certainly has more weapons. more power in his one weapon. Mark Hunt's easy to take down. I think Roy's too smart, man. He's a Roy. Just out of the range of shit. I feel like there's got to be a way to... They train that with the glove on. fingertips oven oven mitts right oven mitts finger condoms oven it's obviously not no gloves no gloves

2:20:52 He did. There's that leg kick, man. Three knees. I mean, he'll throw a left to get you thinking about it, but that right hand is the bomb He's slick. His movement, too. He's just worried about that right hand. But right now you're just dealing with Mark Hunt. It's five rounds. Oh! I heard he wants a three-round fight. Batch. off of those punches when he does that.

2:24:02 That's why Ali would wear guys out so well. It's a pretty good leg kick, though. There's a nice right hand. He rolled with the left hook. of a second when you're thinking what is he going to do then he executes something just that extra Yeah. Hunt rolls all fours. Oh. What's that about? He was able to escape. And he's 290 in 510. They said he lost 19 pounds in one day.

2:27:13 He moves good. I disagree. I think you need some of that fat to have some of that cardio. Shit! If you didn't know Oh! Mark Head is a motherfucker, dude. Oh, no. Eddie Bravo turned on you. Oh, no. Right up cut. Look at that. Boom. The referee ruined a beautiful ending. By far the hardest hitter in the division. But he moves so smooth. With cream. Such a beast.

2:30:40 Luizus. I think he's like 38 or 39 or something like that. Oh, that's cute. Very friendly. They didn't want to honor it. Then they give him a second chance, and then, man, on a roll. That's a good question. I know it was a decision. Hey, have you guys seen Josh Barnett and Renato Laranja do a scene from Brokeback Mountain? It's fucking... Who FCs? And then he won four in a row.

2:34:14 Dude, he got submitted by Musashi. Remember when he had Fedor in an armlock But he beat Mirko Krokop That's crazy. Wow. And at that weight, you move and they're like I just think he was like, balance from throwing kicks. Oh Such a fun part What network is it for? It's actually one of the best things I've ever done. Wendy McLennan, who is in Bridesmaids.

2:37:11 It's on YouTube? It's a pretty funny movie. Hey, bro, you live in America? You know the last funny movie that I saw was? Spoiler alert I'll say oh I just finally got around to watching What did you think was coming your way, When I see you talk shit to 120, you go, dummy. And he goes, you got a fucking problem, man? Hey man you got a fucking problem

2:40:00 You fuck You're dumb. So you're constantly... Yeah, what? the fuck up right fucking now or I will knock you the fuck out. Here's my prediction. And then we get on tmz I had a dream. Because he asked me, he goes, is it okay if you share a tent with Brian? It's the craziest, loudest snorer. Bro, I think I had sleep apnea because I wake up. I sleep like a baby.

2:43:29 And I have a boyfriend. That's a bit. Was just looking at him like this The possibilities are endless Ever in my life Dude I was like And the guy had a big back He had a dream like that? No. Never in my life. I gotta fuck this guy again. I'm straight, man. Remember? No. It never stops coming. The fucking, the rivers get choked, leaving, like, there's no water that gets to the farmlands.

2:45:47 Yoshihiro Akiyama you had Brian why are you saying you're an attractive guy. I've never seen you Crazy sick. Ah, ha, ha, ha. I got in his fucking Prius. He kept telling me this for weeks all i heard from Thank you for saying that. And I'm God's favorite, too. That's true, dude. Take that sheet of paper And he fucks you throughout the dream like constantly.

2:48:44 Yes. Sex with the guy felt the same way. they represented it's freezing cold gay as shit Shit. saw how smooth he was meanwhile the only guy in this room who has to actually constantly fight They lose a little bit of confidence and they try to switch things up. It's a good thing for you or a good thing for him? I just wouldn't say shit. Never trained with Edmund, but you did do some training at Jackson's.

2:51:55 Not even close. do you think there was any issue with the fact that ovrium came into the camp no not at all not Yes, rankings don't mean shit One of the reasons I completely disagree because Orlovsky stays, then all of a sudden Overeem moves in. but he didn't know how to fight, Goddamn, she looks good now. Well, that's that Chuck Liddell type thing, you know?

2:54:27 Like you weren't happy about that potential matchup. you think that she should be out forever because of the fact that she did that no when you give her Every girl. You tap out in like a minute or so. Yeah. Cyborg is the perfect nickname for against Ronda, the pretty judo girl. women's MMA, that is probably One countdown, and it's over. I mean, I don't know if it's ever going to take place, but if Cyborg, if you go back

2:56:59 It's rough to watch. That's all Dana looks at. Brian Callen, S-C-H-A-U-B, E-D-D-I-E-B-R-A-V-O, much love everybody, Ejibra, Ejibra, Ejibra, Ejibra, Ejibra, EBI 2 will be