Joe Rogan Experience #20141216 — Fight Companion - Dec. 16, 2014 Transcript

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0:00 Callan, you can sing us. anything that's gonna expand your mind. Keith Jardine. We're trying hard. These fucking people We had Joe on and- You sat there? That's all. we're in eddie bravo might be a little high talk and shit could go off the rails the good part about doing that is that it gets this conversation out there the bad part about a lot of other people see it and i think there's a certain number that every fighter has you know

4:09 you were talking really open and honestly about some of the losses that you had, You're being self-deprecating. It's very funny. But one of the things that you see time and time again about being a fighter is that that from fighting it's one of the best things he ever did because it was he could have made a fucking He's a middleweight. what he's talking about

6:23 I would watch tough because it was entertaining, season seven, You see them come and go one of the elite that make it through? go for it. I look at it as was, what his jiu-jitsu was like, who was trainers were, what his training was, what his jujitsu row in the prelims they're going to cut you generally right but you know how many wins you Let's see you last.

9:10 honest with yourself so that's kind of what i that that's what i why i thought the conversation You only have a certain amount of rock to work with. he would have eaten that thing like candy You know, when Chuck, I mean, he's a very nice strongly believe in this that in the future we're going to have every fighter is going to have like need to be very few guys have the luxury of that very few guys ever get to that and i think that

11:59 Yeah. Because your brain, your neck smacks back. That's right. Just that like thump. fighter and you asked me for advice i'd probably be a lot nicer about how i gave you that advice I would have a real problem. That's possible. guy who's fighting for the lightweight title has a title shot lined up smashing everybody you Now, Gray Maynard is a fucking animal.

15:41 that fight that's the other thing guys go into fight with injuries already like you were talking about um your fight with ben rothwell that you in that fight we were What do you want to do, Brendan? I mean, you guys can keep talking about it. who just got into the ufc whoever it was there's a good chance 80 chance i would say that we'd be I'm going for it.

17:46 That's obvious. But I think you're a tremendous athlete. Yeah. Super good jiu-jitsu guy that had zero stand-up. This is going to take way too long. they get cut. the combinations. you could find. And it's just like Rocky 3. just got to practice you can do anything you want every time every time we've had discussions like Yep. Ben Saunders came down for three weeks, and I ran it.

21:54 that came to me a Ricardo Laborio black belt. Man, Ben Sonners is going to shock the And that's the mindset I believe working together to come up with the best possible jiu-jitsu for MMA possible. i'm like you gotta go and do like some hardcore like go to some like really elite gym and have a And you're in great shape. Because we're just talking at you here.

25:17 the it's tough to listen to you know it's tough to listen when people are like oh you took it great the face yeah yeah you don't think i'm like washed up and all shitty like you really could become Three of them came up to me and gave me a big hug. I said, we're not posting that, man. to hear that i can't believe you stood and took it like a man blah blah blah so i have these people who are in the business reaching out to me now and i have big shoulders

27:33 I talked about on our podcast, like it's like a journey, So I talk about signing a fight. don't because we all know it's real and it's the monster in the room that nobody talks about you um, Yeah, where I'm telling you, Like I had a family member go, I just don't get why you don't do two-week camps. Why do they come up with a two-week camp? He was like, hmm.

30:13 It's whatever. I'm like, if you know him and you don't like me, Anything I talk about, it's one of the weirdest things. This is crazy. They do. you think you have this idea Like, this is a crazy conversation to have. amount that are just crazy and a certain amount that overstep boundaries and a certain amount that are just getting real nervous around you and they they

33:06 And I walked through New York city and I am, I am not, I was with Jimmy Burke and I am not Yeah A punch Actually told people It's a good scam. So he takes his picture with Matt Hughes was mad as choking him in the picture you know and look matt's a fucking So this guy goes and he files this lawsuit because he's got the photo of Matt Hughes choking him.

35:14 So don't choke people in pictures. Make some changes, switch some things up. I've wrote a couple of new segments. opportunity to go hunting for that show meat eater there's only one guy i called because i know that And never in a bad mood Water just rolls off your back. it's also one of the reasons why we're brothers it's like you know what i'm like the same with

38:39 at the end of this shit there's a fucking cliff there's a goddamn cliff and especially as someone yeah but you know what like you could you could rebound from a lot of this shit. There's a fucking cliff. There's a goddamn cliff. And especially as someone, It just drops off Matt Hughes, you talk to him today, he's sharp as a tack. He got knocked out by Pele

39:38 He was one of those guys that said, see ya different people's rocks man I mean, I never met a guy who's more obsessed with taking fighters and turning them into, like, prodigies based on all of the information that he has in his head. and also his obsession. Dwayne won't sugarcoat any. Dwayne will go, and then you do it right. KO'd, he's KO'd guys, he's been submitted.

42:04 Someone could shout you down. If you don't know how to like having a conversation someone could shout you down you There's some guys that could storm out of the gate and they have one technique and they throw it at you and they fucking... fought Stefan Bonner, up against the cage. in that Forrest got KO'd I mean, I'm sure. He was a big dude to cut 205, though.

43:58 Jones walks around 230 all the time. How long was that ago? I was 17% or 15%. My dick. Dean Lister's known. What did you think watching that fight? What a goddamn slobber knocker. Stipe Miocic He has a good size He has a good noggin on I won't shame my head Because of that Yeah Could take that much punishment He looked really big Shredded I've never seen him. I used to be like Mike just see you know what I mean, please stop big

45:52 No one's trying to fight that, dude. it was an arm bar or rear naked choke, How is his knee? He gets super-sprained, isn't he? That's just part of the game. John Fitch is tapping. What people don't know is in the back, the ref says that. And did you see how we beat him? You know how he did it? He's so fucking dangerous. You won't even train for six months.

48:38 Oh, really? It was nasty. I saw him like two weeks after that event, and I was like, damn, man. Just something like that, Brennan. Anybody could do it. The Brendan Schaub comeback. I'm not going to say John Fitch did something wrong. when the guy adjusts to it, that's when he drops. So Bayaris locks his legs over here. So Partonaris continues to twist here

51:25 So what Fitch was doing here was unraveling his feet a little bit, open his feet up trying and he keeps this grip here, Go this way. To this this side here he's actually elevated Yeah, but this is a long time for people that are listening to this as a podcast. Pretty dope, though. was all over his legs. that. And then it just became instinct. And then he became impossible to tap with leg locks. You

54:21 Not only do I not worry about it, but I'm going to attack from there. So I think we probably talked enough about Brendan Schaub and Brendan Schaub's career. See, we're watching what's going on on YouTube. We're going to watch some classic fights, man. This is Fedor versus Noguera. Yes, he was. Okay, we can go through all this That was one of the weirdest things about Fedor, when he would fight.

57:08 She was just like the. I don't remember. Jirio was young looking too. why did you lose weight? This is the thing that was weird about watching fights in Japan. It's a trendy thing now. Look at it. There's so many variables involved in old Fedor that made him a monster. He also had a really good technical approach to MMA, man. He's still retired. And what's interesting is 2004, there was nobody like him.

59:53 They're like showing emotion and showing weakness. Took my shirt off. Like the grim reaper I don't know if he got out. Or being mad at you and raping you. Is that right? Illuminati. You know what was going to drop the bomb on the Illuminati. Bro, come on. ferocious ground and pound What'd they do? Feed him vitamins and milk? Why would they give milk to a baby?

1:01:35 This is it. Why isn't there gay jiu-jitsu academies? Can you imagine? Put out an advertisement. But even in gay jiu-jitsu academy. They probably are. They would love it. They would love it. Can you imagine? to tap you out. You're thinking about not getting tapped out. The good thing about the ring against the cage when you're wrestling there's only so many positions against the cage and

1:03:35 he so good at defending against all these You know, Verdum used to be Crow Cups. system without a guard. Eddie, when you see this, people weren't aware of back then. And we didn't have any jiu-jitsu guys in there that knew how to submit people off their It's really, really greasy. My jiu-jitsu ain't as bad as you think. This is the roughest part of this fight.

1:06:26 You talk about the best chins now, is the guru who could turn your chin around and strengthen your chin and make yourself and turn you into a guy. A guy can make your dick bigger and you give up on fighting because your dick is so big you're just doing porn? Well, you know what's going to be really interesting? the only way you get big Yeah, it was beautiful.

1:08:07 He's on top. Look at this. What if they found out that Regine King brings a chin back? What? Well, there was this guy, Mark Fitch, used to fight in the UFC. Super bowl of fighting. for steroids. Specific, oh, when he fought a guy I agree. oh, he got him Boom. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. He's a rock star. I hear that Putin some later Fedor fights. dropped substantially.

1:11:30 Like, easily could have been Without even cutting weight. His whole team. How about fucking Vitor, bro? That guy was the unsung hero of the Gracies. And it makes me wonder like how hard was he training. He's saying that to the other Gracies, though, right? Fucked him up standing. He's saying what? I don't know if it's emotions or if it's anger, You and Hoyler were before the match, even after the match.

1:14:24 Until you fight someone like Anthony Rumble fucking Johnson. It is Hoist Gracie in his prime. And when you deal with a guy like Rumble Johnson, I hate to keep bringing him up, and he's dealing with this super athlete in Rumble Johnson. How do you explain that? UFC legend of all time. And he's the biggest UFC legend of all time. Really bad. King Moe's a wicked, wicked wrestler, man.

1:16:54 He hit that electric chair again, Eddie. Are you going to take King Moe down with your slippery body? He strategically went out to throw some strikes, shoot, make you sprawl, But I think when it comes to Hodger, he's saying, Hodger's never going to fight for Well, Haja Gracie is one of the best motherfuckers ever. You've got to get your fucking striking together.

1:19:12 whatever, at least you're trying. You're trying to close Who cares about your record? You've got to understand that fighters are constantly in stages of development. So you strive. was much better than Stipe. Is there cheese in your How about Dos Anjos? They're just not adapting to the evolution of the game, right? Nick Diaz fought Carlos Conant, he just threw

1:21:26 you're not striving to be a striker like to the leg. You're telling me You can do it. Look at Diego Brandao. In my opinion, that's the future right there. Like say if you spent a lifetime of just wrestling, I mean, some work needs to be done for sure. Do yoga. And I got crazy with it when we worked out with Dwayne. You do a lot of yoga, Eddie? that you have to learn in

1:24:29 in Lotus, if you can get into that, you can play all positions in grappling. So when they say like someone is only We were at a meeting one time, a TV meeting, Check this out. So he said, you want to see something crazy? You've held on to it. You know, I've seen you kick. one of the things you realize is they're not tense the whole way. fluidity that you get

1:27:10 That's just the way it is. This is going to sound gay as fuck, Brendan. Oh, I know I did. This guy, when you listen to What did Dwayne say? bah, bah, bah, bah. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. He looks 20. Hormones are natural. Mark Coleman had everybody lifting weights. You don't do no Wizards in Siberia, son. Could you imagine if Mark Coleman had a monster fucking guard and a monster fucking rear naked?

1:30:14 Chuck Liddell with no sleeves on his robe. Who looks like a... He has the underhook. No, he wasn't. Don't tell me. Two easy takedowns. Look at this. close look. Perfect timing. That's all. He was so good at that shit. Yeah. Remember when Nogueira was like, fuck that. How big is that dude? Smart guy. Trying to find Fujita. Mark Hunt. Suplex, right? What's her name?

1:33:40 get hit in the face. Gina said, I'm going to do movies. Mirko was fighting somebody else back then. dude. He was young. It sounded like a gun was going off. His hips are about this wide. Yeah, because guys were used to eating that Hizzo had. Randleman's legs are still damaged to this day And weird veins. Yeah, all over his leg. Don't play with me. He knows how to throw those hammers.

1:37:05 because you could slide around underneath I don't know what it He's all fucked up too now, man. The hitman for the UK. Look at this. He was able to hold on to him. That would be sweet. You lazy fuck. that judge, like, you gotta understand Kick to the body. I think he zoomed in a little too big. That's how you fight. Nothing happened. Yeah. I sound like a shotgun

1:40:27 Curing cancer and shit. Was Anderson ever fighting in Pride? Remember that? There's something that happens to these guys when they get really good at takedown defense. Just shut the fuck up. What? What did I say? Just shut the fuck up. Really? Kind of crossover stuff Yeah but this is Vandele as a heavyweight No, that's the flag of Croatia, bro. Vanderlei?

1:43:03 So strong. Totally different. more air in it. This is rough he's just fucking going off on and Cro Cop's looking at him Vanderlei has ever been Usually he fucking He actually did well Yeah look at Oh, he wants to fight. To make the fight better They're giving Croke up a break too Probably like 250, 240, somewhere around there. Not even close. Damn.

1:46:20 I haven't seen this. It's a bar It doesn't look good No, no, no. We're bigger than everybody else. Now he wants a pickle. I have rules. I should have brought donuts. That was fucked up back then, too, man. Here it goes, though. He hooks for days out of Wonderland. Here she comes. You cannot do it. No way. Good shot there. Yeah, you can never give Cro Cop set-up time. You cannot do it.

1:48:34 Good Lord. Oh, shit. Look at the fucking gash on the side of his head where the shin lord. That referee stopped it quick. Oh, my God. That's awful. He looks dead, dude. And he looked like dog shit. Glenn Johnson knocked him out bad. That Mayweather-Pacquiao fight's going to happen, huh? I don't care about the money. five years ago, but it's still really good.

1:50:47 I didn't hear that. Bradley. He's exactly how you would think of a guy who lived with his parents in the basement with a fight back. I mean, he beat Provodnikov. Give the fans the fight they want. Oh, so if you go Dot He's a nice guy Very Genghis Khan Yeah, they're talking about like guy ever huge dick you think so for a little guy what if dick size what if dick size had uh

1:53:08 Me too. 13 inches, Eddie. Roy beat Crow Cop? down tk owed him yeah oh you mean uh roy got him down yeah my bad um i want to see roy versus nogara Yeah. Okay. I think people will go, oh, not that motherfucker again. You need to sleep more. Who? There was a rumor. you haven't. because they followed They didn't know that when they were making it. You'd kill these guys.

1:56:14 He signed a deal with the UFC and then And then we'll evaluate after that. He went out there, won the eight-man tournament. It was terrible. 260 look at the size of yeah that's crazy the size of Bob's out forget about That's what fucked his world up for five years right there. How strong is he in the first minute of a fight? No one can, I mean, that's, he's pile driving people.

1:58:25 Yeah, totally. They said he would be in the He was like, fuck you. Neck is probably all jacked up. I got to beat him off my back. And he's got to do old school Hoist Gracie. Does he even know anybody that big? I mean, that's so weird. Hilarious. Josh was in his corner for this fight I'll never forget watching this fight Look at this switch Dude, he eyes met his ass.

2:01:44 It's your weight and his weight all on your neck. Believe me. Oh, God. He's not fine. Let me shut the fuck up. 380-pound dude slams you on your neck. It's your weight and his weight all on your neck. A lot of your neck problems come from the lower body or hip area. It's not hurts because your ass is tight. I can't hurt anybody's feelings. I go, it's all right, bro, because I'm good with it.

2:02:46 He tried to go with double fingers in your ass. And I was, my back really hurt in college. is going to be weird maybe in the beginning you have a nerve center, you have a nerve center right next to your prostate. Start letting go now. And I go, no, no, no, no. He was from Jordan and Germany. And we were all like this. He's not from America? I would imagine.

2:05:00 You're like, oh, we can't afford a hotel room. as well blow him what's that I was the one he in the butt And Dan goes, so check it out. But you, hold on a second. Told this other guy that the other guy let him finger his ass and blow him. Good, let him blow you. He didn't want, Is he a masseuse or not? Crappy as fuck. He's like, pick a team. What does that mean?

2:08:13 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Seth. Oh, you don't know that story? crackers put the crackers down i was um this is great i just I believe in it. And you're married. There are a lot of reasons. And I go, and they go, hi. I go, how much? dollars guy goes yeah i know here's the problem you got caught up in the sweep we got to take in You went with Simon? I found a funny way to do it.

2:11:44 You know, the cops were cool. Yeah, but you were in jail for two days. It does exist, the next day or something dancing to some tunes. No. They're talking about doing a little drugs to party? They're not talking about dancing to some tunes. She's cute. I was like, and she goes, I'll lose $1,000 tonight It's tough out there. The consequences being you could go

2:14:08 You do. I mean, it depends on what the fuck you're doing. They don't have all this violent crime attached to prostitution. Yeah. Why isn't it legal to fuck someone for money and all my nerve endings are there. A couple digits? and, you know, were having sex with prostitutes. Well, it's just as ridiculous if there's 400 million. And these women, they pretend that they like me and they really don't so

2:17:08 It's a puritanical law. And one of the reasons why prostitution has a stigma attached to it Always have been. You went crazy. They can cure that shit quick No I don't think so There's no way for a long time. What about that guy has weakened itself. You believe that shit? It's had to make so many compromises. Dude, you have to to mutate so many times that it actually has weakened itself.

2:19:15 You have to listen to this Radiolab podcast called Patient Zero. It was the early days of AIDS in America, like in the 1980s. Monkeys? types of monkeys that had two different types of infectious diseases so different types of virus yeah suit two different They've also isolated why, which I thought was fascinating. which is wild. did. not a virologist yeah he doesn't make sense to virologists he doesn't make sense to any of the

2:23:03 That's right. that working on the ground with these things they were like shaking their head going this guy hasn't Well, if Duisburg is wrong, But they predicted one out of four people between the ages of 18 and 35, The media. did die in Africa. Wait. And he said, what you really need is mosquito nets. He was like this, What do you think about this whole Ebola shit

2:25:31 People that are giving, people that are medical people. get american it's very high it's pretty high but 40 percent of the people the people that have all They think you either have a genetic resistance to it. We're also getting our information from mostly health workers on the ground. For example, take the administration. And they usually get found out.

2:27:33 They never get found out. If they say, no, we're not really controlling the media. And also because it's so devastating and it's so contagious. I think you're right not to trust— How many people died in Iraq? I think you're right not to trust- Not many. That's a holocaust right there. scripts since the 50s to make sure that communism doesn't infect movies yeah the

2:30:30 A lot of these guys, these producer assholes And a lot of those things, the intelligence community didn't want exposed. So by saying the CIA had one problem with one film discrediting CIA influence on Hollywood is kind of silly. called Light, Camera, Covert Action, Yes. Look, Congress, we we got to outlaw But I don't know what the reason. You think they pulled out?

2:33:11 They got in criticizing the CIA, They will knock on your fucking door and talk to you. Harry Anslinger was the guy who brought in the government to inspect the scripts to make and the CIA 80 men go, editorial board, I don't know themselves they've been consulted sure national security yeah secrets you can't want to make sure So there is, without a doubt, some discussion.

2:35:29 CIA. The CIA's been, you know what the dumbest presidents, only second the Nazis through Union Bank. The CIA is just the whipping boy. How's it feel, brother? Meanwhile, the CIA is bringing in coke by the military. He's going to get a jujitsu. That sounds like Brody Stevens doing comedy. Yes, it was. Selling drugs. That's where it gets real weird. They do whatever.

2:38:52 i'm just saying that the cia is such a big bureaucracy so you need their tax reports and Congress. They get it all Well, it's a waste of time. So are all the presidents. Oliver North has never said anything about drugs. It's like OJ didn't go to jail for murdering Nicole, That's still a theory. and they got caught. in prison for that shit. agent... That's true.

2:41:58 For years was the one guy in those documentaries about the JFK conspiracy theory. Have you ever seen a video of the deathbed confessions? But have you seen it? I'm going to say some crazy shit on my deathbed. I'm with you, Eddie. Eddie, let me ask you a question. I don't believe anything. And you'll have a guy you're talking about who admits all these things, and there's video on it.

2:43:41 But they do go to countries. is the oldest magazine ever. and you have the mainstream media, Oh, yes. York Times you want to think that you want to think that but what really I think the reality is that major networks are full of shit. paid by somebody else? Do you ever read the New York Times? Have you ever read the New York Times I'm getting fed an agenda.

2:46:40 I don't believe. journalists confession and we're talking about the cia's admitted role in hollywood you tend to like you times ten. But he says that, Yeah. Eddie, the only thing that I think is that sometimes when we, and we all do this – when we decide that this is the enemy, right? Money in politics and the way, basically, Yeah. And they didn't give a shit about the real issues that face you, me, and the average person on the mainstream.

2:49:55 earnest and a lot of great journalists do a great job trying to expose what the real enemy is and They don't want to know. The whistleblower is in jail. Yeah. He gets so worked up over conspiracy theories. We don't believe him. Hey, listen, before we watch which is just interviews with him talking about what really happened in JFK's assassination. Can't.

2:52:11 All right. affected the assassination, everything. invasion of the Bay of Pigs. CIA, Alan Dulles, together to kill Fidel Castro, and was really close to was because JFK died, Listen. you look at, it was Cord Meyer. Why wouldn't you play two minutes? But still, if he's going to learn, he's got to learn. You're a smart guy. And this guy is telling you how JFK went the fuck down.

2:55:52 He goes, I wasn't involved in it, Yes. I'm going to do that. You don't want to believe it. The news can't be bought in control. End of the day, Callen's wrong. Barry Seals, without a doubt, flew drugs Yes, without a doubt. That's like you see in video of Joe Rogan sucking dick and not believing he's gay. It's a waste of fucking time and disappointed.

2:58:21 turned on me. Look at these photos. CIA. I know we don't have time. For sure? I'm disgusted and ashamed with this goddamn. Use the code word Rogan. Jacked up. You want to hear more on conspiracy theories slash jujitsu. again beating let's do this again And so was Fedor and Noguera. This is not real. No, for real, though. Seriously. Control this podcast.