Joe Rogan Experience #2015 — Zach Bryan Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Sorry. We were just talking about where they just decide, and Budweiser It's so overblown. self-censoring but i think it's important to speak your mind. I think it's getting better. i'm not sure about that i uh have a feeling you've been here before no i uh i saw your podcast like I love my job. No, no, no. I'm not going to ruin it.

3:07 Really? And I'm like... That one freaked me out And I was like why would you do that? Yeah, check this video out. What the fuck did I send it to? This is it, yeah. This is what I hear at night. I love it. Your mind starts to wander to the new colleague on your team. And your boss knowing. Where is this from? you've been secretly working with him everywhere you walk i remember when i was i guess it was like i want to say it was like 99 2000 was

8:33 Thinking about it now, like what's freaked me out the most they were like, well, how are you going to track? or if I'm, even your best friends in the entire world're all at. And it's scary as shit. Why do I want you to know that I'm at my house? Or if I'm... It's six years. My kids use that constantly. After 25, you can kind of say it occasionally.

9:47 It depends on who you are. I mean, you're just over being 10 south I've been here from the beginning and I'm like Wow really the very And I'd get like five or six likes. cool neat and then my life just kept going up and up and up and i was like But I was getting calls from people. gonna my old man was in the navy for 25 years he was a master chief my mom was in the navy

12:36 and people, like, coming to get me in diners and being like, I Not really. people talking to me about writing i'm like man you suck dude please please don't i don't want to It resonates with people so much. like people who are too emotional. that don't carry their own weight. they think the universe is out to get them. this could be so much worse. was going to do it, my brother was going to do it.

16:20 Well, people do what they have to do in order to make their life better. So they find dumb shit to complain about that means nothing. sorry I'm so sorry Wrong paragraph. to be happy and content, A feat? That's one of those things I've only read. Once you know, That's sick. unfortunate that's what i've dealt with a lot lately in my life and like the touring life and

19:59 and it's interesting to see like some people as time has gone on they've dealt with it less and And that really, every time I feel however, I'm like stressed out, I'll just read that. And I've lost that along the way of being a musician. It works better with everything. But fucking lazy. Right. And that's when I started like addressing, Yeah. and then you feel

22:48 you go down and you start drinking with your friends and things it's when it gets out of hand Oh, definitely. Every time. And like last year, we were drinking a lot of whiskey. so many calories right for like 18 hours I gotta eat something man it's crazy there's stages of guys everything, and you don't even mean to do it, but you're like, man. At the end of the night, you're like, I gotta eat something, man.

24:17 You even saying tequila makes me want to just gag, man. It doesn't fuck me up as much as other ones. I tried them once, and it made me feel worse. Really? to throw any companies under the bus but I wonder like what they put in it. There's always those IV companies at the festivals and things. You could. You're getting vitamin D and B and a lot of take a lot of high dose vitamin c it's good for

26:38 and then when I when I finally had freedom I kind of overdid it do you ever think about taking like That's what's hard. camaraderie we've been doing better this year on the road but if you like have something like that force you to do it. Like you hold each other I play a lot though. And then there's tournament pool that you play on a tight-pocketed table.

28:19 Me too. always try to get me to play it's a super addictive game that's the only reason why Oh yeah, golf. at that point in bars maybe that's why I think Hustle up, man. it's okay scary dude i was in vegas with dana white taylor lewin who else was gambling will We're all having a good time. Taylor's down $120,000 in the first five minutes. People will just gamble on anything, which is cool.

32:07 buddies are like smoking cigarettes and like with those fucking sticks on the lottery machines or He had a casino come to him. That's sickness. I guess the last year of my life has made me like that. Yes. You know what I'm saying? It's either one way or the other. fraud you piece of shit i know who you really really are Oh, yeah, well being from my being from like individually it freaks me out

34:33 of it happening to them so people know it's a thing that people can gang up on people and they're The most neurotic people are also like oddly and we were walking home And I was walking home with like eight other guys That's from how we evolved. There's people like family and very close friends. And then there's like a tier above that. Like people. It's like there's tiers of people. There's people like family and very close friends.

36:25 But you know, you don't know me personally i don't know 150 people yeah off the top of my head what is being in small tribes to larger communities, agricultural communities, cities, millions of people, countries, and now the whole world. so fucking scared, man. Not scared of anything in particular. I'm just not scared of the world Right, right. and I just sat in the grass, sat in a field like I used to when I was a kid.

38:24 I'm like, he's right right man. Duncan's a genius They're putting in work, those furries. make them put on clown costumes. I thought you were working out in it. Yeah, I have a range. Yeah, I mean, forget about bow bow hunting But just archery But you don't man sometimes man i'm like halfway through my set, and the third baseman said, why do you play so hard you're already Joe DiMaggio

41:10 So religiously, because it's kind of a paradox, man, because you write the music or you write a skit, and you care about it so much. That's why I'm doing this, when they know the lyrics? along yeah and it scares me a little bit because i fear that like what if there's like some like taken in that experience. That's what it is. like you ever been to the majestic you know in detroit majestic yeah and uh the venues like in

43:25 like you read this shit in books or whatever when i was in greece uh last week i got to see these dudes are 60 years old And I see these older guys doing it. I mean, every day that guy works out. what I do at 27 he's not like that's not easy screens, this huge Sometimes I wonder if they ever think about it. That's what freaks me out. Maybe. Yeah. You're on stage for your songwriting and your voice

46:53 Like, there's a certain amount of sugar that you can take in food but yeah like people in the car with me like what the fuck are we listening to and i'm right Hold on a second. You got it, Jamie? Listen to this Fuck yeah You hear shit like this all the time. Like in the 60s and 70s. This guy's a star. I'm gonna start walking out to that. it might have a brand new life,

50:26 this he said that uh one of those guys painted his entire life he would paint in like coffee His real name was Gil Hamilton. His version, I'm Alive Thunder, 68. But if he wouldn't have sang it like that, man. I used to hear covers and be like, Some of the best songs of like ever were covers. Dave Matthews. people who you don't think would write something that did write it or someone who yeah sounded so great covering a song that you think they wrote it and then you go to it

53:48 We have Mae West's couch. Who's Mitzi? So the show was called Sex. officers from the New York It's great to imagine. Taylor Swift's a boss lady. Yeah. That was what they arrested her for. Whoa, man. It was all, everyone just was so, they found coffee cans filled with money that was stuffed away in the walls. Yeah, you would think people would want to go watch it. Get their mind off being so depressed, man.

57:11 I know, right? And I'm like, how much shit did people have to go through, man? your coffee taste you know like in the morning for us it's like these people would wake up and like have to fucking be be just in the great depression and like lift their plate up and yeah He obviously succeeded at one point, right? No, they wrote a biography of him. uh I love it.

59:46 don't think they don't have the thing where you're like you're like struggling away and your family tools and he can physically people people who work on lines and stuff like the power lines is that my uncles did that growing up They flew into these power lines. Dude, you ever seen that guy who does it like in Montana? He's hanging off a helicopter Just like messing with wires

1:01:50 Because my uncles do it It's crazy He's gonna climb in that? I don't know if this is right, man. So you don't get shocked That's why those Empire State Building guys are so crazy Want me to send it to you? It was last seen knocking on window outside. He climbed out. I don't want to be disrespectful to a man. Yeah, I can't do it either. Don't show me this, dude.

1:03:50 of his stuff and the jimmy uh jimmy chin i follow him on instagram he's like always not to take away And I think that's beautiful. It's sad that his life, but. And he was like the alpinist. Yeah. Look at There's certain people but like a simpler climb, and that's when he passed away, They couldn't retrieve his body. It was crazy. base of the route, leading to speculation that the duo was struck by a falling rock,

1:06:56 Though the bodies were never You know, expecting people to know what you mean. The worst kind of person. Yeah. Yes. That camera's like a typewriter. I can't believe it. Hard times create hard men. bro and this is in the 30s man imagine how determined men had to be bro or women like two They knew what they were doing was important. How many take this? What do you think? How many people died during the construction of the Empire State Building? They knew what they were doing was important.

1:09:32 No, no, no. I'm going to say 84. In the 30s, you would think they all fell off of there. Because if they talked about it, I bet, I bet if they talked about it, like people would I'm just saying those people who are building the Empire State Building Oh, God. What a beacon, man, for these fucking... Someone jumped from the 86th floor and didn't die.

1:11:33 Have you ever been to the— that like a hundred plus pound fallen out of planes and survived. Like Skyjumper. three foot ledge and landed on 85 See? both my collarbones. mm-hmm a man I thought I was so tough they were like we were young there was And it was crazy. My sophomore year in high school, man, I had like two casts. It was crazy. This is cool.

1:14:37 Once they get injured, Guess at a younger age being okay Yeah. climber i forget his name but he basically just like slept in sleeping bags and slept on people's That's crazy. Created his own culture. America than anyone that's ever lived. As kids, we were together all the time. That's who Fred is. It's a really good documentary. Six years ago? Yeah.

1:18:53 Not if you're that guy. It's just not the case. guess you're probably taking in too many opinions of course man you know you should probably have Because I feel like the world's so different now from when the whole Nashville scene was back then. I've been surprised by it lately because I've been going to the lake and stuff. that's crazy about like writing music and stuff like that because the first records and stuff

1:21:54 all the rate oh man can't can't And maybe they don't resonate with you, but they resonate with enough people that they become real successful. When back in the day they do sometimes. No, but they also, also like getting way too deep. You're not, you know, you're just happy that they're there. busting their ass fucking trying to hit every single note right right which is a lot of beautiful

1:24:36 with people, right? And I'm like, what'd you do? How are they doing it you know yeah, because when I'm performing I like I'm I going crazy in my head I don't know if Budweiser is bad for your memory, but I don't think it's good. them all the time yeah he makes it a huge deal when he does too he makes a big deal of it he You vary in like how well you can talk.

1:26:56 Yeah. And you do it you do you fucking idiot? I'm sure and every time I get off stage And at the end of it, we ended at Railbird in Kentucky. they keep you from freaking out like super bad stage fright and i like but then as soon as i'm on stage i'm like oh this is sick Yeah, it puts you on edge. Every single time you can keep that I know I know and it's been beautiful to see that over the last three years

1:29:40 And then you have to readjust constantly to this dealing with that new way of life readjust this I was like in Africa and fucking Bahrain and stuff. Like I said about my dad, he was in the Navy for like 25 years. No. be in it I want to experience that whole like Empire State Building thing where and um i like end up at boot camp which is crazy and i was terrified and then i realized it was all

1:32:36 and so my buddies were all aos which in the navy they're all fucking made fun of because they're and I would call my mom like every day she would ask me how far I ran how far I swam how how many I don't really want to pursue that. So I bitched out for sure. And I wish I wouldn't have sometimes, And it was sick, man. dearm the bombs that are on the planes that

1:35:07 And I was a sand sailor for sure. So I'd go into work and be, dude, I was a fucking kiss ass like in the navy everyone hated me because i was like let's do it let's go to war man let's go and we were just doing simple shit like eating dinner Just being in the Navy in general. God damn it. And then I was in Africa for like, dude, I've been in Africa for like a year of my life.

1:36:38 The horn. to breakfast workout go do your job workout that's what it looks like there no way a little shittier where we were they were scared that I would show up to work and just be like And I was like, I'd rather not. day i would go into work and think like oh this is my last day in the navy cool for eight months It's never, like, I think, don't quote me, but like Elvis Presley was the last guy who

1:39:13 that but it's never happened like some joe shit the ragman ao like me and that's when i knew it I thought when I called my dad, he'd be disappointed. And then we went, like, I got out of it. Like, my best friends in Washington when I was in the Navy, And every time I'd finish a song, I'm talking way too much. And people blame me a lot for this shit.

1:41:41 There's a phrase that I've heard that I've repeated way too much but i'm gonna say it one more time um this i forget who who said this but we'll we'll look it up all criticism Wow. Brilliant. And I get that, but As a man, I was like, okay, I'm going to fix this problem, man. Theo was on the video and stuff for it. confidants, those are the ones you need to be able to have a conversation with about that kind of

1:44:35 people that that feeling is magnified it feels way worse but their feelings are valid though too It could be that. i was saying earlier with those small venues those medium venues and things like that so nobody would I'm saying that that's one thing in this life that I know that I've earned because I've written so many things. Do you store them? Super valuable.

1:46:51 with like every left it I was terrified. Maybe some kid... paper for sure are you when you write your comedy are you i write on the computer i don't you think So if I have a thought, if I'm sitting there and I'm writing, and I can type be hindered by time so if I have a thought a P-O I know a lot of comedians, like my friend Mark Norman. Yeah, not holding on to the idea.

1:49:36 I've been pointing and I don't want to be I mean not you know poke typing And I put them in another file. Never remember. I'm different than a lot of people. to think and you have to hang out with your friends a big one is hanging out with our friends I'm like, please write that down. I remember being a kid. And not that he's getting old or anything.

1:51:23 It was huge. I'm like, ew. People want a lot from you as well as me as well as whoever. to be playing the songs you've written in the past but you also want to be writing the songs you have But is he funny because he's relatable? He's hilarious. And a legend amongst comedians, Well, it's a nonexistent fear. Bro, every day. That's why I do all that Gotta go.

1:54:22 That's another thing about me and you i guess but like you gotta And then like two years later, I revisit it. That's what writing songs is like too Because you write three lines I don't want to say huge It's funny. he's the fucking best dude all those guys are like i said i know like three chords and shit and Sturgill's writing songs about like too. I love that dude to death. I'm so curious

1:57:00 It was amazing. We smoke a lot of pot. Every day in the Navy. From a fucking corner stop. fucked and i called my sister my dog's running around the apartment i'm taking my shirt off bro but I don't really like and shit I'm gonna fucking Don't they do that shit with like Klonopin or something? I think there are some people that have psychological problems and they shouldn't do anything that perturbs their normal state of consciousness.

1:59:44 got a funny story to tell you but i have that fear in me that's like or like if you were to do something like that, I have that, I have that, I got a funny story to tell you, Like we've all heard about, That's not right. Sid Barrett, right. He said that he took a lot of acid one time Wasn't he the guy that was also tied up with Manson? And he made him do acid?

2:01:33 to dare. So Dennis Wilson was like over the place with LSD. They had a thing called Operation Midnight Climax where they would go to a brothel and they would have 3D or see-through mirrors so they could see through and watch the Johns. logical it seems like it would be an episode of Black Mirror where the the Me and Danny talk about it all the time.

2:03:29 Against it or for it to happen? and you start making money doing that that fucking train is on the tracks baby and there's no breaks I don't know. You see those videos. That's my friend Whitney Cummings, and that's her robot. No, she puts him in the robot's face. I think we're only, what we're learning from like chat GPT is that just from scouring the internet, you could have a program that's so powerful that it could answer

2:06:32 to this AI bot and it scares the And I think that'll always reign supreme. Yeah. Imagine if it did jazz better than the jazz musicians and everybody got mad. That'd be crazy. Oh about music either but bach when isn't AI then? Isn't that a program? But what's artificial intelligence, right? That's why AI is fucking scary. I'm with him, man. They can steal your likeness and they create?

2:09:45 They keep saying that. Got to get one of them, man. What's a player piano? Is that what it's called? we have no room in here because I think human beings that we're already a cyborg A lot of people do. Agreed. Your phone use? It's addictive. that like my fucking crazy tweets are the only thing that people know me by and i'm like man i fuck Elon does it. I have that stuff.

2:12:33 Yeah, but I don't want to engage with anybody. It's people getting into conflicts on Twitter twitter and i think that's ridiculous i think it's the worst way to communicate it bothers me a lot I'm not. But it is interesting to read all these different people's opinions and thoughts. Do you know that's a big one that's going around the internet now?

2:14:01 Let's go. Twitter thread I was reading where they were talking about and you're walking through. to make people stupider i should worry It was like a troll? uh the ticket master stuff and we made it a big deal uh my managers they came to me like hey man You're reading all these horrible takes and like if you like scroll down, stuff about ukraine war like these right like uh anytime there's an abortion debate, you will read these comments.

2:17:18 I'm like, oh, this isn't even a person. It was psychotic. and that's what that person, the secretary of health, just became regular women. yes it's it's strange so because it's illegal the way they get around that is some of these men And that's what, like a lot of this stuff that came out about the whole like transgender thing with me, I don't care what anyone is doing.

2:20:53 That's how all people should be looked at. tribe for the most part well i think a large number of them than the tribe that's into following and they talked about everything from a gay perspective. the problem is people take it Bud Light so long and it's such a great beer this bar owner buying a Bud Light you suck number is like what is uh i've been checking the stock every day but i guess it's more than 20

2:24:04 Bud Light sales down by find out what the market cap loss was. $27 billion. It says it's $6 billion. or something, a gay bar or something That was a crazy one Yeah. too she's awesome exactly and you would defend her to the bits right so this is like some just really scared man that's so shitty Or something along those lines. What do you think changed things?

2:27:40 It made access to information better. Do you think people are better for it or worse for it Or do you think people are less talented for it because millions and millions of people are getting famous? every other generation with every other kind of art form and even most sports, the generations They're gonna rise. They're always going to be here. There's always gonna be exceptional human beings

2:30:06 so much greatness and so much. And now we're all just inspired by each other. Waking up angry. It's just a super unhealthy way to interact. happens because these guys aren't paying attention distracted they're not they're not like um yeah Like that Empire State Building spirit that made things like so fucking legendary and like the pictures that you see of those guys climbing on the buildings. Well, that's what the propaganda that we always get

2:33:04 That's like the grand conspiracy. Whoa. I know now, man. Okay, China to ban sissy boy That's crazy. How about the face ID system? Like what are we looking at? where they were talking about with the ears in that cartoon, weren't looking at their phones and they weren't looking somewhere else. And then this headgear they had on, That's why I believe in the American...

2:36:58 And you're hearing this from people all the time. or one of the different color lights. Look at this facial recognition. but but it definitely is enforcing uh concentration so is the if the results are better like right if because more people will be forced to be disciplined. Right. I would not be into that. It's a new thing, like to be able to podcast

2:39:49 But the most recent versions of it, you can't have that unless you have freedom of expression. posted. Interesting. And it's weird that this by Big Brother and that we give into it because we want a little bit of comfort, Always. That thing on your fucking iPhone can track you, and you can decide to let your friends track you, It's all weird, but so is this artificial intelligence thing

2:41:55 And it's very likely they're going to be older than us. got aliens in the back bro he definitely didn't say it like that but he um he said that there um Virginia case? That long ago. Was there evidence? Were there videos and things like that? a soldier who carried this alien being, Yeah. Why was he weeping? There's an actual statue of it that we have in the studio or in the comedy club.

2:45:01 What's he describing that stick for? And that's all been documented by James Fox, too, I wonder why. What is it? A sensitive compartmentalized information facility. Why would it not feel true? If it's been around for that long, why is it just now? story this is a crazy story you know so that that was on the front page of the Roswell Daily Record. RAAF captures flying saucer on ranch in Roswell region.

2:48:09 And so they had this press conference where they posed with these pieces of aluminum foil and like very clear weather balloon. And they talk about biological entities that were in the crash that they transported to this funeral home. and then it becomes like a tourist trap. that you think, like, when you used to watch about aliens out in the middle of nowhere

2:49:56 You just probably can't see them. It might be more complicated than we're thinking. but maybe there's an opening and maybe they have access to us. Maybe they can create these and maybe they read minds and maybe these things are just insanely advanced and it's their job to help usher in other civilizations into the next stage of existence, which would be an existence without war and violence.

2:51:54 The whole thing might be conscious. Yeah, it's ruined it for a lot of people. Universes and the universe creates new things and these things become more and more advanced and everything continues to always advance How did you get to that perspective if you're from, like, Boston and things like that? it was also a good lesson that like there's people like that in the world because i never met anybody

2:54:44 Oh, yeah yeah she hit people of these uh priests they like to drink which is insane they like to get fucked up this this priest He was just going through the motions. Communion wine, baby. Did you see that Mark Wahlberg movie? Father Stew. I was in Chicago. and it's kind of the rougher side of Chicago but like being a kid I was naive to that so I didn't

2:57:50 on the way there I had no idea where I was going I didn't even remember where this park was And uh, she'd written me letters while I was in the Navy, and I'm calling my old youth pastors. this has got to mean something. reasons why i believe in god because that was crazy like i was driving out there and i had no and I remembered stepping in the same places.

3:00:25 like placeholder memories. That's, like, the nostalgia of all that shit is nuts, man. it last night man i was in this dude i mean i was in this fucking kiddie pool in this yard and i was Until you're there again. and they're all grown up, and you're like, what the fuck? This is wild. more and more other people are becoming adult human beings. is having songs

3:02:55 sometimes I'm like Specific ones, Yeah. That's crazy. and they really are these super sophisticated creatures that have been here from the beginning Sure, really yeah all the time. Is it is it added just like purely Isn't that what meditating is? because we don't like it. Who said that? Like that's why I get freaked out by conversations like this That's a Chinese curse.

3:05:39 That's insane. It was awesome. It was a good time.