Joe Rogan Experience #20150222 — Fight Companion - February 22, 2015 Transcript

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0:00 Hey, none of that. Come on. Brian Callen is here, ladies and gentlemen. That's what they called him. And I'm sitting there. Here's your bra Never says, Nací en Los Angeles, I've said that a million times. You're a muscular Thai man. Or the late 70s? He's a cutie And Santiago Yeah Everyone Pause your TV and maybe count to 10. And I'm going to tell you exactly when I see five minutes on the best way. Pause your TV and like maybe count to 10.

3:20 Oh. 500. Oh, Strickland with a nice uppercut. And you go, oh, fuck. Big left hook by Ponzinibo. Because I feel like in boxing you look No, you're saying most people don't know. Oh, yeah. It was just, did you go to the, He's a beast, right? Kajikistan, but Why are you wearing a scarf, by the way? It's a cashmere. I mean. He could be anything American.

6:30 Allez! Yeah, I love that guy. Why not? It's like Roberto fucking Duran over here. Yeah. Hey, fuck. No, he's not. Andre Ward, 168, Golovkin, 160. Kovalev, 175. I should probably say that on the podcast because a bunch of people You could trust Joe. You used the word swallowed. No, but you're a fan. Outside of, like, hardcore MMA fans, everybody knows who Floyd Mayweather is. world and very few people know who he is. Outside of hardcore MMA fans,

9:18 Beautiful, little cutie, little handsome fellow. But he's light years ahead of them. He can't touch them. just are different white cyberians i don't want to say tougher they're tougher they just are The country's flat Yeah, along the border, yes. Russians? Yeah, he's Caucasian. Right? body it's ridiculous just he's hitting people so fucking hard but america doesn't care america

12:15 Exactly. Remember Jerry Cooney? But let me ask you, is Jermaine Taylor, is that his name? not Jermaine Taylor. Deontay Wilder. The thing about Klitschko You said it like Joey. these are not the same white people It's not a fight. In the fight. So would I. We had a man killing the game some people just look sexier with bangs and some people don't yeah, I never have

15:25 That's where we're going. Northern California literally has a pig infestation. Ripping the lawn Can you imagine? Like a real issue? Oh yeah, it's a pig problem. What? That is weird. I agree with Daniel. Can you imagine? Like a real issue? Our screen door. When William Randolph Hearst had that Hearst Castle up in Northern California, out in the wild and then they become a totally different kind of pig but there's so many of them

17:33 I killed one the first day we went. there's very many restrictions they use it from a helicopter in texas in texas they have these shows and just gunning down This big problem, I haven't seen one. for using the name marijuana. William Randolph Hearst was a gangster. They made shit up. Some people were a crazy time. I feel like weed's just starting to get a good rap, right?

20:08 Yeah, that's how I felt. until I started I don't, One thing about the marijuana is the paranoia that it gives you about if you're doing the wrong shit. that paranoia at bay. That's why it's so easy Are you always high when you're on stage? 999% of time that'd be yes no I do You're laughing at your own shit. I mean, it came out of your mouth, but that's like-

22:10 Through the plant. Yeah. I wouldn't suggest you smoke any weed. you're just going to go do jujitsu and you're just going to have fun, then you smoke weed Because I love to eat. that's good genetics it's good genetics but I also work out I work out man you You probably like put in some extra sessions just to lean up No carbs at all. Yeah. If you could do that, under 30 carbs a day,

25:26 And I'd go, here's my deck. I'm trying. And he would take the bread and he would take the bread, but I was lean and I was single. Starved yourself for chips. Monday through Saturday, somehow I'd say, fuck it. Like when the sun goes down, I would just get too crazy. In the win. How you doing bro bringing in like uh yeah joe frzier still alive. He died right?

29:02 happening my mother was with me. My mother literally said, Expert on physiology. So it pumps lots of blood to his body where were you in town no i'm just super passionate We have a timeshare in Tahoe He's a bad motherfucker, dude. He's mounted the guys on top of Uriah and he's holding him there for the whole round career. A lot of people didn't even talk about that fight.

31:47 Got out of it and gave him a beat. It's like by decision, right? He said, I think I'm a smidgen off. Why is he going to 45? I think it's smart. Properties. I remember when he broke both his And this is after the first fight where Mike Brown caught him. get in their guard, holding them, He's a smart dude, man. He did Abu Dhabi 2005. because he was on top.

35:02 seen that where he took never seen that kind of effortless It's like they've been doing it since they were in high school. Really? He's getting his heart back Devastating. Is that to me? Alcantara on his back. Very little flexibility. Come on, son. and do the research and it was just in their face that it worked and everyone's doing it, they. If it worked for sure and they saw it and they didn't have to search for it and do the research

37:12 Let's just keep going. That's what they're feeling. When you're down there panicking, especially in the first round, that's your go-to. Let's see if he's texting me. He's a good dude, too. you were asking me about them I never as they're huge Up until then, it wasn't part of your training sessions if you were an MMA fighter. Is the takedowns and the the worry

39:32 No, never. They'll lean back and light on their feet. He's teached Look at the grease, slips right off. from almost like a horse stance. So it's more available in MMA because of the way people stand. yeah that guy watch that guy wouldn't when people throw kicks at him and just or you don't have to worry about takedowns you change your stance you change your stance and

42:14 And it's No. He calls it like a heavyweight title, but it's not really was a guy he just machine gun. There's a high-level kick I wonder what Vitor does if he loses to Weidman. Oh, shit. They're not going to stop you. What the fuck were you just saying? whoa, this dude is taking a beating, man. Rolling for a knee bar. Is that what it's called? No, it's a position that existed as long as catch wrestling and all that shit existed.

45:18 than even pacquiao mayweather is i've been talking to callen about his Taekwondo days for years now. His wife has proof, I guess. That's not to be proud of. Really taekwondo, though. How long did you train? All through college. 1987. I don't know where you went, but you're a lot faster when you get it. you know actually hitting each other but you know what man it's like a lot of you what you pick up

47:36 They're throwing jumping wheel kicks. that after a year well no that's what we started with and then my dad forced me to go for by the too but accidentally friends would knock friends out i've seen it happen many times. Me too. When I passed the test for my first green stripe on my white belt in karate, I'm gonna go to... You think about it. because you guys are in Taekwondo,

49:39 Fenway Park to see a baseball game. As hard as he hits? You're like Babe Ruth. That's it. That's fucking hilarious. So I'd practice obsessively. i i get to uh the top of the stairs as we're walking up i'm hearing like these chains People say my spinning back kick's really good. he was just just fucking this bag up this hundred pound bag was flying through the air and bending

53:18 and this 200-pound bag that was like as big around as Joey Diaz. you're not gonna get picked on so it's like all right well what can he do let's put this I mean, you can't get a better time. you see a black belt was actually doing real black belt shit that you expect a black belt to do. Because you can have a lot of money. But then once, and I played Little League or Junior All-American football.

56:11 Everyone wants to go to the NFL. I was the assistant wrestling coach and this He was 300 pounds in high school. Right. He's 300 Oh, that's right. He's responsible for two of the most stomach-churning submissions Yeah, he did that crazy Americana from Full Guard kind of thingy. After that, they were fucking around with it. man he's he don't know what he's doing now this is real

59:25 A wizard, huh? But he's bigger than Javi, right, by quite a bit. and Gary Tonin cuts down to 70 for some fights, So good. Have you ever seen that? He got his back. I forget now. He takes him down, gets his back, and chokes him out with like a second laugh. look at his dad you've seen the movie choke where his dad works on that stuff yeah you should learn

1:02:08 Your dad's not Helson. I'm just saying, what if you were- All year. I bet you say it every time on your own podcast. I'm pretty sure that that's the only time I've ever said it He's in Montana. He's wearing cashmere. it's clay it's literally the bottom of an ancient sea it's the great western inland sea they have If the shit goes down, you know, guys that know how to hunt,

1:04:59 you have a captive audience and me yes i bring you along because I know he's always on. Plus, we can talk. Literally, I go there and I go like this. A hunting show? I am that guy. It's a hunting show on the Sportsman's Channel. You love meat, man. No, no, no. That's rare. You don't have to camp. Will you go to a jungle and hunt like leopards? Hey, listen, you've got to hear this because he actually

1:07:39 Not just bug spray. A sulfur So every house there is raised they will come up those posts, No, in Africa as well. Here's a crazy statistic about ants. What was very interesting is that the diac who I was with, to develop resistance to bugs, You know, Rinella just got back from Bolivia Like a big-ass monkey? They're not immune to that shit. Yeah, got pulled into deep water.

1:10:25 Kabilov? But Martins is high-level Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, good kickboxer. He's a good fighter. about anything. You gotta have a good guard with that motherfucker. Long layoff and knee surgery. Interesting to see how big he gets up. I'm getting him off the fence. Look at that. Oh. That was a high-level takedown. Power shots. Brazilians have great skin. There, I said it.

1:13:03 Listen, if Yellowstone blows, we might all be living in Brazil in five years. It's no bullshit. caldera volcano, which is a like the 2000s like when when they started looking at the area with Well, when's the last time it went off? go to Yellowstone, almost Thanks for coming. Well, Australia would be a good option. Australians are so friendly. We got a chair for him.

1:15:54 you, brother. Flying over from another Everybody knows about it. From fire. You're dying by lava. And you can get on your boogie board and... Or jack the boat. Rotten meat everywhere. Not the people on the beach. No. Remember Escape from L.A.? It's one of those things where when it does blow, it's going to kill a major chunk of the population of the world.

1:18:03 They think there's one of the... Dude, he's throwing fucking heat. It's called cutting the corner. Next weekend, there's a lot of hands-on touching. Those are the conspiracy theorists of geology. mount vesuvius well it's they've killed a lot of people the alex jones of volcanoes can you imagine Over the course of the entire... And whether or not we've been hit by an asteroid already.

1:20:31 So the one in Indonesia is the one I think that they believe killed so many fucking people We're talking so much shit, we missed that. if you live in America and it happens, about 13 million. And then, yeah, it's just different because you guys can't stand and trade. And then that's why I came up with my new promotion with the cage Muay Thai now. That's when I thought, well, stuff it. I'll do cage Muay Thai instead.

1:23:25 So, yeah, it's everything MMA, but no ground. You can in the Muay Thai clinch, but you can't sort of suplex. Yeah, too dangerous hands my hands you break your hand and my hands are screwed, right? What would you think about guys fighting bare knuckle in MMA? Do you think that makes any sense at all? Yeah, the damage to be sustained and to try and get insured

1:24:49 with no pads on, knee someone in the head with no pads on, But you can't do it with your fist. Blang. Ray Leonard I didn't even mention his name. Disgusting old men existing on envelopes. at all. You just, you know, I mean, why would you not? for the East Coast. You're correct. That was shocking. Once you kill the nerves, they just never come back?

1:27:42 Can I touch your shin or is that weird? blood in it and that blood calcifies Malapet threw a kick. He's got those giant fucking calves anyway. Put that away. Honestly, does he have potential? Here's that takedown. I would push my balls into my body. Well, they did the one on fight science where the guys stand there and get a full kick. your body is.

1:30:06 For that quick instant. It's emotional. It's Oscar the grouch with tits. I was laughing. Fucking Oscar the Grouch with tits. Yeah, yeah small. Love. What are you doing? That's amazing man. What are you doing with this? Can you get in the clinch as long as you want a knee? That's a beautiful thing. I think K-1, you can't work in the clinch, right? They stop thing because i think k1 you can't work on the clinch they stop right like that's ridiculous

1:32:55 It obviously doesn't have any submissions, and it doesn't have any takedowns the way a wrestler has. And Rich Franklin had never seen that before, Anderson is not even close. Without being disrespectful. I mean, it's hard for people who seen like really great more tighter to more tie fights John John how many Oh, nice. Yeah, you're looking forward to like something's been fighting his whole life like that. Are you looking forward to retirement?

1:35:31 That's it. i'm scared of have you always been that way since you can remember um yeah since i was since i could So I lived in Bangkok and then had about 50 flights in Thailand and fought in all the So you just learned it from talking to them? Yeah, I slept on the floor with ten other people and then uh Because it's harder to throw a body kick than is a leg kick.

1:37:21 That that that rally whoa. Yeah, so you can be there for two minutes. If it's a knockout, then you win. Wow, so they really must be into body kicks. You have to get back into the gym and readjust as well because I'm the same as Probably 60 fights. You never heard of Nathan Corbett? If there was no body punching fight i bring someone from thailand or australia to america and the fight lasts 30 seconds and the

1:40:27 Yeah, I'm a purist as well. and fucking kick your leg out from under you. main thing I was thinking about those guys who would have a battle that first Then he's got to fight Wayne Barrett. This is a good fight. he would quit a lot. So I was like, oh, the kid doesn't have it. and he's such a good athlete, man. Yeah, we went down. Does that make sense?

1:42:49 There we go. He did beat Tom Watson. He was like the first guy to beat Krohn when he got his black belt. Look at that. Front kick. He gets more comfortable, I like that. That's all it is? I bought a car and some chains. What position? He's pretty fast. Is Brendan really white? Really? for Colorado? Yeah. The gold helmets? there i was in a draft pick as a free agent you know so you're basically like a body that they're

1:46:10 It's a business. Oh, shit. Dude, he was biting his fucking time. night in Brazil. Dalloway, now this, huh? That was nice. Sort of a shovel hook. Oh. Callan, what did you think of that combo? I'm sure someone would tell me. You never know. I was reading interviews and he goes I'm not too nervous because Just beating the shit out of each other in practice and taking.

1:49:22 Thailand we don't even wear shin pads it's so controlled and. And then, you know, you can place your shin across. You're not limping and then you're still friends. time you get to the sparring part wow that's interesting man i think that's a smart strategy We don't need to challenge this. And then like Mike's gym, they're known for knocking each other out. What was that gym called?

1:51:01 They're all padded up. So when you have young kids spar when they first first learn how to spar, how do you emphasize That's beautiful. striking do you think it's possible to do that too we're still just pulling back on everything um i It's going to happen probably. robots think about it how cool that is a movie already. Yeah Faking it as Edson? Wrestler first.

1:54:25 It's crazy timing. Pettis, Joe Lozon. Cro Cop Gonzaga is so crazy In Poland. Crow Cop's back. That would be fucking insane. I kind of understand. They might have some crazy match that they're setting up where Brock is scared to get hit in the head. They get into it, dude. Not quite. You know that you do you think that it's easier to pull off like stuff like wheel kicks when you're adding in all the other

1:57:50 yeah back in the day that had a vicious wheel kick yep but maybe they didn't throw them because No. He throws a jumping sidekick. Raymond Daniels is a bad motherfucker. Kept it basic. That's right. He's a straight beast. He's a ex-decker student to Nikki. Yeah, yeah Forget it. so sort of just, hey, how you going, and smiling. they get punched you're not getting famous

2:00:43 notice what he didn't say you're getting hurt yeah you're not getting paid you're not getting famous. You're going to jail. Spoken like a true pro fighter. He said that. Notice what he didn't say. There's got to be some wild, unorthodox Thai guys, depends on how fast they are it wasn't it wasn't like a proper taekwondo it was a it was a thai yeah and I was wearing a wig

2:02:04 with me I'm so, I'm so loose. I fall over and faint. When it comes to kicking, it's all about hitting the bag. I almost cried. That's not true. compete while I was chit-chat. Into rings. I fought all styles. I was having a stretch. I never saw you out there. At a national level. Let's be very clear. Yes, I fought in Iowa, the American Taekwondo Championships.

2:04:42 Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Brian, Eddie, Brian, believe me. Oh, that was a hard left hand. Okay, okay. Oh Yeah, he had an injury. Fuck, man. He had a lot of problems with his forearm. Damn, Michael Johnson's got some fast fucking hands. That was a strong fight for him, man. It really showed his composure. tag up Joe Lowe's on, he's just a different striker now.

2:07:09 He might be hurt. Mitryon is street, though. More country. Oh, there it is. He used that when he was coming in. Even as a Muay Thai guy, you can't not respect guys who are on this hard. Wow. Well, that's what Barbosa's had problems in the first round. Is he still with... Is this 55? He's on another level. a Muay Thai encyclopedia Some of those fighters, man.

2:09:59 I think what he's doing is the right way to do it. I think it's... What are they giving him, six months? Nah, bitch, here's a fight. I mean, a guy who's been fighting a long time. Yeah. I think it's smart, man, trying to break his will. And a southpaw, too. And a southpaw, too. Really? It's taken away a lot of weapons. How is he taking those shots?

2:12:39 He's got cardio. me up, and he's got way bigger balls than me No, no, no. No, I'm serious. Oh, there's Mark Henry. It's also a matter of Barbosa being able to weather the storm. Just that power thrown against the cage. know man i don't i don't remember right now i don't think so eddie there are black yeah i don't It's a purple belt. Dang, Johnson's just coming, man.

2:15:13 What is that? All right. Damn. Were you national champ for that too? That's what you told me. I'll get you all the details. I don't understand. Did you kick paddles or did you... I don't remember who I fought. I don't remember Jiu-Jitsu fights. He went for it. Let's wait. What about the southpaw stance takes away the teep? Middle weight. 72 and a half.

2:18:45 This is a John's on him. This is a war. I mean these guys are not fighting. They're trying to kill each other that takedown. That's right. That was a beautiful combination. Damn, that's a hard kick. What do you think about the varying differences between the karate style that you're starting to see from a lot of these guys and like thai style yeah i'm i'm loving it i love the variables the versatility i love i love having

2:20:32 yeah, if you can do You were thinking, awful fast kicks. Not really landing, though. Johnson's i mean how do you last this long there's only one takedown attempt as well the whole fight as well As he takes them down. I mean, it was kind of a national championship. 3-0, really? Chats. Is anyone taking Mir? Do you ever use open eagle claw here? Bigfoot needs to win, too.

2:23:06 He had a license to take testosterone. They his doctor's fault. Now his doctor's suing him. But god damn, that was a fucking war. I don't think you celebrate it. he was so disappointed. I was really sorry for that one, too. We don't test. really caring. all the pride fighters If you had to guess, based on the things you hear. He wrestled at 88. Mark Coleman.

2:26:22 people test positive then people get angry. Then the trolls come out. I think if you're around sports, you're going to be more accepting of it. Oh, really? We're going to have a pretend news fucking media thing. No, no. Eddie, that's what they're doing. and it keeps showing up in all these news. Everyone's still doing it. Isn't there, didn't that Victor Conte, wasn't he saying, when he said that they got steroids

2:29:04 system really quick, right? That's what Victor Conley said. And that's what the Balco scandal was all about was a designer steroid that they created. In cycling, are they still doing it? I think it's. I don't think taking steroids? True. They don't have to have a state athletic commission They don't have anybody to answer to. That's what you're getting into.

2:32:03 I don't get it. They didn't have any advertisements. But how did that correlate with demise of Pride? I don't get it. gigantic, huge things, like, you know, Well, what about... you can't say you know, motherfucker. He didn't look anything like he looked I told people John Fitch would never take steroids. You don't know, man. Look, there he is right there.

2:35:21 Yep, he did have his exemption. He was True. I gotta go with Frank May. Not for me. Bigfoot's never been submitted, and he's a black belt. Fedor. Fucking hard, man. that talking to tim in the octagon we wanted to keep fighting and then we showed him the video you make him fight a former UFC champion in his prime. That's how big of a freak he was. Oh, yeah.

2:38:40 It's amazing how he remembers all this shit You could remember shit Are there guys out there that can know? Kenny knows his shit. Every UFC, the number, the headliner, the co-headliner. I bet there's some fans who can do it for sure. Are there? I'm sure Joe's probably damn close. Kenny Florin's really good, too. Kenny knows his shit. these guys are all pretty yeah some guys get mad at me if i'm watching these and i don't know a guy

2:40:14 I liked it. system instead of following instead of just like looking at the scorecard and trying to figure it So I'd much rather have that than have these three fucking squares judging my fight ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous still Sam Adams. It's corruption. talked to me agree with Eddie let me tell you this seriously I've had a judge This guy told me through my face.

2:42:48 for a fall guy Let's watch the fight. about Bigfoot Silva. So then Shane went to the UFC instead of fighting Bigfoot Silver. That's normal, though. Their air conditioning was from the 50s. Maybe he's marking his territory. He got heavy after Brock beat the brakes off Mount Half Guard. Well, it's 25 pounds lighter than the weight. I'll have Bigfoot, please.

2:45:12 You got action. That head chin. That does not move. That chin is a hell of a target, though. That head chin. I would love if Frank submitted him. that you haven't seen a kale like that since phil barone kale dave minet remember when he pinned Still was nasty. Well, he's looking fast, man. Yeah, well, that's what he needs, man. And he was juiced to the titties.

2:47:02 God, his arms look really skinny. Oh! Yeah, son. What did he just say? You know, that's why I bet on him, I think it's a number of things. That is fucking beautiful, man. grounding and pounding. Brutality. I'm back. We got a remote? I can read lips, guys. Here it goes. Sorry, buddy. Daddy's bringing the bill home. That's the best thing he could have said.

2:50:05 I think you'd be surprised. legitimate reason You're right. Fuck that noise fight You're right Fuck that noise How about you go find something else to do Like how bad You're right. My client will not speak. Direct your questions to Joe Rogan, please. But with these new penalties that Dana White's talking about doing, and they both had a really low I don't know anything.

2:52:04 Typically, though, isn't it true that when your testosterone is very low like that, and that their testosterone was low because they a low testosterone to epitestosterone Huge win for Frank Mir. I worked on my lats mostly. I didn't even notice that. Yeah, amazing. It was like starting Muay Thai all over again once I put the little ones on. In a cage.

2:55:22 to the body and hold them there and... Fuck. Like, it was two punches that you talked about how you landed two punches, You tried to take me down, then I punched him, They don't even remember what happened. Octagon and I remember watch it and like oh, I don't remember any of this after this 100%. we did a thing after his career was over it was over 800 times so crazy just in the octagon

2:58:12 He looked great. Back to orthodox. When he did WC, he was really, really good, man. Yeah. I like that. man, how does it feel? The UFC's huge. All these ex-MMA fighters, or even current ones, really, they're putting the suits on, and they're on Fox. Really? He's my favorite. He doesn't even work for the UFC. Yeah. He loves fighting. Beat Jason Chambers.

3:01:21 But that show stuff, I mean. He takes a lot of heat because we're both bald, and they think that he's copying me, I was like, easy, bro. Guys will say things, and you go, I don't think that's right. but he's a sports guy he calls things wrong those. Those guys who don't train, I mean, I think Anik might train a little bit, And I don't mean John. look into it, oh, there's like a

3:03:25 in the beginning, and go, you know what? But, you know. How dare you? They had the same number and the same name? Mike Goldberg, the wrestler? He'll be talking to you about something, and you'll say something. Were they talking about the wrestler? I understand it. I love that. Nice to everybody. He's not a dick ever met. Such a nice guy. He's so cool to everybody. Nice to everybody.

3:05:57 Well, he wasn't thinking about the impact or the reach. But I've always told them, Just go about your business, man. You don't acknowledge that if you acknowledge them people go ooh Joe Rogan or Brian Callen acknowledge this negative stuff Kids. because the rest of the country is filled with bullshit. This is going to be an awesome treat. I know. The new video that you showed me that was fucking unbelievably amazing.

3:08:34 Good night, everybody.