Joe Rogan Experience #20150620 — Fight Companion - June 20, 2015 Transcript
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0:00 companion podcast if you never heard one of these podcasts before don't expect us to even pay Is that Hein? main card. Who's that guy there? Like I said, Fighter and the Kid, killing it. them to you I'm like I have an opinion I said I said you have the fashion sense I knew you were thinking of Helen Keller. You knew what I meant, though. Roger Wurta in his corner.
2:35 AKA has a big camp there. I didn't know this. Yeah. That sounds fun. Yep. I'd say jerk a dick. I took some heat for that dude. Oh, yeah She's the best in the world. Well, maybe you should know how to say her fucking name before you tell people to respect her. Jencechek. Do they call her JJ? It's too long. So the clock right now, the moment they show the clock,
5:23 Lucas is going after it. Yeah, you can't help it. I do. Your sister's mean. Yes. Good. I bet your sister got along with Patty great. Jesus, that's too intense, man. She'd be like, we'd be on a plane. That's your dad's barbarian genes. She's got bigger bones. Yeah, she does. She does have a tiny dick. But give up the position. Really? Two Kermit the Frogs.
8:54 The UFC, they can't tell them who to test. They're going to do it randomly all year-round. Good luck getting through security, son. I'm going to piss on your face. Dog, they got these fucking gummy bears. He would do it during the game. Yeah, like over him is smaller than he used to be but he still looks like a stud. Like, Overeem is smaller than he used to be, but he still looks like a stud.
10:57 Whoa, what the hell? Or a different doctor. How about the fact that when Ken did take him down, he never hit him once. That doesn't make any sense to me. I watched everyone, right? I watch all You had Big Brown on board. He's a man. Big brown. I don't want a West Side Story And then kids behind him. To me, the whole thing, the entrance looked so suspect because he was shaking everybody's hand.
14:07 Yeah. Yeah, because I was real as fuck I mean he definitely Yeah His eye was fucked up This motherfucker anyway Am I wrong about that Yeah, he's been never just kept grabbing the one arm, which is the right move to do, but I don't know man And Daley's really good kickboxing for MMA. He knocked out Manhoek. Watching those yeah. rounds. Think about that.
16:38 Who's a bad motherfucker to fight him after that and then he had a fight Artem Levin in the fucking this is all this is all Ten rounds against three different opponents. I'm the straw weight. Yeah, Brian and Joe Oh, nice. I saw that. I looked at myself and I was like, oh. Because you're an extremist. I'm moderate I always stop Joe definitely no I called
18:41 where were you I said I was in Costa Rica he goes oh I used to work in a clinic down there you Powdered sugar got in a little thing in the back of his neck. Chews up some grass. She's got green mouth. She's got green mouth syndrome. I am not that guy. See, that's what I love about my girlfriend, Joanna, is that she doesn't start any drama or talk shit, but she could.
20:13 Believe me, if you guys fucked, you wouldn't have much say in it. It's good. He's dick is surprised skinny skinny, but like me, but he's surprising. It's more of the ivory pony That's how you know a guy's not laying the proper plate. You know how it is, guys. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He is not tired. I forget who he beat in that way a lot of guys
22:37 He made a huge mistake. What yeah and Roger worked a big-ass dude and Roger worked a K Yes, did he get in trouble for it? No, he got love from the whole world fantastic Yeah, well that was the thing. He was dating that Oh, there's Roger. Look at a handsome bastard. Look at that. He's a fucking ladies man He's about to start a revolution of some kind.
24:47 This is some fight... Who owns the... Title fight at the end. I don't interject very much. A lot of these guys are real nervous about interviews because it's live, you don't know I want to know how a guy feels after. Because sometimes Was anything surprising? I wasn't surprised when I thought about it afterwards while it was happening. I think his issues are way beyond that.
27:26 So what do you think is going on? When you have some injury, you can still work on stuff and continue to get better. Exactly. I would imagine if you were getting ready for her doom in your cane Velasquez your coach says never shoot a second double leg Right. You can, but there But you can pass and still take him down. Unless you bring in a Vinny Magalhaes or someone who's got, like, a commensurate guard, good
29:36 And then, first of all, his technique was shit, right? This is an amazing fucking promo. Ooh. This commercial, by the way, cost a million dollars. Then 100 grand to film that shit Are you around for that? Yeah, you and I are. Business. Rearrange that. Do you have a new set now that you've recorded your special? Damn. But that room is fucking amazing for a special.
32:07 Like, how many cameras do you use? And the one camera that they have when you work there is perfect. That's right. What guy had on a Bentley belt. Yeah a little too much Joe Rogan opening for me. or longer, there's no way they're going to be able Sometimes my face hurts. Yeah, I didn't go on stage until an hour into the show plus. Yeah. because the sweat was different on my shirt and by the way don't wear a shirt like that don't wear
34:58 he was funny until I saw an errant hair after drug testing becomes 100% implemented. No, you're good. It's only the week of the fight. But this is the question I have. I doubt they can afford eight. That's what I was going to say. What would happen? By the way, I got these new vape pens. Goddamn, they're the bomb diggity. And if you like me and you like to talk
37:20 don't need to. Yeah. You don't need to get Really? There's only a certain like they won't go to Syria and they won't go to like Afghanistan I want to kill it with my hands, though. bacon really comes from an animal that's been Black as fuck. You do have a shitload of pets. I'll just point them out. It was fenced in, and it couldn't use its back legs, so it had to drag itself around.
40:26 In Alberta. 200 yards through the woods over dead falls with that bear on my back. Incline bench, man. That shit. can't transition anything but you could really sap a guy's will i agree you can control his breathing Who's better he tapped Dean Lister and any tap here on my CD I'm not UFC or UFC. Of course it's the UFC. You see the way he set that rear naked up?
43:34 I saw him he's the new light heavyweight champion You're a smart dude and you have the ambition I always text you right away. I'm like, Joe, check it out, man. It's amazing. And then we got the Master Kim shirt, but in red, white, and blue. Ooh, he handed him the mic again. That's a real problem. I see those all the time. She whizzed. I love athletes.
46:02 One of those little water picks down there. It's a fucking curse. You know what I'm saying? Men and women see things so goddamn differently. in a relationship, we're not friends anymore. Man, I love it now. They hug you and they feel your back. and he puts the weight bar here Fuck you. Juliet something or another. That same exercise as you. Videos of it.
48:27 It's ridiculous. I'll find it for you. You just, it's like so frustrating. Look up there. Yeah, that's I know this isn't her page, that's the only one I can find. This is going to be interesting. I know, right? What is that? One night, right? I'm not mad at it to mix it up, because you've got to do something, because you're not going But, you know, that gets a different crowd watching.
51:10 last night. I was really surprised about It's a little too much, right? For Bellator, it is. For what? Okay. This Reebok thing has a lot of fighters that are going to lose a shitload of money. Dtf man. Oh, I would do serious things to her I gotta start doing that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I guess Rampage has a gym. Good for him. Judge lifted the injunction.
54:15 That thing was beastie. Wow. I'd rather just get a Reebok tr stamp than where Reebok comes. You mean that'll change the fucking game. He did. But Glover trained for that shit in Connecticut in his backyard. So him going over to Bellator is not the biggest loss. If they get a few guys like that. I saw some good sponsors with Bellator, but I didn't see any powerhouse sponsors.
56:51 has Showtime Boxing. HBO has HBO Dennis Seaver. I know you can't pick, Joe, but Tony, Brian, how do you see Connor, Jose Hick? So you think he has more belief than Jose, a guy who hasn't lost in nine years? Don't question that. goddamn fast and nasty. The only thing about Aldo Did twice and Aldo dropped him in that first round. It's sort of illegal
59:21 Yeah, but then what do you do with Conor? And if you see Conor in there with a Frankie Edgar Boom, exactly. Yes. He's wearing sunglasses indoors and shit now. You've got a wrestling mentality Well, Aldo's not a wrestler on that level, though. I don't know shut the fuck up, please. Sorry guys guys. Just shut. Guys. Guys, I'm sorry. for the WEC title.
1:02:09 I guess she's with Bloody Elbow. I'm thinking why can't guys like make an agreement like if say like legitimate You get booed every week. It's weird, though. America's not I just think society needs to be consistent. You can keep playing all up into your 30s. Yeah, it was the only time that people were excited. I think he bleached his skin or something.
1:04:49 That's what I want. They look like superheroes. Back in that Hulk Hogan thing I'm serious. You don't think Cole Coggan has a needle in his ass? The bone structure that that guy has. is insane. Pull up Brock Lesnar's But back to bullshit wrestling, you don't think these guys, It's a brutal brutal schedule. You talk to someone who's in that business What about Batista, dude?
1:07:24 No. How dare you? No. Guardians of the Galaxy. Phenomenal. You're a mess. No. Oh, you're out of your mind. Too much action for me. Standing long jump 10 feet bench press 225 for 30 reps Jesus fucking Christ a Really? Ever, hands down. to the time he's being introduced to the UFC He had no idea how to defend against a leg block. fight. After Shane rocked him.
1:10:14 He had no business fighting Kane. But he doesn't like to get hit. Pat goes really hard. And Pat's like, what do you mean? They weren't hitting him. Ask Pat Fucking bullshit. And my boy Liotta's fighting, too. I think he does well without you. I'm depressed. Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. Liotto said in that Rockhold fight, he had, in an exchange, got hit in the back of the
1:12:32 But Rockhold had already had his back, was already beating him up. a fucking motherfucker of a fight. we didn't know that it was over. He was not punching him in the face at will. Donahue is such a fucking wizard. very, very prime, right? Yeah, it's true. Because it's the heavyweights. chill, right? See, I don't think so. I think if He'd be fucking huge.
1:15:26 Just got done beating the brakes off Mare. No, I agree. Yeah. MMA record, three and two, that stuff. Well, that has 69. That's impressive. Love it. I come from the McGregor clan. kicks from the crowd as fucking You fucked up, son. He's a bad motherfucker. How can you not be, man? I don't know how to say the dude's name, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he fights 145, and he fights the same style that Conor does.
1:19:03 That's trouble for Conor, though, if he found someone to mimic that style He looks just like him. Look at that Christ Damn. He's no joke. Look at his movement, man. So, yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. Damn, all in. Holy shit, son. Yes. All the 360 wheel kicks and roundhouse kicks and all that shit. Bill Arino. He's no joke. Where does he fight? Connor's not 5'11".
1:22:05 Ryan, you know when we find out that you're wrong, it's going to be ugly. You know I look at body types. Everybody be quiet. Oh, sorry. It's tough to say. And Bill Arino is explaining to him all the different setups that he does because Bill Arino fights exactly like Conor fights. You can't duplicate it, right? My heart wants Conor, but my brain's like, don't be foolish.
1:23:40 It could be. Wow. They have a lot of great boxers that have come from Ireland. Connor thinks it's going to be the biggest ever. Yeah, I think it does over a million. We got some other shit going on. We've got other shit going on. We'll do the weigh-inin and then after the weigh-in That's a great show. Knows more Come in like on a zip line No, you can't do that.
1:26:03 You could die. Owen Hart. Don't duck lip it, though, to the octagon. Free nose job. I don't have a weird nose. with you guys. I'm with you on Johanna. Dude, my Airbnb said they're unable to accommodate my request. Did you see the... Ridiculous. She's a fucking monster. Carlos Esparza, up with the gigs that I do with Joe, And Esparza, I would assume, is a better wrestler than Penny.
1:29:07 I'm too late to ask for her, but I'll make a go at it. Can Superman fight, though? Yeah. Yeah, so she's 160 when I saw she's hot. Yes, you know guys you think the girls need to be skinny. You're crazy man, when she fought Cyborg, Cyborg was It was such a fucking beatdown. See? Only her and Ronda are the only two that have another nose. In her country, in Poland, polo tops are hot.
1:31:14 Nobody had any food. under her title, badass bitch. Six-time world Muay Thai champion, first female European UFC champion. She is, this is what she'd say under her title, badass bitch. Trouble. They need her to be a dominant champion to make this I think people will catch on. Knees, elbows, that bitch is bad. Look at this. Light it up. Tony, it might be too much, my man.
1:32:55 That camera's speeded up. Dude, she's 115 pounds of fury. Yeah, I am. Yeah, bro. someone he's not there Brian's the only guy he doesn't I got multiple I got multiple eyes see And has a Bentley belt. too, man. She's so cool. You got to get your jab in her face, and you got to just follow up with a fucking serious kick. This is the first of all these fights.
1:35:34 Light on the feet. I like that jab. She goes low. tell you that you saw that on the ultimate fighter she's really good at hip tosses good luck taking Rhonda loves this fucking position. I'll tell you what. I don't like JJ's long board shorts me neither Right back up. I agree. By the way, that's good takedown defense. It's a macaroni joke coming your way.
1:38:08 You guys, I told you this. Oh, don't do that. Good left hook. Penne can take it, I'll five round fight, kids. Yes, sir. Oh. for Jiu-Jitsu. I know she goes there all the time. She doesn't get tired You can't elbow the back of the head. Just sit there. But those are girl legs. And she's, look at this, butt scooting, standing them up. Oh! Take it down. That's a legit take down. What the fuck, dude. Don't kid yourself. Come on, Jessica. And you know what? All this-
1:40:31 Yes, it was. fight that kind of grueling grappling exchanges exchanges is gonna wear on you Anna. Yeah, and she's gonna slow down Well, you know how hard life is in Poland if you look like that When they stick it in, they're not nice. Tony. Especially if she doesn't anticipate pulls back. Yeah, JJ's too high level to get caught with that bullshit. The way she leaves that head there.
1:42:54 Tell you what, Panay is standing right there, man. Ouch. Penny's taking a beating here. Oh, nasty blood. God damn, that hand speed is ridiculous. She needs to bleed inside of Joanna's ear. Her nose is splattering. Head kick just barely missed. Covered in her opponent's blood. She looks like a monster movie. manifesting itself in the form of a How tough is Jessica Panay?
1:45:45 Yeah, she is. You got another problem. Wait until the third round so Big Brown's prediction's right. Yeah, she's a beast, bro. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No! No! No! No, wait for the third! Look, 15 seconds. No! I am so fucking impressed with her.
1:46:53 Look at the cut on her nose. Oh my God, that's a huge gash that lit her up. I'm telling you. To see Ronda fight somebody in that weight class with this kind of striking would be What a badass. This is transcendent. Come on, Jessica. Keep your hands up. Ouch. No. Claudia Gadea and her had a really close fight. What are you talking about? It'll be over.
1:49:32 Yeah. Benet's tough as fuck, dude. Look at her. Hands up. Why are you stressed out? I don't like to see girls get fucked up, man. Oh. Really? I don't. I don't either. I'm exhausted. I, a little left hook. Come on, Penny. She's so tough. She's so fucking tough. Why are you stressed out? I'm exhausted. She's no joke. That jab is ridiculous. Hard to get her
1:51:04 as male-centric Nobody talks about it. Dude, I just watched the other day. To learn how to sprawl Multi-temperature Not that JJ can't be a superstar They put things in it, like up it, Third round TKO, son. god she's a beast man mad respect for jessica no doubt he's a fan favorite now. You cannot be a fan of Penny. She's so tough. Oh, look at her fucking
1:53:20 Well, yeah. On the nose, it's not too bad. The job that they did repairing it, they did an amazing job. For some reason, their scars, they have thicker welt-type scars. I was like, God, am I going to be fucked from now on? I kind of feel bad dude how about what she gonna look like in six hours. That's awful man Crank this up so we can hear this. Yeah.
1:55:51 My number one fan, Tony Hinchcliffe, Golden Pony. That's no fun. Her angles are amazing. Think if there's no Ronda at 135. That's the problem with Ronda at that weight class, though, past that point. Where we have to have some sort 15 seconds. And you're going to talk shit about Ronda's dad committing all right, this one's going to be close. But that's what's best available. It's not Ronda's fault. There's public views it as, oh, they're just tossing anyone to Ronda. But that's what's best available.
1:58:39 Does she have a nickname? No, I like JJ. Me too, man. Way more skillful. They went to war, man. Brazilian? Yeah, 12-1 right now. Yeah, it was before her Michelle Watterson's a beast. This girl tends to unprettyify Because that looks like boxing. She's a six-time world champion. especially today, in this day and age. They do so much damage. Damn, man.
2:02:32 answer the phone over and over again finally he was like ah fuck it i'll pick it up how crazy And the other one from a different lab did not test positive. So this is dispute as to which one was correct to taking something to heal his leg, What do you mean? was like six months in it stung it fucking stings it stung so important though so important to hear
2:04:58 I get that. gonna hurt like a motherfucker and might ruin career. But you just fucking hit him right straight, man. So the UFC gives him these young lines and they make a name off of him? now like what if orlovsky beats verdum and then you look at orlovsky in your fight which is you this crazy confidence man and people people tell you stuff and sometimes
2:07:14 I'm like, bro, I'll fucking talk to him, right? Way better. Dude, what? But he just goes he goes that's easy for you to say cuz you can walk away and you're going to make more money not fighting. You see him and then at least he's not It's heartbreaking, man. drug testing every fucking fighter a million times, which is expensive. Yeah, so you make that up and they're not you're not you know I didn't say comfortably. I'm just saying it helps out because the fighters are losing tons of monthlies, right?
2:09:54 keep going and going and going and going and going and just getting stratospheric That is just not the same as being the fucking heavyweight champ of the UFC. Fighting is not like the movies, man. This ain't a Mark Wahlberg movie where the credits roll and he's walking off in the sunset with a bag full of money. happens when fighters get hit a lot And it's almost like their balance is fucked.
2:12:16 You just can't fight anymore. You lose your license. Okay, but you say that but how do you how do you stop or Lasky from fighting? Now he comes back to the UFC, wins a couple fights, So I do think that most of those those comeback decisions could be But how do you tell him to stop when you tell people it's okay to skydive? same shit though and the reason it's not the same shit is that head trauma and
2:14:14 This is bullshit, man. Every athlete's going to keep going stuff's not illegal it's not like he's using meth okay he's using stuff that's legal you can buy it That would be the argument that the commission would make in baseball, right? I do. I think baseball home run. It's insane. He just passed You owe me $6 million if I hit this milestone that's never been done.
2:16:56 not paying him. And he's not putting up a fight either. But I'm saying, like you said, to your point, a great deal of baseball is skill. because your bat speed slows down. helmets. Well, when I signed up for football, are going to pay a very steep price or could pay a very steep price. Yes, they have no other options. become huge international stories.
2:19:03 player was like if I knew the repercussions it was going to have on my players and myself, Matt Mitrione talked about the fact that his son wants to play football, But that's what Mitrione played, what, for seven years? Well, okay, so let's let's just say for example I'm going to be all right. trauma, but at least I'm going to get But if I have to pick, at least if I'm going to suffer head trauma,
2:21:11 of a helmet on and then if you're talking if you're a heavyweight you're sparring with other Talking to Tony Jeffries, I mean, he was calculating how many hits he took to the head. 55,000 hits to the head. Yeah, how many times did he get hit in the head in the gym? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Like that movie. What's that movie? than everybody else. Once you get brain damage. Oh, that'd be dope. Like that movie.
2:22:54 Very difficult. Kurzweil was saying they're going to come up with artificial blood cells that are so efficient, You can just run. It'll be what the technology in your body. It raises really weird questions. human being is because so much of questions about what a human being is look at you you fucking science that means you're gonna walk away with the girl that's what we were
2:25:08 how much of a factor does that measure in when you talk about how good an athlete somebody well So awesome. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Got stuck in a head scissors and a guy slammed my head. Mexican name. And one of the things that they found is that when you have head trauma and you cool somebody immediately, you cool their head right away, it can be very, very beneficial to stopping long-term trauma.
2:27:20 He goes, what are you doing? But then you go home and you put on the cryo helmet? No, but I'm doing it and I'm like, what are you doing? But they're not... i like boxing i don't get it why don't you just do jujitsu that's what i need to start doing why You would go after those guys. Me, Tarek, and Jake Shields? You're going to train up there? Yeah, I mean, I have no business.
2:29:44 220. Cut loose 30 pounds? 145. Do you have a scaler? I'm like, I don't. And I could see the frenzy look in his eyes. That's my house. burly cook have you had a a cooking show dude do you know the comment post that would go your way and I go, what's up? And he goes, I'd like another piece, please. You want to see something nuts? they flip it over. just hibernates after that.
2:32:28 So you're not eating a lot of carbs that night. Do you just have great genetics? Well, I ate late at night. I would wake up two hours later in a hot sweat and I'd have to throw the covers off and I No problem. Me too. You know what the problem I'm having sticking to a strict diet is, You have a goal in mind. You have the best body true like girls look at your body
2:34:55 They're looking at him. I was like, that's weird. You know what? Get over that right now. it was only 20 years ago some time some time man let's hear what Vinnie Shorman said the hypnotist that I I got bullied for a full year and it turned me into a fucking if somebody tried to blow me That's true because they said stupid shit, and then you said stupid somebody fucks with me, bro
2:37:24 me bro, I don't give a shit about your USC bullshit. I would fucking come right to your house. He hangs around with a lot of idiots. You hang out with a lot of people that are such bullshit artists. You know who. Come on, man. I was like Are you talking about Are you talking about just be kind of... Right away. Just ignore of your life and then you have to deal with their bullshit.
2:39:42 I don't have that bone in my body. crazy. There are two people I've Bro, it would ricochet off the car window, and I'd be like, What do I have to tell him? What's a doctor going to tell you? God damn. Circuit breakers. Yeah. and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over Thank God. You're listening to the recordings, trying to figure out how to tweak the joke and add this to it.
2:42:39 Yeah, what's happening? They want to go into something to try to... Fighterinthekid.com. That's in the summer, right? We have TheFighterAndTheKidShop.com. Of each of those things I'm going to be with Tony July 10th Bye-bye. Mwah. Mwah.