Joe Rogan Experience #20161022 — Fight Companion - October 21, 2016 Transcript

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0:00 3, 2, 1, BOOM! He's over here. He fucking hates Glory. That should be interesting. the Vanderlei fights back in the early 2000s, And they're reading the Glory Rules. I was undefeated, so. you think of kickboxing, they think of PKA karate from ESPN at 2 o'clock in the morning They were fighting in pajamas. Yeah, but you use those more, right? It's harder to land an elbow than it is to land punches.

3:38 And when Joe Schilling gets here, you know, Joe's obviously, but on the mat you know um but in kickboxing i mean that's where you're at and i don't know Yeah, the only thing I really don't like about Glory is they feel like they do break you from the clinch real quick. Yeah I remember the first K1 that was I think it was like what 92 93 maybe 94 here

6:12 I don't remember for sure, but. Yeah, that changes the range a lot. really effective with those kind of traditional martial arts techniques because I feel like some There's almost too much to learn. I mean, guys were individual specialists back in the day, but now you get a guy like Wonderboy. But you put them in a ring with a Joe Schilling. You know, that level is, that's like, you know,

9:25 And I know you're a huge fan of Glory, the organization, the way they treat the fighters once they leave. It is good for the sport. Right? That was Yeah, I don't know. Did you see that one? Really? Then you see it goes rubber on you. Real tough to come back from. what what bothers me most about that is how much pain those dudes are in instantly. No, man.

13:09 Yeah, that southpaw is usually when it happens. you know the southpaw you end up kind of boss explains a lot better than me with the uh the Your shin is sharper toward the bottom, but it gets much thicker, much denser. might have been i trained with malapet man that guy you know what malapet means no diamond and Because he's not kicking you hard, so it's not going to hurt.

15:18 And they call it old bones. When they've been throwing people around their whole life, they got this weird feel to them. He's putting me on the fence. but he didn't start out as a striker. You know how your brain sees people doing stuff and things seem normal? And for a guy that's that big to be able to close the distance so fast and punch you, Yeah.

17:28 well he's got way better hands than raymond though the thing that makes him like raymond's getting And then Wonderboy's creativity with what he does. Out of nowhere. But, you know, Wonderboy's been hit before. Front leg side kicks, front leg roundhouse kicks. Johnny Hendricks. Yeah. fuck is going on yeah um uh rory uh johnny hendrix he's like yeah you know like what you know and then now you're a target for that guy who's just doing his shit you know

19:54 guy, those sport guys who can I just hate the dancing style. Because it bothers the fuck out of his opponents, too. Mike Matheta. Hood muay thai. back in the 90s oh that's interesting jokes on you damn you fucking ran with that shit i saw you That is as old school as you get, right? You know what I mean? Oh, my God. a lot. That bugs the shit out a gang of them now, man.

23:46 it was hard to open them. at point. But how do you stop And people say, well, that's too harsh. changes. And then one guy's in trouble That would be crazy. eye no eye gouging you were allowed to grab hair you were allowed to punch nuts Keith Hackney but He was three feet tall and two feet wide. I didn't know that. He's a crazy dude, man. Even Jesus himself would be like, guys, guys, guys.

27:05 The body of a cellmate, 50-year-old, convicted child molester, Oh. mark on his head one time I saw him fight, but I guess that's a real mark on his head. Nate was 163 pounds. Yeah. Wow. And he, He used to spar with That's ridiculous. person walking in and I look up, what the fuck is that? And it's Carwin in between fights, Right. Yeah. Well, somehow or another.

31:20 out of Brock, he would be the UFC heavyweight champion. I mean, he's way bigger than Mark Hunt. Yeah I mean when you I don't know. and there's all these photos of him you could can see him online where he's wearing shorts and shit. But so it's a medication. Yeah, of course. Well, Chael It's not even USADA. No. No one's the Athletic Commission, right? It's not even, it's not USADA.

34:05 The commissioner came here from Georgia and he's cracking down. What do you want to do about it? I thought he was knee buckled. that's going to damage your opponent. But if you test Not only that, USADA and Novitsky were... Watch this shit. in his system, right? Like a world tour t-shirt? I think that was when he got popped. Watching Tim Sylvia walk around, he doesn't look like an athlete.

37:48 And for some reason, he never did that. takes a lot of effort i mean i i listen to kelly i think kelly knows the fuck he's talking about Jamie, pull that up. That was a nice... Here's a brief description of each. the bones into growing straight. The condition will not clear up on its own. Metatarsus seductus requires treatment, the nature of which varies depending upon whether the condition is flexible

40:34 Interesting. Now I know. So I'm like, how are you asking someone else to do it? Hey, Whitney Miller. Yeah. And he throws a punch. He throws it this way. So he turns his knuckles punch. I was in his guard. I'm on top. I'm in his guard. And he throws a punch. And I put my head down on his belly and hold on his biceps. He was in his guard, closed guard.

42:06 My brother-in-law, Aaron, he was, I think he's like mid-30s. Why would you even do that? Now they're like talking about he might be able to keep the eye with like filling it because it but the vision's gone like a fun game To the thigh it's cool above the thigh with that push kick it's gonna extend your leg and it's gonna hurt every time you feel any kind of twist or pop or any scar tissue that breaks

44:42 that i hate this shit the flashy dancers and the heel hookers All the steroids Look at that fucking picture from his Instagram. Look at this. Yeah, he's super athletic, and he's a giant dude. fuck, yeah, I can't wait. Because I thought I was a little worried that, right? Let's do one for that. And the bigger, the more juiced up he gets, the more I'm like, fuck yeah, I can't wait.

46:19 I should. They're sort of America. Are you on Bellator? I'm canceling the fight. like one kickboxing fight one like shockwave did or yeah i believe so are you gonna fight on local Is he taller than you? He's like real consistent. with you. Yeah, Bamba's been fucking... Bomba. and was a training partner And we started doing drills. The first Thai tape I ever watched from a friend from Thailand.

49:17 What about a guy like San Chai who's 36 134 wins, 32 losses, zero draws with 45 k.o.s that is incredible at 20 years old he'd fucking train Muay Boy, that's a big step up for him, man. Oh, yeah. there's not too many guys the Bukow size. Sitsong Pinong. Tiago's listening right now going shut the fuck up He's got a quick trigger on that right kick, man.

53:05 He looks great. Wow, his middle name is Herculano. Johnny Gleason. He got rocked. I think I really enjoy Vinny. I think Vinny's really good he knows his shit that's for sure absolutely um That referee is pro-America. Can't call it a knockdown, though. In a Muay Thai fight You're like Yeah think you end up doing that or um we should just watch a bunch of romo and decker's fights

56:56 There's a thing that you see with guys like Sitsong Pinong. He just clenched him and hit him with the knee there. He's, like, really close to this dude. here or maybe he's looking for the big shot but it's not coming Get aggressive But it seems like he's not just. Is the ref going to stop it? The way he went down. What the fuck, dude? Is that it? No, that's the very end of the fight.

1:00:31 time and why was he so wobbly? Doogie Howser. It's probably commercial time. I tried texting him, but I haven't heard. Yeah. No, it was just the main event. Yeah, it's a really good fight. And then my buddy Romeo Danzo's fighting on that card as well. especially, like, what is the one thing Oh, yeah, for sure. Show us the fucking replay. Hmm. Incredible.

1:04:17 Six fights versus 160-something. Guy's a fucking monster. They're very loyal to the king over there. if obama got shot maybe a month into office people would be sad yeah but after a month they were and they're selling them. So I grew up in Ohio, and that was like a thing, but it was like not like a racist thing. It's not, you know, it's not whatever.

1:06:55 Imagine if the Nazis hung on to that. So this is an interesting fight. So, I don't know. the contender tournament at 205 at Glory God, why is it so much like MMA? before the UFC Light heavyweight, 175. And then the UFC said, yeah, you're not really in this weight class yeah that was in the hemorrhaging money money days they didn't have any money no

1:10:09 and have his teeth where the teeth connect And you're like, I know he had surgery Yeah. Well, Chris Lieben introduced the world to Anderson. Yeah. Those were some of the most impressive fights he ever had in his entire career. or something over there. of England his comment is had a crazy fight I remember from when he was fighting. 167. This tough-ass white dude.

1:13:32 Oh, yeah. Oh. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. he had though like the rio chonen oh yeah it's like had a broken foot going in that fight oh Yeah, he had, like, left and then sort of established. He was so primal, you know? Did he have fucking contacts or what? juiced to the tits. completely different level when it He doesn't cover his chin Because he was just so fucking crazy and screaming and...

1:16:42 They had shorter rounds. Yeah. Oh, so they bet for the draw? If online betting was still there, I'd bet on this for fun. You pick rounds. I'm a goddamn American. Not only that, I don't think he's allowed to visit america i think calvin air lives in like costa rica do you remember calvin air do you remember bodog fight i remember bodog there's Yeah.

1:19:05 like, it was November. Matt Lindlund and held on hard and then There was some sort of controversy. he had gone through a lot of weird shit right in pride i feel like there's fedor in pride and i The Pride contract says, this is what it reads. Yeah, he's awesome. and then when they came out, there would just be cups all the way along, He wasn't even

1:21:34 fighting. parked a bunch of Niceland. than anyone I never seen anybody right after blunt that's what I want to know like some dudes just don't stop. I stop, man. You know who got me one of the most high? He's an animal. We should have stopped. Yeah, samurai spirit. He could take it, man. Yeah. Dude, that dude looked like Stefan Bonner for a second.

1:25:23 Artem Levin. I didn't see the whole thing. But then somewhere around the second round, give it to me and then fucking gave it to him right gave it to him wellness can crack well good either no when i knocked him out he fought again and yeah like i said he's got like that I know we got CTE, man. ugh I mean, he was articulate. But it's just like this slow creeping thing that's happening to you.

1:28:33 Right. If he didn't have it before, after that knee, he's got it now. Fuck. who had it it's full effects Depending, of course, Like that Will Smith movie. No. But he looks really fucking bad, huh? though i mean you're taking some of the best at high school they're best at best athletes in their and playing with injuries and all that shit because it was like a big deal but yeah you

1:31:38 They were like, no, you can't say that. Yeah, the real problem with all this CTE shit is there's nothing they can do about it. So I guess the next step would be to figure out a way to test for it they're going to do testing to see if they can so my thinking is much clearer explains finding the Joe Namath used to walk around with a fucking gigantic fur coat on.

1:33:27 that shit right well hyperbaric is the exact opposite of altitude like high altitude is low And I think that's supposed to be really good for, I did it a few times after my, to repair from like knockouts. fight where I still look real fucked up, you know? Like, no, just you're, you're high. We've all seen those punchy guys in the gym, you know? doctor and i'm talking and i talking and I'm literally saying something.

1:36:26 I don't remember any of that. I just know what happened because i watched the tape so to this day you Did you go out? like as I was talking to him and she's like laughing other than that What happened? Yeah. that was like dope shit that you did you said that like stuck up for that because watching as a But it was a fight where there was moments where he had his moments in the fight.

1:39:22 And then I said, do you think it's at another angle? He's lost to Ben Rothwell by knockout. him? No. I think that's it. Chuck. Chuck knocked him out. Right? Didn't he? Chuck But the botter stoppage He didn't even get knocked down This should be a really good fight, of MMA fights, I think, really, really technical he's probably the hardest I've ever seen anybody.

1:41:40 You've never seen Melvin in a video? And Robin starts hitting pads. This one is his first fight. He looks real lean He fights Then Vargas from Canada, which I'm assuming is probably high altitude. Eh? I don't know if we'll find out. diplomatic. I know. Knocked out Mark Hunt with one punch. really looked up to and like really respected a lot and uh it like meant a lot to me that i was

1:45:25 Protect you The I think his jaw That's on his corner. Yeah. going on. He might be zoned in. They very rarely block leg kicks. If anybody has an extra Viking in their tomb, I'm going to break my fucking feet every time. Trying to get that back in there. What's the other Is that what it is? Yeah, went flying into the audience. Were you doing martial arts then?

1:49:24 Yeah. and you're obsessed, That's the most awesome thing, man, eating burgers, going to the gym. He had steak and potato as his game meal. Or not while he's fighting, while he's training. Pull it up, Jamie. He can do what he wants. Right. Oh, Yeah, Vargas takes a lot of leg kicks. his phone. Makako versus Pele. With the net at the bottom. Yeah. Okay.

1:53:24 Andre Ward. I think pound for pound is... All us peasants are demoted to water. Why Floyd Mayweather I wonder what that was about The kind of style Cause some think about fuck They're giving him fucking Gatorade. Wow. Give me the other bottle. Oh, Bruce Mullen with a nasty left hook to the body there. Do you remember that fight? up and coming fighter

1:56:17 Louis Resto and felt it raging alcoholic and wound up committing suicide. Moreover, a contestant must provide the commission and its staff with any information about the request to drink in sufficient time to make a determination as to whether the drink is I mean... Is that what it is? Is that possible that boxing has different rules? Did they stop the fight

1:58:23 Who's that? We missed the ending of this awesome fight. Yeah. Who wants to go there? I was shocked. But I'm thinking he's Canadian. Oh, that's cool. That's interesting. You don't like our new king. The Neutral Corner. He's not like, Donald Trump, yay! I don't even know if it's going to count, but I would still rather write in either way. You know what I mean?

2:03:11 Like, I wonder how much... What the fuck would have happened if Bernie Sanders got in? You're not the law. So you didn't commit a crime. and you're on the list, by the time you get to the end your name should be on there that's that's that's that's i mean Well, there was a woman, I believe, who was a Green Party candidate who was on the terrorist watch list.

2:06:05 like how the fuck can you keep them from going places you can keep them from flying One of the ways to stop. Is that on this or is that on ESPN3? I was like, I. But I don't think Thanks for bringing that up. Beautiful. Let me see that. You're really humble for a guy who's fought as much as you fought, too. So thanks. You're really good, man. Vandalite, probably one of my all time favorite guys to watch because you see it was pure chaos.

2:10:04 do this and what are you gonna do about what i'm doing and he does something, he's asking you a question, and you're answering him with, I'm going to do this. You know, you kind of play with that and feel it. And that's how I watch fights or how I fought. I would try to do something and see what you're doing because of that. You kind of play with that and feel it.

2:10:38 What's he going to do about his strengths? and I try to see if guys play like that. Because he's so smart in his assessment of risk and reward and putting yourself in a position where your opponent doesn't exactly know what you're going to do, but you know how he's going to react. And God, there's so much that they're giving a guy in that situation.

2:12:39 And Ben Askren, Tyron said, Ben likes to cause scrambles. if you can create a scramble, then you have a better chance of getting variables of Dominic Cruz's And it just makes you realize, Like, it might not look like everybody else's, Neo footwork is what people are calling it, right? Switch moves like they're they're hitting pads with these and they're very confusing

2:15:34 because that's going to make you get off balance get stand there for them be the guy that's just That's a part of what Dom does. That's a fact. fight better than that and so then you see him from he gets back up to his feet i mean some high level shit man and he hurt suhudo to the body So when those guys get put on their back, they don't really know what to do.

2:19:16 The little bit of a fight he was in with Mendes when he was on his back, he did some work, But he managed it. it the second time he didn't he wasn't like oh this is a real fight now i i gotta get out of That could easily happen. I mean, he had some fucking serious endurance to press the pacerage that it took to put him away i mean he had some fucking serious endurance to

2:21:36 Because, right, we haven't seen him there in the UFC. I think it has been for the longest time. he's beaten the fuck out of. then you kind of just fight to get just a little bit better than the other guy, I mean, he always fights at that level, division but guys are so close and maybe namaga madoff is that guy hmm well he certainly has been and tight with his grappling and his positioning his ground and pound is horrific. He's a scary dude, man.

2:24:44 And especially from that range, it didn that's not an easy throw to hit. would never lose. Yeah, man. Like, who's beating that guy? I would send that guy to fight wars for me. Yeah, man. Look, he a hold of guys like he did with Rick Story, but he's doing it in this technical, squeezy way. But then I don't know if it's entirely the fairest comparison

2:26:31 But Nurmagomedov, good luck. fucking aggressive style of his that's so makes it so fun to watch him is almost like ultimately too much on your joints, too much on your body. but then joe and and someone else are working over here, and that guy tries to take Joe down, and he runs into my heel. I wouldn't doubt it. these puddles. and go flying through the air i fought at that um king of the cage wet and wild you did that's right

2:29:59 Is that where King of the Cage is at? We went out there and fought in the rain on a vinyl mat The guy was on The Ultimate Fighter? Oh, damn. I didn't really know him. fuck this, what did I do? Oh my God, my brain's dry. I feel like shit, but you can get through It's a, So that when you come out of it, your body's already starting to crank up its production.

2:32:55 Who knows what's causing someone to feel like shit. I think I have seen him. It wasn't Nick. It was just in the UFC. Jeremy was on The Ultimate Fighter. Yeah. Was he on with him? No, it was in the UFC. It was just in the UFC. claim to fame on the show that him and Nick Diaz had that beef. That was his claim to fame on the show He said, he didn't say who

2:34:44 And then Nick went on to, I think Nick beat him by submission and beat him by decision. I think this is actually the only time the Nick had ever been stopped he's way too big I mean I think he fought 55 Really? What a fight that was. He's fought a lot of hitters in their fucking prime. But he was hitting pads. and knocked him out with the lead I was

2:37:56 Sometimes there's these crazy moments where people like Ronda Rousey got in Holly Holmes' face. really are for a split second yeah but you see Because Robbie's a pretty mellow dude. And then he's standing in front of him. how fucking young he was when he was fighting at a really high look how beautiful bruce buffer is But his fucking pace, man. he's done iron mans i think and i know he's i think he corrected me i said on a podcast once

2:41:06 That is legitimately 100% shark-infested water. That same here. Wasn't he in Elite XC, too? Let's just do this this Connor likes fighting at 170 they're one and the same There's a short right hook there that stung him. Yeah. I went down. of beating him up taking his back and then choking him yeah it does very sharp yeah it's not there's nobody's even talking

2:44:36 that's exciting. in my personal opinion, when they pipe it as the5 card, for me, like, in my personal opinion, card can main event a show it really could it's crazy yeah it's an it's a nutty card there's three Here it is. That Al Iaquinta thing. There's a lot of guys out there. guys can give you that full sort of farasa hobby matt hume sort of experience where they've got

2:46:51 And it's not a coincidence that, like, the great ones, like Demetrius. He stopped Pat Miletic in an MMA fight. Because of guys from my generation like Dean Thomas and Mike Brown. they're not going to have to go to a And when you watch what he's coaching, he's primarily coaching striking. His brain works on these combinations. And you'd want to like a guy like duane where that's where his brain works his brain works on these combinations and you'd want to like yeah man do that like fucking definitely

2:49:33 Again, the best, most complimentary way possible, but he's a freak. Yeah. No We didn't watch this fight for a second. personally fun guy to watch fight yeah he's uh i'm really interested to see how how this goes And then Robert Thomas I was thinking about When you said If they want to get an MMA I'm just learn it, I mean, the submissions. I mean the way he did it was uh. The way he did that, Carlos is stunning.

2:54:07 And he defended. Someone who was really good. and he got caught in a super impressive. Crackle, crack, crack, crack. That shit happens all the time. I've been lucky. god damn the idea i'm going to be technical that's just how my brain works, I guess. I wasn't that guy. This dude fights calm and collected. He wrote some funny shit about Brendan Schaub

2:57:29 Schaub would want to have these girls diagnosed for CTE. And he's also extremely capable. I was so psyched when it got on UFC Fight Pass. sponsors sponsors yeah when i was fighting on it and they had because it was just uh You know what I'm saying? That's super cheap. Like some fighters' playlists. I like that. Then you would like be able to What's up with those shorts?

3:01:00 Talk us through this Yeah. one it doesn't work when you're that big in my opinion and it in this style of rules it's not have more of an American kickboxing style or a Dutch kickboxing style, That was a nice leg kick. It's a way slower pace. It's about gambling it's just no not at all He's got way more of a boxing stance. looks like really good Yeah.

3:04:29 It's interesting. how have i been saying it i didn't know how to say it. I said style. I just signed it. The shorts are dope, though. I'm not. Might be it. I really do. And I think it's great what they're doing now, bring that ufc level experience back to the bellator cage then that rate that's the same He was the champion. Like, can he do that to Damian Maia?

3:07:59 Yeah. That's the fight you bring him into the UFC to fight. Someone who's going to do something crazy. Jay's a very good MMA fighter, and he can wrestle. Dude, I want to see him in a lot of guys. Like, what's going to happen there? Yeah, especially when they come in He just holds on to guys in weird ways. but is more effective, I mean, it might be Jay Heron squared.

3:10:51 I don't think they would fight. Honestly, in an MMA fight, I think it's bad for Ben simply because they know each other so well, Standing up. Ooh. That's another one. Very good wrestling. especially in the first round. Oh, my goodness. and that it's, yeah it's that kid He's a four-time All-American. I get up. I couldn't do anything. People that just have that high a level.

3:15:24 Ben used to, like, used to I met him he was just going out or the first time he worked out with Ben, Wow. That's how good he is though. how to sprawl like Dean Thomas doesn't know how to sprawl wow you know that's But it was just Shaolin refusing to tap because nobody even knew who It's very rare you see a high-level guy like Shaolin Hibero get put to sleep.

3:17:36 Marcelo Garcia versus Shaolin. It's not a fight You get hit This is, boom. And the The way he's spinning and trying to resolve it. fuck that's amazing and again shaolin he did it to a beast you know it wasn't like to some I'm going to take him down, secure the round, Mean Matt Lin was like like I can't do anything to that guy. Not necessarily in a fight. Just in a wrestling, grappling situation, Sambo situation.

3:21:26 but i know some really good wrestlers that get destroyed by marcello yeah like ben askren like You know, and he was doing it from butterfly guard. I mean, they're muscled, but they're just, like, round. The ability that your legs have. one of the things about Tyson that was so fucking impressive is his legs. You know, really He's using that incredible leg power to secure you.

3:24:11 one of those things Like, using his leg he didn't for a long time and that was his rationale i mean he might have changed and went But there's something about the way he climbs off Shaolin when Shaolin's unconscious, and he just squalls him out in seconds. Yeah. yeah you're dead and injecting people we talked about Big step up for Jacoby, though, right?

3:27:10 Who won the first fight? Jacoby. Oh, nice push kick. Yeah, he lives in Colorado. And he was out out? Six weeks ago. He doesn't look that comfortable. fought you in the first round too i mean he's got a first he's got a first gear that's pretty And his... That's why he was able to get away with those explosive movements and not conserve energy, right?

3:30:20 For myself. They're going to stop the fight. What is Simon Marcus... The fight is over, right? What are they going to do gonna do they're gonna say okay go go in there i mean But my question is, how do you start the round and then have the guy, have him get checked out like that? And it was a smart move to do. Yeah, but did he ask for help or did he get up off of the stool ready to fight and then the referee decided to call the doctor?

3:33:14 Yeah, right. and then stayed on his stool at the end of the round So a lot of people thought, well, the fight should have been stopped right there. And giving someone an extended round, just're they're just sitting down there powerful tj dillashaw I have a feeling but I'm not telling the ref. Yeah. and you could stand like you're going to throw it. Yeah. Like if you get hurt in the fight. It's almost like your hand. Yeah. If it's the forearm, you can at least move it out of the way, and you could stand like

3:35:33 That's a different beast. You may be able, but you start getting up here in your bicep area. His one knuckle is always poking out. They have no idea. Yep. Yeah, man, you can't let a guy fight with a fucking broken arm if you know it's a broken arm. He just kept clenching him up and dumping him and shit, but he broke That was obvious. You can't do anything

3:37:33 But that happened midway through the first. That's right. He did get knocked out. Yeah. Wait, so he came back out? Yeah. I'm pretty sure he came back out. That's right. Go back up so I can see who he's fighting. Oh, yeah, that's right. and Trujillo wound up winning by knockout. That's weird. So I had the two memories You figured it out, man. What's your feelings about weight cutting?

3:40:26 both ends i'm sorry burning the candle both ends at that point um but it's not as hard as say some guys like gleason tebow or um guys that that are much bigger and the weight class you know i think If everybody just, first of all, there should be more options, right? class every 10 pounds and i think with fighters like what really matters what everybody cares

3:42:08 You know? Like, I just want to see Yeah. You get the 160-pound champion versus the 150-pound champion, last time he made 45 you're like what the fuck like he looks he looks like like a dying person like that i wake up fight morning i'm sorry weigh-in morning at like 158 maybe. terrible and then he got it balanced out he figured out how to do it slapsy maxi what was he is he a light heavyweight no that was billy khan was a light heavyweight

3:46:02 when i was a kid he was was like, he was Superman. Yeah, he won a round without actually throwing a punch. You just couldn't imagine anybody at that time in particular having better footwork. that doesn't fuck people up, He will fuck you up quick, too. He's a fun dude. is a special dude some serious fucking power had some real problems outside the cage, though.

3:48:20 And then he went crazy. Marcello, who was it that put him to sleep? And Vandele went out Really? Got him in a triangle. seems to indicate that that's what took place i don know. But Vandeley went out and fought after that. And Cristiano Marcel winds up on the ground with crazy horses trying to Because this is the finals. Sponsors probably. Belgaru.

3:51:54 I didn't know they had kickboxing on ESPN at all. I think the promoters promote it better, I guess, And in Holland, it's like they're like national sport that's it? These are good fights. street fight videos and masvidal used to fight back in the day and they would say no kicks no It's not what we're used to here on this side of the world Bruce Lee, Van Damme, every UFC hero of all time.

3:54:59 When have you ever seen a Glory advertisement, like a commercial? We got his name. He's slipping that right hand often, but he's trying to come back with that left hook. O-U-I. They probably got some cryptic Celtic looking speech. because it's like you're reading some forgotten scrolls. Yeah, Arabic and Hebrew. The world is so much more diverse there was, in Houston specifically,

3:57:47 See that shit? There you get cracked. And I'm sure it's kind of even hidden in some places, but it's hidden everywhere at some point. There's so many more people here Yeah, Texas is a trip. Remember when 55 was the limit yep what in the fuck was going on with people 55 that was crazy that is crazy was just so foolish just like come on we're not talking

4:00:51 Yeah, I would bet. But they were talking about how people get over out of the fast lane on the Autobahn. I've never been to a place that has more disregard for the left lane than L.A. You don't know. They're like two lanes long in some spots or two lanes wide in some spots, so when someone's coming behind you I lived in Houston, man. i if not because but there are people that do this because they're afraid to drive at those high speeds so there are stop lights at every intersection on this feeder

4:03:58 More the better. there's going to be no more trees or plants like everything is going to be house then we have to What is it, Jamie? I think it's horse shit I've noticed in my co-op, Okay, here it is. I don't want to hear the decline. So since 1970, the world has doubled the world doubled and the united states has gone up uh by 50 percent right so i guess growth is what's

4:06:56 But the world has doubled. Something might happen with it? On the TriCaster? Oh. back up? oh okay what is that going to be 50 years from now? Yeah, and look what they project by 2050. There's a stat that says that the whole population could fit in Texas. Yeah, yeah, you could kind of fit them physically, So what does that mean? I was confused as to what you were saying.

4:10:46 7 trillion. They all need food and water and a place to shit. And out of that tube mixes with our terrible pollution, I think so, yeah. something bad just happened there but there are places that are in that same situation without off like say if you're buying something that's three dollars and fifty cents they round it off think about how much crazy shit could get done.

4:14:38 Round it off. want to give it they gotta wake up they gotta wake up we're all in this together if you can If Amazon wanted to get people to love them again, because sometimes people hear about to where the item is and get it Yeah, show up at your house with a fucking UFO. It's carrying your new boots. How You know? It was fucking 93 degrees today. Myrthel. Myrthel? Myrthel? Myrthel.

4:17:55 Who did Fred Sanford used to scream for? Merthyl sounds like one of those old times you need. When people would get bummed out about him or get shitty about him, I'm like, what? No, people don't like him for some reason. Oh, what is this? Nature Conservator, Operation Smile. lot it's like there's a business of charity and the people that work for those charities they get

4:20:24 Like, this is like really technical striking all around, up and down. Yeah. Oh yeah Dude Melvin was crazy Every chick? There are moments in fights where dudes get their shorts grabbed, did see it and they said stop grabbing the shorts And it's myrtle, I believe. is that? You can grab your own shorts to defend yourself? choke your own pants and Yeah.

4:25:00 Is that legal? in MMA while holding onto your I mean, if you can get all your fingers in there, Yeah, you could do the top of your hand. Or we'll let him fight with a gi on. I feel like I saw that. in the ufc and then hoist armbar him so hoist had already fought him in a dojo war first and just and he was also a cop, and him and his students beat the fuck out of this homeless guy.

4:28:00 Well, the guy that he was fighting. But the point is that, like, that was like a crazy person. Yeah, there was no MMA then. And there'd be guys waiting. Very smart. Anyway, his dojo stories are fucking crazy. This is what we're going to do. There's photos of Yoji Anjo leaving, and his face is just a pulp. He's just mounting him, beating the shit out of him.

4:30:50 In that time, it was like completely undisputed. And then this is where the G Hickson is. it's real huh one of my happiest moments as a martial artist was i had dicks i had uh dinner and talking about the right way to do things. talk to him about like everything starts neutral it's like we started neutral position he goes but He fractured Hickson's orbital with a punch.

4:33:48 Coliseum. Valley Tudor, ran through everybody, Do you remember that? It was like KRS Pride. KRS 1? The promotion. No Pride It was like KRS Do you remember that? Dude, we're barely watching this awesome fight of all time. two-dough crowd. I've been trying to do that ever since. But he was like one of the first guys to incorporate yoga into his training.

4:35:47 Wasn't that on choke? Might have been. I know that now tape he's like yeah it's mine it's mine and he's also the guy that like he had a price like he said you know and people said that he was like Is this the main event? I thought we were here for the fights. That's a real problem, isn't it? That's what I sounded like. because like obviously it's not the same as sword fights but these crazy legendary martial arts

4:38:48 So we sat down and we talked for an hour. Yeah, that's a really good idea, man. and we talked about so many things we were talking about i was like if you could go back in time if if they don't meet me, they'd have that. I hit him with a knee on the way down. Valtellini had to stop fighting because of head trauma, right? Well, Nikki Holston stopped him.

4:41:37 Yeah, yeah, I've talked about that before, brown belt fights a white belt i'm like i just can't imagine and i know how to stand up and even if i i wasn't good at striking anymore like as i was when i was a kid i'm good enough to know what to That's what I thought. fight Joe Rogan? This is when Fear Factor was on. And he said, yep, I'll do it. Let's do it. And so

4:43:51 I was training with Rob Kamen and I was doing jiu-jitsu. requirement of it but until you i mean the piss-ass amount of training that i was doing in comparison to what it And when it became more obvious that they didn't want money, He was just in desperation mode. Because if I'm doing this, I'm not doing anything else. I was training several times a week.

4:46:04 to box. He used to wrestle. Yeah. I'm serious. dude, if we were in a fight, he would be able to choke the fucking life out of me. And I would friend of mine i had to tell that to a friend of mine who was a grappler i had a buddy of mine who you tap you like you get up your neck is a little sore you're gonna be fine and go to work the next yeah if eve edwards shins you across the dome that's not a fun time that's not a fun

4:49:13 it when they get in a car accident it's that same like buzz yeah like when you see when you see those Yeah, here it is right here. Yeah. I don't remember who it was. And he posted. And he got picked up with that same slam that Tito tried to hit, which just hit on Evan Tanner. Huh. I think he dislocated I have this fucking I believe it. I'm getting fucking confused.

4:52:11 What's interesting is you and I have seen fights from the beginning to the, well, obviously And it's like I'm watching the NBA in the 90s, early 90s. I didn't think I would see, I didn't expect, with it and then eventually the ultimate fighter finale airs stephen bonner and forrest griffin and they become these Pulp Fiction, like, icons, these characters, these Pulp Fiction humans.

4:54:52 whole card's just chaos yeah from top to bottom that's a lot of cards you can get by without what the fuck is this card? It's going to be the same thing. not just in the actual ticket sales itself, the taxes that are generated from the merchandise, And if they decide to just throw a mega tsunami card like this one once a year that The sport wasn't broadcast in New York.

4:57:53 millions of people all throughout the world that are watching something that you can't have in your It's all alleged I mean, all the time that you've been talking about doing this podcast, Sounds good. He has a name I just don't, I haven't lived through how to say it yet. Yeah, it's going to be in Florence, Italy. Alessio Scar is on the card. Yeah.

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