Joe Rogan Experience #20170129 — Fight Companion - January 29, 2017 Transcript

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0:00 Everybody be really careful we don't talk over each other because, um, you know, it's fucking- it's hard not to. There's six of us here. Brendan Schaub and I know all the goddamn results. Yeah the only one Jimmy Burke's here Brendan Shaw We're going to watch the fights. All right, right now we're playing it. Just let it run. Just to the fights. know the result. I love this.

2:04 I love that tie. So the first fight is Alex Caceres versus, what's homeboy's name that he fights? And he's got a really good guard, too. Hilarious So this is kind of a sleeper of a fight. here. Why do they call it the tail of the tape? It's been that for 50 years his fucking legs. Joe asked for my mind. He shot one of my walkout songs down the night before the fight.

4:27 I'm like, oh, shit, what's going on? This is not a bonus. Caceres is super underrated. He's so hot and cold. The difference between what Yair does and Alex does Is he the greatest kicker in MMA history? you know what you gotta see him. You gotta see him against a world-class Muay Thai guy Who's done that? to Jet Li. Before that he got Sunday Taekwondo class

7:11 look at John Jones, look at Conor McGregor He used to be Glory. Oh, Leroy's fucking good, man. Oh, yeah. But Joseph Valtellini just chopped him down. No, I totally agree with you. mutilate him. Joe Valtellini would his leg kicks. But he's landing it, You know what I mean? The reason these things- Oh, that's beautiful. What? Crazy. A card? It's dicks. Yeah.. Someone threw a card in the octagon, man.

10:09 Yes Pulling guard might be part of the strategy. Try to take him down And he's beating you up BJ got chest to chest Paul Sass. It's crazy that people don't pull guards. It's just interesting that he never tapped anybody off his back. Pulled half guard. Yeah, people think pulling guard, I mean, it's like admitting you lost. Night here. Instead of getting the hooks in, he goes straight to the body lock?

12:54 That's a bad place to be, huh? And right here, in the old days, You'd have to look at the guy's back in the battlecade. No one needs a rear naked choke. Oh no, just open hand with that elbow? on the chin these days. He's in the worst case scenario, and he's fighting, and now he's got the lip. By the way, speaking of hitting in the back Hey, Eddie, after... So if someone says you have no taste...

15:06 I'll show you right here. It's the body lock that you're seeing right now. Oh, shit. The other one you use as a butterfly, and you control the leg. So he wants it on the other side, so that butterfly hook keeps your angle. I wonder if you could, Eddie, can you loosen up your Did you say he trains out of Belcher's camp? is parallel with your shin bone.

17:14 So, powerful Jamie, we have... Oh, Brian stayed with it He's dead while he's trying though Oh, shit. I'm not you. It was beautiful. man you talking about as we get older That's real. I've got to do a breakdown on that next week. On Holman. It, tailback. No. Tailback. What? This is the second Heisman lap two years ago. I'm trying to do a breakdown on that next week on Holman.

19:35 I don't believe you. No. But Holly's a kickboxer. She fights so well going backwards. Crazy. Big fan. That's the argument for McGregor versus Floyd Floyd. Did you see it, dude? The next fight Good luck with that Well it is an interesting argument Because it's not MMA It's boxing So if it's a different sport. He has the money to hire the lawyers to try it. Well, it is an interesting argument because it's not MMA.

21:42 Because they don't want to have a third middleman in Dana White. Like comedy. Especially right now. Because it's always been like that in boxing, right? This dude said he's never seen a fight he doesn't like. Get the fuck out of here, sir. This is what I liked about that. And Halleck got through. Did nothing. and had him in a bad spot. Fuck off. and both guys were severely unconditioned.

24:17 but I love the fight. The dynamic of what's happening I hate what the fight was about. Find a backdoor. No, it's not. You know, a guy who's been doing jiu-jitsu for 10 years can get drunk, stay up all night, I mean, if they're the same size, it doesn't matter. if McGregor believes that, he's fucked. He's like, so, we're going to limit it to hands, and you're playing a little game.

26:43 Floyd's never faced a guy that says, listen, this is not even a fight. And that's true. Box with MMA gloves. Well, people have to remember in people. It's a totally different kind of experience. there's some answer that doesn't yet exist. 39 years old now? No. predictable in any way even a ways that he doesn't understand that Floyd will from Floyd, for sure. You have to

29:13 fucking leg trips him, slams him. If you have a choice, what would you rather see them in a straight boxing match with boxing gloves or a boxing match with MMA gloves? it's a whole different game when you're getting around Different games, son. Sometimes he catches things in small little details. between getting hit by something and not getting hit by something.

31:07 He's huge. Did you see his hand next to He's French from Nigeria. By the way, I have a Congo. You gotta go with Kane. A healthy Kane. He's had so many injuries. You just gave away this fight You said No hands, please. Do you have a lot of secret gardens? Giant. When you look down the strip in Vegas, you can't tell how close and far away those hotels are.

33:33 The answer is yes. Because in boxing That double right hand See he's trying to The uppercut's what did him in, I think. Maybe it's some weird shit. Well, it is for Travis Brown. Here. And look where his head position. And Gano's head position is. He knew exactly what was coming. Dude, he you got him. Because you know what it is. Boom! Boom. Right behind the ear there. And look where his head position,

35:19 so he slipped it. Yeah. Give him a chance to recover. Maybe it does, we don't know Well not even in his prime. Brother, he went on a run in the UFC, though. Remember when he starts Paul Buntello with one punch? laser beam straight. he was doing really well what the fuck are you doing in like two weeks I still feel bummed out about it. I watched that like this. It'll make you sick to your up. Maldonado should have I watched that like this.

37:51 They did? In Russia? Russia? Hey, you guys can't talk over each other. I haven't heard it. Oh, that's not bad at all. Head position coming off. Dude, he's terrifying. They can't get his ass down. That was the skill win. Look at him hiding behind there. Hey, Rashad. Just have a shot. I an overhand right planned. Rashad Evans right there. Look at him.

40:19 made those odds? Hundreds of fights. To take down? She has a gun tattoo on her hip. I haven't seen this fight. Dennis Bermudez coming up is going to fight Korean Zombie. The fifth fight or sixth fight that got canceled for Ian. It's not easy to find a good flyweight. because New York, That's fair, too. That's right. Unreal. Is he staying at 85? But he was drained for that fight.

42:56 Look, he has to put on some mass. That dude is still pumping it out in the third round. I thought there was two big factors in that fight. He balances around. And he's super nice. Yeah, he's a killer. He's going to be tough to beat. He's tough to beat. And he's super nice. He was untouched. I think he's overtrained. He just has a better understanding

44:55 When you see guys like Conor McGregor raising that fucking bar, Everybody's accelerated. an 18-year-old named Tony Laramie It was fucking crazy for TKO for Fight Pass in Canada. Like cell phone. There are 18-year-olds right now that are blowing your mind. He is raising everyone's expectations for how someone performs under pressure. telling everybody he's gonna fuck him up

47:10 He was landing that in space, drawing you forward. KO'd this dude with his perfectly placed left hand. You can see his body is built to deliver that power, like getting down with Ido Portal Movement coaches? How is movement bullshit? Like gymnastic natural, All those guys from the freak show, who are out there murking people. You go back to those 1994 Hicks and Gracie videos where Hicks was in Santa Monica standing on a balance bar,

49:52 tiny horse guy. because they have to cut through the mess. He's got a few of these. That's not true. Anyway, we'll fast forward through this shit and get to the cowboy fight. God damn it, bro. Are you still confused? And he's one more example of just like we were talking about with Kelvin. He's relaxed. He's been hesitant in a lot of his fights. That didn't work in the Matt Brown fight.

52:30 No, I'm saying people think Cowboy, I didn't think Cowboy looked that great in that fight. He lost, what, five? punishment in that fight. He did. He definitely And he goes to Mexico, too, doesn't he? So he said it relaxes him. He's not cutting anything. Thank you. Look at this fight. He snuck that switch kick off the left leg. He's trying to to give cowboy novel experiences

54:49 Do it. That would be so good. He comes in clean with that jab, and he also has a real nice high guard, Masvidal. Donald's one of the best leg kickers in the sport for sure Look at Masvidal's leg, though. With the leg kicks, how's he going to deal with it? He also just takes it. People don't understand You know what I'm saying More dedicated Oh, yeah.

57:08 A little bit, yeah. Yeah. He just understands what it is. It's not thrown. That hurt him right there. He got flat-footed there. Drop No Or Rob They should end the fight right there. This is what I want from you, head movement. You don't want him to lose by stoppage. Boom, boom, boom. Man, what a combination. I don't think he should be What do you think the people would want?

1:00:16 Fuck those people, though. It's what's right. He is. He's inviting the kick. And then he goes for the kick. Oz Ross said, you know what happened? a good dude he's very he's a doctor he's's a doctor. Let's see what he says here. That's the real thing right there. and then when that happens and the guy goes, And he just backed up. Yeah, because this fight was made after Cowboy's last win, right?

1:02:47 Too tough for his own guy. Mosby Doll's a monster. I want to see more action I want to see it Wait Herb stopped this fight Because he was done. No, because he has nothing. Yeah, he knew it was a bad place for Cowboy right there. Cowboy losing the number 12 guy in the world. Would never do that. Yeah fighting If your family talks to you and gives you advice

1:04:59 You can do as much heroin and cocaine. should try to protect you from yourself. If they would have stopped Guaranteed, you never know. What do you want to do? But I think what you're saying is true, too. that he doesn't spar anymore in his camps. He does almost primarily drills. endurance down. So I think you're right. He was in a war with a killer.

1:07:01 But in the end, whether you're his coach, you're his best friend, you're his family member, you say what you you get a title shot. Let's do that. Yeah, I agree He wanted to feel it again. He's pretty close to a title shot. When those guys, when Chuck Liddell wins, The downside is to get there. You know what? The UFC is so big, we don't have to, like, oh, we want the sport to be huge.

1:09:11 Yeah, it is a crazy level. with Brendan, but I also agree with Eddie. all when he's supposed to be fighting at 55 for the title. They don't know who the fuck Francis Ngannou is. The heavyweights are always the scariest. He's Chakango. And I want him to grab his cock and, like, But can he get by a guy like Kane? angle, you still need to catch him Oh, yeah.

1:11:43 And he had a pace that no of all time. Yes, I agree. But I feel Kind of legit. No one did. He's trying to fuck dudes in the ass, and he's homeless. God damn it. flying off and it slams against the Tito motioned. fused discs in his neck. So if he Boom. See the way his back foot? was like him in the mountains what the fuck's his name that was Tim Sylvia

1:15:22 But I think that if you go back to Tim Sylvia that He had huge shoulders. and you're mad at me, You should watch that fight after. The testing got significantly harder. The night after the fight. Dude, he was so jacked. He was jacked. He said he took the steroids because they teased him about his body at the gym. But he was jacked back then. And he came out with the American flag.

1:17:29 You can't beg for people to like you. He was like, I'm going to be light, heavyweight champ, and heavyweight champ. He pioneered that Conor McGregor thing. And then they signed a bad motherfucker. Remember when Brandon Vera got on the mic after knocking out Frank Merrill? He was like, I'm going to be light heavyweight champ He stopped training with Rob Kamen.

1:18:15 and systems and systems that they struck under, Amazing. It's legal now. Yeah. He's the everything coach. like really fight you watch his fight with pat militech way back in the day he fucked up pat One of them... And he's seen it all. There was one of them where he was riding this guy's particular kind of freestyle wrestling, so I just I said I'd clean the gym and whatever I could do to help.

1:21:16 You've got to start slow. You have zero to 100. Yeah, I'll go social media on you. March. When Mighty Mouse is in camp? to mimic what I'm seeing guys do. He's up in Toronto. He's really good. Yes. You can't just hope all these guys get along. He has zero... He's like Marcelo Garcia. We never have a problem. in a soccer field. is a great idea. I don't give a fuck

1:23:53 You took a chance with Metamorris. He had some really good level high level guys He's a dangerous, legitimate striker. He's dominating him in the last minute of the last round. Yeah. with the cage at all? I don't remember. That's okay. And there's no obstruction. a football feed. And having that cage There's no other factor. How the fuck would you keep up

1:26:39 I want it on a basketball court 200 people on the floor? The good In a basketball, fuck the floor. Eddie and I are going to form an organization. People are greasing problem there. No one's checking. Sports always change rules and add things to increase the offense. in fighting is can't have their titties out exactly right but exactly but do you think that they should cover

1:28:50 It eliminates the grease. interesting fight here. Really? Wow. Pena, yes. Juliana is tough as fuck. Look at this. no, Pena in the clinch is going to whoop her ass. But that's also the thing, man. It seems like the smart thing Shevchenko probably wins that fight. Hey, here's She took it down again. Yeah, no, she's just getting tripped. Yeah. She's got to stand across.

1:32:18 I mean, it should be. What kind of a cup? I'm pretty sure they do. Like, if you got hit with a knee to the clitoris, I'm sorry for calling a twat earlier, ladies. God, can you punch through the titties? Joe, I heard you say So that you don't take... take her to spider web right here, put that shin behind. Maybe. When men fight, they don't have them wear any specific type of cup, right?

1:34:36 Male. Look at this. What kind of chest protector are these girls wearing? She's trying to go for that arm control. but her core is so strong and her takedowns are so strong. powerfully and have all the, And girls, rather, obviously. a lot of times those guys can adjust really well in takedown attempts and movement. The guard players have a different kind of flexibility, first of all,

1:37:08 Dexterous legs, yeah. So that's why it's better for jiu-jitsu. based on Oh, man. She's fucking tough as shit, man. It could be one round apiece after this one. I'm telling you, man, Shevchenko has some nasty Jiu-Jitsu. She. Well, Jiu-Jitsu's better than Slavinko. Oh, I don't know, Eddie. I'm telling you, man. She played double wrist control going old school.

1:38:46 I have to see the work. No. She gets posture. Oh, my God! I didn't hear him. Who was more wrong than me? She just swung her hips and just fucking went for it. Nunes won a close decision? She's not going to be there. She's going to chew your legs up. going to work. So that was worse than that because I was actually commentating the show. It's her head.

1:41:31 World champ and a mullet? It is a compliment. Like when you were looking at Fedor, of women's MMA, it was and the women are sort of not, you know, you get Betch Cohea, you got Alexis Davis, you're not getting this. He's an iPhone 1. Exactly. Can Ryzen do Cyborg She retires, you trying to see people's Because I think, first of all, Cyborg is probably walking around north of 190.

1:44:41 She didn't like me either. But I was saying it's crazy to try to make this girl go to 35. Look at that fucking moment. And one laughed at the other one. That's Russian twerking. Next chance at 135. Yeah, you might have to wheel kick a bitch. Yeah, that's not gossip. What's that? Ooh. See she waits for the knee And she is not the slightest And we know Eddie Bravo's like, play that back.

1:47:58 She's an athlete, man. We're moving forward. But what she said is so important, I mean, she's a beast, dude. Right? He'll talk to a sommelier He knows the difference way different than they talk about and understand wine now. and then it took a while for them to find their place. When she fought Jessica Pena, And when you see that, you're like, just super high level striking.

1:50:19 and they will come. Wanna watch that hell yeah I don't know if... The new one? You couldn't wait for it? We need a senior tour. So dudes slip on them and shit. You might as well fight on skates. It's going to be like old dude fighting championships. They stare at each other at the bar. The thing about any of those changes you just made, they all change everything.

1:52:36 You change. It's going to be insane. grow you a new eyeball, 100% guarantee. They spray them with stem cells, and your skin grows back in like a matter of a few days. It has to be fresh. Well, maybe. lost your nose. Check this. Check this. Look up there. Eddie, look up there. Eddie, look up there. Look at this. See before after Severe burns. On YouTube YouTube and it's in the library. Oh, it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. You saw this on YouTube or did you see this in the library?

1:55:19 They don't teach Canadians how to read? it's okay. And the reason The eye pokes, They're working on What if every night Everyone was sitting trade. Then no one's cowboy anymore. Okay, but that's not true different thing. I would quit jiu-jitsu and do Muay Thai. Then no one's cowboy anymore. It's better. We're trying to hurt each other. When you're doing enough, you can tap out whenever you want.

1:57:23 just rocked you in sparring. very valuable knife that was given to me Pour me another drink to fight like that, I've only done it with boxing. It's not enough, but it's interesting. and get your head movement so on point that this virtual guy could never hit you and your skills would be super sharp locking up because some fucking Francis And you feel them.

2:00:10 firing, a lot of them, when it's It's just not and what the Navy SEALs telling he's like even we do all that and he moves. a bunch of blue powder all over you. But if you could, Oh, I ripped it off. That's a good idea. Yeah, you give him a bone on the upper arm. It's not that hard. But if you start with no movement, you start with an object, and then later it moves.

2:02:40 Training reactions. Get Elon Musk on it. Teach him how to fight. It comes with a car? It was a horrible knockout. But there's so many promoters in boxing. Canelo has his own. do you know how long it's going to take to make back They sold. Smart dude. Whatever decision Lorenzo wanted, I mean, you got Frank right there, too, but whatever This is the Godfather, you know what I mean?

2:04:59 But then the first episode, If they can keep going like that. Francis Ngannou. I'm very bullish. It transcends cultures. Of super aggro, yes. Not going to happen. You're wrong. Not in the NBA. I'm not moody. Not a team. The guy threw the ball in the hole. He's He's amazing. That's what we're doing. Imagine the odds are higher you're going to do that.

2:08:28 We're going to watch the Dodgers play the Reds. We barely watch the fights. They're going left. Really? All of them. Anybody can get on and make their own companion for any event. Here's what I did. That's tough to beat. Than any broadcast of what? we're probably, where are we at right now, Jamie? Yeah. The one when you got super drunk with Cameron Haynes and went all Tower 7, that's when it was like

2:11:12 Well, what is it on iTunes? On iTunes. I'm talking about YouTube, though. Well, YouTube is not as much. Eddie That's after the fight The recap 6 million downloads Where Cameron Haynes Got one word in No on iTunes I know but how many views Up to 1 million Just so I can get to number 9-11 with Alex Jones. And it's going to be episode 9-11. He's not going to be sober either.

2:12:28 Neither can confirm nor deny. Come on, because Alex Jones is bigger than Everton. You know the weird thing about conspiracy theorists that they can't, they're not even looking at other ways we're getting fucked. No. that they think Alex Jones is a shill So there's guys out there. there's a generalist and a specialist in everything. certain conspiracy theories and it's like, you know, he's got his plan, his agenda to

2:15:29 of being shills all the time because they're not like alex jones has his own agenda i i don't know You've got your time. Circumcision? Hold on. Yes, you can. Eddie, The Economist is a very credible source. I know you do. And the You have to rely on it somewhere. So Absolutely, I would. Two Sides of the Political Spectrum, NPR. Stop, Brendan. and anything that they're pushing,

2:19:04 When you talk about this particular magazine, you don't know anything about it, right? That's the way it goes. Like what are they doing? Let me explain this. We got it. I'm just assuming. You're talking about a long-standing magazine that's dedicated to explaining the economy in very pragmatic terms. Obama's piece in The Economist gets everything wrong.

2:21:38 Yeah, please. position as a journalist Yeah. Is that right? And not so much like, because a lot of like Nicholas Kristof, Because to say that it's all lies, Eddie, is a little extreme. I'm sorry. What if you've been indoctrinated? you who are who are one who doesn't one. One is not run by a profit motive, All competing, by the way. I try to be as well-rounded as I can.

2:25:03 Plus astrology. you guys your own belief systems. And neither of you can see that this other guy just can't understand because I know the truth and he doesn't. I don't think that's fair to compare. to me at all. I change my mind all the Yeah, what was the one that we were talking about recently? It was fascinating. happening. And the biggest fear I love the point of view.

2:27:21 So we have to all be willing to say that, first of all, I don't think all the people in mainstream media are criminal, but you do. killed and you see that you see pictures of them and you see it on you see video of children crying That was a real, legit question. You're mocking it. But I didn't say your brain what you've you've said it many times What do you mean it worked on you?

2:29:30 I apologize. I'm saying that's really bad for everybody and that it's really just like if you if you're still in it if you know your side But when you just blanket throw You, me. Another Glenn Greenwald poll. Now he is an investigative journalist. Who? But I'm saying this is a very good example. But remember, he works for a mainstream... He's a legit journalist.

2:32:31 No. But the bottom line is you should always be a skeptic as are credible news sources because they say, what was the news? No sexual assault history. These checks and balances are in They get found out. But hold on a second. there's a lot of fucking environmental catastrophes that were downplayed by scientists. you gotta be skeptical. like The Economist

2:35:20 like CNN and CNBC, You're being punked. It's a public company. I mean, and paid for, But never when it went, I'm saying. This is for me. There's no proof that the earth is flat. There's no proof that the Earth is flat. There's a weird thing The earth is fucking gigantic Do you know that That's why they piece together The pictures of the earth Because it's a perspective issue Maybe

2:37:33 That's the bottom line We fucking had all the series Like everything we're watching, there's no actual footage. No, no. Oh my God. This is a question. Isn't that weird? There's astrophysicists that worked their whole life on this. Here's the sun. Here's the sun. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. This is, make fun of me with this. Please, make fun of me. No, it's here.

2:39:17 They're all going around. the sun So there's all this shit and then right here's June right yeah Listen, do you guys understand what I'm saying? That's the problem. There's a procession of the equinoxes. every night, slightly different, and it changes over the course of thousands of years. I'm not talking about that. It's definitely not flat.