Joe Rogan Experience #20180114 — Fight Companion - January 14, 2018 Transcript

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0:00 We're live guys. Oh is it live? Yeah. Boom. And we're live ladies and gentlemen. He wanted a picture quick. We're here with the great and powerful Jimmy Smith. Welcome to the UFC Jimmy Smith. Thank you so much. It's great to be here officially. Official. We wanted to talk about it last time when you were on the podcast but we had to dance around it. You and so many people wrote me and were like Joe really? I? I go, hey, man, Joe's a pro.

0:37 He thinks he's at some fucking cocktail party where they're going to prepare scripts. Most likely we'll talk about the fights. Is this St. Louis? Look how good Michael Johnson looks at 45. He had enough of that. But he had like gotten sick, I had heard, during training. But you know mentally was just going through a lot of stress. Yeah, and that'll that'll kill your cut too. Yeah, Robert

2:54 We have plenty of that. Nope. giving this away. Yeah, don't give that away. at the 10 planet holiday party Makes you say some shit. Jimmy Smith, you smoke the reefer? Ever? I have no excuses for my behavior. None. Googly moogly. Six voices he's been training three years or something. There's probably a That's crazy. He wrote Conan, by the way, guys.

5:36 All back and legs and arms. If I don't win, I don't eat, man. He's got real good training. And Ghanou fought Fabrizio story. And Stipe's run has cleared out twice. No one's ever done it three times. No, not jealousy. I always felt like he should have looked like this. People forget he starched Justin Poirier, KO'd him. They're due to usually getting manhandled by somebody who's natural at that weight class

8:55 It's such a crazy fucking sport because while you're training for a fight, 452, 51, 450, 449 are the first round if you're trying to sync it up. He's hurt already. He's getting hurt. Oh, oh, Michael Johnson just tackled him again. And he has a speed. He dangled with that left hand. Elkins relies on his ability to take tremendous punishment in his heart

11:14 There's like 500 tough guys in the UFC. Crazy. I'm happy for you. And then, you know, I go to the airport and I'm bored. It's just bad for your body, man. I love your podcast. This side of the table doesn't drink. It's in the first round, and so far, Michael Johnson's looks smooth as butter. Right. clearly, if they win two aspects of the fight. I think the 10-point system from boxing is goofy.

14:17 how good the defense is. A little cheese, buddy. until someone gets knocked out. Come on. Oh, Elkins gets the takedown. We're going back to this goat thing. Elkins has fought in the UFC forever, and you're going to compare him to Till? Do you know Vinny? Yeah. I'll eat cheese when you won't drink your fucking dirty wine. I don't drink, but I'll have cheese.

16:58 He's a jujitsu black belt, my friend, for real. Oh. It would not be the first time. Oh, he's under the chin! Wow. He got teed off on in the first round. Takes the back. That's a high-level move right there. Because people... Some people feel uncomfortable there because if they spin, now they're on their back but you're on your back as well. Some people feel uncomfortable there because if they

19:19 he had his hips all the way in and what happens You can keep it. He had it locked in. If you can get their choking arm on the other side, like in a baseball grip, He still has the body That's huge. not letting it happen in the first place because in the very beginning in the very beginning of Beast never rear naked choked anybody. If all you think about is a neck crank instead of the rear naked choke, you just focus on the D-sev, you don't need a rear naked choke.

22:22 And then, but you're also, you're also protecting against your neck. Yes, of course, of course. Then the body triangles become very hard to get. And the body triangle and the D set, that's like extra. It just shows how complex jiu-jitsu is. two? inside an arm bar position and you you hook one of the arms and he's defending. We start right there. It's similar, but it's only on the ground.

25:23 Yeah, TKO in jiu-jitsu. Yeah. in the head, Guys are going to be able to take guys out with smacks. We talked about him last podcast, that guy, You know, it was fun. What did he get them on? old school ian freeman and frank meir remember that that was like one of the first times that So leg locks are not used as much because you can get punched in the face?

28:12 Guys are just punching you in the face while you're That's a great one, too. So much faster. Yeah, Donaher Death Squad. I was talking to Chael about the last Abu Dhabi, I need to walk out of here Like, And yeah, Yeah, So bad. It's all true. Holy shit. Yeah. We shot Warrior together, and the last thing he said to me, we had a scene together, and A lot of guys think that way.

31:22 I mean, it is what it is. when you break down what he was, He was. There are a lot of guys that way. Nobody wants to fight Usman. But this Emil Mech guy, Emil Mech is the crazy Viking Nobody wants a piece of him. Man, I feel like he did some bad things in the UFC. hey, don't respect the tech. The other ones were horrible. He kept gouging his eyes. dude,

34:03 yeah, He was working on a farm when he was like a little boy. And then as he got older, made his way into Rio and then found Minotauro School and started learning jiu-jitsu. But definitely was in danger and fearful from the time he was very young. It's an animal in a lot of ways. it. You cannot say, ready, set, go. There's also, you can't just start him because he's going to rip it. But the thing was about the mental state is, you know, they stop and Avalon is furious

36:08 I don't know, man. That ref, though, what's his name, with the I'm never critical, but I remember thinking, I'd want to learn the leg locks. Isn't it a little, it's different though, He would love it and no one would ever talk shit on him. So you're trying to break my skull. It's the same thing. He hit Bisping so hard. I like it Or they weighed in.

39:09 That's right. Sit down, Jack Carrow. Yeah, but remember when the guy says, You are correct. You were doing other stuff. MMA guys incorporate yoga. Who was the last guy Meek fought? What's going to be interesting is And full guard Oh And full guard. Or does he let it go, and this beast is on top of him, dropping elbows? It all depends on his squeeze.

41:42 He's deep. Yeah. Oh, I don't like that. But maybe with that fence, there's something there. if that's what he's trying to do. I'd have to remember, go over my notes. Three-year All-American D2. Same as Ellenberger. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's Can't get that arm over. Going back to it. Yeah. Iceland? Denmark. Look at this. Establish that domination. From Norway. Norway. Nice. Oh. I want to establish. Establish that domination.

44:17 I appreciate it very much. It's a male witch. I can't believe somebody who's into magic and... But how's Mech going to feel once he gets free? Headlock. I want to keep that in front of you. Oh, nice. The characters are all It's like Game of Thrones. But it was just like, But I don't want to notice that I know It's astonishing. This season's the greatest ever.

47:06 Round two. Doesn't look tired. Not fun. Once again, if you're thinking about it... Elbow. Oh, he's reaching a little bit now. Usman does not want no part of that fucking stand-up. Nebraska, Kearney. Nebraska, Kearney. Should have kept that whizzer, right? Mecca went for the submissions He's trying to keep that left hook, or the right hook rather, from getting in.

49:27 Yeah, it is. He's too close to the fence. it's funny Yeah. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't necessarily... He says he wants to spend time working on submissions and only time, like all his time, At stuff that works With a Jacare did to him Fast. Yeah. Did they just? But you also see Usman's strengths, his ability to keep fights going down. See a little bit of that in Mech being a strong, dangerous guy.

52:36 Is it raw? Ooh, that's really good goddamn cheese really? when you see her eating it? Do you scream? Do you yell into the kitchen? Eddie, you're a vegan now, right? Eddie doesn't age. 47. Kind of. A lot of times the ones that don't look bad slam the cup right into your nuts. Our boy is scoring with these shots. Hammering with those elbows Yes past That pressure's crazy.

55:53 Very interesting. He'll be able to get a few guys that'll step in. Him versus Mike Perry would be very interesting. Darren Till is a wizard. He's a huge guy. He's big and real technical. Really interesting guy. So it really prompted me to go watch some of Till's fights How tall is Till? He said it. Big slam. Well, the big one to me is the stand-up.

58:57 Yeah. but this is a real strong dude that doesn't have any one overwhelming feature to his game. He learned a lot tonight. He was a guy who's not super-duper slick on the ground. He's right there with him. Thank you, sir. There's one more. So do I. Well, I was already a fan when I listened to you on Rogan's. I love that about you. There's some guys doing commentary right now.

1:01:58 Super nice guy. Got to see it. I mean, he's number 10 now. Usman, I know it's... He's no picnic. Not like Khabib. Let's just make this work out, baby. He's a nasty southpaw. See, I would love to see that. I want to see Kelvin 10 immediately he's ranked Whitaker. But not a lot of time. Oh, okay. Yoel side kicked his knee and hyperextended it, going on in that knee. So he's going to have

1:06:05 He's all quiet. The Alberto Crane fight. apple damn but alberto crane great jujitsu Alberto Crane, great jiu-jitsu guy. I'm going to stop this fight. grappler. Who is this? I don't know. Okay, so that makes sense with the enemas. I got a clean butthole. He's right now showing you. Yeah, that's all I'm going to say. It was awful. awful for folks listening at home

1:09:13 And it is, I brush my teeth That's got to be bad. So there are different things. And, oh, by the way, Wow, that's interesting. But liver disease and diabetics sometimes. That sounds awful. So check this out. Yes. She just puked. The minute't puke on him. She just puked. It was that bad. If your breath stinks I'm going to tell you I once got a head from a girl.

1:13:01 And I didn't have the fucking courage to tell her. She's looking at me, I was like, That's so good. There's a problem. That's not going to be the reaction. and... I feel like the And then she began to give me oral pleasure after she was, I'd gotten her kind of naked. It started with the back, and it was on the old rumper, still skins. No, I'm kidding.

1:15:15 I did pull out a medical book on one girl, though. freak from that point on. And you know what? And she screamed. Like a group of guys. Paige Van Zandt loves that jump and switch kick. Ooh, nice leg kick. wild leaping in shit. Well, I mean, you know. But she got tagged. Oh, Paige is in trouble. Brian, you're hilarious. Edge of brav. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:17:44 Now, here. It's much more serious. As long as she. Paige is in trouble. Yeah. Three has an arm triangle, but it's hard to finish standing up. You can do it. Now here, it's much more serious. She's off. It's not tight to her neck. She wants her right arm to underhook her neck or head. Damn. Yes, I brought it back recently. It's so much pressure on you.

1:19:25 necessarily fighting it's gonna happen eventually wrestling And Clark has not really advanced any further than this one position where she keeps trying to get this head and arm choke. keep her arm trapped, but you've got to pass the guard. Yeah. There are submissions from half guard. Yes, yes. It's a crazy... What's the separating thing? Like on top in half guard.

1:22:28 But his was from the top position, right? This is different. This video came from that search. I'm jealous of... Did he? Beautiful. You could go there. Yeah. Learning how to, like, slip a jab. LA is crazy. I'd be cheating on Eddie if I went to Colorado. It's crazy. Eddie the Innovator. You do work hard. Oh, full mount. Triangle. Should be a dunce. Now she's fucked.

1:25:50 regular triangle oh she's got to pull her head what page is doing right there is a good move Just pulling her head. Oh, shit. This girl doesn't go to sleep. You got time. Okay, someone's wanting it. Maybe that's because I'm an old man. You've got ten seconds. There was a Ben Saunders fight. Look at his transition. You know what I mean? let the guy breathe again.

1:28:22 She's a little beautiful savage. Well, you got to do what you got to do. That wasn't a hard sell either They can wait I just got that flu. I had that flu for like, you know what? This don't feel normal. Fuck. So important, man. Sounds like it's from the Himalayas. It tastes like with trace minerals. Sounds like it's from the Himalayas. to it, meaning she throws her arms into it

1:30:41 when she's coming to that kick. on that feeling. basics. She's going to it again. And you watch when she does it, who is a KO artist. and it's an unusual move. I don't even care if it lands looks good to looks good. She did it again. Oh, left hand behind it, though. She's trying to win by knockout. Yep. Paige Van Zandt Yeah, the left. She's holding for? Yeah, she tore her corner after the first round. Which arm? Must be the left, right? Yeah,

1:33:00 She must have got kicked with something? Oh, damn. Oh, it's her right arm. Remember Rich Franklin, Chuck Liddell? Yep. Thanks for the cheese. Then I'm in that at the DC Empire. Really? Beautiful. They'll take care of it. Bullshit. He asked what the man of men was And How do you not know this? He's like, dude, I'm too sick. Fully stock. No. It's a monster.

1:36:39 what the new Challenger looks like, right? Well, you know what they're doing that's really interesting now? It's from 2018, which is crazy. And it's a 1968 Mustang, but it's just some fucking beast fuck electric engine. Fuck. And then they saw the replay like, oh, okay. Corey Hill and Anderson Silva, those two leg breaks. And then, I forget who he was fighting, was on top of him, hitting him.

1:39:03 There's Corey. That Ingano knockout. Fuck, man. They gave me the tour. and it's like an NFL thing where you can write notes and circles down to like 240 degrees below zero and then up to 170 degrees above zero you can go hot cold See, I think I cut to the screen. And it's like some sci-fi movie with this big egg comes down over you. So last week, I'm on your podcast and I can say it now,

1:41:47 Oh, that seems familiar. Yeah, and hey, congratulations to our boy, Big John McCarthy. Oh, really? I didn't know he was living in Vegas. He's not on a strip going to fucking Hakkasan every night. You know, I mean, you talk about a guy who's seen literally every major fight. fake discs in his neck and then And every grappler should get one of these.

1:43:48 But a lot of the different things that people create And then you're pulling on that bungee cord. I love it. I put that fucker on, and I go through a whole series of Stevie Wonders. Because I was always doing a lot of head and arm chokes on this side. It's not Johnny Hendricks. Sorry, fat guy. is like one of the best methods I've ever found of, You don't mean to.

1:45:56 You can either have it on a bungee cord, or some people put it on one of them cable machines. Oh, I mean, to not have them is weird. building up all that muscle in the And I like to sleep on my side. i'm in love with it i've seen that it's called i've seen that it's called medcline started lifting heavy again I went into So he did it. Remember that program?

1:50:05 just got the prescription for that last week all i gotta do is go in now i'm gonna go get that And he's coming off of that fight against... Right? Crazy. Boom. Woo! going to the Korean army though for a while? let them put that shit off nope two years baby sacrifice do ho choy here we go baby No one else is messing with them. Yeah, they signed a ceasefire.

1:53:14 What the fuck, man? Do you know how you have that thing when you're getting a phone call It went to the whole state. You know that's a state that's been hit before. Jeremy motherfucking Stevens. And he's looking forward to this fight, too, stylistically. He looks like such a wolf with that crazy beard. Like you used to have to shave your beard. I mean

1:55:37 Ooh crazy if you can do it it's worth it what. What's interesting is what California's doing. There's a bunch of guys like Marlon, like Marlon Marais. Yeah, chin's up. two or three times, He's super on top of things. Two in a row. So they're weighing guys when they weigh in, and you're 20 pounds over? It's not out of the realm of possibility. 135. You won that title? Right.

1:58:52 Yeah, it's really good. Jeremy Stevens can take it, too. He's a fucking savage. Ooh! That last one was strong. not just world title fights, but main events, too. like by the time you get there, 10 weeks, and you're starting to get into, I had this camp for a five-round fight. I mean, it's five rounds harder for eight weeks, ten weeks. And you're starting to get into, I had this camp for a five-round fight.

2:01:18 Really a killer. Yeah. Which referee was that? Oh. Who the fuck is more savage than Jeremy Stevens? when the guy's got a right hand like that, and he's not hesitating. Oh! Well, he took it well in that cup. throwing some off-speed punches to close the distance. Oh, he tagged him! Done. Done. Oh, that's it? That's shit. Oh, my God. Done. Oh, he just broke that guy's back.

2:04:03 That's beautiful. Fuck, that was awesome. That's impressive. Snapped him back with that one. That's the one right there. Fuck. What was it? Yeah. Max Holloway. You know, you got to think with a KO like that, he's like one, maybe two fights outside of another possible shot or a possible shot at Max now that Max has the title. So much fun. one in a long time. Yeah. Because once again

2:07:14 What do I do with the lighter? That's interesting. next fight let's see it the right guy It does. The leg toss. They showed the big shot, but they didn't show it It was before Yeah the one big one The big one The leg toss It's right here Chucks him to the side I feel like he's at the top of the heap now That you have Yeah there's so many guys man Rob Font and Thomas Almeida Is a good it. Yeah, there's so many guys, man.

2:09:38 Well, I'm doing the pre and post for 220. Oh, okay. I don't know if it's official yet. Not that I'm aware of. Here's the deal. But the difference between color and play-by-play is we're specific to a particular sport. and there are only so many. And they don't forgive you either. something stupid. That was terrible. So he had, but Eddie had a real system.

2:12:27 They go to me. I have to talk about what happened happened. Because you forget. what I was talking about. I gave When I did post-fight interviews once, I said congratulations to Randy Couture. What? 100%. Jim Brown football? And the place And the guy goes Yeah for weeks But we've all done. Oh, man. It's like the brain is just not a perfect vehicle.

2:15:44 He's like, yeah, but this is my second one. So you're saying, congratulations, Chuck, and then leave, and you're like, how did I do that? Yes, yes. And it happens, man. Before I go out there, I will write it. Like like if it's a dude I've never seen fight before. I'll say it back. That's it. and then any young people that are thinking about getting into MMA commentary,

2:18:10 I saw some beautiful things i hated post-fight interviews that's the i never enjoyed that shit the flip side of that though You know, if you don't say, you know. what i'm saying yeah but i even then i still sometimes i fuck that up you know it's just You're doing a good job. I like sitting here. They don't know. The problem in MMA is that the color guy is the martial arts expert.

2:20:30 Disformation is kind of it. he would say you know something like that and then he would just lay it up for me and then i would by planet color guy the producer didn't know the difference because once I started really listening I thought they were both experts. I don't want to be the play-by-play guy. To the producer. Don the Dragon. I have no idea.

2:22:58 And then you did some shit for Pride, too. that Sakuraba was never going to submit Henzo. It's never going to work on him. Really good striker, but, you know, pitter-pat kind of striker. It's almost like the universe is punishing you for hubris. Oh, dude, I forgot about Vasconcelos. Yeah, I was there. And Don the Dragon, I never stopped him and and i would just throw those in that's how we're talking about just having fun

2:25:37 He was begging me to stop. We're all where we want to be. I want to watch it and just relax. He's like, hey, we'll fly you out. I'm like, you got to see this guy. Amazing, amazing fights. for a couple shows like the history of boxing is an amazing history right but boxing from 1994 and boxing from 2017 Jack Johnson might be able to beat a lot of modern day heavyweights.

2:28:27 athletic not that good kind of okay he'll fuck a lot of people up and then he would start making And I'm going to be fucking a lot of white chicks. It's Roots of Fight shirts with him with his wingspan on the front of the shirt. In order. No internet. Still had the commercials in them. And I literally said, I said all these things he didn't understand me and i said looked at him i said rumino sato

2:30:51 Yeah. they had the internet there. sneak into the offices and go into That was a website for MMA. but there was no internet. Yeah. That's interesting. You know, there was a big hardcore movement, I got paid 150 bucks For my first fight or something Oh damn My coach was Fabiano Iha We're fighting in the back. And I was like, how big you were. everything I have

2:33:37 And I hit him oh, okay. All right. This just works. that was my first fight. And I was like, okay, all right. Like after Hoyes, Because you find out real quick that style is thicker than blood. Oh, shit. All right. pain. None? I'm very, very lucky. Ooh. It's like the seventh time it's happened The Thirsty White People video Now give me some volume so we can all hear it.

2:36:07 Whatever. Go ahead. Do it again so people can hear. Because you got it too low. More like a big hunt. That better? The big birds. What? The big hunk. Okay, do it again so people can hear because you got it too low. Good. I take eugenics No How does he say no? That's what dudes say when they say, what happened? That's a thirsty white people commercial.

2:37:57 Yeah, that was a crazy commercial. Slow the fuck down. Showed some good goddamn wrestling, though. I mean, it's only six days away from today. God, I think it's huge. I think it's Yeah. It was like wrestlers just started doing it. Is it necessary? I teach these guys all the time. That's a nice suit. As in? If you see that one that's on paul or if you

2:40:55 Nice. Why? fucking thought i was and he goes thought you were joe dude and i was like no he came in with I apologize. I was at my mom's house. She was making me dinner. I get this shit fucking 50 times a day on the internet. With people that know the sport. I love John. But it's a different perspective. That's perfect. Mike's easy to work with. Look, we need more work for a lot of guys.

2:44:07 You know, Brian Stan was one of my favorites favorites i was bummed out when brian left yeah he he prepared better than I've got to sit there and study them, which is a totally different job. Well, it's all the things I do live. That's one of the things that people would freak out about. I just wanted to be able to go, this is what's critical in this fight.

2:46:17 about what did i write down rather than the i tell people i go never play by play do of course And he opens 15 seconds. It has to mean something to you, and you have to know what you're talking about. You've got to clinch all. So they either use fights that they've already used and you're going, oh, I got to think of something. fights in a fucking night, man.

2:49:10 Oh, my God. It's a famous thing here in California for the listeners who weren't around. MMA rules by saying that it was fake. Yeah, a movie. Yeah, that it was a movie. And on the back, it had the fight card on it. Do you remember that? The cops showed up. That's right. And they had to like records until they eliminated him this is a famous do you remember that the cops showed up

2:50:14 and so crazy We were both really cool. We'd be going back and forth. And I'm happy everybody knows that. You are too, man. And Eddie Bravo, you're pretty beautiful too. Oh, did they schedule something? No. I went to a party five days after my surgery. No. I've had both. I think he got MRSA. was way quicker healing uh way less invasive and neither one of them give me problems today

2:53:58 I would do that. Simi Valley Right And maybe you could bring Yeah, get that shit fix. It didn't look like it was gonna pop back in the last two times that happened in and you'll be doing, I'm sure you'll be doing a ton of rehab. Welcome aboard. Don't miss it. They'll find it.