Joe Rogan Experience #20231021 — Fight Companion - October 21, 2023 Transcript
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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day I don't care what anybody says. leon's a bad motherfucker you know without a doubt. So you can't say he's washed up, but Hamzat, I've been on his hairy Dagestanian nuts for Both hairy as shit. Too much of a cut for him. He's a big boy. He's so big. We really haven't seen him against a Cannoneer or a Strickland or any top dogs in the 85 competition. That's what I'm saying.
2:26 Was 85. He's so big. Very interesting fight. The checking of that low kick was so important. Also, he's so crazy and outrageous that people dismiss him as not being good. What's Strickland's takedown defense? You know, when you think about it, that's what you're really doing in a fight. They have the odds out. a great fight. But I don't think Israel
5:16 You're talking about in three years to be that active? to get him up for the fight, to get him excited. Like, when you're the main event, when you're the top dog, when you have the belt, you have a different obligation as far as selling the pay-per-views. Islam's doing all these interviews. Yeah. kamara does not strike me as the type of guy who ever gets out of shape.
7:15 You've got to worry about Kamaru's knees. I love Kamaru, but when – I think the last time I checked – is coming off this truck. His knees are bad, so he can't kick. Wouldn't you say? He did. are we doing a thousand you're doing a grand you You're taking Kamara? I'm taking Kamara. Okay, now. Now we got Islam Volk. Here's the difference. weight he's fully hydrated also to your point be remember now the last fight was in america
10:28 I wasn't aware that it was that much extra time. I don't like it. Same day wins. they wind up being really depleted and they fight anyway because they're just tough. I think they do, actually. I think that's a new thing. No, there was this talk about... they don't care. If you make 55 If you can get a guy to agree to not rehydrate correctly, go ahead.
13:08 Yeah, he was 180 plus pounds. 85 is rough. But kudos to UFC. set of backups. They have guys that will weigh that have a fight just in case they don't need Contractually they have to fill with big fights. Mmm. That's why you got these big dogs on that makes notice There's no way. So, over there, they Yeah, you can't just fight here. That gets super dicey.
15:19 He might do that. kick knockout. His wrestling's not great. I'm sure. They really fucked up. He's not on anything. His lawyer said he's the most tested fighter of all time in the UFC as far as Conor McGregor. Like bow down to Conor and then they said it was a money issue, which we know it's not. His lawyer said he's the most tested fighter But can we agree, USADA's
17:35 And you gotta report 365 days a year And I'm like, I like that guy. Yuri's got such a wild style. First fight This fight's brought to you by manscaped, his back. I'm voting against him. cock well you live in LA is it crazy that Columbus fucked up and called the This guy. Don't be mad. Oh, he dives his head right in there. as soon as you have one arm around your neck yeah you got to address it you have one arm around your
21:14 You can't stay there. Yeah. You're getting tapped out? Did you fuck his name up? No. He has a Pitbull rescue. He's a comic. rolled with him, you were in jeans and just grabbed him and just get raped. You talking about Andy Varela? But you don't even train, so why You just want to let everybody know you've been rolling. He becomes more and more Asian every day.
23:21 Again, I don't know what's going on there. With Usman and Leon, it was like he's winning four rounds. It's a tough sell. Well, he has a hard time getting to 35. He's the perfect amount of weight. I get it. Built him up. Because he goes over and fights that dude. Cosmo Alexander. God. And the only fucking kickboxing event that I've ever commentated, you didn't watch it.
26:11 No, no. Gigantic. Artificially created in the lab. His kicks are outstanding. Yao Ming. Dude, that guy fucked everybody up. What's he weigh? I saw 6'11 somewhere, but this says 6'5". Ernesto Hoost. I wasn't aware of this. Nuts. You just finding out about this? NFL. I know he was going to fight. Oh he's the most skillful heavyweight boxer Who hits harder?
29:16 They sat me next to his family, and when he was walking out, I think Francis needs to throw Kasha the win and Homer Simpson and just... No. Rematch. A bunch of Sam and Meg loves. You'll break your hand. Dude, it's just more gangster. Because what happens is you- There's a chick who's double chipped. Double champ, bare knuckle, double champ female, Britain heart.
31:23 That's the sport where you almost guaranteed to lose some teeth. Oh, come on, man. Look at that. Well, they're not getting top tier commentators. All right. I was like, is Makachev fighting already? No, I don't. I'm telling you the truth. He used to be a badass wrestler. What? your country a little bit. I think there's probably some long And did they say his voice was
33:59 Do you have any idea They traveled in blimps back then that's uh the history that's been erased people were traveling all over the world Dude, I'm telling you. They said, we have to make it this tall. Well, no No, who was Jim Morrison's dad? Tell him. Dude, I never liked The Doors. When I grew up, B? Did you know that? You ever heard him sing live? But that's why he rebelled from his dad. No wonder I didn't like, dude, I never liked The Doors.
36:22 Oh, I hated that shit. Can we play it on YouTube? As soon as he just... Dude, you're the star. Wow, Eddie. Eddie, he was very talented. Weird Scenes on Laurel Canyon. It was all CIA. You think Jared Leto? That guy lives in Lookout Mountain I don't want to believe Why would you buy it? of property A-list actor. No other Back in the day. And I listened to-
39:31 How do we know you kidding? deep into manipulate the population. I just got it. That guy's like When I get Now I don't have to worry about someone killing me. I hate headphones so much because I hate my own voice, I like it. You look very good. Yeah. See, it fucks. I keep hearing that GSP. Before I would have like a little protein bar, a little shake, thinking that was an
42:34 Now, empty stomach, a real empty stomach, My first meal is around three or four, but I might do something late before I go to bed. fucking savage in the morning. A little popcorn. We jam. I will never refer to the scamdemic as a panda that is That's what it was about. He's been hit with a gag order. I think they're trying to keep him out of the election.
45:19 That's fucking insane. Do you see the picture of his chin? It just gets worse. That guy won, dog. That guy won Like Sam Tripoli Is it possible? They could make- simple you just look at what he's wearing on his neck. No, no, no. See? combo tattoo That guy right there? Oh, he's massive. Makachev, I want the Khabib. You've got to get rid of that mustache, Don.
49:17 Are you taking it? What do you mean? every time I look in the mirror, I've lived a good life. My hair is gone. when are you just going to shave that shit off? And now they're turning 40. Dagestanian genetics. You know what, Jed? One day you have a Mike Gamoco romance. It's okay. Because they were the elite. I would wear that wig. your wig was we need that term big wigs it's like by the fryer today people
52:49 Since I started doing supplements, like just regular supplements, my hair got thicker. Watch this. Guys. It's not cool. That was so weird. That's why Maynard is so crazy his name of his vineyard is merkin vineyards his caduceus vineyards, but merkin to were considered, like, no class. you feel it on your dick, the stubble. You're getting your pussy cooked.
55:33 The butthole's worth it! putting it all in a fucking powder and girls are pouring asbestos and on babies on their babies He hits so fucking hard, man. I'm taking a huge dive. And Johnny immediately went to that inside low kick the same way that Jan was. and then he hits you with that fucking calf kick He's so skillful, man. Calcified when you get those little micro fractures all up the side of your shin and then you calcify all that shit
58:28 He tricked everybody. He's blocking these, though. He's trying to Khabib him. 205. You've been respecting Dana Does he get disqualified or does he get Here they're gonna show it here right yeah once the booze came out he was on this wig kick yeah 20 minutes he Are they going to call the fight off? Why are they calling the fight? And you know, every fighter knows they're going to call the fight.
1:01:48 Everyone wants to fight. Too many black suits in there. Unless there's an issue Yeah, he's like, I don't know, Middle East somewhere? They should let him keep going. And he fucked him up, and they stopped the fight by a TKO. the doctor's advice, due to an unintentional foul, Terrible. You gotta give the guy Let the guy recover He wasn't that out of it
1:05:01 He probably thought, what country are you from? You don't stop it. that who you bettin on uncle F yeah you might have one yeah he's the big Yes. Strong words. But I did call Dylan Dennis. In a way? They are a lot of guys do they look like they're on death's door and in New York They were furious also because Kevin Holland and Hamza got in a fight, Look, the guy's big.
1:08:08 When you look at Duplicy, Jared Cannoneer, who used to fight heavyweight. I mean, Strickland's not a big 85er. D-Rod is a striker. He took it. He took the fight because of the elite dude i i think if he stays on the path that he's on and that path is he's loving those are the scariest guys. He shows he's got hands. Bo Nickel just said, well, we'll just restart in the center.
1:10:25 You see his match with Gordon? Love Gordon. Well, you know. I'm pumped about this. It's smart. There's as legit as it gets. He wanted to fight the UFC. He was like, no, man, not in 10 days. Well, you know. Look at him screaming. I agree with you. Do you just want to hit? No It seems like if I had one in front of you See Homsop picking up DC when they saw him in the hotel?
1:12:08 Well, he's tall. I'm going to make it. I don't see him in shorts. You good? Been building up my truck, my TRX. Hook Thieves. Jar of Flies. oh yeah spotify would be good i i will not sue you if you play it. I will not sue you. It's about the border. That's a heavy video. El Coyote. I love that dude. Look at that arm. Ohio State's up by seven. I'll bet you on that.
1:15:20 I don't know what's going on over there. Wasn't he D1? And you know what? Estonian. Doesn't have to worry about getting sent to some prison somewhere. Okay, they actually did it. You know, why do you know why? educating Well, Iceland has... Usman's going to win. What the fuck is about to happen right now? Yeah, Usman is a real champ. We're going to find out a lot right here.
1:18:33 This is a lot of energy being expended here. a lot let's see here oh one hook he's wearing him dude he's got his ass and also he's putting This is real bad. He can't fix this today. It's a lot of energy for Hums out there. Does he have a body triangle, Joe? I know, but he's an MMA champion. Damn, that's... So you gotta wonder if Hamzat, or excuse me,
1:20:54 What we're learning here as well shit. You know what I mean? No, he knows. You got the guys back. There's like books on this. Almost. Hamzat on his name 3 He's fine. Yeah, buddy. We learned that Usman is hard at rear naked choke. That's what happened. If Usman survives another He's really good with his hands from both positions. With those bad knees.
1:24:54 Hazmat. What did he go? Comzat's not making a lot Doesn't look it. No. No, he looks a lot bigger. work his legs out. man, he'd be unstoppable. wrestling is no fuck what do you say that Brian because I'm just the first And then Kamzat is looking But striking-wise, You think about it. He's open about his knees. There you go. Comzat gets hit, dude. When he went, oh, I was like, here we go.
1:28:36 And that's huge. Well, I'm saying striking-wise, Kamara's not hearing a peep out of it. Hold on to him there. He's getting beat up. I'm very happy. Basically, we see the level of wrestling in that area of Russia is comparable to collegiate wrestling. I go, how's it go? He goes, I've never lost. Yep. Speaks well. He's great on Kamau's got to really throw caution to the wind here
1:31:01 And he got a bag. Correct. He's not doing anything with striking. He's not... Well, we learned that when he fought Gilbert Burns. His striking is... He's not doing anything Also, the game plan could have been just You know what? Kamaru's digging in. Oh, shit. It's a whole league, huh, Joe? Kamaru's digging in. It's just Leon Edwards is fucking good, man.
1:32:53 Oh, oh, oh. College wrestler getting taken down by some Russian. Can you imagine if Usman had a crazy guard? That's a crazy matchup, man. That's a great matchup. I hope you read the comments. You know what? He has that half guard. 20 seconds, though. Yeah. It'd been better for Hamza fighting the bigger guy. Tremont's got his hands full at 85. Paulo Costa and a better striker jeremiah's got his hands full uh yeah a lot more power too yeah much more power not a better
1:36:31 He's kind of legit. Okay, he controlled him, but he didn't do anything. It's a full package. who is? and those guys Neither is Marvin Vittori. decision no majority decision so one was a draw no majority so three zero no that's unanimous If you're on shrooms, yeah, for sure, second round. Good for him. If you're in a tournament with him are they going to talk to kamaro too they should it looks like they're going to there's enough time
1:39:58 have confidence You don't think? But Usman goes back down to 170 with some fucking reinvigorating fucking force. Sometimes I try new words I'm not sure about. Yeah. I was barely paying attention. Look, look, look. I think Eddie's trying to borrow money from you. That's another story. Come on. It's just a joke. And you always involve your hips in every strike.
1:42:26 They're probably a little bit Who's funnier than Paulo You know that juice thing? Do we know what drug-free sports protocol is? Fuck it. It's probably the same deal is like when they found out that the FDA signed off on Oxycontin like who? And Darren Till was like, I'm going to remove myself so I can take these supplements. Now, I'll defend a little bit here.
1:44:40 Like when Strickland barely got touched in that fight. We're not adding slaps. Valley Tudor. But it's a spectacle. It's not even a sport. Listen, I put myself through college that way. That's a Will Ferrell movie, Don. The hype trend on Hamzat has slown down a tad. 29, 27, 29, 27, 28, 28. 28-28 is bullshit. say that how do you have to say that no no but but why is okay i miss because the idea is that
1:47:12 27-30 is legit. That first round could have been a 10-8. Also, look at takedowns in control so total strikes you got to deal with the Total strikes, 107 to 58. fighter Chamayev was. We're not as But eventually, yes. Yes. And he takes it because he's an animal, but it's a five-round fight. right when he's got a full camp yeah we're gonna see you know we really don't know what i mean
1:50:28 gabby he's on another level dude he's very funny and and most people don't even know the funny What don't I know? Just Craig Jones is a genius. Yeah, you're that good at submissions and setting things up, man. jones i was like i didn't even like craig jones like steve jones like chris like, I didn't even, like, Craig Jones, like, Steve Jones, like, Chris. Like, I couldn't even remember his fucking name.
1:52:03 Fiona Davies is. check I do I'm bringing you I'm giving you a purple bow low seat you know to for some reason but my shit's grandfathered in. Volk is still another one just made of different stuff. He was like, no, I'm good. champion do you start telling him at that time like like to get used to the crowds and you're Concentrate on the process and the results.
1:55:02 There's going to be stadiums. Dude, this is like Not at the level he's at. He got Craig Jones as his coach. realistic it doesn't take a lot of damage yeah he's just he's one of the greats of all time Looks like that the Joe Pesci of like 300, you know what I mean? Wake up and smash. That guy is loving the pressure. Now, let me ask you this. I thought you had a $1,000 bet.
1:58:43 And he's more hydrated. We all know I love Volkanovski. I took a hundred bucks Volkanovski. If he wins by submission, Brendan wins. He's hilarious. Yannis is great. I'd rather have Volkanovski win, though. Yeah, at welterweight. Open up a school, just loop that knockout. I like that. I love when Volk stuffs them. Hold on, look at this. Look at this.
2:01:32 take him down. Yeah, he is. He said don't talk shit on Abraham Lincoln. But he landed a couple of good knees there. kick but like a 45 degree angle some guys throw it at a 45 oh no they use the ball of their toe they used to do that in It was amazing. Shin to the dome son. And he was throwing that kick to the body, and then he threw the same kick to the head.
2:03:56 have very well could have i mean what he what he did look at that dude they love each other Look at this. What a fucking head kick. He's out of it. We thought this was bullshit. Everybody thought that. Years later. you ain't bruce lee you ain't jackie chan yeah you try to head kick in a real a real fight you're all over the world, right? He just got caught in the top of the door.
2:06:25 That's the greatest celebrity of all time. Stop the war Need more of that, that's awesome These people are just... He really made adjustments I agree. From the placement of the knee You knock out Volkanovski, shit. I should have. Did he announce that? Let me hear the volume. So please keep me busy. Not only was it classy, but you know how some people go extra classy just to seem classy?
2:10:56 yeah i hate when guys do that what's like that influencer fighting they go if this was a real I need to fucking pay the rent. so I really shouldn't talk. Dude, come on. You can't ignore his technique, Joe. When he hits bags, it's sad. I can't see it. Dude, his technique is undeniable. the shit okay maybe no no seriously seriously maybe maybe that's bullshit okay you don't
2:13:34 But I'm scoffing. You could do it. be like during the depression he was an old man but let me see his physique at 50. show me a clip Who is the shady promoter? Is that what it said? I want to see some fighting scenes. realistic fighting scenes actually went from bruce lee like if you look at bruce lee he had the most realistic fighting actually from Bruce Lee
2:15:52 It's just not easy. No. No, but not till later on. Look at this. Boom. Terrible double leg. They're fighting in a fucking garage and shit. They're filming it like you're there watching it. Who do we put our money did they not have enough money for different sounds didn't know what that they weren't that creative Did he check the cash? left foot kick him why you uppercut i i feel an uppercuts coming up right here i think he cheats
2:19:37 I'm the old guy with the tricks up his sleeve, see? This shit probably never existed. Dude, that's like fucking Wild West. 1800s, early 1900s, and Carlos, boom, Helio carlos gracey learned his jujitsu from my ada and then carlos gracey showed it to his brother helio No. Look at this. When did you find out about this? Wow. he was like an alcoholic he was a partier banging bitches or whatever so they just decided to cut him out. The story is
2:23:39 It's in Robert Drysdale's book. and a bodybuilder's body. So they decided to not mention George Gracie ever. exculpatory? I learned that from the the black sheep they hated it like there was like a rift in the family you know you got people in He might be. Dude, it's a fact. family like where they came Helio was the one going out there throwing down.
2:26:53 He looks like Nick Davis has one eye. But at 185 pounds when he can't on it and then if you go down now leagues there you go Go all the way back. Watch this, dude. Do you call him the pirate? Got to have a new. I mean, every time he does it, he screams so loud. Warms up. Because they used to be smooth operator. I heard Bruce Buffer so much that when I got hired to do some fight choreography for Never Back Down 2,
2:30:19 Everything Bruce Buffer did and as long as I kept like trying to do impersonate bruce buffer that i was like class fight yeah dude this dude is slick he does a lot of stuff that's very He fought 10 fights like that. That's how much of a badass he is. Against world-class fighters, dude. Caught him with that side kick coming in. His switch kick to the front leg is so good.
2:31:59 Ask for the man with the red beard, but we're in Dagestan. that sidekick to protect himself? That's such Yep. Yeah, he's a unicorn out there. He's very good dude He's like the crow. Yeah, they'd roll back in his head. Well, it's good, though, because you can watch them all. And I'm like, bad damn. Crazy. Imagine living in a world is good. I may have been
2:34:39 you hear people breaking their dick my buddy broke his dick reverse cowgirl on yeah dude so like and It was tragic. It was all from Reverse Cowgirl. That's so... 85. Dude, the hair doesn't move. Oh, damn. Damn, that was good. I thought you knew. Yeah, we fucked you. time mr when mr t fought him the first time. He forgot who won? And I made him watch it when he was like four and five and six. He don't remember shit. He don't remember because i because i made him watch he's 11 now and i made him watch it was like four and five and six you don't remember you don't remember from those days
2:37:54 Dude, he threw a fucking hook kick. this kid's talented. He's fucking good, dude. He's a wild boy. and i don't think anybody ever stopped bruno i'm pretty sure he's never been stopped He just keeps them off balance. he throws with his kicks his distance control is impressive it's very good especially this early divisions like I the kids good but look at how he's beating him up off of his back watch this
2:40:40 If the guy on top is trying to stay on top, keep it on the ground, then it's easy to throw elbows because they're for the guy on the bottom. so he's open for elbows. Man. Does this dude, with all the kicks in his arsenal, does he have an upkick oh yeah he's gonna have a kick I haven't seen her like he Like, oh, he just threw a kick off his back. First one was in Japan.
2:42:27 That was Brock Lesnar's MMA debut. scenario is you get taken out on a stretcher in a neck brace and he was nothing worse than that Tit. We were hanging out He's a Japanese comedian, Johnny Morton's trying Johnny Morton was all probing. Oh, my goodness. Not me, baby. The second one, the only reason I thought about that is Hoyce was on his back a lot, and Sakuraba was standing, just like the first fight.
2:45:39 He had some awesome... I gotta go boys No You have literally It's F1 weekend. Why didn't you coordinate? I think it's F1. All right. We're coming to St. Louis. It is something to call in Chicago. It's an hour We love you.