Joe Rogan Experience #2025 — Dave Smith Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Great time at Mothership last night. Fun. Build it and they will come. wild but not unexpected well yeah is he definitely dead i don't think it's definitely i think this is struggle. And, um, he kind of went for it in a pretty major way, started like destroying equipment and moving his forces toward Moscow. Yeah, yeah. And all of those narratives seem to be completely disproven. Well, what's scary is what happens if Ukraine runs out of troops. That's what's

3:12 In Russia's favor. have folded in a couple of weeks and it would have been over. Ukraine has at least put up a But if you really cared about them, why would your move be to prolong the conflict and let more of them die? 2014 coup yeah, no it's um oh no, no, no, that's not helpful to the narrative. Just like, you know, that's the news. And now if you were to make the point

8:30 last night it was really interesting with uh asan you and i were uh sitting in the green room They've always been and still are. who the real puppet master is, I mean, to anyone outside of like the American bubble, it's just so absurd on its face. discuss. I don't want to go to war but all these guys love war so war and you're like but you're the commander-in-chief

12:04 So they kind of boxed him in I think they manipulated him and was ending all of the wars and he wanted to be the guy who wasn't giving into the military industrial complex, it makes no sense for him to have people like Lindsey Graham in his ear. When you get into office, how much research do you need to do on each individual to find out where their ties are?

14:02 clearly are. And many have admitted at this point that they were that I'd be really interested to hear what he has to say. this is why when the Trump supporters Like even though she's wrong, she's really right. for the last six years congressmen and every media pundit, people from the FBI, the CIA, constantly saying on TV that They all knew from the very beginning.

17:35 And there's nothing. believe that Trump and Russia were in, Trump and Putin were involved in a conspiracy to steal the I'm sympathetic to people who get propagandized by this stuff you know, we do this all the time with everything. And so most people have busy lives. They're you want to stay on the air, They removed him because he was a problem. not that you guys are in different worlds, but the way they talk about you two guys is like,

21:09 was that he would break with the Republican Party and have a completely different view from them. He had gotten to the point where his show was so huge that he could kind of get away with it. And, you know, Elon's like, okay, go ahead. Well, it's important. It really is, and I love that. That's beautiful. Well. It's important did you ever see the Chuck Schumer Six Ways to Sunday?

23:04 even like I said, the thing where Chris Murphy just these occasional moments where even, like I said, these rare moments of honesty She leads that. What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were motivated to? Right. They had already kind of begun framing him for this whole this whole Russia thing, which was always nonsense. And they put together this whole dossier alleging that he was, you know, he had been in bed with Russia for years.

26:26 that the cia told the fbi that carter page was a good guy that he was a he was a cia um informant So they said that the CIA confirmed that The FBI lawyer who lied on the application. So what they're getting him on is all these like novel legal theories. Well, it's not very clear that he violated the statute, that same woman that uh did the town hall

29:32 9-11 supports baseless conspiracy theories you know like supports the idea that the government It's one of the biggest scandals in the history of the United States of America. Immediately after 9-11 even when all the flights were grounded was get high-level Saudis out of the country, was fly them out of the country. What's the ideological left narrative?

31:55 He was asking for that audio. is that despite them releasing the audio, It's behind a paywall again. Oh, I see. You mean like entrapment? Yeah. look. So there's a difference between entrapment and a difference Probably a zero, for all I know, right? There's literally nothing wrong zero. I'm sure we'd want to know. But we'd want to know. And he's saying, if you're claiming this

34:55 Herself. He was, in fact, quoted accurately. He will be on that debate stage tomorrow night. And he says this is a central message to his campaign. And yes, this is how the media works. Right, but this was after he had said they didn't release it because they hadn't. of what it seems like. And we have a right to ask these questions. Yeah. Vivek's a very sharp guy.

37:35 Let me take a – let me steel man this. and there was something like this march on the Capitol and a bunch of people were saying that the election was rigged Who fucking knows, right? The question is, did that happen? about violence and they wanted to, then you'd also wonder why was it that the Capitol police CNN, look, It's not nothing. blowing up this bomb.

40:42 You talked him into doing it. You know, like the guy's like a homeless guy who's a drunk, who's living, you know, in an attic somewhere or something like that. The the event to begin with there was no threat that this was going to happen until you guys like Lord this really sad In most cases not very bright guys into doing this thing well then arrest them the craziest thing is the numbers

42:02 So it's not just like that. It's also a little bit scary, but that so many people are just kind of what's exciting about the current moment. It's also a little bit scary, And he goes, and then we asked him point blank, Really? had the story suppressed Like this air of superiority. we're the news and that's what happens. And then they're very concerned with you spreading

45:26 Not only that, there's a mask mandate that got passed at one college. And so, like, what are we even talking about here? Okay. eight mrna vaccines in two years i don't know looks good take it that's where they're at but stuff like that um and then if you look at the boost the rate the first booster it was like half And there was a lot of scientific arguments that were made even before that that were like there's a real concern that this is the case.

48:52 president, they were all saying, are you going to take it? I'm not going to take it. Biden was propaganda goes from that i i will say man i think that um uh if they're if they're gonna do this are going to try to force this all down our throat again because it's insane. And it's like at a of mass regardless of like the very low fatality rate a lot of people got with the COVID thing.

51:43 They were, they were, people were forcing other people to comply of like oh so this is like kind of how authoritarianism works. Like there's this authority figure and then people just comply and they just follow it and they just You know what I mean? visiting and without masks. Yeah, you don't want to get too close to us. You know what I mean? Stay over there. It's just such a

54:34 remember right offhand, but there were major studies that indicated that the mask compliance It spreads. You know, you kind of can't really stop that from happening. And they were trying to say that natural immunity was a myth. But whatever the number is, it's clearly much better for you. And then they forced COVID positive people in there. oh yeah they just made,

57:08 Donald Trump is leading. Let's have someone else interview him. And then for whatever reason, they turned on him yeah and it's wild watching the the democrat Some shit like that happened. like you can't leave your house. for it no problem and i was like dude but yesterday you told me to give up my life and like put It's so unscientific. It still is.

1:00:48 Trump has already agreed to a two hundred thousand dollar bond with certain conditions, including limits on social media. charged, was not allowed to speak about it yourself publicly. You know, you can't post on truth social or Twitter or whatever about this You're not allowed to say this. They said that what the judge and I don't think we know all the details of this

1:03:47 But then as like a to throw a bone to the establishment to not make them look as bad as it made them look. I didn't murder anybody. And you're like, you're right. But when you said you didn't murder anybody, you know, they said firing Comey was one of them because he fired the FBI, the director of the FBI who was investigating him at the time. The first time they meet and comey was the FBI director under Obama, you know, so he was still there

1:06:03 Was you know like what J. Edgar Hoover, who was the longtime head of the FBI, what he used to do was like, so JFK, you know, wins the presidency. just so you know I have all of the It's like it's like a soft blackmail. It's like you're fired the cabinet to declare that the president is unfit to serve and removing him. And then- And then I don't know if you remember this at the very end. It's like the last month.

1:09:56 We didn't find any evidence of that. which is that the intelligence agencies framed the sitting president for treason I remember you said once, he might give you some ridiculous answer. And it's gonna remain bullshit. And you're like, OK, well, the answer is we have to get that and inject it in you. How what you're dealing with is the most powerful entrenched interests in the history of the world.

1:14:04 And then you need elites. But I think you need enough powerful people to realize that like you want to keep this thing together man but it's also like leads to the most but it also leads to the most prosperity, You have to be non-violent and try to persuade people You take everyone that's in all these intelligence agencies like you're no longer needed.

1:16:57 Like they just kind of like paid him off. I do think others should be criminally prosecuted. organization that starts wars and colored revolutions all around the world, Like, that has to just be scrapped. I'm sure there are. It's the old lord atkins very powerful government without all the corruption It's like the Lord of the Rings thing. well-meaning democratic socialist type people who, some of them I like personally, you know, like well-meaning Democratic socialist type people who some of them I like personally, you know, like I like Ben Burgess.

1:21:27 Deals with and it's like look and there's evil people out there in the world So I won't do that to someone else. You're doing it, everything's remote. one of his list of grievances. I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it. And this was always kind of like Like we've decided that price is worth it. It's just like if you want to understand what's going on here, you have to be able to like put yourself in the perspective, ask yourself the question, how would we feel if this was done to us?

1:25:19 and then they moved their military alliance That always I was always very attracted to Ron Paul's message because of that because it's like this just seems like a very basic thing this kind of through this revolution of all of that stuff where I, I genuinely don't know how If the goal is to, like, tell people your ideas and to educate people about what's going on, it's so much better to have like a hours long discussion than to go do a seven minute segment on CNN. It's kind of ridiculous to ever think you could talk about any like complex idea that way.

1:27:47 You did see it? That's right. thought were very fair questions And to ask him, like, look, you clearly are like a big critic of the populist movements that have arose. Wouldn't you at some point, That you know like she wanted to leave like you know what I mean like there seems like there's none of that with them There's no need to be sitting through all these commercials.

1:31:04 There's just a superior way. And there's several people talking over each other. And so, you know, it's like, well, what what led to the rise of Donald Trump as a political society, every society is going to have elites. That's just the way things work. You may not like but they do a good job of keeping data. You lose 40% of your net worth You can't just save your money because you're making nothing so you have to kind of gamble it in the Wall Street casino

1:34:38 And it's like you put yourself in the perspective of these people who like, I don't know, like his son died in Iraq you know what I mean or maybe one of his kids came back a mess from corporate media who had been basically lying to them for the last 20 years. Yeah, she was talking about how, you know, we, during the pandemic, And in the midst of that, what the government really did in its response was give crumbs to people while giving trillions to like big corporations and big banks.

1:37:19 credits, I'm all for that. So yeah, you know, people with kids have, you know, less money to The real problem is that it really reinforces the tinfoil hat brigade, Right. and they lie so much and they screw over Like they conspired to kill the Hunter Biden story. wife catches you cheating on her, and then you go, you know, your response is like, you know,

1:40:36 And then that led to a bunch of people going like, well, how long have they been lying? Yeah, it sure did. In my new special a stress test we had some weaknesses who are still hanging on to the arguments you know say like but like but like just regular people like online like fauci ain't saying that to go outside the boundaries of the ideology. no he's not dumb like he's a really brilliant neuroscientist or whatever a neurologist whatever

1:43:55 Michael Malice has that line where he goes, We were talking about this last night about the importance of not being married to your maybe even fucking change the information. and my point was right, how about now? that you read but what is it's like they're getting that from insurance companies, right? Wouldn't there be, like, shows about alcoholism?

1:46:51 That could be a contributing factor to this. Why would you ignore this very significant variation? you really don't have an argument you know like a healthy young person who's already had covet And you insisted on this. And this was during the vaccine passport time I got COVID. How does that make any sense? Because I didn't comply and I'm a bad boy.

1:50:26 Very quickly. I felt like shit for a day. If you can't, take vitamin D. And at the same time, Fauci was going door to door. They never even tested it on transmission. And you read it, and you go, wow, that's really what it was. He does a podcast called The Tom Woods Show. So he was at I don't know. I think he's in his uh in his 50s uh so he was at um a doctor's appointment he said and his doctor was like oh you know uh because your age or whatever you can

1:54:08 Like, that's where I am. or you know what I mean? Well, they're financially incentivized and that's where it got spooky. They financially They're not trying to make money. They have territories. the costs of things actually are very very corrupt uh field and it's it's it's insane because it's about the um the uh um the when you had him on the podcast and that created like a huge you know

1:57:38 any of the compilation videos that were made And he's going, look, develop language, you know? I cannot think of a presidential candidate who's ever mentioned once that this is comes up. Nobody's ever bringing this up. I cannot think through. It's about what they did when they were injecting these foster kids with these experimental drugs and they died.

1:59:50 Yeah, you know and I don't even know hotels was directly related to that That's the way to do it. Post me inviting him to have a debate with RFK. yeah, you know, as an unvaccinated person, something you don't really believe and you did it without like mentioning me, you know, like with the app mention. about that i don't do i don't like to engage in that kind of shit online i don't think it's

2:02:19 Like someone who really does take care of themselves and then being lectured by someone who doesn't, You know what I mean? for people that like to cherry pick shit here, Not saying that. And if you were very older and or very sick, you really did not want to get this thing, especially the early strains of it. that are pro-vaccine anti doing anything else where is your outrage about this lab leak? Where is your outrage about the source of this thing?

2:05:13 vaccine. The whole thing And it looks overwhelmingly like that's where the virus originated from. This kind of explains in a different way why this guy was so willing to be out there saying, It just sucks. This is a good step in the right direction A few weeks of, okay, lockdown and, okay, what's really going on? I don't know if we're a majority. Can we have five years with no war?

2:08:32 And like, you know what I mean? And yet it's being forced, you know, like we're being forced to live in this world. about the Bud Light boycott thing Yeah. He's different than this thing that you're going to keep doing forever and ever and ever. We had this end of the world podcast in 2016 at the Comedy Store, a live podcast during the election. This is how he won.

2:11:14 It was just like this solemn moment where these people had to eat crow. There were a lot of candidates who have been determined to be unacceptable. determined was not acceptable ended up winning and part of what was so powerful about that president and now we will have the first female president. And of course, you know, this throwback It makes people more convinced

2:13:56 I'm going to come back and win again. Like that guaranteed it for him. Because as soon as they did that, it was like, oh, now it's like it's shifted right back to this like look what they're doing to your guy. The interesting thing, there's an interesting thing about the law. I'll let you off with a warning. point blank, is the NSA involved in any bulk data collection on American citizens? He said, no,

2:16:38 There's just no political will. is the constitution, and it says only Congress not wars. So you know that thing in Vietnam? It probably smelled like a war to you're military actions, not wars. And yet they're not but yet trump didn't give back the classified information quickly enough even after they asked him oh he's got a he's got to be indicted for that

2:18:26 We have proof that millions of votes were stolen from Donald Trump It's just that when you look at things of all the crimes that presidents commit, the He's like, I want you to go find where the fraud is. And the case that they're using to argue that is that he had advisors around him who told him that the election was legit. At some level, there's probably some campaign workers that have a vested interest in one

2:21:02 a particular county that might be red and a particular county that might be red. And you can fuck around, A sampling of recent election fraud cases this. So it says here there's 1,438 proven instances of voter fraud, 1,240 criminal convictions, He's presiding over what he would describe as a white-hot economy where there was very low unemployment. But I would argue that it was kind of a bubble economy still,

2:24:00 and how great the economy was and how he's doing all these great things. He was poised to have an excellent shot at being reelected. And then you have the economy destroyed If you wanted to speak out against the lockdowns or against Black Lives Matter or any of this stuff, you might lose social media. You might lose your job. A bigger censorship all the like fundamentals of what happened that year. And even if you really, really don't like

2:26:40 look at this is like oh look you wouldn't give him a fair shot again. Like once again, you wouldn't just let him have a fair shot. They don't really believe they're in a democracy Richmond, north of Richmond. That's kind of my bias if anything. Yes. for us to see that naked and then also see them push Biden through. Biden get in and see what a out of them that they just want to continue doing this to us and if they're doing if they did it

2:31:26 for whatever bizarre reason. I'm just a culturally a different thing than than people who have more of a liberal background ever did. I think it's a whole different thing to see that these institutions He goes, for the first time in American history, the FBI has been politicized. But, okay, at least you're waking up now Got all the dirt on everybody and didn't want him to have the dirt on him.

2:34:01 A lot worse than what cross-dressing got. Yeah. Encouraging them to commit suicide. and j edgar hoover was there for a really interesting part of that with the fbi start as the smallest, most restrained government in the history of the world. You can't do like this. most powerful government in the history of the world. percent of their income you know we'll just take a little bit from them and

2:37:37 on Japan. Now, we're the bad motherfuckers. We run the world. You know what I mean? And then just So why wild? Yeah. There's a lot of rumors about his relationship, Well, whatever. He spied on MLK Yeah, I don't buy he went to a restaurant like that. That seems sus. Alex Jones was telling me about that over a decade ago. something they're sex yeah um but like he so and by the way the thing is that there's there's too many

2:40:28 I have the documents to prove this. He was also right about Bohemian Grove. Like, what are you, you guys are dressing up like druids and you're you're you're burning an effigy in front of an owl god and they believe they're like on team Satan faggiest thing he's ever seen in his life and he wanted to wash his hands or he didn't want to decisions based off profit you're like isn't so satanic yeah like so who is

2:43:28 Like it's very weird. they were doing this thing where they were moving pythons from this place in Florida. was it the 50s and it does make you wonder to some degree you're like are you like Satanism meet NASA's real the paintings that they found from him there's one with George W Bush where he's me talking about it with duncan we're like that is to me i got you yeah i got you bitch and the

2:46:58 A combination of those two. you have dirt on them, right? there's this code that you don't do that. I think in some cases they're tricked into it. It makes sense you got dirt on them Michael Malice. That sounds like something Malice would say. Has there ever been a case There was like a recent case of that. Yeah. Yeah, you see a lot of murder videos on Instagram

2:52:07 You'd be like, no. I like, yeah. even if you haven't done anything Images or videos where a reasonably identifiable person is clearly deceased. Why don't you just say like no murder videos? they're like, I mean, if you can't identify him, It is something. but he had totally waved the white flag to America, and then they still went in and did that to him.

2:55:10 And I don't know if that's true or not. Many, many times. Yeah, you're really backing someone into a corner Do you want Ukraine to win this war? Yeah. who now says we're going to institute a bill of rights or something like that? That was the other thing that you were talking about, that recording, where they the phone calls. uh, Like it was right around when,

2:59:01 And then they're all, like, I don't think there's really any evidence for it, So it works. He was at least one of the signatures like one of the signatures of it to the protesters. And it was all part of a big plan, which these neocons have said forever that their vision was always that. I read the memo last time we were here, he said, and then just more intervention in Ukraine

3:02:17 thing and uh at one point steven colbert goes well what could vladimir putin do like could he I think the attitude is what is a big new Brzezinski said. you know, and seeing what that's done to our country, It's some wild shit, dude. And now, and I fell down the rabbit hole. Scott Horton, the best anti-war voice in the country, I'm so passionate about following it and knowing what's going on.

3:05:37 And then I just started being like obsessed with, you know, reading about like Austrian economics and military history and all this shit. And like, I'm working on this thing that isn't clearly going, it doesn't like really make Which is still one of my favorite comedy specials ever, and I think that was it 2009 2008 yeah Something like that so that was like that

3:06:52 and what man was like 10,000 years ago. And then just your, I remember thinking about it made no sense, but it's just who you are. like if you had ever said to someone like 20 years ago or you your example, I was like, yeah, I'm just going to do this because this is me. You know, for people, they're craving authenticity. Oh, no, like he really believes what he's saying. Yeah, and then you're like, oh this guy knows he can play to this audience

3:09:26 Huh, but it's so tempting like i'm not even saying like that necessarily they're doing that for these reasons but you So you just immediately know, you're like, You know what I mean? And, you know, the fact that you are authentic and that's what's so interesting about it is because you really are deeply, deeply invested in this stuff. It would just drive me crazy.

3:12:04 How Kennedy got killed? And like, and all the shit, And also when you're not supposed to get in there and you realize they're all conspiring No one else around him I don't think did. Yeah, you're just. You'd be like, you don't have any idea how my wife feels about this. Who's like not that old, right? Like is this, you're hearing rumors? How reliable is that ever? Ever. is it a chick who's a friend of hers says this how reliable is that ever ever how reliable ever is some

3:14:55 first lady of all time She's hot. She's probably in her 40s. It's, there's something. 46? It's 1917 to 63. Yeah. a very impressive guy. I think there's like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell So there's how many people working in that organization? Yeah, so you get into the... Like it wasn't like they were just like lining up for him.

3:18:19 this boomer mentality about America We'll go show him he can't do that. uh having some influence in this jesus i like i like a lot of things about vick i like a lot Like, I don't know what position exactly would be right for him. Like, it seems to me like they'll do whatever they have to do. And he's looking at 20 years. campaign so far. He's got a lot of good stuff to say. I mean, he said the other day, they asked

3:21:49 RFK Jr. I think is a lot better on China. But in general, I think he is more on the anti-war side. for how he can get it done. He's only 37 years old. of what he says and even how he defends criticism. Yeah. And when you hear Donald Trump talk about something, it always kind of seems like he You know? Dave Smith, you're the fucking man. It's part of a series for Gas Digital.

3:25:14 Beautiful. my pleasure brother