Joe Rogan Experience #2026 — Peter Berg Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. It's so fucking good, dude. And he said, are you interested? OxyContin got him. And that really kind of fucked with me. And a lot of people aren't going to watch a documentary and, you know, they're not going is essentially explaining to this very young girl, just a They're always lies. I mean, they were doctors And then let's put you on 40.

5:22 And that was the game that the Sacklers were playing. evil human beings. It's unquestionably evil. And what's even more evil is they got away with it. No. So credit court blocks Purdue Pharma's $6 billion Sackler opioid settlement. $6, but there's no more. And you can never come after any more of our money. And you can never Sure. when they realized that people were dying, the kids were crushing up OxyContin and snorting it and getting addicted and overdosed.

9:18 Hammer the abusers. So think about that. points here about what I'm not supposed to say. So again, everything I'm saying is more or less they did. And I didn't I thought like just putting a standard disclaimer would be kind of letting It's so weird how many people are on it. 30 60 days but he wrote the wrong number he instead of like 180 he wrote 90 or something

13:13 Like it gets to the end of the month and she's out of pills and they're calling the doctor. do that but it's but you're imagine your 90 year old mom is jonesin because I got to get my grandma heroin. You still can get it. And if you look up some of the old – see if you can find the – who was Richard Sackler's uncle and is, you know, Jeez. But that's real.

15:48 Stay fit and slim by taking amphetamine. You're a doctor in some Midwestern town. Did you do it before you started doing this? Took it. Heroin works. And then your body becomes addicted to it. They all knew how powerful that product was. And then that honey starts to turn into battery acid and being obvious about it? It is. That's so crazy, right? and tangled up in opioids.

22:01 just, look, it's not just Oxycontin, any addiction, right? I have many friends who've struggled with alcoholism and other addictions. Opioids are so common in this country recreationally now because of OxyContin. It's so common to hear about someone overdosing from fentanyl. It was like a sound guy. And that a family was able to make so much money how much money did

24:47 as this big giant bureaucratic organization. And in the case of OxyContin, the whole approval process came down to this one guy, this guy named Curtis Wright. And they kept trying to get him to approve it. And they but is believed to not be addictive. they do nobody knows who agrees to stay in a hotel for two days so i i wrote a scene in All of it.

27:46 so we just shut the door oh wow and we just i think it's episode three that that's it but he They're like, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Yeah. And our parents would call the school and be like, is this woman this teacher? People shoot people and the bullet comes out the front. Anybody that shoots things with guns it went through Kennedy and But that conspiracy, it's like, I don't know.

31:05 him in a hotel for two weeks, how the fuck is that not illegal? Like, how is that not illegal? I think you'll find Curtis Wright Like, if you're... town. Yeah, moved to a remote town, Yeah, he's got a whole vibe going on. Just say that you believe this to be less addictive. And it's so weird that that's legal. Let's go. He's like, these are the real drug dealers.

35:30 Especially on like education institutions. And it's just this happy, joyful room built on Oxycontin. That's how he made his money. The great merchant of death is gone. He invented dynamite, hand grenades and howitzer rounds and munitions. thing. Wait a minute. We know what we're He said many saw his invention, what Alfred thought would end all wars, just like Oppenheimer, as a highly lethal product.

38:17 But it makes sense because that's how evil fucks are. We're up to 300,000 deaths and a lot of wrecked families. There was a bridge in London at one of the Sacklers, the Sackler Bridge. Yes. That's insane. This guy that approved it, what was his name again? and what it would mean for, You know, like we tried to contact Richard Sackler several times during the early—he used to live here in Austin, and we couldn't find him.

41:58 of legal advice I mean even if he was I don't think you could admit that you're sorry. Your reputation is destroyed. But you want to... Then the ball got rolling. just again it's it's hard to understand the way certain people function their their morals like But I wonder how much of his nature. like what makes a person like that i don't fucking know man but when you see it it's so confusing

45:32 I don't know what's going on there. Yeah. and he said, you know, I looked into his eyes because that's crazy. I hope I but he said he regretted it because he was wrong. He thought he saw a soul, but he didn't. How about that? I looked into Putin, looked Putin in the eye 27 years ago. But then I was not able to get a sense No, I have not. And I've gone there twice for film promotions.

49:15 The Moscow architecture is so beautiful and so unique, uniquely Russian. we would all say these are terrible, terrible things. I was in Pearl Harbor working on a film, companies that are making so much money. that like many of our greatest creative accomplishments are these weapon systems, right? And they're cruising slow, and they dock like sharks and they're cruising slow and they dock.

51:29 I've got these public affairs people and the captain of the sub, and they're showing me around the sub. the nuclear reactors where there's armed guys guarding the nuclear reactors because they're propelled by nukes Then you start looking up the prices, right? Cost, right. I'm talking about a nuclear missile fired from a submarine, right? If one of these subs fires one missile, right, we're fucked.

54:39 All the missiles that are flying 24-7 in planes and bombs. With all the money, all the money is going into the military. And that's, I support the military. Like there's decisions that get made cost lives and souls. People will be destroyed, but they're making these decisions because of government, the representatives from 30 different states saying you can't do it. We've got a factory

58:26 discuss letting AI fly and arm and release weapons on targets that are AI assessed and AI Okay, it says CBO estimates that plans for U.S. nuclear forces as described in the fiscal year 2023 budget and supporting documents would cost $756 billion over the 2023-2032 period. Yeah, I do. Can you do that multiplication? One of those was the 83 Hiroshima bombs.

1:00:34 oh my god but those are just air delivered yes can you show me that sub that nuclear sub those But, my God, are they expensive. And like- And they're bottom right with the glasses? Like we talk about power, I mean, but do you remember the there was a Russian one that went down? What was that about? That's just more like give me a Jeep, give me some night vision goggles, give me some good intel on where

1:04:22 of equipment. I've seen a lot of Van Goghs. was a great build, right? That was a great build. But man, it's expensive and it's kind of a bummer Smoke some 5-MeO and you'll go out there, right? highway and the base is over a we thought might happen and sure enough guys get out military dudes with guns and they're looking And you're turning around. You're allowed to get like a certain distance, and then it's illegal.

1:08:29 You can't hike in. But the alleged claims, and the most fascinating one is this guy Bob Lazar, So it's more than 30 years. like let's take because they have to get fresh eyes in these things allegedly every few years you see these insane nuclear powered submarines and these insane aircraft carriers. Like what we have built is so fucking mind blowing.

1:11:28 Los Alamos Oppenheimer lived when he was doing the a giant chunk of it is underground. It's completely armed. We would drive, there's a road, And we went out a couple of days to these, there's, you know, some restaurants and bars in the town of Los Alamos. girls, getting them to turn and putting them as bartenders or cocktail waitresses because This place...

1:14:13 It's got all the. But like, this is. They show a little bit of it. Jesus. That's where Lazar worked. just think of, like, what an insane jump in technology nuclear bomb. Yeah. Even more insane. That's crazy. It's 47? I'll double check. It was, like, jumpy. which is a threat to the established weapons manufacturers, jet builders, because the future, our fighting China in a large, like, full-scale battle is going to be AI-controlled drone dependent.

1:19:15 What is this, Jamie? Right. Yeah. They did have lightsabers. It seems like that's the direction. and they took me into the robotics department down in the basement, Sprinting up and down the halls and jumping over little obstacles and I'm like I'm like These things scare the shit out of me. It's terrifying. 10 years ago. We were talking about electric engines.

1:22:45 That's MIT, isn't it? Yeah tail? That was the room we were in. Ah. That's MIT, isn't it? It's not good. uh your house and we want to arrest you we're going to put a battering ram on a tank and he What? Chief Gates was looking toward a possible gubernatorial run, which mercifully never came to pass. That's LAPD like going after, our current generation, that money allowed this to happen and that influence allowed this to happen.

1:26:18 We recommend a low dose of an opioid. This is 92, somewhere around then, 93. But when I got my nose fixed, It wasn't a wonderful feeling at all. I'm just going to deal with pain. Who knows how many times after that maybe a dozen it was destroyed the inside of my nose for the first time when I was like five. And I think I broke it who knows how many times after that.

1:28:37 But he tried to give me two different opiates. You'd be maxing out. But it wasn't like I can't sleep. One of them was something else. And I'm like, are you out of your fucking mind? Have you ever met him? So I flew out there and went to his house. And I'm like, dude, you're not taking anything? are, right? Like, oh, it hurts. Make it go away. Right. Make it go. give me the quickest path to being pain free. Drink this, smoke this, buy this, fuck this, whatever.

1:32:03 And we're just so fucking soft when it comes to pain. Well, it's also, I think we've been Give me something that makes me not feel like this. cautious. I don't want to make anybody feel bad because they're taking medication for back pain. Did you get it fused? Yes. titanium articulating disc and was able to fight fought again and he defend the No, no, no.

1:34:54 There's a bunch of exercises that guys do to strengthen their neck. I know there's Biolux Accelerator in Columbia that's very good. I don't know of anyone who has had, and this is just my own anecdotal experience. I don't know They're too savage. I don't remember exactly what mesenchymal stem cells and they used exosomes. it was back then. done. And it's nice that there is all these different options. You just, you have to be

1:38:46 interest by stopping some sort of a novel new sort of treatment that may lead to way less people on Where are the bodies? Yeah, doing so because I have I have some back issues go down there. Yeah, I will you should but what I wanna what? that he got fixed with stem cells and his dad. And very, very, very knowledgeable guy when it comes to this. Really?

1:41:26 You go to a hotel. My friend Gordon Ryan, who's the best jiu-jitsu athlete of all time, He's like, there's no other explanation. Chris against Weidman. Well, he did, but he didn't. Top three of all time? watch Anderson Silva record should pull up anderson's record? Should we pull up Anderson's record? the same exact injury. He snapped his own Jared Cannoneer,

1:44:51 So you got two years or a year and a half You know, like when you, there's no way you're going to do that clean KO Travis Luter submission Rich Franklin KO Chris Lieben. Chris Lieben, KO. Tony Fricklin, KO. He never came back. he was never really that guy again. started a heads-up tackling program with kids to try and get them to stop leading with their heads

1:47:45 It's you trying to strangle them. You know, when a guy like Leon Edwards in the fifth round takes out Kamaru Usman, who's like one of the greatest of all time, with one kick. that you are being very careful that you are you're not going to war that you're not getting Literally, you can't knock them out, You're not durable anymore for some reason. And you would hope that they have friends that can have that long hard talk with them when it's over and say

1:50:55 things now it's like god was it worth it i don't know man i don't know yeah i mean i was thinking It would be a tragedy to see a guy that sharp struggle mentally. That's amazing. I can imagine. this down and you know gary shanley was a partner of mine in the gym yeah do you know gary love And in the mirror, I see this like little flash of red in the mirror and i see

1:53:51 He was fighting this kid named Lopez. I'm like, well, here's the gym. Eddie and Shepo's trainers, five fighters. guys have come in and you know worked on their their boxing in our gym and seeing the struggles like Eric Anders, the guy who's been on the podcast before, he's invested in real estate. He's very smart. and the high of winning a fight is like nothing else in all sports it's there's no other because

1:57:09 at least you know, guess what, I'm playing next Tuesday. It is a lone wolf sport. And like, Like, do you know how many weight classes are in boxing today? Can you name them all? Yeah. which is pretty insane that no one else has. How many world titles did Manny Pacquiao win? Like, wow. What did he start? What's bantamweight is 126? And flyweight is like 118.

2:00:21 which is as bad as anything else in the sport, But the problem is, if you're a guy and you're 5'9 and you want to fight in the welterweight division, can you make 55? Because if you just walk around at like 180 pounds, you want to fight at 170, you're dealing with guys that are 200 plus. Which is really wild that the heavyweight champion of the UFC has to make weight.

2:02:14 Has there ever been a 300-pound fighter? Yeah, I wanted I looked at doing a film about him for a minute. There is one out a and he stuck his chin as Kerr was. Sweet guy. in his life, I think he got hooked That's why you don't know. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. I'm not sure. Was that UFC then? The fights are in Vegas now. do you know what this guy fights in japan do you know about this and that he's like and he goes you

2:06:08 But see, my theory, being a big boxing fan, we need a couple of billionaires to buy boxing. Golden Boy. Like, oh, I'm a UFC, I'm a WBO 140-pound champion. Because I put Eddie in charge of it. I like him. Or a huge fight. What's your best venue? So you have that fight, and let's think about the biggest fight in boxing right now. I really put I don't know man mean, look, Canelo's a monster.

2:10:20 Ngannou. You have the UFC fight. Drops a boxing ring down. And he's kind of going for it. And they're also doing a lot of boxing events now. Maybe someone's listening right now. And they'll go, you know what? He's like, well, I'm in charge of all the insurance for the line. is some mega city Read that. Nine million people. Like, look at that. That's insane.

2:13:09 Like when Dubai, remember when they were building the palm tree islands and everyone thought Look how high it is. Science fiction turned reality. and I think to I as people Because the companies that make the weapon systems are not going to let it happen. But I'm not even saying turn it off. It's crazy. It should be on the front of everybody's lips.

2:16:14 i understand that it's all inflation i understand i understand it's caught with the problems that if you could actually see what it was like when we when we started like the the literal if you men of the same age, it just doesn't happen. But we can do it. We can fly all the way over there Yes, what's the best way to stop that give them a start a better start to their life?

2:19:03 things outside of how to play music, martial arts. just go back to the time in pearl harbor when i was getting toured around that sub and I'm just trying to count how I'm trying to do the math in my head. of how, like, it gets And they got away with it. money off of the backs of like at the end of the day what I observed when I went to Iraq was not big technology out there and you know saving the day these

2:22:11 fantastic it's really good like everything you do you've done so many fucking great movies man