Joe Rogan Experience #2034 — Jeremy Jones Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day didn't afford it all the time to be able to you know kind of go with it but yeah number five or And, you know, if you're paying attention to what goes on, there and stuff but i mean it just didn't seem real when you what how old were you when you Yeah. And when we got there, you know, it was an interesting time

3:25 and we were all just hanging out with him, than anybody else I've ever seen play pool like the way I mean, they're like cussing the casino. So that, to me, was pretty fascinating overall, you know. Yeah, absolutely. played something like four days or five days with like an eight hour break or 10 hour break in in when you're up and if you're down and you still got some fight left in you this guy might get

6:12 You want to put the parlay on them. i was lucky i was around some of the old school ones as well and the charisma is true you know Yeah, exactly. It's amazing how much talent there is out there. I mean, these guys, you know, you had Federer-Gorst. Like look what he's doing. You know, he doesn't even want a gear. It exists in archery, and it really exists in pool.

9:28 Snooker. that's that's an interesting game too oh it's a great game yeah i mean i think you know i think nine balls a little better looking for today's people i you know what i mean like snooker has And when you're down and then all of a sudden, boom, that I've ever participated in. so we traveled to to Moscow actually to play the Russian team and we put him on

11:16 I mean, I was super proud of him, yeah. then like how how long before you're just all in with pool like all day long oh it didn't take long Yeah. We went to New Orleans first. You go to Waffle House when you drive in. and he likes to gamble nine ball, this guy likes to play one pocket, you know. because they got us on the way. And even if you're going to pick the right one, they start the, you know,

14:34 That kind of thing. get them thinking i I can do that. But the thing is, like practicing with you today, probably not. Yeah, I've been here a few days, high level pool it's just uh just and especially it's one of those things that i always said it's You know what I mean? that you said i love the cobra 90 pounds soaking wet maybe? Yeah, Ko Ping Chung and Ko Ping Yi are two of my favorite guys to watch

17:07 Everything looks like right in the middle. Yeah. when i watch him he's still kind of getting his coordination as a tall man because he's pretty Yeah, that well the Chinese Taipei former Taiwanese, right? it's perfect for position on the next ball. So, you know, I stayed in Baytown, that area, for the first six, eight months I played. Back in the day, at least.

20:06 they had I don't know 320,000 or something like that in May and that's in New Orleans Yeah, so everybody gets auctioned. Yeah, yeah, they do that in golf a lot. send you a page on the old pager and you know you make a call and you make a betting on yourself a little more often and it's easy to tell pretty quickly unless you catch one that's going to give you information is probably talking to someone else too right you know kind

23:29 in the mountains because of it and all that but so we're stuck in the and we're basically walking it was the culture it was a culture of people that just weren't gonna fit in with nine to five and it was always like, you don't have heart, That was one of the craziest things and then couldn't miss. Right. Like if you, if you hit the point on the way in weird shit could happen you could hit the ball well and not

25:53 Why George couldn't do shit. then sell it and he was uh he would go to the pool always awesome you know when you're in there trying to match up everyone's trying to get a little edge yeah it's just almost you know so i don't know you know what they would i don't know i mean you would have to get someone Or you try to draw. Yeah, I love that guy. i mean it's you know more like you know we call it complimentary action these days you know when

29:39 Yes, Paul Portier. Oh, yeah. around the table from perfect position. Hell of a player. You got to play everything, huh? kentucky's supposed to be the bank place well yeah well i'll get back to that when i was going They were worn out? Oh out oh my god it was unbelievable black guys play mainly you know like in that area so i'll walk in this pool room in cleveland called

32:58 Holy shit. So, because he knows the guy I'm with. Yeah. It never took off for some strange reason in America. and then getting sponsored and traveling the country That's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. All these different pool rooms like Oscars pool room, type of mma or some type of martial arts or something maybe that's streamed a lot they don't I mean, there's no more I don't think that I've ever heard of or seen. I think it's the internet. I think the

37:04 make a living or play good pool and then it kind of all right for me. I mean, I kind of, like I said, I never knew you could make a living or play good pool. he said, hey, you need to start playing the next level. only knowing you can't you know just flip the coin again yeah you know so especially because You know, like getting to where that wasn't a problem, whether I won or not.

38:40 This is a true story, even smaller probably. But I've had to do that a few times because percentages say I'm supposed to beat this guy, you know, and pump up. But I wasn't nervous at all. Just wasn't as much big nine ball back in the day, you know, unlike today. and all of those little fine movements. 180 beats per minute is so much. able to do to shut the world out it's not a great thing to be deaf obviously but yeah to have that

41:26 other senses for whatever your your mind rather is more free it has less resources that are hogging and be in a poor room, you know what I mean? It was sensational. But anyway, this is while Shane insane that the food was so good. But anyway, stroking in balls and getting nine hours getting ready next day he wakes up does the same thing eight or nine hours before he's got

44:19 tournament play and efren reyes and the Filipino invasion, that was all gambling. with your friends like what if you and i were playing no me and you are supposed to be able know what i'm saying like if you're gambling with somebody and you're playing this someone i'm like They didn't take the guys that were playing. But to have actually lived that life, when did you come off that life?

47:07 get to know you and whatnot before they're comfortable you might stay a week two weeks So, like, first time I went to California, I did that, actually. And I knew Marcus was out there, and so I'm in hard times. Like he's right next to him. I quit. He says, he'll give you the $700,000, but you got to bet everything you got. because i mean the way i played in the other two sets you know what i'm saying so he just comes out

49:54 Now I'm starting to run out. Yeah, so they got the player side, right, with the tight tables, But during that second set, a friend of mine had built me a cue around there now i think but marcus was mad at me for a little while yeah that's why i was asking up this but were you purposely trying to set something up well I thought I you know I'm Plus, I wanted to see him play.

52:40 So that eventually was going to happen, but Marcus ended up having to leave the country for his visa got shortened up Some of Asia, for sure. You know, people aren't just thinking, Yeah, and they're interested in gambling on pool. Wow. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I'm talking about, yeah yeah i think this has been there a long time 30 30 years yeah there was a guy one

54:49 And he never looked upset. thousand dollar bush oh yeah yeah yeah and so he took it like a grain of salt he was more Sure. Guys would come in, stay for days. i've heard that in so many words before it was but he said it out loud he was rack the balls I couldn't wait to come back, get to the pool room. I mean, it's good to hit the ball well. Yeah, there's a good friend of mine, Harley Bryan.

58:13 Just the stuff he was raised around. Those type of people. ain't got to that often again i mean i don't know i don't know what the mentality is but And the thing is, even if you play well the difference a lot of people like i know i go to senior centers right sometimes play pool with some of the You know? He was borrowing money yesterday, and, you know,

1:01:05 you're constantly engaged in some kind of competition. I mean, this is endless, the pool games and the handicaps, the partners. want to know somebody though like really trust putting it in someone else's hands right you know Tough tournament. know and they just pounded me right so i got the tournament money after one and it was 8 000 And he said, hey, if you're ever bored, you want to come up to Morristown, Tennessee,

1:03:42 If I go up there. So long story short, I got him 10,000 loser. So now we, I got him 10,000 loser. So we're playing a set for like 20 all right because my buddy's got a list of So I'm like, what are we going to do? So he knocks a three in, Mark does, and he comes down. god yeah all the money's on the light right so frank he knows about pool and the ball's aimed

1:06:46 Yeah. So he says, hey, he's going to take a break. of bulky they kind of move around a little bit shitty job yeah yeah it's old school pool hall About three months later, she killed him. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Oh, when she killed him? I think he was kind of like a numbers guy. People look forward to that kind of gambling. They're so fucked up. You might not have the best relationship with your lady, you know,

1:10:06 watching that you're like don't do it yeah what are you doing yeah what do you do but we know I'm seeing them get a hold of 500s and 600s I mean, I'd tell between the legs coming back home, Oh, yeah. I mean, you could get yourself stressed out about it, I guess. Maybe my mentality. I don't know. I don't know, Jeremy. Maybe my mentality. and you might be betting 150,000 a hand.

1:12:23 Yeah. I need that. i mean some guys get pissed off at themselves or some guys but yeah i mean areas were different i that you're very conservative in your gambling yeah trying to fire one barrel at you yeah if That was Efron's name. Mr. Walling, I've got to ask you a question, or I've got to tell you something. And that was only like 10 miles from where I was from, but it was before my time.

1:15:29 So they kind of keep control of it. So Efron was one of them for sure. It wouldn't get lost. or he plays a good player getting a huge spot. You know what I mean? Yeah, when it's all prime. Because pool's so mental. he's going to fold. Have you seen – what is, like, the most high stakes between like two elite players because i know there's I would never play with another cue ever for a second in life.

1:18:47 Back then, the thing is, these days, of course, everything has gone up in money. 13 consecutive racks in a row. you know what I mean, on tight tail. he opened a pool room there in uh North Georgia so doing a lot of that but this this technology I mean, you definitely get a lot of feel. but you get a lot out of Yeah. It just makes the ball react differently.

1:22:19 Right. I've made a post about my new cue the other day referring to that. I was watching some clip, and I think you mentioned that on one of your podcasts, I think. It came up from there. Get the fuck out of the house. yeah yeah we weren't allowed there too often until later in the evening and my mom wasn't Yeah. clear your mind the way pool does when you're pool, I think it's a lot like archery in that it's so difficult to do to have precision and move the ball.

1:25:20 probably 80 video games and then it had you know we didn't have a nine-foot table. Oh, 100%. People used to say kids are wasting their lives, when they're putting together like it's crunch time and they're getting to the end of a video It's like it's so much more exciting. You know, I catch myself, hey, he's been up there too long. them it was fun it's too fun though too crazy just too addictive yeah i have a friend in st

1:27:55 Makes sense, especially if you can't afford great equipment. Automated pool rooms? you can buy the membership plus so many hours a month at a discounted charge you understand you How can you get rid of the house man? Well, they can go 24-7 also. Yeah, it's better. Oh. Do you ever play when you go to these places? He was a good player, you know, this guy.

1:30:47 Yeah, exactly. remember him ever asking for a spot from any good player oh wow yeah well that's where he gets his But then he went to like, let's play 3,000 a game. happens uh with the good players is through this guy you know but now you know what english eight but the pockets are different. I think they're like snooker ball size. There it is right there.

1:33:58 That thicker nap felt, you know you've seen the snooker felt, right? But not as fast as Simone is. Right. There's a guy, Q-Tech actually did, When you're on the road, do these players ever match up with each other? That one there, we're there for two weeks. So, like, say, for instance, me and you are going to play each other, nine ball. you go to five or six or something.

1:36:37 to tune into it you don't have a chance in hell oh no chance zero chance no chance. Zero chance. No chance. Even though in the pool world, which is pretty vast, you know that, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So say me and you are playing the cubes neutral. You see? So now you offer it back to me, and I say, You can do it on the golf course like your guy hits, right?

1:39:02 Call that hammering. Great way to gamble by the way. with nine ball really. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, from all people that were telling you the truth. Which is frustrating It's so nuts I used to gamble Had some action, but I just said, later a year later and hovered around the top 10 for 10 or 12 years mainly just because of Most guys want to just swing the cue a little bit,

1:41:45 you know you don't want to spar hard all the time but you you definitely don't want to try to switch Right. The idea of being a good pool player is very attractive to people. Or we had four drinks and we played one game just because it's so difficult. And then a lot of times those problems occur and go yeah you know that's knew how to take advantage of all the smart sides of the game you know so i could pick apart you

1:45:14 articulate all the problems that can occur yeah well i mean i've been teaching the last eight You just got to be able to recognize them. Oh, yeah. out there and i think that's the one thing we're missing a little bit of. Like that's just what they are. Exactly, yeah. You can't just Earl Strickland type character like that's just Do you like the pool hall gambling part more or the tournament more?

1:48:24 I mean, i think society today people that knew cash was around they weren't necessarily pool players or anything like that right and so you'd leave the pool room and you drive around 20 30 minutes if you're in a pretty quick yeah and i was very fortunate that actually one of the guys i beat out of probably what causes these you know is it just like one great pool room and people sometimes yeah some

1:50:56 So, you know, and of late when you gamble, You know there's 10 days of action the whole time, 24-7. For how many days is it? Yeah, it's 10 days. year that everyone's gonna go to this yeah and it's been going like 20 something years now I always thought a sitcom with the right script If it's done right, you know, you go to the right places and meet the right people and see the right things.

1:54:00 scenes but that kind of atmosphere that kind of place, that kind of place, like that's Derby City. You got to scramble down here to go. Well, you know, for a few years it seemed like about the fifth, sixth day that millions of people are going to hear. Well, they've got to realize, okay, I can understand that they've got a casino now that's an adrenaline rush i've never bet 10 i I've bet five on a coin toss. Have you really? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

1:56:13 This is it. But this is in this he talks about. He's a one-pocket nut. Yeah, well, you know, he plays those matches that are, of course, being bet on. You have to give up a crazy spot. fucking focus that he has. Yeah. That's the one that, you know, I think any of us can practice. But the thing that I was getting at is he's just a unique individual with the focus.

1:58:43 and uh you know the best thing for me coming to to Moscone as far as a decision is Hill-Hill. And the Moscone Cup is fascinating because they openly encourage cheering. after losing eight years in a row. I mean, all those countries, they're big on that. Well, they somewhat get almost settled, you know settled you know occasionally you still have something peep out

2:00:45 what i mean like those english are but it's so much different than any other pool tournament and Maybe that would get more people engaged. the fans are getting like the Moscone every time they're getting closer and closer. So is that encouraged? They want to engage with the players. and all these different things that are happening. Like Texas Open, it's not considered a pro-pro on the calendar tournament,

2:02:54 I mean, everything's going up. I just want it to be more popular yeah bowling the night before i end up playing the next day right just Yeah, I always found the worst was curls. new york had something like 900 pool halls wow see that's true in 1900 i think in the 1900 new york had some absurd number of pool halls Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Why did I think it was 900?

2:06:04 And that one thing that happened during Prohibition, I think, Oh, in Los Angeles, where alcohol and food are permitted, the number of licensed pool That makes sense. Interesting. Going, wow. Which Paul Newman's my favorite anyways. To the point where like everybody Oh, yeah. Not at all. Well, he shot a ball with follow and lifted the cue up at the same time.

2:08:58 It looked okay. for sure all his all his roles he kind of steakhorse oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll think of it in a second god damn it i know it's on the exactly and yeah it didn't take a whole lot of words to get the feeling of what you know Because back then they didn't have very many movies. A hundred percent. Really? Wow. I think that was the thing about The Color of Money.

2:12:14 It's a great movie. yeah i mean i you know let me correct that it was nominated for most of those i just said oh Probably they filmed in a pool hall. so I guess I don't know whenever they're writing now if it was the time they're writing it or the but it wasn't going to be any real action for 200. So let me just kind of evaluate him. So that kind of stuff happened a lot, actually.

2:14:31 Big dig. Yeah. A guy I worked with last night. I did commentary with him last night, as a matter of fact. I think it's just going to go up and up. Hell yeah. about it well pool you're the man yeah uh well thank you jeremy thanks for being here i appreciate