Joe Rogan Experience #2037 — Alex Berenson Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day And I even had to do this recently with some close family friends. health officials everyone should be saying that you should really supplement with vitamins. You mortality score yes just just a little bit And they only live 13 years, right? Yes. I was playing poker, that like, you know, gambling is,

3:18 We're not. that I think have very good perspectives But not available for most people. I mean, obviously my career, I wouldn't, well, I guess I was on with you one time before COVID, you know, talk about cannabis, but- I think when we talk about these things that some people like to use recreationally, like even gambling, like you talked about, we have to be aware that there's consequences to these things, too.

5:17 And he had a pill problem because he broke his neck like five times. But he got hooked. Judo. now painkiller he said he tried an Oxycontin once recreationally and he was Here's the flip side of that. didn't pay. Right. Okay. So you could do it, but it was discouraged and not that easy. Right. Now But you've got to go get it. Our residents should be able to gamble here.

8:51 credit card advance machine for the fifth time that weekend. They can't stop. So how do we I think putting it on people's phones is a mistake. in making good decisions in the future? I think if I think for people who want to stop, that can be helpful to them. I don't think I don't need, you know, I don't need to give my, you know, volition to God. This is a problem I'm

11:29 who made it out of it who was telling us about this rehab guy that came in cracked out of his It's not easy. Like, Johnny's out there in the woods doing heroin So. So, OK. So the roots of the opioid crisis are exactly, you know, Peter Berg. I guarantee you there are people in China who have not forgot the opium wars in the 19th century, the U.S. and Britain.

13:57 We just want to pretend that they don't do them anymore. And when you have that and something comes along and says, hey, there might be something afoot here. that's, oh, this conspiracy theorist. I really do. I wish there was was perfect too. I really do. You've got me laughing. Shit, you know? the amazing show on Netflix, But if you follow those rules, these chimps behave as if they're just chimps in the jungle.

16:57 the ones that can go on the longest that's the same thing with human beings it's like god damn should not be allowed to have it yeah right like and the only people who should be president people He's just going to fall over. Blue screen of bats bro you got control i'll delete charlie before this fucking train crashes but but you can do it if you know you're a high-ranking

19:17 I don't even know if it's a giant staff, but a competent staff. the thing is man when you get out there. What are you going to do? Why shouldn't there be a top limit? senators could go and meet with the And they've got a really good grip on it now. I'm going to take advantage of it. They run studies in a way that determines, you know, that gets them to the outcome they want.

22:11 That's what's interesting. And that's part of the problem with business and medicine when they're together. The other way to do it is saying we got to fucking get you on as much shit as possible because the more stuff we sell to you the more money we make yes and and if there's a reason to recommend it we're going to recommend it because you want to make our

23:45 are trying to do it. It's like there's a whole system. So with the drug companies, and I think money and medicine are all combined. And it's not saying that doctors don't deserve money or And it's okay because maybe it benefits them. But isn't there a fear that you label something COVID death, you get more money, that people would use that on things that weren't necessarily COVID, especially if there's no oversight?

25:53 We cheated a little bit there. And this is still going on, Joe. I mean. Good question. You know, like, you just, like. But. the back of the eye. They help you. So these are administered, ophthalmologists administer them who's using a lot of this, the company is cutting you a check for five or sometimes six figures, Is there a way at this point or is it the system itself?

29:49 Right. you get it, it gonna it's gonna be for-profit aspect of it A lot of them are. Because to bring a drug to market costs so much fucking money. The great gains for human longevity in the last 200 years have been really simple things. I have not. That's right. And a lot of those people got horrible diseases because of that, just like they did in the olden times, like we know about when people dump shit in the streets and the plague came.

34:12 more money on medicine, trying to like continue that growth in life expectancy. And it turns out You ever see what he looks like? That's right. And it's not just. Wow. Jacked. It's great. Yes. People forget. People would just die and left and right. Bacterial pneumonia, and what was the other one? The fear was always that the Spanish flu happened today.

37:25 This is a conspiracy theory, and this is getting you kicked off YouTube. I didn't say it was made in a lab. a ferret when they were supposed to inject a mouse. around swabbing a bat's asshole to try to like find a virus so either way it's the fault of our You want the proof that it's useless? If you're Dr. Evil, you're going to fucking open the hatch.

39:30 Like that would never happen again. I mean, we have to figure out a way to like catch up to our abilities Pretty astonishing. That's like the folklore behind UFOs. When you see all this UAP stuff and all these people that are whistleblowers and they're talking about crashed retrieval programs where they could recover crashed UFOs and back engineer them.

41:44 Super hyper advanced technology. You can go faster than the speed of light. You can get to Earth. believer in this and let me tell you what please tell me you are an alien okay you're super hyper We try to rescue other human beings. And they claim that there was actual live beings. I think he was dead in less than two weeks. Who the fuck knows, man?

44:11 1952. encountered them i i believe those guys sober sober like american heroes. Yes. Like David Fravor. Yes. That story is insane. But I tend to think more than ever that it's a drone and that there's some sort of a drone program that they've kept secret that is insanely powerful. But meanwhile, what it is is we have super sophisticated tech that your tax dollars have paid for without you having any idea it exists

45:53 you talking about like where have we looked i'm not saying they're not out there i'm just saying You know, a long thought instinct fox becomes a major news story amongst academics. Toxoplasmosis is a cat parasite that grows in a cat's gut and when it gets on rats it rewires the rats sexual He said there's a disproportionate number of motorcycle victims, crash victims that are toxoplasmosis infected. At one point in time, France was like 50% of the people had toxoplasmosis.

48:02 Because feral cats. in the United States. They love to watch organisms. If you think about this weird thing with primates and us, we're so far past them. the biggest mystery in the entire biological record, Sister a dick you want to see what it looks like Do a couple different versions of it. Come on, kids. OK, but here's what I'm telling you. It will never happen. There's far, far too much at stake for both the pharmaceutical industry and public health and the Democratic Party and the media to even consider allowing that to happen.

52:08 forget it. It's just a reality that people would sell things that don't work just to make money and they could put you at risk. Yes. My best estimate, and I haven't been able to lock it down because the numbers are really hard to find, Yeah, it's a lot of money. mean if you if that's what your company does, right? I wish that wasn't the game. are so strong.

55:24 So the per unit profit, once you earn your nut back yeah is phenomenal phenomenal you Borla is the CEO of Pfizerizer foucher we all know But you know what? But you write about other things in Substack. You write about many things. And who talked to who? It is a nice gig for a couple of meetings. Think of it at best as a therapeutic that needs to be diagnosed in advance of infection and has bad side effects.

59:09 By the summer of 2021, everything changed. And you can read stories from the spring of 2021 talking about the miracle, how COVID went to zero in Israel, basically. So by July of 2021- Can you explain to people who don't understand how that could be possible? you've got this great head start where your body's antibodies can can attack the coronavirus and keep it from infecting any of your cells.

1:00:59 There are just going to be errors in its genome over time. variants slowed way down last year and Yes. Yes. Ideally, you do not mass vaccinate during a pandemic. worse. And that was the mandates. OK, the mandates were unforgivable, unforgivable constitutionally, unforgivable medically. mandates. Let's just pretend the vaccines actually work for a long period of time. Okay. And let's

1:04:46 and get them vaccinated. They were designed not to work, but to be something that the president That's right. That's right. Here's the problem with that. so we put sunscreen in apples. thing about fluoride in the in the in string water is a very very very i don't know that there's any The wackiest ones, it's to make people dumber and more docile. gave people horrible anxiety.

1:08:17 Maybe they were just afraid and stupid. I have no mRNA, no COVID vaccine. Our patience is wearing thin. really get sick. It's just, the weird thing was the ignoring of natural immunity. Yes, that is true. Did you take the vaccine? No, no, no. They got us. when those rules turned out to be bullshit and actually detrimental, So they announce more. You tweeted something about the numbers.

1:12:40 to 300 cases of myocarditis. So So maybe you save one person with those million doses, to the main, yes, this is what it says. This is what it says. So the CDC's own data admits that you get 100 to 200,000 severe side effects per 1 million doses? Yeah. So that, I mean, that means, have this if you were going to go. Putting aside the fact that you're taking away people's

1:15:09 all in on it yep i'm starting to mask again you know like yeah they're masking they're doing in what DeSantis is saying is what the rest of the world is doing. We're the ones who are the All right. It's weird. But just to go back to vaccines, you can't get unvaccinated so if you'd taken two or three During the pandemic, being vaccinated and believing the science and trusting the experts became part of the left's ideology.

1:18:21 So they don't like anybody they can't categorize. because there's so much variability. at the craziest Like, you got to go all the way with all this fucking kookiness that's on that side. because they're like there's got to be a way to stop dictators there's got to be a way There's people that have like smart people that have openly said maybe we should amend the First Amendment.

1:21:06 70s, there are these Nazis, Nazis marching in Skokie, Illinois, and the ACLU said, we're going Like this is a problem for all of us. a Virginia state office. Filthy. both disqualified themselves from political office. Not because I have any problem with we, we say anything about it. And if you're on the right, you know, Lauren Boebert was just having a

1:24:27 Wow, she's a lot of fun. I mean, listen, adults are going to do what adults are going Adults. Well, the Hunter Biden thing is the greatest example. Yes, we don't want to stigmatize. Yeah, he still refuses. and those business dealings made when he was in the White House I mean it's crazy how much money Jared Kushner made when he was in the White House.

1:26:45 What about Trump? It's like, they should make anything on the left, they go, what about Trump? What about Trump? Right. I don't know the details behind that. What do you think of RFK Jr.? What's really important is his work as an environmental attorney, I really do. challenging. I would be like, what a show. They're putting speed cameras up all around L.A. now.

1:29:46 So you're still leaning towards not interviewing Trump. 11 miles over? hold on a second. You put it that way. But if that's the case, because, like, those fucking street takeovers, like, that's bananas. Yes, they take out one of those bikers. a moron. They're going to try. Those things come sideways oakland wow informal social gatherings of Bay Area youth.

1:32:20 Have you been to the Bay Area recently? Here's the rules. It's part of their culture. Fast and Furious is about races. If your car's clean, bring it. Yes. Yeah, they did one of those here. cars and they just get on the gas and the thing spins over people's houses. Oh, Jesus Christ. I think that's a Will Ferrell movie. Yeah, that's right. No. God. Yes.

1:35:22 decided what was acceptable and what wasn't But you get mad at me that I won't use that made up word. Like this is bonkers. This is just They just want you to comply. Yes. Okay, I'm pretty sure I saved it because it was so bonkers. I was like this can't be real I'll text you, Jamie. Mazarin Banaji has come around. Racist attitudes still exist, but much improved since 1960s and most don't act on them anyway and DEI now.

1:39:47 Yeah. Why DEI training doesn't work and how to fix it. We would have to read the article. It's just too much trouble. You can't just like decide to just do something about the fruit. there's nothing that's worse for parenting than parents of young children using drugs. And as a person who believes that freedom is one of the most important things, I don't believe that.

1:42:58 and drugs and coke and they're going to do wild shit. Yep. And, you know, people are super unpredictable when they're fucked up on drugs. You ever go to Europe and see, like, kids are allowed to drink wine in Italy. If you live in Europe, it's normal. That's right. And what do we do about that? They didn't stop people from drinking whiskey, but they stopped them from drinking good whiskey.

1:45:16 It's it's kind of amazing But if you have a regime that is really strict on drug use, Yes. Have you ever seen that video from when they first started telling people you can't have an open beer in your car? if you could have a beer their behavior Drinking and driving here Maybe, yeah. Yes. Those cars, they fall apart too when they get in accidents. It's been like I started to write and I haven't had time.

1:48:59 When did this become, was this always the case? both sides, it's kind of undeniable. but he was asking them, Right. Yeah. Here's the other thing. it was a nice flat line. who's a physicist who to explain all this. I'll buy 5%. Well, I appreciate that. are a lot of your vehicles tier four already or the vehicles that you know about in the industry? and taking out hydroelectric dams,

1:54:06 an even more basic problem. going to stop building what other countries are doing and our ability Listen, we can have a decent relationship with them. they're competing, but they're also, you know, selling each other stuff and their economies rely on each other. Economic sanctions are the most devastating. Yeah, I think we'd be mistaken And one of them is plastics in the ocean.

1:56:53 They just use it and put it in landfills. Humans are so fucking weird. if I had to put my, most likely And I think one of the ways that, again, aliens they're hiding it but now they're talking about it. I'm like, oh, you guys probably are still hiding the aliens, but you probably back-engineered some shit or developed some stuff on some completely independent, government-funded, black ops branch of physics where they knew something about magnetic propulsion or something.

1:59:02 Yeah. I don't know. it tricked me into thinking that I'd been abducted? real they have like different levels of dreams like some medications you take give you wild Because that might be how they This is Representative Interesting. everybody come in and see the UFO. engineering they could explain it if someone explained how maybe they don't know how to get

2:02:58 This thing designed to carry three foot tall people that operates on some sort of gravity generator that calls bullshit on things. I would say just vaguely. You're definitely in the NSA database. It'd be more likely That's right. This is why I'm so aware of the games the companies play because I've been writing about it for so long. There was a slight shift.

2:05:40 I was in Las Vegas, actually, in 2003. more wrong than what happened was that Trump got elected. OK, Trump got elected and it broke the And that's how it felt, right? Maybe we would. That's right. Remember that? It was weird. I mean, Well, But he could also direct the Justice Department to drop the prosecutions. Nobody really is accusing him of crimes like that.

2:09:45 That's right. No, it'll be terrible. But if he is if he's in jail and can't campaign, his supporters are going to think it's terrible. The only reason why they shut the fuck up or you tell them to shut the fuck up is like a threat of violence. unfortunately that's just how it goes. It's real dangerous. to happen you know a year from now one year now, we'll be right up to the election.

2:12:42 Like, how is that even a thing that hunter biden gets it and he doesn't this is such an amazing place is the freedom of speech. And if you're going to social media and the state of Louisiana sued over social media censorship. talking to social media companies and trying to pressure them when you, they've gone too far. OK, now, from my point of view, I've basically been proven right in terms of most of the concerns that I raised.

2:16:15 companies. And the White House is powerful. And the companies have a lot of interest beyond, that's in black and white. But the point is, it's and this is the analogy, because I think everybody gets this. When you get budget. They can, the president or anybody on the COVID team can call the New York Times at any time That's right. then who would retweet me and really wanted to hear what I had to say because, and they

2:19:33 talking about truth. And if you've got a government that's trying to stop truth, like that's, That is what they know is the biggest problem for them because they can't say I'm lying. But the difference between Miss and Mal can be kind of hard to distinguish. Let's hear what it says. Okay. Incorrect or misleading. Yeah. Malinformation reversed to information that stems from the truth, but is often exaggerated

2:23:04 was intent to cause harm to pfizer's profits right obviously we're going to say to the judge in my case, look, look what the Supreme Court just ruled. And the company sued and said that violates our First Amendment rights. unless you police your website, like telephone companies, basically what you're going to say is everything that everybody posts

2:25:53 hall that everyone should be able to participate in? stepping in, would the market figure it out? Would sites like Rumble or these other social media platforms that choose not to moderate that heavily, would they rise now? A lot of and all this stuff over there It's also people that don't like the fact that Elon Musk bought it because it seems so outrageous.

2:27:25 No, I presume he'd charge a dollar or two a month. What a time. Oh, no. Yeah, I did. Just glutton for punishment. Did you interview, have you interviewed DeSantis or Vivek or any of those guys? what is it like when you get in there? He didn't. and you're like yeah what's my agenda But you'd have to listen to a lot of other stuff. I would feel bad. I would feel bad.

2:30:58 He's too old to be the President of the United States. handsome, no, even though California is a mess. Like cleaning that up, boy, I do not envy anybody there. Because people have to really But he is not connected with the voters at all. Yeah. is just kind of unstoppable. He's a giant figure. He has regular-sized hands. That's so anti-liberal and anti-progressive.

2:34:28 If you want to get mad at him, get mad at him for the things that are really changeable. But they look at him as a figurehead and they say this is bad and then they really believe because he said it I don't know if he won. course of human history, there's probably never been an election where there's zero everybody in power, including a lot of Republicans, I think, wanted him out.

2:36:33 And then the Dominion stuff, the voting machines. I don't mean that. the mail-ins when they count those. And that's exactly what happened because he's very politically aware. That's right. Mm-mm. And they did it on the show and changed a vote on the show. Wild. I'm not saying that, like, I'm not defending what happened. Which is probably a good thing.

2:39:34 Interesting. That's right. And ultimately, also, they did break the windows. Just like, how come you didn't show that part? Yeah. Yeah, that was bad too. they're not thinking these people aren't thinking and they really do but that's also the problem if Look, when your own vice president says it, you know, Mike Pence basically did everything Trump asked of him for four years.

2:41:51 It's just I wish there was two people that we respected. Who knows? What if that happens? You're playing the role of the liberal parent with the climate change. We can focus on it now. Please, exercise a little bit. Like Dr. Lena Nguyen was on CNN, which is the most mainstream thing out there. agrees that school closures, I mean, that one agree disaster should never happen again shouldn't happen i mean i was talking about that

2:45:45 aren't giving them that have better outcomes and you want us to take our advice? And real data about how many people it could have helped. We need to, you know, reserve these vaccines for You really did. Thank you.