Joe Rogan Experience #2045 — Jimmy Carr Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. I'm like in Austin, Texas. That's what it felt like, Joe. it's so set up from the comics point of view because it's that thing if you go yeah it creates a bit of a community Well, it also seemed like I kind of had to do it. He said, comedians, we're out for ourselves, So you doing your thing, Yeah. and feel like they're part

3:10 We change their physical state. the live experience is so incredible for comedy even as opposed to music because what you get They breathe with the performer. Why do people want to go to music festivals and South by Southwest and Glastonbury? Unless you're a singer-writer there's really not or an author those are like probably the only other people any other mass form of

5:28 It's not about being edgy particularly. And so we have more open, meaningful conversations. And in my club, we lock up the phone so people don't they're not self-conscious and they're also not distracted. Yeah. or whatever. aware like it's it's performative being in a crowd like we're not the only ones performing to be that person, to dance and to clap along.

7:56 pozitsky last night it was awesome was it fantastic oh she's so funny but it's just it's fun it's fun I'm slightly jealous of the club. I'll be honest. I sort of saw the club last night. I'm like, this is quite something I think, here's my vision for it. It's like that thing of like, it feels like less magical thinking and more okay let's put down a language like music you can write it

10:10 a dumb idea to teach stand-up comedy and to say well everyone should give this a go because even They've got like some idea. know guys that do this for a living and are doing great that that do have magical thinking well it well, I don't sit down and write. The rest of us just go to work. the kind of the, the instruction manual early on. Yeah. So, cause, cause then what they're having

12:53 Yeah. where certain people kind of come through And David Tell's like probably one of the bigger ones. they don't get the credit they deserve. It's almost like everything he says is in that comedic tone. I mean, there's shanks for the memories, which is great. It felt really. And those shows, whenever there's a festival and those guys come and play, it feels like, oh, well, that's the late night hang.

15:26 The team sucks. I need to honor that. Yes the world ordered a stand-up comedian. I need to honor that. airplane material yeah you know it revolves around what they know it's hard that work-life balance Yeah. And I thought I did very well at dinner. Some people live and die that will make me feel like an imposter. I want to play arenas to teach anyone.

17:51 you should always feel like and they're introducing their name It's a terrible thing when you get like when the applause is louder when you walk on than when you walk off. It is. I mean, partly that's the thing driving it. decoding that and they could, At the moment, Well, one of the things that we set up at our club is two nights of open mic nights so we have open mic night on sunday and open mic night

20:14 Of this night, of this thing. You can get together with bands and practice and put it together. Comedians leak is always my kind of theory. Yeah. and the show would be a hit. Great. That's all gone now in the age of kind of global and they all know who you are. I was like, that's interesting. Yes. So if I go into a club, I'm very disturbed. They're serving drinks during the set.

24:01 Christ could come on stage and they'd go, It's like, well, let's cut him down to size. That's what's really cool. I can't see why. He doesn't really want to retire. the weariness he just leaves his house, So the airport lounges and the delays and the early mornings or whatever, the flights, the whole thing, you have to embrace it all. How you are in your head.

26:59 Gratitude is the cure for resentment. where you sort of go, well, now. Everyone smelled disgusting. It's, it's an extraordinary, Everybody before that was like, It's either this is, it's binary. He doesn't. that exposed was assassinated So hang on. I would love a documentary on him as well. Motherfuckers. Yeah. the Zapruder film. How many concert gigs did you do?

30:55 and I'm going to be at the Laugh Factory because this is very heavy. What you're seeing now is in slow motion so that you can grasp what is happening. This is a film Okay, so the cars are coming along now into D.B. Plaza? And now... There was a ton of eyewitnesses that said that they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll. release it. It's very it's a very odd. I mean, conspiracy theories are like that. They're sort

34:32 There was no YouTube. 12 years. And when he aired it on television, it just opened and it appears he's getting hit multiple times from multiple angles what's your what's your feeling on it i mean Wasn't there a deathbed confession from E. Howard Hunt? keeper of secrets regarding who killed JFK. He thought that secrecy was abhorrent. What I want to do.

37:35 For that thing of like going, what we need is some of those guys from the deep state everyone has a cell phone. And back then, you know, there were a few people that were enthusiasts that had their own personal video cameras. Just hiding in plain sight. He had a big show on TV called Jim will fix it, which was him making dreams come true for kids or whatever.

39:08 I mean... Not all bad. the only man in human history But the, yeah, no, he was hiding in plain sight So it was the idea that the minister for I think the Ministry of Defense was having it. So I wonder what he was doing for the police or for the Secret Service that gave him – But why do you presume he was acting alone? been molesting kids. example of that, right? I mean, you cannot say Catholic priest without someone thinking pedophile.

42:21 This guy could read. The Pope was a genius. of regular people, So all of that stuff that comes after, downstream of that, like the plenary indulgences, this I had heard that it was connected to celibacy and that initially there was no celibacy clause. That's interesting because what I had heard was that they were banging all the women Yes. Done. Just like rock stars because they were probably the most popular people in the town.

45:13 okay, so let's say you're a gay guy in, And I know I'm not about that. Pedophilia was the same level sin in the eyes of the church at that level. I mean, that sounds like something. and that that should be okay, which is, you know, it gets very sketchy. They shouldn't apply to us. And then at 18, maybe. thinking that, like, is this illegal? Because it kind of technically is. I think if you're dating

48:41 but I think, broadly speaking, don't be a pedophile. which is 18. Anthony Wiener, Scott Wiener. I mean, that's. So what that seems to me is like there was a law already in place giving judges discretion, but it was only for vaginal sex. At some point you have to give people agency and go, like that's completely reasonable. Do you think? That seems silly, especially men and women.

51:46 He's never going to recover. He got high-fived to death. I think it might have been Galifianakis. versus men having sex that with a woman is being taken advantage of by the man like that they don't What's that book? knowing what's what's safe and what's not safe and having experiences with people that are sketchy so I don't know if that exists. people that are 16 and 17 years old like when I was in high school, the first girlfriend that I had, she had a single mom.

55:10 and mature than I was. People mature at different speeds. When you're 19. and you get shackled up with these student loans then I can see an argument to say, well, on academic merit, we cut the number of places If you get a student loan, you are never absolved of that debt. You must pay that debt. And the And it's pushed on people because everybody feels like they have to go to college or they're

57:46 Something like that. You know, someone with an MBA or someone who's got two failed startups? I was terrified of a job. Discipline and freedom seem to be the two things. And obviously those things have been separated in our minds. everyone's got ideas everyone talks a good game it's in the execution yeah it's in doing it so And then their bodies were deteriorating

1:00:07 Do that. Yeah. I was also not around people that were following their passions. And that they were surviving and thriving, teaching something that they loved. And you're pulling people up. Yeah. So I reinvented myself a couple of times. I was a ne'er-do-well. He's a fucking loser. Isn't that a lovely feeling in stand-up? Yeah. creative. I think it was that part of me that wanted that. It's like, I've got an outlet now.

1:04:45 Right. I just want to go have a meal and go to sleep. And that thing of the things you own end up owning you. learn from each other if you're a lone person on an island out there taking risks it's very it's you know when you talk to an airline pilot they tell you how many hours they got in the sky yeah and i feel like i was on stage how many shows during COVID is I took like four months off, you know, because everything was shut down.

1:07:34 Cry me a river. You set up your own club. I guess whoever, that Jimmy Savile guy's got more power than you fucking think. Yeah. What do you think it is? You guys are talking too much shit. Pause? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember. and you don't know what choice to make But it's not like being a doctor now. to know how to get irreversible decision. If you have a kid, it's a big commitment. That's forever. Great. There's

1:10:16 I was chatting to my friend Chris Williamson who does that. super simple trying to try new jokes at every single show. Doesn't matter where I'm doing a gig. Have to have some stuff to do tonight at the mothership. Work hard now for a better life in the future. Even though if you're successful, Yeah. there'll be a something else you need to do. tasks with an end,

1:12:31 Like finishing school is kind of, ah. it's the never-ending task of going could you be better at this yeah because there are people doing I go, are you ready to be a professional? Charm and charisma. We're going to find common ground here. It's, yeah, interesting. I mean... well, you don't even know what game you're playing. Maybe 100. This is the ground floor.

1:16:11 It was the idea that there's been 100 billion people so far, right? like in the jazz clubs in the 30s this is yeah how exciting is this life you go and when someone with real jobs they get to do something that fulfills them, that makes them truly happy. you can apply that to all aspects of your life. Yeah. I wrote like a self-help book It's like if you think about what's the core skill, it's pattern recognition.

1:18:51 through verbal dexterity. Yeah. And I would get out of there and I'd go to the gym at night and I was exhausted. It was making me realize, like, there's got to be a better way to make money. I was just like eating Subway sandwiches and drinking Coca-Cola. you don't really go for it but it's that thing if you go someone told me this thing recently about

1:21:29 Well, I mean, that's very Cain and very biblical. But that thing of like resentment is you think someone else has ruined your life. Give me a second with that. Well, I had like. What's the most fundamental question in life? like looking at the reality of your existence in your life and whether or not you deserve it or Yeah. Or the vast majority of women are kind and caring.

1:24:20 You'll do very well. But I mean, but actively, you know, the altruistic thing of like they're giving away their money. You throw the coin in and you make a wish I mean, for me, I had kids pretty late in life. Now I've got stuff that's. Right. But, you know, if you want a dream, if you have a thing that you're striving for and you don't chase it, that's a terrible way to live your life.

1:27:23 calming for going it's not a race yeah like most comics don't do their best work until they're in the 50s It's interesting that thing of like going, I don't know if you've ever noticed this, You're a, you know, agent provocateur model. Yeah. That's good, yeah. You've got to invest how we think people about smart people. question what do you find easy that other people find hard it's interesting you talked about being

1:30:53 Mm-hmm. I was so terrified When I write, so people, I think when you write, when most people write, No, no. can I read your essays? He said, yeah. I read what he'd done and I didn't copy the essay, I'm looking all over. Isn't that a beautiful's no idea though that you Dyslexia falls under the umbrella of specific learning disorder. This disorder has three main subtypes, reading, dyslexia, writing, dysgraphia, and math, dyscalculia.

1:34:13 So it's interesting. The slowdown processing can affect everything that follows. That includes Yeah, it's pretty widespread. Genetics. Absolutely. Highly genetic and runs in families. It's all genetic, isn't it? Okay, what's the symptoms? Hang on, what have we got? Genetics. Well, it says if you are dyslexia, if you have dyslexia, rather, you're neurodivergent.

1:35:51 It was maybe it was harder for me to do than it was for my friends that were just naturally gifted academically. And being really excited by that. So it's all gratitude. Fine. comparison is the thief of joy to make in your mind. And that's the difference between being jealous and envious, right? If you're you to see like okay i can look at things differently and that would be a better thing

1:38:51 Oh, yeah, this is it. You're in competition with the world to kind of keeping up with people. I'm not doing so great because my mom's a narcissist. But at what stage do we, is there like, take responsibility for your decisions and you have to think of yourself as an adult now and It's a place of love going, you know, take responsibility and do something.

1:41:22 Of course you can. But addressing the root cause of each individual psychological roadblock that you have in your mind, It's like, just like things like magical thinking. I got into kind of West, I suppose, West Coast kind of human development, human potential movement through Shell Oil. So we did a lot of neurolinguistic programming and we did a lot of kind of CBT type stuff, you know, talking to people.

1:43:54 or you could change your perspective on the world. Okay, so the boyfriend doesn't call you back only hates, he hates me. Right. He hates me then. I'm useless when you've had a bad show. And if they don't have an answer, if it's a matter of principle, it means they're not willing to listen to reason. It's like, it's such an unusual thing. think about everything else.

1:45:55 If you've never had Chinese food before, Right. from their perspective and also give them the most charitable take on them that I can. Yeah. I used to think that and now I think this. what research is going to be funded. And so all of those doctors that receive that funding have But I mean, that thing of like, Yeah, it's not. well, whatever you give to charity in a year,

1:49:23 So that idea if you go, was from doctors, from heterodox doctors, Because when you said it's a lab leak, you were in trouble. I think it might be okay to talk about that. that's not right. I want Why? And then a private conversation in a bar, in a car, in bed, talking about stuff. are people drawn to comedy why is there so many comics coming up why are people so interested in

1:52:26 this kind of incredible stuff. It's exciting. It's great, but also there's something else going on And, you know, that I can't see an argument for. Just here. I mean, listen, I don't want to be mean to people, It's called bombing because the sound, Killing. This is this beautiful experience of someone just in there. And I left there, I felt like I was a better person.

1:55:26 it kind of anchors you. You feel Seventeen again. There's something in you that just, first got a driver's license, that first sense of freedom, that album that you had on in Yeah, it's interesting. hide behind a little bit i'm just messing around here but but the the exposing kind of nature of were when you heard that song with the person and it's like really beautiful music it's extraordinary

1:58:41 It feels like music has gone the way of film. It used to be 100 movies came out every So think about 70s cinema and how incredible. He was an amazing guy to talk to. Yeah. Uh, and then it doesn't happen and you go. Oh, it's the same But a lot of movies now, the big ones, are children's movies. Right. I think he came from phenomenal movie i need to watch it again i haven't watched it in decades that thing of like

2:02:13 that I've been really thinking about watching again. No one ever says this. So books is the first thing, right? What's the thing that you could listen to that you go, oh, this is really going to be brilliant. And like, I find that the frequency has changed in comedy. but his gags per minute was led by out from Newcastle in the north of England to come to the club tonight. Yeah. And that was the,

2:04:57 It's really nice. It's like you can't stand in the same river twice. Yeah. No. What is that? But it's also great for looking at stuff and going, I don't need to read that. At the end, you can click and buy it. People are obsessed by diet, right? Great. But you go, well, that thing about going, well, what else are you reading? And old music sort of refreshes these old pathways.

2:08:17 Not this time. I've never read it. Let's put it up. Bike Riders. Bike Riders. similar to what he did was what's that what's their motto the hells angels motto is two can And they found a brotherhood, much like the brotherhood that they had in the military. audiences, wonderful people. Anyway, The accounts guy. Someone joined a biker gang and gone, right, what, what am I, what am I doing?

2:10:57 Someone's got to- Did you just open a comedy club, did you? Mmm, right. I don't know why, but I was kind of attracted to that, I mean, my weird, I've got a weird laugh. So silverback gorillas can have about 60 in a pod. Now, that doesn't sound very interesting. And we do it to show it's okay. Yes. our teeth it's like ah it's fun but it's also it's in the spirit of play yes because it's the same as like what well tickling is if you if you tickle someone in the street try it they're not

2:14:55 it rewards pattern recognition, and you make me laugh, you have somehow or another, Really? Yeah. If you laugh with someone, like, what's that great phrase? then it's very dangerous. and living their lives. But it's very scary. More slaves in the world right now than during 1865 when they abolished slavery in America. Somewhere. what to do with that,

2:18:43 There's injustice going on in the world. that's not really what happens with this whole empire building thing. You know what the biggest industry in the world was in 1903? Those towns were just emptied It's like the story of horse manure horseshit everywhere. They've always got those metal scrapers Horses everywhere. And what stopped it? cobalt wasn't a resource.

2:21:41 Yeah. Are you, though? But yet it is required in order for you to have a cell phone and complain about the injustices of the world. Anyone listening to a podcast is, you know, we're doing great. already got all the weapons. We could already destroy the world. We've got all of that. But the the toxic environmental effect of them not being able to shut down that reactor is pretty

2:24:31 well, you can't deny I mean, most people in the world, Germany shut down I'm not an expert, why isn't someone, like instead of just going, you've got to, You know, there's a desire for it and there's a market for it. to invest in the quickly evolving nuclear fusion sector. I'm sure. which is why they're investing so much money. But I love the idea You've got to go to a movie theater.

2:27:47 Once Upon a Time in America and going, And it's such a... Yeah, it's the way It's incredible. just it's stunning. It is. Sometimes you get it in comedy shows where you go. But you go, there's a certain etiquette to this. and the second time you know what's going on. it does happen. Some people don't care. think it's i think it's uh i think people are fundamentally

2:30:38 Really good. Right. again, we should teach comedy in schools. And if you could just teach them martial arts, they wouldn't do that. it drains all of the anxiety and stress out of your body Well, you're trying to solve a future problem And I presume even more so. 100%. Yeah. Most of them are abused. He's a dick. If you have that in you, go to that. It's very sad.

2:34:44 It's just a lack of perspective. You'll get through it. because we all have a certain amount of discomfort in our life, And it's amazing, actually, the cathartic nature of what we do. writers who's a good friend of mine killed himself he's going through some Yeah, I don't want to put his last name out there. But it's that thing. But that, like, the most important relationship you're going to have in your life is the relationship you have for yourself.

2:37:46 be good to themselves right they can't include themselves in that group yeah there's somehow I hadn't found what I wanted to do in my life. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing. I've heard that about the apocalypse. Yeah. the drug laws, not what happened. What they did was they legalized all drugs. They figured out how much money they It could be some psychotropic, whatever it is, whatever works for you. But imagine the research

2:42:04 Right. You've got Lisbon. but they're both phenomenal places to play gigs, Yeah, you guys did too. Crazy, right? So I don't think the Roman Empire fell. The Vatican. Yeah. So we gave our empire back. We'll have it over here. Is that OK? Yeah, fine. Great. So we've still got that thing of like, So that's kind of Steven Pinker thing. The pursuit of happiness.

2:46:02 air like it's so it's so intoxicating and exciting because it was crowdfunded, the Statue of Liberty. The French people gave money. I would hope. I would hope as well as well I mean Britain has to find a new Fun talking. Yeah, okay. buy the best, come and see me live. I'm Bye, everybody.