Joe Rogan Experience #2053 — Danny & Michael Philippou Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience mirror image on the Joe Rogan experience Did you guys prepare for this? I feel like people would be dumber by listening to us. we've always wanted to make films ever since And we watched a preview, and she was like, oh, it's good. movie covers and shit like that and pretend we're we we like play act through a movie and look at

2:37 Or just, like, someone getting split in half fuck each other up and then we, like, film movies and stuff. That was just... still doing this? It's really immature. And then, like, yeah, we had to... it's a thing first time we went to LA yeah because it just seems impossible. I just want to, like, I want to see everything, how don't really want to be there

5:13 use these people the crew morale a whole bunch of times but yeah so we started I stopped listening. Yeah, so yellow now. I was like, yeah, side effect of the drug. They would send all these big pamphlets. 18. I also didn't try and get over my fear for injection. they were administering it with a cannula. feel anything you can keep it was like So she said, all right, quickly take the drug out.

8:11 How many different drugs are they trying you? Or that. And then they pretty much just wait to see what the side effects are going to be. Yeah. One to two months. And then people started dying off. No, there's this side effect. And they had to bring everyone back into the trial This is a friend's experience. and then you get to leave early. and my whole arm went paralyzed,

10:39 I don't know. Yeah. It was – yeah. No, I'm telling you, Joe, I could not get a normal job. One was recycling, like, bottles. I was, like, to make time go by, was like oh something happened I feel like that's more dangerous than my drug trials Yeah. Like who are these people that are in there? Can't you just check yourself into a hotel? Don't do it.

13:13 No, wait. Yeah, I'm like the nerd twin. Danny will go do it again. So I'm like, oh, let's just do it like a good. And oh I know that if it does like half assed and you go do it I'm going to show you. What the fuck, dude? Some of the stuff was like martial arts for six months, It takes a few years. And then he's like, dude, you should get accredited.

15:50 Or how do we do this rig, this stunt rig? Yeah. Wait, go ahead. Yeah, so this is with a stunt performer seeing who could get hit faster. I might have to send you a link. I can send you a link. But the way that I do car hits is different to stunt guys. But, you know, stunt performers in films, you know, get run over by cars all the time. You don't want it to be – you can always tell – okay, I've got a link.

18:01 It should pop up. on the line or build up to So you guys are doing all this fucking around wrong when they didn't like sticking a knife into a toaster things like that and just putting them A million subscribers. and it's instant gratification. Oh, we were towards the end. You have to be, like... Well, I think that the audience that we built would be like, what the fuck is this?

20:47 Once we had like a minute intro, like a slow intro, us things to we'd never listen to them like if you do this you'll get more and get what you mean We're artists. Oh, no, I sent the wrong one. Yeah, well, we haven't on any medication. Everything goes... That's all right. I have void fights. I haven't been in a fight fight and fist fights people? I want to hear about his last fight. I have void fights.

22:34 Yeah. I definitely lost a bunch of them. It's like a thing in high school. people get mad at you because people are trying to imitate what you guys are doing getting hit stunts and things, but it was done through Like, you can give it a shot. Would you? You don't want to watch people fight. a thing where it's like, the YouTube stuff Have you met David, his brother?

25:27 I remember him, the first time That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. and he was on the floor convulsing It's like a cartoon kid show. and then once I did that, I just couldn't move to Hollywood, We went out there and everybody said no. there's like a stigma like people will go we reached out So Michael was. And Danny was, so we reached out And then probably after three months of them, we were ready to go.

29:01 It's like, what is that? There would be a lot of confusion. We know what it is, but even the kids, of weed. a friend's family was very religious they came and he was like drunk in his underwear vomiting to the way that they're perceiving it. So my co-writer, Bill Hinsman, him and I will work on stuff together okay i know what you're going for and then add notes that way as opposed to like trying to veer

31:35 filming and stuff. But there's... Like what is the process between you come up the concept, creating a script, them giving What is it? I'll try to look it up. And healthy volunteers. with a name like that? Like, oh, it's cool. That was the one where my arm got paralyzed. How to get the script picked up to actually shooting. So he sent them the car hit video.

34:27 They didn't say that specifically. And then it was supposed to be an eight-week shoot. It was worth it to us You get amazing artists like that and they just fucking elevate it. out of herself for real. There was one week we lost seven people, for certain emergency situations, It was so, there was days that we had to shoot Well, we got picked up from...

37:17 And we're getting like, And that came up. Everyone was just crying the entire time. jordan peele send a message like randomly and then uh ariasta who did hereditary he came to the So it was terrifying. a midnight screening as well like they play it at midnight in egyptian theater it was like a big fuck and then he's so you thought it amazing. And I was like, well, what the fuck? And then he's.

40:14 Which is we would joke about it on set. Oh, this is very a 24 this film. This is a very a 24 shot with their talent and it's kind of like Witch, that's another great movie. all these films as well. The Daniels. That's just authentic. And I was like, so like, it was like meeting you. he's cringing we have to like yeah just be yourself and then you know

42:16 I have a nightmare don't worry. Yeah. Sounds like you're bragging. Yeah, which is like, yeah. And it was so good, dude. possession and demonic possession it was like, that was guaranteed theatrical release. He said 8% of Australian films make their budget back. Because we don't sound cinematic. We don't sound when your moral compass isn't Was it like...

45:16 Oh. So I think the way that they do it. there's, like, a list of, like, 30 interviews that you're doing Yeah, word of mouth campaign. And so all those screenings just came word of mouth and they were parading through the streets. Yeah, I was like, man, next time, and I told A24, I was always just sort of hinting, Yeah. I'd love that different Japanese horror that you don't get anywhere else.

48:45 I don't know what the garage is. Yeah. Did you make that movie? in that environment for so long. showing us special effects and all that little sparks. I'm like, no, dude, it has to be huge. Yeah. we said big we went out press the button and like just steam Is that really a person in there? leave the set for this. But then when that happened, But, like, it was good.

52:08 And the first AD was telling us, you can't, We had jibs and the grips, like, and we just, like, get in there, get out, get the frigging, get in there, make up, change, go, blah, blah, blah. We had jibs and the grips like, and we just like had this like momentum that we were able And having all the actors riff it and be in that, there was a certain energy in the room

52:55 It was true because the first day, this is a cursed interview does it feel like something's trying to stop this from happening Once we filmed a video for Deadpool, promoting Deadpool, And then one of the actors Danny he spoke to as well and like but eventually, a year later, we found Yeah, the montage sequence was good. Even like our makeup. Did you guys use contact lenses?

55:36 Oh, pingers. So we had to sit them down and say, it's going to be really uncomfortable, but we need everyone Yeah. and practically. hitting his head on foam. The kid just didn't complain once. There were scenes where we're like, you have to be out of focus, sitting on the bed, man. Up to six hours of makeup. Joe Bird. Yeah, Joe Bird, the kid. It just didn't complain once.

57:16 When you do things practically, it has a genuine feel. The uncanny valley. and you kind of know something's off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if someone sends me, like, a photo, or if I look at it on Google, But they do a thing called bigatures But that's trick photography. You can see the paint. oh there's one there to the right right It really didn't. How about that one?

1:00:22 That's a tough one. Yeah, it does. In your head, does it in your head does Yeah, they look, you know what? I think definitely this white car in the left detail. The color is just like Instead of like one piece of Yeah, the bigger ones. That's 1 24th. what is that That's the thing is, like, when we're recording that makeup, You're just trying to find those magic frames.

1:03:21 oh, look what we've done. But they only showed it for It took a long time to do. Bloated face, who would help us do all the YouTube stuff for free, There's a video that we did Are you allowed to show super violent stuff? Oh, Jesus. What the fuck? Can you take me to school? Very sticky. people say that it was like too far sometimes in talk to me but we're like we could have made that

1:06:16 It's always that thing when you're growing up the ratings, but it was like medium level violence like, you can't watch anything and we had a grandfather who spoke no english and we'd take when you look at things and the horror section, you're like, what the fuck is happening Oh, I don't know. I loved horror movies Damn. Because they're too young to go watch.

1:08:39 And I was like, fucking. I started collecting movie classifications. All the teachers are so concerned, like, But I think a lot of it has to do with whether their parents weren't there or they were there or they were too It's part of you. Oh, Jesus. But you look at that and you see a reoccurring pattern and you're like, is that my fate? so it's like always just ideas going,

1:11:22 like, I feel like I need to get a little bit depressed. night. I would go for drives all night, I'm a bit freaked out. And I was like, okay, I'm talking to this character that's here. of genre or do you want to make all kinds of films? muay thai so i was like training and i had like little like clues of where he was so i was like them are like world champions now and they're like they're just like at the backyard of their house

1:13:53 That's why I think action would be funner. So many people like that. the table and i just couldn't stop crying afterwards and he said that there was a demon It's a this, it's a that. that is attached to me and so he believed that was happening when actually maybe it wasn't. I'm like, oh, can I sleep in there? I remember I went to this place called Kapunda in South Australia,

1:16:35 Fred, his name is. I would have heard a noise and be like, oh, it's whatever. she goes, like, rids ghosts out of houses, boy died in that room. a code word that him and his wife shared. Oh, I can't really connect. A prize pool I think I believe To be sure that the spirit medium was not a fraud. Do you believe in psychics? I would, it might be coincidence

1:20:20 No one's ever been able to do a psychic medium exercise where they've been able to tell someone something that was impossible for them. No one claimed the money. This is the first time ever we've had any Try this thing. What is it? You should really try them when they're brand new. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. They say you're only supposed You should sneak it into.

1:23:15 And then I went to hospital afterwards with this busted open face. It was the main theme of the film. blocked all that out. Once they were supposed to see have just little hints of the history of it. and then another sequel idea, It's that thing that when you're different levels, that's the stuff that we liked you know, characters, And then our poor crew write us like, okay,

1:26:09 she's like tapping into small things like that anything that bothers you just try and express that because it's sort of like it's so engaging and stimulating you have to A couple of three days in there. Yeah, yeah. Three days straight. You should have had the fucking smelling salts for that. Because I was like, fuck. more heightened or more incredible than you can ever could have imagined even like our sound

1:27:51 scene by scene and then luckily they were accommodating. All those and how it was made and is it when you're not attached to it. You can just feel Also having like a group films do it a lot we only did it once where we had like a bunch of then you kind of go, oh, maybe there's something here. It's a nightmare. Because Michael's very specific. And he's like, I'll stick close to the temp.

1:30:50 I feel bad because you record it all organically, After mixing days, we'd stay up all night trying to do the music But I knew what I wanted and it just wasn't coming across. I'm looking forward to it. She's like, let's get a new composer Yeah, he's amazing. I'm like, lower. and Michael would be like, no, like this. And it's a collaborative effort. That's like when everything's working in sync

1:33:34 Make-up gets time and, like, the schedule does. And Jeff, our editor, like we can't accomplish this by ourselves. with your visions. Yeah, and that's the thing is, into what has worked in the past. or something like that where they're, like, I mean, Like M. Night Shyamalan, I liked Unbreakable. And then there was the one with Marky Mark where the plants were killing people.

1:36:05 Is that the happening? Am I drunk? Yeah. Like, that's the kind of position we're in now. Well, there's a new one that we've been writing for three years, well it's it's worldwide it's like a very niche it's pretty it's pretty i guess controversial in These guys are covered with scars. And so when you look at wrestling, wrestling's already a risky sport.

1:38:15 who Undertaker threw off the top of the cell. It's such extreme performance art. it's kind of like when you watch, like, the UFC, you know arteries. deathmatch wrestling as like teenagers. And then we went fucking hard. And once this The barbed wire I didn't feel, thumbtacks I didn't This looks like probably... That's like a wrestling. If yous aren't committed together to pull these moves off, about it as well because your life's in their hands, their life's in your hands. It has to be this ultimate trust.

1:41:02 A little further in. It's just guys smashing each other. Good Lord. Oh, God. Do you feel like if you're watching two wrestling matches, It's like 300 people in the venue and these guys are like risking everything to entertain Oh, Jesus Christ. It's one of our characters on YouTube. yeah a bit further. So that's the one that... Oh, my God, dude. Or?

1:44:58 Yeah. You couldn't. I guess it's different with martial arts. It's not that. I remember when I played UFC 1, the game on Xbox, Yes, performative violence. You're not trying to get hurt. We're trying to explore it. We're talking about Street Fighter right now as well with um capcom and legendary and then yeah By changing the midpoint, we've changed the start

1:47:47 And I need to figure out sleep as well. then a full 24-hour day one. And then when I do finally fall asleep, even if I'm exhausted, Well, yeah, my sleeping pattern is just because you're the same, but you don't have like I have. It's just sort of there's no set time to go to sleep and wake up. And maybe it is just genetic with you. leads you to be so productive, too, I'd imagine.

1:49:49 Exactly. But it has all these side effects. Well, the first page says suicide attempts. more radical or something like that? It's obviously working. But I've done days where I'll fucking smash, go to the gym and do boxing, go sparring. I mean, I might drink one or two. Well, you are. But when I go, I did a full health streak, you know, I go, man. Like, it was like, I felt like I was getting more sleep.

1:52:59 Yeah, I'm rambling. Right now he's training with Izzy. Six foot six fucking machine. This is the dude? do a tournament oh that's Oh, he got dropped? Yeah, that guy's a lot bigger than him. Yeah. You'll see him. At the end, it looked like it. So it's a decision. Izzy was when Volk defended his title fight in that environment, you know. friends with both of them we're good friends with both of them logan uh wasn't gonna fight ksi

1:56:53 And then I agreed to fight him. which I think a thing that we I'm obsessed with it She's like, no. kicked in by six full three guys every fucking twice a week, No, you're not impressing me over this performance. all right, just going to make sure you see that. fighting 220 pound guys? 2.2 times 75, about 160. Balkan Bear won that fight, right? I don't know.

1:59:41 And then like I wanted that feeling of like going out to a fight. I think that's the same thing with the deathmatch wrestling. and I need, I don't know, Oh, Danny. And then I'd get my ass kicked and they'd go, Oh, this guy. Yeah, you should do it. No, I hate it. That UFC Volkanovski's speech after the fight where he was saying that he felt that down

2:02:15 Whenever someone takes a late minute fight like that, last minute, 10 day fight, it's Would he have had more faith in his cardio? Yeah. I mean, it's a perfect setup be through a bunch of left kicks to the body and then through that one to the head because he got really cracked i mean if you watch the head kick it was like head kick right to the are you going in kind of like with that

2:04:28 So it's one of those things where it's like It might work out your way. But it might not is it how take that third that's gonna be surely if you i like when someone goes through a full camp, fully prepared, absolutely ready for this one opponent, because you're dealing with this insanely high risk sport they're trying to not let down the fan base. go to the hospital, neck brace, the whole thing,

2:06:27 Yeah. That's crazy. Can you do things like VR and stuff with one eye? It's that thing. Like if it gets to glasses, just regular glasses, yeah. Mandalorian on just, like, screens, right? you know, Like, movies as opposed to trying to just say where you literally can't You're moving it. was trying to figure out artificial intelligence. I feel like stories coming from the heart

2:09:35 experience. It's a personal single person, so it can't be Thank you so much for having us. Go stream it. listen you guys nailed it