Joe Rogan Experience #2057 — Dale Brisby Transcript
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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Show me that hat, bro. Let's go. Oh, that's very cool. Christmas, really? Is that good? That's pretty close. I'm getting serious. A little bit, but I'll get you a half. I'll get you a half. I was like, my mans needs a cowboy hat. Right around the corner. Yeah. becoming a state for so long like we got this it's brutal yeah some of that some of those stories
3:48 Yeah, I mean just guessing I mean everyone's just sort of trying to recreate those moments and try to but I think And he actually met Quanah Parker. I'm not that far away from meeting that guy. it's nothing yeah yeah that's why people go to talking about changing like i don't know You know just like the extinction people and you guys are like that's a whole nother world i didn't realize like people that don't value human life are in charge
6:34 That's why we're here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's difficult. There's never been a time when people have been alive ever that didn't have problems. That would help. Like, if you get, like, a good regenerative farm, like White Oaks Pastures or someplace It's supposed to be like an ecosystem that it all nature knows how to do it it all works together That would be much better.
9:50 I'm not trying to make like some scientific claim because I'm a cowboy, but it made me, it's like maybe meat is less of an enemy than what mainstream is trying to tell everybody. So the 1950s, the sugar industry paid off these scientists to fake this study, to fake these results, and have it say that saturated fat is the cause of heart disease and not sugar.
10:54 to publish a 1967 review of research on sugar, fat, and heart disease. Who are we going to blame? to sit down and break something like that down to you. That's the big one, man. That's the big one, man. Yeah, I'm on the carnivore diet. I know. So he only had like one or two. That's right. Yes. Well, I got him a ticket last night to your show, and that was how he repaid me.
14:07 That's a real savage right there. But, you know, we need people like that. it was coming out both ends him and tim they're the only ones that got me like that. practice like archery in the morning i don't do jack shit before i practice archery yeah i want And the only way to do that really is to be, like, relaxed and not exhausted. Every day. Yeah.
16:53 But in the comedian world, I'm about as disciplined as it gets. And I just kept thinking like, damn, You know, like some comedians don't like it when comedians use music or when they use Right. So it's like, you could do comedy all kinds of ways, Yeah, that's, I guess my life was just kind of about fuck around practice it record it see what it sounds like you know maybe try some jokes out
19:27 It's like, you know, there's a lot of things in life you don't get a second take. What's fun is you don't know what's going to happen. and fucking around with people. Oh, he's a maniac. Someone's from a specific place, and he's a fucking genius. that was one of one times on fear factor where i told the producers don't do it don't do it i got And I was like, these are fucking bulls.
22:08 That kind of dude. And the stunt bull is like less aggressive. And he's a little, he's kind of predictable. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Good. because there are some precautions you can take to minimize risk, Oh, yeah. their chin goes yeah yeah i mean it's just like fighters you get knocked out too many times then like instantly the legs go and you're like, oh my God, he barely got touched and he got rocked.
25:43 They just want something that makes them excited again yes sir and there's kind of a i think the winning and going down the road fighter that is just they're just hungry for it yeah the actual between the bells yeah that's what's scary career in films you know with the expendables movies and all kinds of other shit i could see him, like Randy Couture's turned into a career in films, you know, with the Expendables movies and all kinds of other shit.
27:43 Yeah, it's really cool. I love Donald. they just there's sessions campfire sessions at night. He really does. Because he was running out of air and he couldn't figure out how to get out of the cave. Don't do anything with people that panic. I'm not saying I'd be something badass i'm just saying the corner of it right into the top of her head and blood starts trickling down her face she was
31:08 Let them fight. Yeah. fence and uh just like crushed his face oh like had to like surgery and like and he just never but I can't imagine guys like Ross or even Tim who have done MMA Yeah. Yeah. Whether we like to think of it or not, think of yourself as a badass, you're still made out of basically a fucking meat water balloon. Especially coming back from an injury.
33:54 How did you start rodeoing? and then the pickup man and the bullfighter. So there's five jobs you do on that rough stock end. But, yeah, I got started young and got on my first bull whenever I was like 10 or 12. And I was gonna do it whether he pushed me or not. getting ready for that fight, When the rodeo's in town I'm usually driving them my dad did it and so like just when i was a kid like i just kind of i've not really ever succumbed
37:10 Like I just know that. And his cousin, like, is almost like a dude who got bit by a vampire. it seems like one of those forks in the road and like when you do try it or do it a little bit like That was kind of me, too. addiction you know like you get physically addicted to alcohol that is one of the ones half-assed like panic attacks or whatever i don't know and i was like oh that's what okay forget we
40:06 Apparently, it's amazing. Yeah. And unfortunately, they're incentivized to do that, which is even scarier. I don't know. get control yourself yeah yeah for sure but there's a lot of people that argue that i went the opposite that fucking kills people causes cancer and it's a real problem and it's contributing to all these Even if it's a small amount, like, there's a lot of apologists
42:58 Who fucking knows what it's doing to us? And I like grain finished, but some people like grass-fed, I think, whatever. And they get taken down. It takes a second. extra nine years on his life as a bucking bull and it's pretty laid back you know he does his know is that what they would normally do to them when they're done with them they turn them into
46:00 I mean, that was not an old steer. Their hormones just go a completely different direction. and heifers will be that way too they don't they're they're not as good to eat as like a And so you grow them and eat them to this perfect point in the feedlot. them at like 600 pounds and almost a year then you'll send them to a wheat pasture and they'll It's so much tougher.
48:49 Like what is it like? always felt that steaks are kind of unnaturally tender anyway it's kind of weird that when you It's called Bizarre Meats, You know what I mean? And they'll slowly bring it up to temperature then. Like, this is my process. Eat and go. and he put me on this big bastard, And then, but your intuition is telling you to get back away from
52:50 And me and him are two of the arguable goats, you know. Yeah. Like, I hate to say that because, like, kids out there that might be listening to this, like, I think you need to wear a helmet. but when JB is smoking a cigarette and he puts that, That's a cowboy. Kai Hamilton on the shoots, he goes hat down all the time, too. Look at that. Like both shoulders done. He just broke his neck the other day.
56:11 Oh, God. roping like like i don't know like i just can't i just have to be down here it got in my blood and But I'm going to get my shoulder redone. And is it, are you getting the shoulder dislocated from hanging on, Right. Oh, so it has to be screwed back in place? You know, I went to go visit Jacobs, and he's like... So this is the video of him breaking his neck?
59:03 Oh, Jesus Christ. They told him he shouldn't have been able to walk out. like that's what i was envisioning like what level of fight is there outside of getting on a bull you and their role is to, when he gets bucked off, Yeah, that's Nate. God damn, the way he landed, that is crazy. it's... Yeah, that's Leroy. Oh man. So right there, Jesus Christ. Oh, man.
1:02:41 Like one of the two. Like you could just have a horse buck with you Ranch in Texas. It's 270,000 000 acres i'm supposed to be there right now where that calf is born and stays on the cow, you're still out there doing like real ranch shit. But, yeah, like if I wasn't here, I'd be there. What is it about it that just gets in your blood like that moved to montana because they saw that fucking show and it's real yeah like people feel that way
1:07:00 and, you know, and I'm showing the world, agriculture and rodeoing is super bright because america is interested the world is interested Well, it's definitely more than just a job, you know, like if you had a, it's a job. And then, like I said, it's got that that that lifestyle passion factor to it where like, if you're working on an assembly line, you know, in a warehouse, when that bell rings at the end of the day, and you clock out, like sometimes like that's it. And if it's five o'clock, you're out of there before 5.01. Like I was in a factory the other day and it was midday and I was like, what are these people doing in their cars?
1:09:37 leaving right at five like they're passionate about it they're roping the dummy or working His name's Donnie. I wish and I pray that everybody had some sort of opportunity in their life other than the great writing and the drama and all that bullshit. what is going on like if you knew nothing about And that's how it's like, how much money did you win?
1:12:52 in a day, but if you blow out a tire, a new trailer tire is 250. So like you got to work You can be wise with what You know, the people really enjoy watching other people that love what they do I'm like 10 rolls in, 10 sessions. I mean, once he put me there, I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm learning. roping riding type competition right the opposite because like he's got these years of just
1:15:47 And then my hands were going numb and I was like, motherfucker. Time off is just so, fuck. And then you start again. where that is your high watermark for difficulty, be like doing autographs or whatever. And like, I just get nervous. every little session there's this black belt that comes over and teaches us. It's one potential instance out of maybe 10 years.
1:18:41 Have you done any striking? all the caveman out of you right just really release it yeah i'm supposed he'll just touch you up was like random people just think they can beat him up oh yeah I'm sure yeah You're not like serious. You don't think I was like, what are you talking about? But apparently somebody somewhere at some point in time has tested tyson fury has gotten in his face just like it's crazy there's people out there that
1:21:21 Oh my God. Yeah, And the guy did something And yeah, he said Dana still gives him a hard time about it every now and then well you know that guy And then he retired. I will whoop your ass in the jiffy lube. story yeah because no one tells the truth about altercations he's and he he i was with him in That's the real problem with road rage. You never know what the fuck that guy just experienced
1:23:44 and trying to be you know be more humble Impenetrable? It's like you're already at seven. Look at this asshole. Yep, and you're already ramped up myself like it does the the the heightened sense of awareness would like amplify the fact that like all the time doing that fighting each other for no fucking reason for zero reason not to save people Five days later, they look back and like, that was so dumb.
1:27:22 like i said that's a that's that's where the true me comes out, I think. I prank called, like. And I knew he didn't have caller ID. sinker and then i just started prank calling a lot of people. like, I mean, I'm still rodeoing, still cowboying, still, you know, living my life. But then there was just YouTube got introduced and, you know, so then it was more about, I don't know. I got to be
1:29:55 And that was kind of my, one of the things I always went to, like it's Rodeo Time, old son. Because you're not thinking about it as a career. When we started out, I never thought it was going to make money. It's, I think that's the best way to do something. And they would probably control it more and fuck with who you are more and there'd be a Like, I don't want to talk about.
1:32:02 It's Joe Rogan and then the audience like Well, that's the best way to do it. Yeah. Yeah, Cam's, he might even be more of a niche than I am, It is his work ethic and the fact that he did all that shit while he had a full time job for the most time. and that's what he always was his whole life. That dude was running 13 miles in the morning and then another 13 at night
1:35:13 Yeah. Provided they stay healthy. and we weren't even filming. This could be my last brawn cry. And like all the intuition is telling you to do this and you know, that's the move they want you to do so they can far away from just realizing. I think, I think the fact that the bull is involved Like, those guys, like, I got to go on Marcus's podcast Yeah.
1:39:21 and so I looked up what benign meant and, but he said he, and he was, to keep your wits about you and stay in control of your emotions and just banking on your training but then once he started like going to all the big bull ridings, like nobody rode this bull, Bushwhacker. and hopefully win. for anybody else and uh anyways that mentality for him to pick that bull 13 times and so when
1:42:16 Again, hat, no helmet. Wow. Look at her face. and all the lights go out. I got the algorithm picked. God. That's crazy. How unusual is that, that a bull's that good? Yep. How long did it take to heal your sternum? Uh-huh. Bull. Pushing against nerves. But it just, it didn'tging disc and they took some of the disc material out. Yeah. Pushing against nerves.
1:46:25 and then it's like now it's this lingering injury, one of half a dozen. And it actually helps you grow new disc tissue. But there's a very big resistance to people being able to just go and get stem cell treatments, although there doesn't seem to be any downside. You've got to go to Colombia. have to have surgery on. Stem cells can't put a bone back, but, um, but yeah, there's like,
1:48:37 Well, it was a little before that. worked on troy eggman tony romo and he's like yep we gotta cut you open do this right here We'll remove that disc. that there's other alternatives, specifically stem cells, I had another one and it did get better after the second one. like i mean yeah three or four months later i'm doing all the normal life things but before i get
1:51:13 I got one of those. and then my hips started hurting and I was like, oh shit, it comes, it's coming back again. And There's got to be other ways to get in condition. I'm like, how is this man doing this? They're just accustomed to a level of pain and discomfort that most people just would not accept. But I mean like his actual joints. sometimes to the detriment of the joint.
1:54:25 So instead of getting a knee replacement, what he did was where the bone bulged out, they cut that off. point where they don't work anymore and then they'll put artificial knees but the problem Yeah. It helps all of us. Oh, okay. Yeah. He's just like, he's like that all the time. Yeah. He's like that all the time. somehow he gets away with whenever he's like no no no i'm not racist you know i have some
1:57:44 When he moved to Nashville, I was immediately like, that he got out of L.A. L.A. was just not for him. That guy's lonely. We're all talking shop in the green room. And I was like, well, this is worth that, man. He's scared he's going to have to live here if he comes and visits? I just stay where I'm at. want to quit when you feel you know especially when it's a you do it for a living you know when that's like you're rodeoing
2:01:00 and it was just, this is freedom. Like they don't get it. hey, you know, there's someone listening to it right now. And so they just make assumptions and they're uneducated. There's not a rope around their balls. like especially horses, like when they feel pain, they're running off. Sometimes they might run off just if they're scared or something, but like, so if they were in pain, they wouldn't be bucking.
2:03:45 don't they're trying to buck you off but if he doesn't want to buck he ain't going to you're It's in their genes. $500,000 for bulls. that shit yeah i think people connect rodeo to what they think of as the cruelest cruelest aspects if that happened to me, that would hurt. Right. of it you know some people do put animals and unapologetically put animals
2:07:49 And we've managed to shield ourselves from it to the point where we don't think we're a part of the cycle of life. something wrong with someone going out and getting it themselves in the wild Yeah. I think that was the way God designed us. Like people don't like other people that like do bad things to animals. good yeah and that's that's real too but regular ranching like what you're talking about it's not the problem i took i harvested that elk i mean
2:11:38 But compare that to just that stun gun when they're going down a chute, you know? mane and pulled his shoes off and put him out in the pasture where he got to go back to dust. all sorts of shit is getting chopped up with that corn. a lot of things get murdered in order to make sure that you have those vegetables that you think are so ethical. You know, like we absolutely need farming.
2:13:50 because humans did it for thousands and thousands of years the same with agriculture i'm sure the When they're new to you and it's your first time seeing it, But if you did it, you'd get it. anything with a bow that's a wild thing to kill for your first thing yep that's that's the big Like I should have drawn on a couple of bulls, but I just didn't like step out when I needed to.
2:16:10 And so it caught me off guard, and I was able to. Yeah, this is my second one. Yeah, but it's always good to get a sometimes i'll be eating too many steaks yeah you know like on carnivore like i ain't a lot of steaks Yeah. It feels healthy. but like i don't do any breads or sugars but but I'll do like protein shakes. That's the most important thing. I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit.
2:19:25 And when I find myself in that state, my brain works better. on sushi because you love sushi and you gave that what you just said and then i heard the deal about is a crazy watching that 110 pound girl pull out 75 pound catfish with her hand yeah that that they'll it'll be like they'll put a box out what does that mean so like a little smaller than this
2:22:05 you like you'll get shoulder deep in that and uh immediately they can they sense you they know That's Jordan. You grab their bottom jaw with your hand, and then you run your left hand under the gill plate Like, that night, I think we kept two and we ate. Jeff does this. And then you grab it take that little skin off that's on there. soon as you cut it up you need to be cooking it pretty quick they can that it
2:25:43 Could you keep them alive for a while? I mean, it looks like it when their jaws are kind of glamping, you know. it's such a rush grabbing them and pulling them out of those those holes man i don't know something haven't gone since i've gone noodling but pulling them out by your hands it's just like it's like But when they are, boy, they, they could really do some damage on social media.
2:28:07 Jeff and their country, they're going to be all right, their country. I'm in it, yeah. And the small window, like you said, September, really like even just a few weeks, depending on where you're at, that you have to like go after them, you know. Bananas. you'll be hitting it very low. But it's just understanding the arc of the arrow when it leaves the bow. So when your arrow leaves the bow, it goes up and drops in. And so you have to have that sight up in order for it to go straight at six yards because it hasn't started the climb yet.
2:30:41 And he has a photo on his instagram of the animal's heart with 30 yards. It's a quick and merciful death. They're starting to see wolves. cams goal was to make more bow hunters and elk specifically and he definitely did it with me It cleans your mind of all your stress, all your things. everything's just fluid and perfect and then watching that arrow fly and hearing that whack
2:34:19 in the video like you know like you can kind of i don't know it was just funny like you can just you you just have to just hope that the wind is right Because there's going to be times you've got to get to that mountain quick. The whole thing is just playing that mind game and not going crazy, But it kind of took away some of the drive of like, That's the way people have always done it i think that's why it's
2:36:51 And there's so much of it. But they're just so different. You're always learning. I know to check the wind. down range so you know like 50 yards to me is a chip shot i got a 50 yard shot at a bull i'm like Do you have a coach, like an archery coach that someone shows you proper? Like I just, I'd have nobody. Right. You know. Cam, I'm sure Cam would help me, you know, he's hey, is my form look? Right. You know. Perfect. Like, I just, I'd have nobody.
2:39:34 He's an excellent coach. too yeah it's like to have a place like we have a place like that in texas archery country which And it's so important to have someone who really knows what to do. And I was like, I don't know. But they got it fixed, and I killed an elk with it, so it was fine. Look at that. This is not a real belt buckle. but they didn't even and it went off the cable they didn't replace the string what like they
2:42:47 And your string was off the cam. It must have fallen off. When they explode is when Either the cam got loose or moved or the string got pushed off the side. Like Cam handed me the bow in February and I shot it a bunch. shut the hell up. But then I would kind of do it, you know And I'd be like, shut the hell up. I felt confident I could maybe kill him.
2:45:35 what i have to say is going to change anybody but just like having listened to like Shit. People that have come from really hard places, Totalitarian dictatorships that dictate exactly what you could do exactly what you could say exactly what Yeah, they don't have that. Right. And put her on a pedestal and say, tell us. And then she would tell us. Well, well, let's ask Park. Right.
2:47:34 Yeah. I mean, that's what Park is. is force. That's the only way to get people to give up their property and to fall in line and to do everything That's not human nature. And through that freedom, becoming successful. And it seems like a good idea because why do so many have so much and others have so little? You're creating this group of people that think that somehow or another people that are successful are evil if other people aren't successful.
2:51:03 Like even just me specifically, like with, you know, But then also, what do I do just on the human level of like making that change or like how do how do you talk about that? I wanna feel that too. brilliant people who but through their own hard work and dedication have carved where the come and take it flag originated. Oh, you mean what if the government
2:53:13 genuinely patriotic that sign up for the military and for law enforcement. They're not interested that's one of the reasons if we take away your guns, the greater good of everyone, if you fall in line for the greater how to live their life like my dad died 10 years ago, decisions on, on like what I would do in certain instances. But then there's other things like as
2:55:57 yourself figure it out for myself because if i'm willing to die for it, then I better be pretty damn sure. Right. That's what I think I mean. That's what I think I mean. They passed the Patriot Act and the NDAA. Like, for instance, COVID. I know in California, there were lines around the block for people Yeah. Change teams. And when you really need that, when you really need to protect your family, that's when you
2:58:25 And it's like that jujitsu for me, that one in 10 year, one in 20 year, maybe never happened at all. I'm just not going to need a gun. Like, but I've known a lot of people though in LA that have is that out here? it's Sandra Bullock I'm sorry. And it's either you or them. Well, it's sound logic. oh man anywhere youtube bull rider on youtube youtube and just dale brisby on everything else