Joe Rogan Experience #2064 — Mike Baker Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. And we could just talk about other things, but... Tell me the real deal. and hamas knew this was going to happen but that the the the the number of days that it took to this sounds wrong, but it's kind of their currency, right? It's kind of what they expect. It's very sad for the Palestinian people. Your governing body of Gaza is ridiculous.

4:08 but you had some staffers who are happy to, you know, going to keep doing this because that's their purpose in life is the destruction of Israel. Well, like, they were just releasing evidence of what they found when they went into the Rantisi Children's Hospital in So at least some of those people, you can shift off of that narrative by providing evidence, by being transparent.

7:54 Crazy, right? And I guess it's naive to think that maybe we didn't have that problem anymore, but it's there. Well, Jewish people have always been saying it, and a lot of people have been saying, But I think that if you, if you look at, again, if you look at what's happening here in America, And not only Rashida Tlaib, but- And you think, what the fuck is wrong with you?

10:11 But, I mean, I get it. And I guess the point is she's one layer of this, right, of this sort of anti-Semitism. And, again, those are youthful people that like to feel righteous about things. layers of this excusing what took place while not, you know, again, we understood that international condemnation would be coming as soon as we tried to deal with

13:41 But anyway. is kind of your lot in life, right? asking who is best served to represent the Palestinian people. Would it be Hamas or would it Palestinian Authority govern Gaza, because the Palestinian Authority govern West Bank, of course. Well, they're saying in part, they're saying in part because, percent of the vote uh fatah got only 20 of the vote so it's not like they want them there either

17:26 But this time is different. This time is, you know, I think a lot of support from the U.S. But this time is different. Yeah. Shin Bet and others in Israel have within Gaza. There's the communications intercepts, But the people who really knew about this were the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the IRGC, which is an organization with the Iranian regime.

20:47 And it's all designed to keep it away from Israeli intelligence. And so the Israeli government became complacent. a deliberate attempt by Hamas to lull them into that state, right? And so there were a lot of You know, I've seen I've seen intelligence failures before. That's what Al Qaeda did, right? And they dumbed it down and it becomes much more difficult. They

24:26 and maintain power and then do what he actually wanted to do, go in there and attack Hamas. Yeah. Hamas leadership structure is enormously wealthy. They've stolen billions of dollars that was is given billions of dollars through these organizations for the improvement of And for the most part, it has been for the betterment of Hamas as an organization, in part because that's what Iran expects them to do.

28:04 And they're flying on private jets. If they know that it's going to Hamas, why are they still sending money? And so now the money that comes from Iran, that's a different – that's – positivity it's not it's hamas chose a certain path and they have to be dealt with right because So like that money is, think about it like a bank account. So sometimes that money is going to a Hamas-controlled business, right?

32:46 revenue stream for Hamas, right, in a sense, even though they still theoretically, they could be You've got, I mean, look, you've got, what are there? Maybe that's a good thing for our people. from the Biden administration's perspective, a regional conflict that expands, right? And not just Hezbollah up get something bigger up north with Hezbollah, you still have the Iranian regime sitting here. They still have proxies,

36:51 to, we have to move in that direction. Who knows how long it could take. So you can be hopeful, you've had about 60 attacks. You've had almost 60 U.S. servicemen injured, some seriously. way they can use it for anything else, which is what they said about the $6 billion that they I know I'm paraphrasing. That doesn't make any sense. for the past four weeks. So sure, it makes sense to us that President Biden's decided that this is okay. So I don't understand. I'm confused over what they think. And the idea that they somehow

42:01 their energy sector in terms of sanctions. And so we should be going after that. deter the attacks so i don't think giving them billion, if maybe that's their calculation, if we give them something, they'll stop. Maybe there is one. It's a new development. They brought in people who were like minded, who wanted a softer approach. And that in part was probably driven by an effort by the Iranians, by the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. They were running

45:53 So, you know, there's there's I know I'm kind of wandering down a weird path there, but I guess. long-term peace and stability in the Middle East, any road you want to take of a serious Because peace and stability means you're – we're talking about Israel. adversary here. We're not trying to become friends with them right now, right? Because that's not their mindset, right? I mean, it's like when you, you know, someone keeps telling their kid, well, look, the bully, just keep putting your hand out and trying to shake his hand and, you know, try to be his friend. Maybe he's just misunderstood or he's lacking confidence and he keeps punching you in the nose, right? At some point, you got to figure out, okay, I got to do something different here. So I think the previous administration, they were much tougher on the sanctions.

50:02 So I sound like a cynical asshole no you sound like someone who actually Yeah. Still is, yeah. this, this world that the current administration is living in. I, you know, hey, it'd be lovely if that was the case, and that was our biggest issue, but I'm hoping that part of this is not, and the permitting process. She looks at coal as a real driver in terms of energy security.

53:24 have consistent of fucked up so hopefully they come to terms on on a couple of things i'm sure one will be the And so I just say nuke now. brief. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Did I just throw that out there? Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah. It's number Do you enjoy diving into all this stuff now because it's interesting and it's the shit that I would be reading and thinking about anyway,

56:47 But you read a variety of them, so hopefully it balances out. So he doesn't have to listen to me anymore as much. And he started there in late August, plays basketball. Their weight room is crazy. It is crazy. Because they know, I want to get to that point. And so you got to, you know, and this is a different example. make those decisions in middle school, right? And that's a hard cutoff for a lot of them, right?

1:00:17 what success looks like, you show them So it was a real eye-opening experience and a very good one. Okay. Cause like, okay, now we have a new thing to focus on and virtue signal. Went away. Also in New York City, I was there while the Free Palestine protests were going on. Because- Yeah. Most of them, at best, are a buck, right? There was a massive protest.

1:03:27 It gets louder. That is wild. This was a little ugly. And it's shocked people, I think. the same thing. Like, disinformation's everywhere. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a And you say, well, you know, there's a lot of people against this. They certainly don't want to lose the youth vote. So what do they got to do? They got to pivot a little bit and they got to start talking about ceasefire or the long pause

1:07:19 What is the China thing? through their Ministry of Public Security, or in some cases, they're actually trying to find them, right, and influence them directly. a report that, who did this? CNN, I think, put this together after studying a vast amount of felt like they had. And I think Meta was also involved in the research, and they've come out And so, you know, it's not as if, again, it's not as if people want to make a direct connection and say, are you telling me that Greenpeace is taking money from the CCP?

1:11:24 more so than going out and locking up mining rights overseas, No, you can't explore. No, it's going to take you 10 years to get a permit to explore for lithium, you know, in Nevada or Idaho or wherever. environmental groups to push this right and create this groundswell and some guy in a city council it, right? It's good for the earth. Now I get to feel good about myself too. So anyway, those are

1:14:11 I don't know. are doing all of these rare earth mineral mines. But you have to admire the fact that they've got a lock on processing. It's a wild scam. How do we control it? I never understood that term, soup to nuts. But I'm like, where the fuck did that come from? I love the Three Stooges. Yeah. I think she's not wrong. If a woman was pretending she liked things, I'd start thinking maybe this lady's pretending she likes me. Yeah. This could be a fucking full-on scam. Yeah. Where. You know? I know. If a woman was pretending she liked things, I'd start thinking maybe this lady's pretending

1:16:30 Where does this deception end? No one has to like what I like. Mark Harmon called it special. But we go back to the same question. Nuts are something to eat for a snack. Was that a thing they did back in the day? and you're supposed to put that down. Soup to nuts. We have to be. Can we look that up too, the bee's knees? Running up the flagpole stuff see who salutes

1:19:12 Do you ever take nootropics? This is the stuff that I take if ever I'm going to talk to a scientist. No, I appreciate that. We already did the sauna. And so, but is that true? definitely speak to a physician, it may not be safe. Recent heart attack within two weeks. First of all, the benefits of it are vast. happens during that 20 minutes is your body's freaking out because it's 185 degrees in there

1:22:06 It's rough, but it extends your cardiovascular output Why would it constrict? I take a lot of electrolytes and I stay hydrated. I always liked the sauna. But it's great for your overall health. So we get on the plane to go from DFW to Puerto Rico, and we're taxiing. I just put a bullet in me because I'm bleeding. So, you know, so it's a genetic thing. Nothing I can do about it, congenital heart disease or something like that. So it's a genetic thing,

1:25:44 well, I should talk to my cardiologist. I think, ah, just do it or I just, yeah, I I'm not you know then again I'm also like I said I'm not organized enough to say well I should talk to my cardiologist I think I just do it or I just yeah I won't you So if you're not curious enough and if you're not aggressive enough and proactive enough and taking care of yourself or having someone who's doing that for you, it's a tough ride.

1:26:53 Sarah and No Name. nootropics from a product called neuro one and i was on this radio station in san francisco uh sarah and no name um and they had uh one of the no name that was i forget what his real name is but he had this stuff called neuro one that uh bill romanowski created after his football career it was a lot of people like, oh, this is snake oil. So we ran two double-blind placebo-controlled

1:28:14 I really like that Neuro One stuff. I'll give it a try. because there are times. what was I talking about? You know, my friend Anthony yeah it does work But look, they're in a bind. there's 120 000 of those are dead but to put that in context right it's it's not even two years yet It could be about 70,000 or so casualties. So it's a lot more Russians than Ukrainians?

1:31:12 There's a lot of reasons. It also speaks to just a complete lack of concern over the lives of a lot of the soldiers they're throwing out there. is pushing offensively, right? They're trying to actually regain and gain some ground, right? You got the Ukrainians. But one of the generals said, we're kind of approaching a stalemate here. Now, you know, their point is we want to see transparency.

1:34:01 And it has been. It's been very corrupt. Going back to now they have to say they've stamped out the problem is ridiculous because alinsky knows that they're still all in because they're right there, right? And so they understand that you can't let because that's what they're good at, how to bust that sanction, right? those sanctions. And so, you know, they've doubled the amount of money that they made in October

1:37:42 You know, they wanted to give him plausible deniability. But it does look like it was a small team operation. And we were in Afghanistan for what, 20 years before people just said, fuck it, we're done. And he's dedicated to, you know, rebuilding in some fashion the old Soviet Union. Yeah. Oh, wow. The Bombas region? in a way the Russian military has always done.

1:42:16 and they'll give in. just understand what your actions could lead to. I'm the only one who can sort these things out. I mean, we've got two fucking major conflicts going on in two different parts of the world that are enormously complex. just... situation, you don't know. We can't we're certainly not going to be able to find stability once they get that.

1:45:41 capability if they thought that the breakout was too soon. And who knows? That sends a message, right? killing sulamai was uh was a good example of what they understand right they look at that and go And that tamped them down. you know again uh you know repeating the same thing over and over again expecting polls. And, you know, he was at the UFC this weekend in Madison Square Garden, and he's showed

1:50:01 Yeah, that was that. See if you can get some volume, because I'm telling you, the fucking cheers of the crowd were nuts. I mean, it was just overwhelming cheers that's for like over a minute This is not like a fucking unbiased sample of the general public. every time they do that, his poll numbers go up. Yeah, yeah. He did seem energized by it. Which is wild.

1:53:14 How much of it do you know how much of it was bullshit? They don't pull security clearances for no reason. talking to Iranian regime members, telling them what sort of the agenda could be for a meeting, One of the things that's so bananas is the overvaluing of Mar-a-Lago. Absolutely. So they were probably pissed off as well. They see the video at the fights and they think, good God, we got to keep him tied up.

1:57:51 it reminds them of the chaos and all the tweeting and everything. And so they're hoping to keep I think there's a lot of closet Republicans out there now. They don't want to say anything. vote for Joe Biden again, right? Based on what they're seeing. But do you think that they're Right. not going to then pivot and say, okay, we, you know, up goes Kamala Harris. She's top of the ticket.

2:00:37 So there's a planning that goes into that. clean your house? Yeah. Like, what do you just Yeah. When you're going, you mean you could have cleaned this up the entire time that quickly? If you're, I know some folks that live in San Francisco, and they are legitimately pissed off, right? And I think maybe progressives are the same way in some of these cities.

2:02:59 It's a club. but I want that land. That's interesting. And I'll live in the carriage house. So in two years, it made $69 million, and they're saying it's worth 18. Hamas political leadership could buy it. with this situation, as possible. Focus on the shit that's happening around the world and the economy. It looks like he's flipped Pennsylvania, right?

2:07:23 got right that's not tough. They're saying, well, it's really good because it promotes it. there are a lot of people that legitimately say, look, you have to make it as easy as possible Because they let them in. And it's a real concern. You know. Thousands of known encounters. seeming capable of taking this seriously, you know, we've got a real security issue. It's a

2:11:35 Oh, look what I did. And when you fly in, Well, never underestimate the power of folks wanting to feel self-righteous. the potential for terrorism potential for terrorism i mean if you've got a million and a about, right? Because that's what, you know, that's how these things get kicked off. And one what would look good? If we gave the Iranians $10 billion, I'll bet that would get those poll

2:14:38 Pull that bus up that's been dropping people off in Eric Adams City. But, I mean, I get it. I go visit a great bar. The waitresses used to wear these cowgirl outfits. of people moving up there I bet getting it's it's it's how people are fleeing location. Right. So, yeah. No, you're right. You don't think that's going to happen? Some of these cats that were running previously.

2:17:48 But, yeah, people just move and they think, ah, I'll just keep voting the way I voted. It doesn't allow them to look at reality. How do you correct that? system encourages the hardened edges to get out and vote during the primaries. So then what do because you have a rare ability to sort of distribute this information and make it accessible to people.

2:20:09 And I keep going to, I don't know how this ends well. fighters, 30,000. Numbers aren't clear in terms of how many militants have been killed. The health They talked about that all the way back in the late 30s right that was when it was first come up two-state solution it The Arab world unanimously said no, right? Yeah, exactly. I appreciate it, man.

2:23:00 I heard. Congratulations on that. I appreciate you, man.