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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience So that's the cutoff for military service. Yeah. what if has a super smart kid, Life's hard when you're stupid. I've got max RPMs going on up here, down here. Yeah, he's not even sweating. of people in the world that could even argue with him about it? I mean, I would never understand who's right. I trust if I can understand what they're talking about

3:37 about i have no idea who the experts are i have no idea what he's literally talking about a theory of everything. You were, which I felt was a solid number. say i ever hit the ball but i was at least participating dude i wasn't just breathing was it Malcolm Gladwell? Like that, of trying to invoke an emotional response from someone i understand why you would do that if

5:38 I don't like, I don't, cause like, first of all, it's not anything that funny. I love that forum for two people to take a topic. And he never loses his cool. it and he has a bunch of like really logical reasons why he's not buying it and some of them game you know you're playing it's it's like jujitsu it's like chess it's like you're playing Yes, Best of Enemies.

8:55 Is that what it was on? Yeah. The people that are above that 85 IQ, what is it, 84% of the population? Yeah, okay, there you go. Isn't that interesting when you think about Bill Maher to stick in their echo chamber they're going to continue to kind of uh propagate out speaking He's as deep in the Hollywood system as is humanly possible. He's a political host on a show on HBO

12:15 That's because he never stopped being a comic. This is what you have to say you support a woman's right to choose you support tell you something. We fucking know who the best boxers are. Because you got to get in there while you're attractive, He looks fucking great. Like that guy, regardless of all the crazy stuff that he said. to be nuts but boy it would help it would really help because they they can lock into a role in

16:27 Holy shit, dude, when he that that's when he He's incredible. yeah was put together perfectly from the from the way that his his face was contorted to the level Amazing. He's insane. Yeah. so that there's places that some people like they don't have that room in their it it's awesome it's like you know that you can operate from. Yeah, that's cool. How does it happen?

21:30 And here's the thing that I think people should put in their heads. Because that didn't go away forever. That doesn't help anybody. Yeah, yeah. well, there might actually be a conspiracy You don't want people to challenge you once you get into power. to all my phone calls. who you know is fucking wearing a suicide vest, Wait, did you see where this was last week or maybe the week before last?

25:37 We don't need to take down the temperature just yet. We're going to open up the barricades and we're going to have federal agents in the audience encouraging you right to go into the house and then when we're under oath we're going to say we can't answer I don't know. That's you. That's what we need more of. one emphasis not taking away your rights because some people can't handle it right you know there's

30:05 how do you, how do you make yourself better? How do you be a better person? You're answering So you have a scarf and you're going to get your latte and maybe you're getting an Uber or you're hopping in the subway. You're not doing shit other than consuming and this is what you enjoy want to live within the, the, the safety and in the sanctuary of an urban environment where you've

32:31 the way through. Dude, I have zero interest in doing that. Like that sounds like a prison to me, I'm just guessing. There's another like 10% of people out there. So when you think about the numbers, when you're doing well like when you have a good relationship you got a good group of friends you And I realized I was like, oh, that's, that's kind of what makes me tick.

35:25 or whatever previous profession that I've had, every day and i gotta wring the sponge out of it if i don't well i'm gonna be just average because and cool people and it's all veteran owned. to learn how to play golf yeah even if you don't you have to you know You have to learn how to play golf Yeah when it comes to business. things out was I've always had to work for something bigger than just myself. Like I can't just be

39:14 they're like now we have all this freedom 360 degrees well you have to lay your own life out a lot of them want to get arrested are locked up out in the street. work like that like i i have the diplomacy of a sledgehammer sometimes and it's not Big fuck up in school. I worked my friend Jimmy Lawless and we I carried cement bags and pressure treated lumber all summer.

41:40 tell you that there's things. They don't say, Hey, Joe, I see how you can't pay attention in class. You're always cracking jokes. That maybe I wasn't a loser. also good like you know i like to you know fuck around with my buddies and I loved it. And I could just go chips in on it. And it built layers of confidence and allowed me How do I define fulfillment?

44:45 and give that to other people? I, They've given me this opportunity to make crazy art and amazing coffee It's white on the inside so I can see how dark the coffee is. 480 grams yielded but then you can see it uh how dark is it how light is it you can kind of um i Right. This is what I'm looking at. It gets right in there in hunting camp, brother, it was the most

47:48 I got angry. I'll get filters, but we're not doing that. They're amazing guys. I had so much fun this year, like, for, you know, the people listening, I guess it's like I got to watch you do like 30 stocks. one spur you were on the other, But then all I heard, Yeah. They're the coolest looking. Smoked. I was just inching towards that motherfucker. I'm doing all these breathing exercises to slow my heart rate down

51:38 You do? So I'm inside the truck and I'm looking in his And I saw them like very briefly. Yeah. It's always a debate. And toxoplasmosis is the reason why they tell people not to touch women that are pregnant, not to touch their cat's litter box. The rat now becomes sexually aroused by the smell of cat urine it also So I've had feral cats. I'm like, oh, I'll get my cat a friend.

55:44 You know what I mean? And then I would corner him and I'd touch him and he would start purring it. And then I'd pick him up and I'd start petting him. And he's like you're the only one I'm like it's okay Fucking hamper and I bring him to this guy dr. Craig who was an amazing guy So they had to hold this cat But only me like no my friends no and even people that were over the house all the time. No one could pet him

58:56 it they're just like fluffy you know they live on the couch basically there's like no wolf left in them like Oh my God. Look at this. They're great. But he's like domesticated. He's not worried about people at all. Like reading that I had, I had no context to just chill in an apartment. It's a real problem. I'm going to send this to you, Jamie, so you can see these pictures.

1:02:55 That's my foot for reference. And they're not as concerned about the gravel in his colon, but they were concerned about golden's name is potato and i rebranded him because his first name was maximus and we were he was, one's potato. life about anything maybe other than elk hunting right this dog is fucking bouncing around he's It's like, I had to, like, creep in on this fucking dude

1:05:43 And I'm trying to figure out when do I draw. you go up I have two bows I have an 80 and a 90 okay yeah so ones at 81 or 82 It's just like so easy. And I just use that one for practicing my form and because it's just nice to have a bow at the studio. It's pretty cool. Right. But they make essentially the same kind of gun with small improvements for years and years.

1:08:41 right and so last year's bow was like this is are they going to top this? This bow is amazing. They pull back smoother. through the bow on the shot almost none of it is going through your hand right it's incredibly like so with the stand the string is just like quarter inch further forward and you know stand clicker the stand non-clicker i think it's the t i've had the hinge i've had a

1:11:00 Right. And there's a lot of different schools. And that's the hardest part of it. That's where I'm at because I had mindset way too tight. It's like, that is the way to go. Yeah. The way to go is hot sauce with a good shot process, when in that particular moment like my heart was pounding as i was closing the gap because i was telling myself that i'm calm once i'm there i'm like i'm not allowing myself to get ramped up

1:14:54 Pow, pow. I have a task, very clear task. If he, if he just stepped and went left, which they do all the time. But now, you have zero now. which is the best thing about comedy is you're doing it with a bunch of other people that are doing comedy. You'd be like, it would be terrible. Where I'm not trying to do that. Like, why is your body doing what it's doing right now?

1:18:19 it seems to just settle down and get right back into the moment. Yeah, once you have the task, once it's in front of you, He's a like you got to go down and all the way up Completely stopped it. It was perfect. like for whatever reason, I never got, the creeping in is like more sneaky than anything. Do you think, have you talked about this with Cam?

1:21:01 It has to. He knows how to stay calm under pressure. Nuts. the podcast the other day. It's number eight in the hip hop charts now. Seriously? In the all The guy's good How's the Carnivore guy I have to piss so bad. Let's piss. We'll come back. All right. But yeah, it's all random shit. It's fucking wild. I felt like I ate a brick. and I felt obligated

1:23:28 That's a normal breakfast for me. Yeah. Yeah, I like squash. We some uh sweet potatoes the other night they were great Right. They taste good. But olive oil is good for you. It was amazing. shoveling them down you're like oh there's where all uh california's water goes right there oh but i was reading this thing um recently but i think the discovery was from 2021 about a new very inexpensive

1:26:20 and you could turn it into drinking water. The last thing we have in California is a water problem. We don't have a water problem. How much stuff do you typically, when you're thinking about, how many episodes have you done now? Elon from Jordan, from all these different people. That's so much information. How much So engineers at MIT and in China are aiming to turn seawater into drinking water with

1:29:03 In the meantime, the leftover salt continues to circulate through and out of the healthy. He said, no, some See if we can find any articles on that. that was a beekeeper that came on here, Yeah. So it looks like what's the best salt? Of course it does. There is definitely minerals in it, but also other minerals in it. Okay, but some can. You know, I don't know.

1:31:55 Here's something Yeah, I love this guy. It's not, I love this guy and I love his product. I think I found out about it from Eddie Gallagher. some in their fucking eyes. Oh my God, is it hot. they're not going to fuck you up. Really? It's moist. It's dry. You do too? uh, Mm. yo, you're not playing. That's legit? Yeah. Like, shockingly. Shockingly hot. Yeah. Like, yo, you're not playing.

1:34:36 And they put out this, it's like, it's got dried tomatoes sun-dried tomatoes it's got um i forget what Yeah, yeah. So we got a shed from that bull and he's making uh knife From an animal that you harvested. Like, if you like it hot but tasty senior lechuga will fuck you up What's the next big thing? Did you build this? LA shut everything down for so long.

1:37:59 And he's doing all this new material and Shane Gillis is going up and murder and Tony Hinchcliffe is going up and murder to get up at the best comedy club on earth for the very first time ever and go up and Or maybe they wouldn't notice it. So the talent coordinator, Adam, had to go and watch them perform and there was this giant audition for door people for people

1:39:55 we up. that's cool. You can throw in a problem. the center of gravity from comedy is moved off the coast to Austin. I mean, I really do I love to have people on that These good things should make more money. able to work on their act everyone's phones locked up so people aren't distracted they're not filming And with a fucking grab of, He goes, you're going to open up that club.

1:42:58 And he was kind of genuinely like concerned about it. And so that was the, you know, this was the second place I bought, right? Fucking beautiful theater. There's so much bad juju going on in that building. how how like crazy you know cult leaders are and what type of personality that person is Well, it's just like you were talking about before, And they don't have people around them that could bounce these ideas off, that they respect,

1:45:27 Like they don't have that in their life. yeah yeah you remember that yeah that's great me and my friend todd were talking about this once Yeah, it seems utopic. someone can come along Especially if you're successful. Like, he must be legit. I just do my best to be like the best version of me that I can be. And if that also, it's jocko or many of these people that like put that out there like jocko is one of the best

1:48:37 He is just telling you what he learned. And that is the best thing that we do for each other we lead by example so you can see a guy who like I right he's just just running his life with a smile on his face and genuinely engaging with people They yell at people. amazing people that they just inspire you through action and like one of those guys i've had a

1:51:19 like runs down and grabs everybody some water because we're putting in some miles he's driving the truck with us and stuff i mean the guys i don't know how many stores that he's opened i don't know but it's also the flip side of that where you're like, this guy is incredibly successful. like that. You know, I'm not where cops are banging on the door at three o'clock in the morning to

1:53:22 him and his girlfriend they look pale and they're oh my God, you guys got bit by a vampire. Like the media world and in LA it's got to be oh, yeah, it's got everywhere Yeah. But I know some healthy people that do coke, or ignore the performance negatives, Yeah, I think that's where, especially if you're in a combat sport. And I know that it's one of those things that I've tried very hard to just eliminate out of my life because of that.

1:56:04 Like you're pretty normal and they're gone turn to drink it which is crazy because it's a depressive it's the same it's very very guaranteed if you came out of the special operations community. And then they, they switch and I've seen it happen too many times to count. now and again and just say, Hey, what's up? How are you doing? Like that's it helps. It does. It

1:59:28 And also just a great thing to keep your head in check, keep your mind right. It happens. accidentally catch a knee to the head and you don't have to worry about killing each other. And it was all just about having good defense and being able to move around away from shots. and you're, you're, you're fucking tuning up on your friends and you guys are beating the shit

2:02:18 early days of MMA in particular, now they're a little bit more sophisticated about it. And they're Yeah. Yeah, out of all the guys. He is hilarious. Go to the volume. But I think the guy was just shit-faced, and he was looking for his keys or something. He jumped into his car and drove off. spot. And he's a champion. Eight, ten clean shots to the head, left hooks in the clinch?

2:05:55 rocked that way and your legs give out At all, you know he spars more than anybody in the UFC and they put a mouthpiece that measures He's fucking dangerous man. So the universe led It's the universe. Every now and then. It's good. I got one for you. This is one of the ones that says sensitive content. Yeah, I want to share it. I'm like, yeah, I want to share it. They said, you sure you want to share it? I'm like, yeah, I want to share it.

2:08:59 Oh, it's someone talking over it. Thinking that they can go he got two guns on him, too How many pronouns? Somebody sent me something the other day. That's all we need to do here. They can't be. It's not like they're making statements, like these are affidavits. Like, yeah, yeah, you should be support trans kids. What are you saying? How much do you know about Hamas?

2:13:23 Like super bad today. Now they're like kind of, they woke themselves out of jobs. Try making that today. Something like that. No way. You're scared. And that's why guys like Bill Maher are interesting yeah because he does he does he's he never stopped being a real Do you guys want to win this thing? They've got to go really deep into these obscure philosophical conversations that don't make sense.

2:16:29 make us argue because they're the ones that directly reap the benefits of all this chaos just listen to what he's saying and see what's happened he is outlining exactly how it would take place he's off by about 10 years yeah I was watching a jujitsu coach online they were talking about whether or not But the problem with that is there's real Nazis out there.

2:18:43 Like they have a swastika on their back. they've given into this whether how what percentage of it it's the communist party, they've got a long-term look and you're not taking into account Maybe you're just gullible. things? And I think these are real questions that we can be talking about. Like a good one is, Yeah. It's a giant distraction. Like, listen, I'm not an anti-trans person.

2:23:26 people are real now all of a sudden you've created a whole category of of sexual predators that prey this shit. And I'm not saying I know a penises and if you don't like it you could suck my dick Full beard wearing a dress looking like a guy in a dress and you're like okay. You might be insane it's not a feeling. It is what it is in the context of spending most of my life overseas and working against these intelligence agencies. You know what they're capable of and you know what they're doing. They love this. We're trapped in arguing about all of these different things because at that point, we're taking our eye off the ball.

2:26:37 under attack from people wanting to cancel comedy because of jokes, that's a problem as a as a country as a society that's a fucking huge I asked Mike Baker and he fucking gave me the runaround. goals and objectives that are going to meet and exceed what we have to do to maintain America Yeah. But when you've co-opted our academic institutions and you've indoctrinated generations of the academic elite and then they've worked their way into foreign service and they've worked their way into the intelligence apparatus. Now, they're going out and they're not willing to implement at the same degree that they might have been able to in the 1960s and 70s by the rules of nature,

2:30:00 they got to fucking die. to decide who gets what? do we vote on where the Click. You're like, fuck that guy. The more effort you put in to figure out how to get more money, the more money you'll get if you're successful. what are you doing because that's the only way he's going to give it up. That's the only way. Far-right ideologies. and he's like, fuck everything.

2:33:31 where you can get arrested if you have something on your phone that could be used to incite like and that's the thing that i i i often kind of like wrestle with with people. It's like you can't take away an individual's purpose and expect or try to and expect that to go well. China has kind of a hybrid system, right? They allow some form of capitalism, but until you

2:35:50 They're out there and they're out there with these very strong opinions that are not very well researched at all by completely rewriting what we would call the history of the beauty of america like freedom of speech yes it is the beauty of america but it's also why they're destruction. That didn't exist. That didn't exist. Not one person stepped in front of Congress and had depositions around, why did you say that there was weapons of mass destruction when there wasn't? Not one person. But we spent how many trillions of dollars on this war?

2:39:51 there's a difference between a war of necessity that maintains national sovereignty and a long And people who don't think that you should support the military, Bullets travel at X, you know, X feet per second. You have a collective team trying to organize against in a very chaotic environment, trying to survive. in the United States continue to pass down through generations because we're so fucking fortunate to have

2:44:00 that chaotic environment that show me traffic rules don't apply over there, right? This is the actual consequence Let's wrap this bitch up.