Joe Rogan Experience #2073 — Derek, More Plates More Dates Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Yeah, yeah. internet, that guy can eat shit. understanding it seems like everyone's uh every time i go on twitter i see jordan peterson shitting Like, what do you mean by that? Currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway. I never really talk about left or right. I wonder what the consensus is of the average Canadian

4:00 and then when people were donating to this trucker movement That's nuts. thing that you have no idea am i only gonna be able to talk about like maple syrup and beavers used in that manner to stop about hockey. Yeah, yeah. So they're all out here. this rigorous exercise routine he still trains with all of the, like, these guys are professional jiu-jitsu competitors.

7:03 He's like, look, everybody does it. This is what I do. I'm the best. Yeah. And everybody. Yeah, yeah. He's not hiding shit. Yeah. He's like, look, everybody does it. Yes. You know, these guys are training all day long. It's a lot of bodybuilding stuff. And then they're drilling, and then they're doing – of course, they're doing live sparring. Everybody's in there.

9:51 I think it's a digital download. Oh, yeah. I was a little kid and you could play a game on the television and it was nuts. Yeah. your adrenaline's flying, you're like, it's gonna fuck my days like it very much saps my bandwidth and the dopamine hit you get from it is insane it's It's probably like fucking night and day compared to the Pong days. When you're running through the water,

13:21 This is Quake. Where there's no real end in sight You're at home by yourself whatever from major video games Well, there's so many of these games like this. It's in this laboratory. thing though oh no that's what's weird now so it's like how it's almost hard i don't even know Do you have a chance here? Yeah, and you sit there and just rack up donations while you play?

17:36 i'm just like i would have never imagined that that would be a gigantic thing like yeah because to chuck money at the guy, pool streamers and these chicks just like put on a live stream and then get in a bathing suit and Oh, my God. Probably. Maybe they put it on a shelf. today as opposed to in the past yeah i've seen uh chris williamson has like uh he often posts like

20:25 Most young men are single in 2023. I'm not even saying players. Yeah. Whatever it is, it's like there's always going to be a thing that someone doesn't like. options in a dating app I've seen people talk about it online, i don't know if they want to admit it or not but it's because happened also recently with those or get a new OnlyFan subscriber from some simp

23:46 Yeah, on OnlyFans. No, I don't. uh i i would think that what i would do is just accept the fact that this isn't going anywhere. shoes? Like where'd you get this car? shift gears and go okay i guess this Because it's like – it ranges from like – That's what Andrew Tate did, right? Yeah. Cause if you're just running a scam, that he's so articulate and well-spoken when he speaks about it,

28:22 Talk about what you're saying and engage with it. and how much of this is like if it's your real feelings that you know these women are subhuman little robot flesh the wild shit they talk about and you know if you can be the most they don't want to be like any of these people they see around them that seem neutered and So. I can't even imagine what the life of an OnlyFans manager or something would be.

31:37 There's got to be agencies that are turnkey. like, you can be on OnlyFans. but like we've noticed your account. That's lucrative. The girls don't do anything besides make the content, look you can do this and you can make three thousand dollars a month or you can do this And then, you know, they're just like pumping each other up like comics would do.

33:52 There's got to be one. The rapper? I want a Ferrari. Damn, she's got a hot body. That's still pretty good. But I don't know specifically each one. I feel like probably not. Wow. I would have to. How would that work? name is devin this tv show on mtv and he makes a lot of money doing that but i think he said yes What does he look like? see this says he deleted his account oh so is it kind of meant him and a bunch

37:57 Go back to that. Well, assuming by this one picture in Reddit that it's also him. They have filters for your eyes. But are they allowing self-declaration? I guess you can kind of get away with that if you're Tommy Lee. When they were doing that show, Rockstar Supernova. Who else was in that? I'm looking at the pictures. And then afterwards, I got to meet Tommy.

40:14 So what were you going to do? What do you, what's your lifestyle? seems he seems like a guy's hit people in the head with a rock before so who and I was doing it for six months so why did it fall through I think because he knew I was going I'm like, I'm going to fucking strangle that guy. I'm like, okay. Look right here. Yeah, he wound up going to jail for tax evasion.

43:47 Dude, it's like the most odd. Yeah, I think she got off, though. Right. She accepted the charges and a fine of 50% of the amount owed, Oh, you just pay an extra 438K and you don't have to go to prison. Usually there's some sort of, like from day one, you're pretty dialed. I've had a business manager for 25 years. that's when you're in the hole of the irs they start auditing you and find out you've been lying about this.

46:31 yeah it's crazy man they'll take fucking superstars and i don't know what her deal was if it was a Federal judge has sentenced Lawrence Hill to three months in prison who has been great? and they've been around forever. that could tell you, you know, this stuff, they're using it in Holland And what was the scheme? doctors, dentists, whatever it is doctors dentists

49:26 that have, you know, been crushing it is they become very impulsive. They make risky decisions they gamble a lot they're they're real Because a lot of these people are also very headstrong, you know, strong egos. champion in his 40s um glover to share a world champion in his 40s. Like most fighters, by the time 40 rolls around, It could be a neck, a back, a hip, a knee, something that fucks with them.

52:13 He looks like a Greek God and then you get down to his lower body. There's almost no muscle tone Has he tried? Shane just went down to Tijuana to the CPI, You can walk. work. left knee and, uh, I got stem cells in it. hurt anymore and then when you're throwing kicks the amount of torque that is on those joints when I think it's probably like some sort of tendonitis in my lower back. And it's from archery. It's from,

56:17 And that was getting overused to the point where I would draw my bow back and I could Okay. Oh, yo, shots with an arrow. I have a range here at the studio that's an indoor range. It's like a real gym gym that you would like pay a membership for. we'll i'll start you off real light i started them out with just body weight exercises like we're I had them doing very light kettlebells you know like 10 kilograms and you're doing swings and you know i'm teaching them

59:23 I mean, it beats your fucking body. You got to think you got a little space in between each spinal column. like windmills you know what a windmill is you clean press with a kettlebell and then you go down at his house yeah so it's all see it it, it's all machines. I mean, And I had to teach the kids certain different kinds of strokes and whatnot. I mean, if you see those guys that are competing in the Mr. Olympia, I can't imagine that there's much that they can do.

1:03:11 yeah the guy is uh a fucking freak show for sure a real freak show yeah and he's like it's his Right. Because it's certainly not for function or comfort or anything. so the chain is wrapped around his right arm, This farmer's carry. Now, look at that. Yeah, I don't know why he's, I think his Instagram's private now, too. I can believe it. oh there we go fucking guy's a house look at the size of that motherfucker i think that's why he

1:06:46 Very strange stuff. Because he's got a website. You go to jailhousestrong.com? It's all his giant back. Yeah, I don't know, man. I go, no. What's he waiting for? He's falling apart. He's waiting to i'm like if you have more energy you'll be able to do more things in your life like forget about staying dialed or mentally I feel great, but I can't tell

1:09:58 like your cheeks get kind of sucked in he's like dude i feel so good i have so much energy and so much mental clarity because i'm went off it on it eat pizza have pasta you know one or two days a week i'll fuck off yeah but i've been really good i'll still do that i'll have like a banana before I work out. But it's not every day. and I was like, anybody want to get a shot?

1:12:44 I really need to go back to that carnivore diet because that's when i felt my best so i go back heightened too? Or is it just a stability of those that don't wildly fluctuate throughout the day and Yeah. But then once you get in there, all that shit's bullshit. You just feel fucking amazing. Like Daniel Cormier came to the club last night and Gordon Ryan and my friend Anthony from the UFC.

1:15:15 the rare day where I didn't work out right after the cold plunge what's like a typical day in the Yeah, usually my first meal is at noon. okay um I I'm doing pretty well with this weight let's ramp this weight up a little bit let's let's them through these routines where they're not like struggling to pick up a fork the next day and it's a resistance-based,

1:17:22 You could put up So there's only so much you can do with the flexibility on that. the sled. Yeah, I might start doing a reverse. It's like reverse treadmill walking. That's my favorite this way and all the way back up and it's made a giant difference in my ability because when i go elk but they feel better which is the most important thing so i've got them feeling better now in

1:20:22 That's when I first started trying. And you can have some avocados. It's, it's crazy. People that have a problem overeating, like I have a problem overeating. You know? I think it's just human. So last time I talked to him, he was mentioning how him and his wife were having an argument about keeping drumsticks in the freezer for their kids. Because when it's there, he just slams three of them and it like pisses him off.

1:22:59 and it's kind of this strange shift where she gets up in the morning fit bit she said i want to get a fit bit and so we got her a fit bit and then she's you know what happened she got a fitbit she said i want to get Well, she does sports. But it's also, it's so weird how your kids will just, like something will snap into them and then they'll be really into this thing.

1:24:54 The not Brian Johnson, liver King, Brian Johnson, the billionaire vegan longevity, dude. You could be point six per year if you were doing everything amazingly potentially. so often, so as much as like the whole like the problem with it obviously is when people start to monetize the Like he's putting out good information, but then via the diet model he's on. So he like, he has all these metrics that he touts as, you know,

1:28:29 the gamification of it Because if he's so meticulous I don't know, dude. Okay. 1 a.m.? What the fuck? So does he get up? 1 a.m.? Which, you know, i wouldn't doubt is legit Like there's stuff you can see in the feedback, which is cool because you wouldn't dig into you're chasing numbers, Yeah. It's just too hard. totally escapes you, Yeah. shit dude yeah i got a video of it i there's puddles of sweat on the ground where it looked

1:33:50 Look at that puddle, boys. So one of the most wild things I've seen seen and maybe this is more common than i know but And I couldn't imagine writing standing. I need, I need no distractions when I'm writing. I need Okay. And the old one still has Instagram on it So that's how this phone is set up. Yeah. Yeah. alex formosi if you guys know him yeah he's a like a business entrepreneur content creator um super

1:37:49 But those other days is just nonsense. How much has he changed since you first met him to now? he's hanging out with he's like a fun guy he's not like people have this idea he's this like Not a flamethrower. You're not you really have zero concerns like you could just be if you're that guy you could just be kind of a silly guy Then we were having a good time, you know?

1:41:07 It's by design. do you understand that these people are distracting? becomes very manufactured. Yeah. Well, I think particularly with this kind of podcast, you have comfortable is to not distract them. So when I do some people's podcasts and they have literally a And one of the things about having a guy like Jamie, it streamlines the process so well.

1:43:11 and we were just talking, just hanging out. This is what he wants to do and I was like really but it was like it seemed to me and I about him he could have been a fucking serial killer But then right away, I was like, yep, I was right. started yeah but uh again not everybody's jamie yeah but jamie is jamie and i are like kind of how'd you do that? They fuck this up.

1:45:36 like how do you find a jamie or something that is like high level positions even for like companies Oh, it feels, yeah, it feels like it's meant to be. materialistic, fame-driven, bizarro world of L.A. I was thinking maybe we'll get a vacation house and we can visit here and go. And then my kids Yeah. which is an outdoor venue. And then we started doing shows indoors.

1:48:40 So I'd be like, come down, do a couple shows. all these people. And I said, hey, I'm going to open up a comedy club, but I want to hire you now. The people had already lived here. And she was really disciplined. And that was our place. We'd go in between shows and after shows. And they were all available because they were unemployed. Hey, leave your whole life and all your friends and come to Texas. Yeah. But it was, it was

1:52:02 So when we started working together, putting together this club, it was pretty easy. They curbed that. They won't hire you. It's like it used to be when Johnny Carson was running The Tonight Show, videos podcasts i mean there's guys like this uh guy i had on the other day, Ralph Barboza. Very talented young like five shows in a row on a What was it called again? Comedy mothership?

1:55:11 Yeah. So, uh, Well, I think what most of these guys are doing is they're filming stuff, So he'll make a lot of videos of just crowd work. the crowd and they fall apart yeah you know that's that's a that's a crutch too that's really good at material and then something happens in the crowd and they fall apart. Yeah. You know, that's a crutch too. Like, what is it?

1:57:30 get some loud person that just needs a lot of attention, they can distract from the show. couple and then he'll start talking to them and joking around he's super friendly and so it feels It's like a good time. minutes and Now guys like Hans Kim and David Lucas and William Montgomery, And you'll see people that don't know how to do that too, which is also awesome about the show

2:00:36 Yeah. good and so the whole show's just and he's been doing the show for 10 years so it's just super loves them you're like holy shit man there's a guy with cerebral palsy that does stand-up through his phone. So he has his phone connected to a speaker, a Bluetooth speaker. That's crazy. America's Got Talent? for the finals I'm sure you can hear the excitement in my voice.

2:03:04 Yeah, what's going on with him? I don't know, man. He looks worse than Aaron. Yeah. botoxed looks like he's got some fillers in his cheeks yeah the thing that's so weird about it's a combination of multiple things. Have you seen his before and after? Aha. Many press sources confused with an electric bike. I don't know how old he is. her face was swollen still, and that it hadn't gone down yet.

2:06:06 during the incident almost died by breaking his jaw and then it was responsible for facial Is it because of the jaw being rewired? Look at that. It's like actual mass accumulated, not just body fat loss, Yeah, like it's... And that seems to me pretty clear there's some sort of fillers or something. mass on your face and then not proportionally on the rest of your body it would make no sense

2:09:16 and uh i saw her like two years later and looked like someone punched her in the face Yes. Could be seen just as fucked up by. Like, so men can take steroids and they can get jacked. don't have that. They just have appearance shit. jackedness. I like the way he lives, but if you could go from that looking like that. I fully support his jackedness. Yeah, but I think it's less well-known and educated about at scale among women,

2:12:15 is better than injecting fake synthetic fucking blubber. How old is she now? I bet her body would look good if she just was this 65-year-old woman who's thin and fit. It's not possible. she moves around like someone with arthritis. I mean, you've got to imagine what it's like. I mean, when you see her in the Grammys, Oh, my God. I mean, your head is not supposed to be that big.

2:15:10 And what is that? percent because then it becomes a subject of attention. Yeah, like Michael Jackson. Exactly. I mean, his nose caved in, and there's pictures of him with, like, it looks like some skin The doctor that was convicted of giving him, what was it, So, like they I your emotional age is often wrapped up in the age that you became famous so if you're a child star

2:17:53 are like that, that make it through fame and they're still cool. They're fun to be around. doesn't have structure to it they didn't go through the water in. Right, right. And so the concrete is just brittle. It doesn't have structure to it. You're fucked. Yes. Right. I'll try, you know what I mean? when they do the podcast that they've been invited on that it seems worthwhile to do once in a while because it's like certain guys

2:21:14 and that antidepressants are terrible for you. I don't even know what it goes into that Holy shit. You never know. Have you seen that? See if you can find that video because it's so bonkers. This was like the real live stream. Or is he alive? Yes, he's dead. Not only They got It might be like North Korea where you have to cheer or they kill you. what's that mean?

2:25:13 Watch this. ever read like some person with a mental illness is just rambling and writing all this stuff down and you know you're a container for this like but you only get access to this literature if you're Stick to your true adventures or if you wish as you will tell adventures which happened to others people accept them better And Dianetics was a book that they would sell late night TV.

2:28:38 I was like, Dianetics, this book will unlock all the power of your mind. It was like the commercial had like a volcano and all this different shit. that ordered Dianetics, and famously Chef from steroid use celebrity thing you have to be vetted as a person who's not going to push him. That's crazy. It just seems so fucking kooky. closet thing R Kelly oh yeah this is the trapped in the closet episode of South

2:31:56 Back then there was a galactic federation of planets, which was ruled over by the evil Lord Xenu. The cruisers then took the frozen alien bodies to our planet, Earth, and dumped them into the which they could grab onto. He said he just closed his eyes and wrote down whatever came to mind. fucking wreck you well they're the only show that comedy central leaves alone too oh really there's

2:34:47 Yeah. That's crazy. he stuffed her up Yeah. You're never going to see a Tropic Thunder today. like that anymore. Have you seen the Enhanced games? And, you know, it's still highly sought after to compete in it. how risky they want to be or how uh you know, in-depth they want to get with their, you know, doping regimens, essentially get around the system and there's protections in place depending on which country they're in and ways they basically finagled where the Olympics are seen as a corrupt organization to many people.

2:39:12 which is fucking crazy when it's like essentially bioidentical. when whenever we talk about oh this guy popped for whatever and then you know a lot of us will say i to the limit essentially so it's basically like the anti-olympics olympics and they're gonna hold He's the fastest man in the world. That's crazy. When did he buy it? but oversight from

2:42:10 vector. Whereas here you could use actual, you know, testosterone, however much you need or want, Well, if I was ESPN, I'd jump right on board. Yeah. Right. for example, when I first started taking gear, when I was, you know, like, I don't know, over 10 years ago, at this point, no one was talking about how you could take HCG concurrently with don't think would ever be a proponent of it being safe like i wouldn't say it is at all like obviously you're still putting your

2:45:10 It might be worth connecting with him. i've heard a lot of people that just want to compete and He's had everything rescinded. if you could just let that guy with superior genetics just go ham yeah i think they need to So it's certainly possible that they still fall short of world records, even with the talent that's using fucking everything. to be on testosterone use therapy, but you would allow fighters to be on testosterone use therapy,

2:48:30 And then on top of that, this intense confidence because he was basically not a human. the next training session. There's a balance that has to be achieved. And when you start adding like But it could be, you know, like, a little wink, a little nod. Yeah. middle of the fucking night when they're trying to sleep yeah and it's uh a very as far as the

2:51:33 however many times a year like some people are tested like i don't know i forgot what Yeah, but then it's like, why isn't guys like, you know, Connor getting tested LDS? he's had multiple surgeries like Dan Hooker had rods put in it. It's really weird how they justify certain compounds world There's real issues with overuse, like overdosing. Right.

2:54:10 Alex Rodriguez. percent of subjects and studies getting around tests trying to find if they're doping like which are traditionally seen as pretty lax in contrast. That's the only way. Yeah, yeah. still trying to go like balls deep and pick the hardest dudes well that's him that's why he's a My timing wasn't as good. You know, you need to be active to be at the highest levels of world-class mixed martial arts competition.

2:57:30 Do you know when UFC 300 would be? So here we are in November. Yeah. their shin break. because a lot of people overlook to do more things and have more bandwidth allocated to your skill, I don't know, sustaining Like the guy was essentially unrecognizable compared to traditional, you know, Connor. No. a half times what a traditional trt dose would be, that would gain you, you know, a significant amount of lean

3:01:21 bottom left yeah with his arm around the dude he looked looked, oh, they cut off his quads, He was starving himself. fast the compound would You're going to lose a lot of the temporary weight fairly rapidly though. sosa they're cheaters these guys are cheating do you think that the perception will change pros and cons, I think are becoming more widespread and viewed. And the exposure is getting out there

3:04:21 pharma sketch drug. Like where are you going to hear about that shit at scale other than a platform like this? I think about your show behind all these things are. So it gives people, I think right now we have a much more Yeah, for sure. And it's super successful.