Joe Rogan Experience #2079 — Brigham Buhler Transcript
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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience There's no public health concern. And, uh, it's a pretty insidious disease and it's spread throughout all of the government. And that disease is private they're going to come to the conclusions back to the Third Reich from this pharmaceutical company saying, thank you so much for your medical industrial complex he warned that if we allow private industry to control monopolize and
4:38 They inadvertently contaminate thousands of specimens with HIV. Look at this from this article. Anything that I reference will be on there as well. But so jump forward, they infect all these people with HIV. They then lobby with the U.S. government, file and sue the shit out of all of these companies And so time and time again. And so how does the FDA come to these conclusions? It's because a
7:50 These are short chain amino acids found naturally in nature. former Department of Justice prosecutor to come in and help me build out my compliance program. go pound sand. We're not taking any more in-network contracts. So my options at that point are to lay nine years ago. That was one of the tests we offered was this gene carrier test to identify
11:11 have been three hundred and fifty dollars. Right. And I'm not blaming the Department of Justice. this is what I explained again on RFK was but but if you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. cutting their reimbursements or not allowing them to participate in their plans. They're scared for of the insurance companies. case. So to get an indictment, all it takes is a prosecutor presenting to a jury of your peers,
14:45 are cleared. They can seize your cars. They can take your assets. And it's terrifying. And I'm And what does it do? to play devil's advocate, you know, it's one of two things. Do you think the peptides dangerous? no evidence. There's literally, and even if you look at adverse events that have been reported across the United States, He literally worked for Abbott Laboratories for 15 years, working hand in hand with the FDA to make sure they follow all of their protocols and procedures.
18:35 and use an ISO 5 sterile facility. Every aspect from the chain of custody of the ingredient to the chain of custody of the drug to the delivery to the patient. aren't gonna compound them The sterility is there. trials. We're going to do it the right way, you know, and we're going to do all these checks and to shut down the compounding pharmacies that do things right. And here's an example, like,
22:04 this product to meet the demand of the you don't know what you're doing. Like these compounding pharmacies are dangerous. They're And those products, when they come into the United States, Because Eli Lilly specifically, with its product, got one of their facilities shut down because they failed FDA inspection with egregious actions. I can't Google search engine optimize. I can't get these messages out.
25:10 But what's fascinating is it's had a terrible effect Yep. And then the other article was that two of the heads of the FDA that approved the vaccines now went to go work for done i'm not doing that test i'm not doing a genetic test like no way and and now insurance I don't think the average clinician in America even understands. When you have an insurance
28:19 when they're given bad information, just like AI, information in, information out. Okay. If you go to, if you have a clinician, like somebody from the mothership, they couldn't get, That's a kickback. justified. No arguments there. But oftentimes, the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. And oftentimes, the insurance companies are able to skew facts in a way that put innocent people in bad positions. And that's all I'm trying to say. it it it's so deep and go run so deep it take us seven podcasts to cover all this stuff but
31:47 And I attached some links on the WasteWell website about BPC and studies done with healing spine injuries, with healing joint injuries. It works, man. Go wild. It is killing young Americans left and right. It's that we go through at our pharmacy. Like all of the safety nets go through all the protocols and procedures that we go through going earlier is they've outsourced 30% of their manufacturing to outside of the United States,
35:39 done is incorrect. That's the level of scrutiny we face. The level of scrutiny Big Pharma faces on the dangerous list, things like BBC 157, is the idea that they're going to come up with their have filled prescriptions. We're nationwide. We're working with some of the biggest telemedicine becomes deficient in as you age, right? Our body becomes less and less efficient. And so these
38:45 Does that mean we're not allowed to make it? I mean, it just, it just seems like clear cut corruption. our last podcast too, but over 90% of the products that are in the operating room never went through human safety studies. lot of different stuff coming at them. And so they created a loophole. And the premise was less than That's the difference. the tissue that you wanted to extrapolate. As the technology changed and the shaver handpieces
42:22 in that. And so when you take this product from one surgery Like these are some of the most resilient life forms in the history of existence. even with the stem cells or biologics products, None of that exists in big medical, none of it. I was a device rep with shavers, that product's going into surgery. And so I'll give you another crazy and I'm saying all this
45:18 in that tiger surgery what same serial number at the time what was happening is if a loaner went out it would go It's like, this is nature and the rules and the regs and the restrictions and the safety nets and going to be as good that's the protocol because we're going to go above and beyond and follow the It's just risk reward. the more it's so confusing because it doesn't seem like there's a way out. Well, and you asked me last time,
48:06 It killed my brother. Solution, When a lot of times when people say, hey, you know, if it worked, everyone would use and see that it wasn't increasing prostate cancer in his patient population. if testosterone was increasing prostate cancer, we would have seen a huge spike in prostate cancer. Right. castrated. He had a testosterone level of 50 nanograms per deciliter, which is considered
51:56 right? Once that plant has water, it's not going to absorb any more water. The prostate can only, companies and pharmacy benefit managers, every drug on the market that is covered by insurance did a study on insulin where they found and the insurance companies through rebates. What you have is managed care plan. business. The pharmacies were saying we're getting paid less and less,
54:58 and what they found was $240 million companies can move dollars to maximize profits. Jesus Christ. Does that make sense at all? this. You come in. Let's say I come in and I'm going to give you a perfect example. I'm a mom. The difference is if somebody were to come in the door of Ways to Well or any of these of getting kicked off the insurance. We would run an EEG to assess,
58:17 $200 test. Okay. Then you go to what Gary brought up. You can do a methylfolate detoxification test, do you have a food allergy? Is your gut biome in good working order? them. And they don't have the time and they're stressed and they're overworked and they're tired and And so those were pathways to be able to educate a It is viewed by a lot of the doctors in this health care system and i say
1:02:11 And so infrared has done that eyes have a limited amount of ATP, but they require a massive amount of energy. And so as we age and our ATP declines, that are not being utilized Where's the negative side effects? that costs $14,000 a month from the insurance companies and wasn't getting good results. to be able to use these treatment modalities, to everybody? And that's where I think large language models are going to change the game.
1:04:52 Part of being personalized goes above and beyond personalizing treatments with peptides He'll be able to read your DEXA. on all of your biomarkers. Or if we don't see improvement, we're going to know in advance in the newest models? Yeah. That was the same thing I heard. own that wouldn't be like a programmed behavior so I mean the future is is scary and exciting
1:08:02 But what I see is, like everything, In my model, a clinician spends 45 minutes with you they're used to a system where they go in, they're given a drug and they're pushed out and they leave prescription shipped. And the only reason I'll be able to do that, and when we go back to data in, scale. They hire a doctor by the hour. with a disease state and a skill set and a knowledge base that she or he doesn't have the
1:11:57 per day per clinician in my model because i'm trying to provide them with great care i'm trying of avatars in the marketplace model you have because it's only going to act in accordance with the data. And if every large bench, right? And I'm reaching out to thought leaders in their field and in academia throughout the country and saying, hey, do you want to help me do something cool? Do you want to come change
1:15:55 And the more data we can give the large language model, the better decisions it can make. Yeah, no, I am. I built this company. doing this again. I can't put, I can't build a model that is in an ecosystem that is controlled with me. That doesn't exist. I just did rounds on the back, dude. Yeah. It doesn't affect me at all But if you start talking about driving longevity and driving human lifespan,
1:19:18 Think of it like car insurance. like the red light bed what it's done to his face it's crazy like his face. It's crazy. Like his face looks 10 years younger. It's nuts. Well, that they're using in the marketplace and orthopedics today. It reduces inflammation. This hasn't been something on a large scale that human beings have participated in testosterone levels.
1:22:54 Are you lifting weights? and I'm like, well, of course, because what happens is if you don't get sunlight, your body upregulates upregulates melatonin and melatonin reduces testicular function and drives down testosterone. So if they're not getting enough sunlight, it can kill their sex drive. Yeah, it's nuts. insurance company. Right. And so if you if let's just say in a in a miracle world, all of a sudden,
1:26:15 Jesus. are going to ensure that you stay on these treatments because that's where they're profitable. What should we cover? it, the more profits they can make. They have only a handful of levers they can pull to make money. if it's Sanofi, I think was there, uh, was their price out of that the pharmaceutical company got But then they go to the patient and they say, hey, this is a tier four drug. You have a 50%
1:30:24 A drug entered the market. already shipped all the drugs to their patient i'd already done everything they come in and say Hey, man, heard it's tough out there for these small pharmacies. pharmacy, your mail order pharmacy making? Lever after lever after lever. Then the last part of it It is a profit driven system, not a patient outcome driven system.
1:33:33 Okay, now I get it. and by the time that diabetes leads to metabolic disease that they have and it's more expensive, but the efficacy data of the long-term benefits He said he looked me in the eye, Brigham, and he said, Major conglomerates have gone out and bought up about eating right, and you push me towards chronic disease If we make things about profits and quarterly earnings and big business and not patient outcomes,
1:37:45 in this instance, because this is one of those issues where there's no rebate and no way for Why would I go to Ways to Well? Why would I go to Gary Brekka? Why would I go to Ways to Well? is a lot of the care will I know your bone mineral density. Then we add in a VO2 and making it to be a centenarian, don't know how far in we are um we're good okay because when ian breaks down when you start talking this isn't me talking like i'm i'm
1:41:18 We have salamanders that can regenerate limbs. optimists are usually successful, pessimists are usually right. Like I'm optimistic. The future's So they scanned my brain. that may have anxiety or depression, that's another tool to assess that. We know that it has an 80, and that's how fast you can analyze data and so if there was a red dot and i flashed it up on a
1:44:38 these athletes with concussions. Yeah. I would imagine it would be good for comedy. Ooh, I want to do it. When we begin to use these tools and allow AI to get ahead and get proactive instead of reactive, then we can start to assess your baseline. And now we've monitored not just your biomarkers, not just your gut health, not just your genetics and your neuro wave health. And we can refine that with a precision approach. And the traditional model uses a magnet as well, but it's only indicated if you, let's go back to the
1:48:13 the mushroom nootropics. But the direction we're headed with this, this is another thing I wanted Dr. Bruce Dahmer. Yeah, a long time ago. So I didn't know if that would refresh your memory on who he was. there's like a bunch of mixed reviews on if this is true or not so i don't want to like frick using if it has an impact on whether or not it's But what he found is when you put them in the human body, they actually do not differentiate.
1:52:12 so they're, they're saying, okay, if it doesn't differentiate, then it doesn't do anything. on all of this. This isn't me talking. He released a study where he talked about this is occurring in a woman when she's pregnant with a child, and we can see it. How do we see it? The glow that the you're pulling it from like you, of 30. You may be getting 10,000 HSCs, but only one of them is a viable HSC that'll actually do
1:54:41 And my answer was the optimal dosage is the minimal dosage required to elicit the desired where i'm going with that is that it yeah and so and you're also you're also historically like when because it's not going to become a tendon and or a tendon cell and heal that tendon. From that point forward, the magic happens with all the other goodies that are included
1:57:53 And all the extracellular vesicles and all these other items are the goodies and the materials of But we've worked with dozens of NFL athletes. bubble the team doctor's interviewing for his job all the time too right so if you're the team doctor about Aaron Aaron Rogers um I met Aaron prior to his injury via his bodywork guy, Aaron Alexander, who I think you've
2:00:24 Those cellular treatments are, for all the reasons I discussed earlier, creating the I had one guy who was told he was going to be out for eight weeks. valuable to these organizations they're not going to just risk it on some fucking witch doctor vibrant signaling cells. Now, do they differentiate? No, they don't. Now, the reason you would want to do that is down the road to be able to rebuild cartilage or, you know, the critiques that guys have.
2:03:46 Yeah, not that I know of. When you were talking about this joint that is far more durable, what kind of joint were you talking about? No, no, no, no. You know, which is really kind of, it's a weird thing where you say, put something in my body that's permanent, but not really. as we get the weight off these people, right? It is literally ultrasound guided.
2:06:05 ultrasound ultrasound guided inter-articular injection of expanded umbilical cord mesenchymal How do you say that? I keep going back to the heterochronic parabiosis, right? It's providing the building blocks. cells and telling your cells to act young again, essentially. And it's causing, I don't want to It's really interesting, the resistance to it.
2:09:02 now questioning things instead of just basically like a few years ago, they weren't. They did use an Arthrex technique. And Aaron was open-minded enough to do that. and his dedication that he put into that. was telling me that the clinical team was looking at his Achilles hard he worked to get back for that team. Why would you not want to optimize that?
2:12:40 red light therapy, hyperbaric, all of those things are going to contribute to the healing process convoluted system that is compromised by money. Yep. It is. But the message too is I've been bugging Lex to try and hook me up with some of his contacts, but it hasn't manifested yet.